Re: Stus-List Update on jammed transmission lever
I had to pull them out the bottom. I could just reach the clip to remove the retaining pin. Putting the new ones back in was another story. I had to place them so that one was horizontal and the other through long bends lined up with it. This was the only way I could reach to replace the pin. I then dropped two lines from the top and attached one to each so that I could pull the cables to the proper side. I then gently worked the ends back into the base so I could pull them up with the lines. Make sure that the pull lines are routed aft and clear of the steering cables. I didn't loosen the steering cables at all because I wanted to make sure they remained clear of the control cables. I don't know how much clearance you have below the pedestal but I had very little due to the solid base where the steering cables pulleys are mounted. Good luck this job pushed my patience limit. Don Newman C&C 44 > On May 3, 2014, at 22:21, Eric Frank via CnC-List > wrote: > > Your collective advice was to replace the shift cable (and throttle cable > as well) so I have proceeded to try to do that but have run into another > problem. Following the directions on the Edson website, I delved into the > pedestal, moved the throttle cable to the port side, unscrewed the cable > clamp from the pedestal housing and then tried to pull the cables up to gain > access to the clamp. As the directions suggested, this was difficult to do, > as the clamp gets jammed against the steering chain. Cranking the wheel from > port to starboard helped, as they suggested, but not enough. So the next > advice was to loosen the steering cable (what a PITA!) so I could lift the > chain over the sprocket teeth and forward up to the wheel brake. That helped > also, but still not enough. I think the trouble is that the cable clamp is > made for 3 cables, not two, so the part without a cable in it still gets > jammed under part of the pedestal casting, and I cannot get it out. > How to proceed? Advice needed! One thought is to unbolt the pedestal from > the cockpit floor and tip it over so I can pull the cables with the clamp out > the bottom of the pedestal. Of course the chain/cables will need to be a lot > looser than they are now, and I hesitate to disconnect the cables from the > quadrant completely. Maybe as they are already loose (from loosening the > nuts on the eyebolt), I could pop the cable off one of the sheaves that the > cable runs over, and perhaps that would loosen the cable sufficiently that I > could tip the pedestal over. But before I try something like that, it would > be great if I could get some further input from the list. Would hate to do > something that made a big repair necessary. > > Thanks! > > Eric > C&C 35 MkII > Mattapoisett, MA > >> Did that - clear result. The lever at the pedestal is still jammed - cable >> won't move. But the transmission is easy to shift even by hand, so it's >> fine. That seems a good (i.e. easier and cheaper-to-fix) result. Opened >> the pedestal, removed the compass, and the shifting mechanism looks fine >> from the top view. So seems likely that the cable is rusted, perhaps right >> down near where it exits the sheathing and connects to the tranny lever. >> Would moving the cable around with pliers right where it exits the sheath, >> perhaps squirting with penetrating oil help? Other suggestions? >> >> Eric >> >>> You have the first step: disconnect the cable at the lever and see if the >>> tx lever moves. >>> >>> Rich >>> On Apr 27, 2014, at 7:36, Eric Frank wrote: Just replaced the PYI dripless "stuffing box" on Cat's Paw, a 35 C&C Mk II. With lots of help from the list last fall, got the old one out and just replaced it with a new one last weekend. The re-installation went very smoothly and I thought all was well. But when I fired up the Perkins diesel yesterday (still on the hard), the shift lever is stuck in neutral. I noticed that was true last weekend just after the install, but figured the engine needed to be running to get it in gear. No banging needed on the prop shaft to drive the shaft back into the coupling, so I don't think there was any strain on the transmission. Would like advice about where to look for the jam. In the shift lever from the pedestal? In the transmission itself? Maybe disconnect the shift cable from the transmission and see if I can then move the shift lever? Advice from the list soon would be greatly appreciated. Launch date is slated for this week, but if the prop shaft has to be disconnected from the tranny to fix things, launch needs to be delayed. Thanks for advice! Don't know what to try. Eric > > ___ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com > CnC-List@cnc-list.com __
Stus-List Furler Choice
With much talk recently of the merits of a furling headsail, I have decided to bite the bullet, install a new furler and have a new sail made for my 26. Someone mentioned that they were quite pleased with their Superfurl. I seem to get a different answer from each person I ask this question: What is the best choice for a furler on a small boat? Allen Allen White 1977 C & C 26 ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Furler Choice
Allen: As you note, there are many different systems out there. My guidelines for buying this type of item are: 1. Buy the best I can afford as it will likely provide the best service. 2. Buy a well known brand as that generally means it works well, is well supported, and will add to the perceived value of the boat for a future purchaser. 3. Buy the size recommended by the manufacturer for the boat. 4. Replace any dubious hardware on the boat that will be associated with the new purchase. For a furler, replace the headstay and fittings if at all questionable. Given the above, I’d buy a Harken. I have installed several on your size boat and have had no complaints. Rich Knowles INDIGO LF38 Halifax, NS. On May 4, 2014, at 11:17, Allen White via CnC-List wrote: With much talk recently of the merits of a furling headsail, I have decided to bite the bullet, install a new furler and have a new sail made for my 26. Someone mentioned that they were quite pleased with their Superfurl. I seem to get a different answer from each person I ask this question: What is the best choice for a furler on a small boat? Allen Allen White 1977 C & C 26 ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Furler Choice
I think that two options come to mind: Furlex and Harken. Of the two, i would buy the one that i could get at a better price. No question, follow manufacturer's recommendations regarding the model (size). Unless you have a fairly new stay, i would replace it, as you don't want to do it once the furler is installed. Marek (in Ottawa) -Original Message- From: Allen White via CnC-List Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2014 10:17 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List Furler Choice With much talk recently of the merits of a furling headsail, I have decided to bite the bullet, install a new furler and have a new sail made for my 26. Someone mentioned that they were quite pleased with their Superfurl. I seem to get a different answer from each person I ask this question: What is the best choice for a furler on a small boat? Allen Allen White 1977 C & C 26 ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Furler Choice
Allen, I have a C&C 26. I’ve had the boat about 12 years and it came with a Profurl furler. I don’t know how old the furler was when I bought the boat but it’s still going strong. A couple of seasons ago I replaced all the standing rigging including the forestay. Because that meant I would have to disassemble the furler, I replaced all the plastic bearings inside the foil. The furler came apart easily and went together fine too. All I needed were a bunch of plastic bearings. (And I don’t think it was really necessary to replace them - but I had it apart…) Having said that, Rich gives good advice about Harken. They make good kit and you can’t really go wrong with their equipment. sam :-) C&C 26 Liquorice Ghost Lake Alberta From: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2014 8:17 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com With much talk recently of the merits of a furling headsail, I have decided to bite the bullet, install a new furler and have a new sail made for my 26. Someone mentioned that they were quite pleased with their Superfurl. I seem to get a different answer from each person I ask this question: What is the best choice for a furler on a small boat? Allen Allen White 1977 C & C 26 ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Furler Choice
Harken. Dennis C. On Sun, May 4, 2014 at 9:17 AM, Allen White via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > With much talk recently of the merits of a furling headsail, I have decided > to bite the bullet, install a new furler and have a new sail made for my > 26. > Someone mentioned that they were quite pleased with their Superfurl. I seem > to get a different answer from each person I ask this question: > What is the best choice for a furler on a small boat? > > Allen > > Allen White > 1977 C & C 26 > > > > ___ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Furler Choice
Allen, I see you’re thinking of a new sail too. If your old, hank on sail is in good condition you might want to consider having a luff tape installed on that. But, if you’ve got the money, the best investment (by far) for your sailboat is new sails. I bought a new set of sails a few years after I bought the 26. I didn’t think the old sails were that bad, but I was wrong. With new sails it was a different boat. The 26 is a bit tender anyway, but with new sails she stood right up; pointed better; went faster! I’ve since bought a laminate 135% and that is even better. (off topic - the next best investment is self tailers) sam :-) C&C 26 Liquorice Ghost Lake Alberta From: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2014 8:17 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com With much talk recently of the merits of a furling headsail, I have decided to bite the bullet, install a new furler and have a new sail made for my 26. Someone mentioned that they were quite pleased with their Superfurl. I seem to get a different answer from each person I ask this question: What is the best choice for a furler on a small boat? Allen Allen White 1977 C & C 26 ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Furler Choice
I see Harken has a style of furler developed to be affordable for coastal cruising called the ESP. http://www.westmarine.com/big-boat-furlers/harken--esp-jib-furling-and-reefing-boat-length-20-to-28--14136303 At about 1K, it's way more affordable than the more sophisticated Harken units and comparable in price to the cheaper furlers on the market. I would think buying the Harken Unit 0 or 1 would be an issue for a 26 because, by the time you finished the project with rigging, sails, etc., you will have spent big , possibly approaching the value of the boat itself. Jack Brennan Former C&C 25 Shanachie, 1974 Bristol 30 Tierra Verde, Fl. -Original Message- From: Allen White via CnC-List Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2014 10:17 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List Furler Choice With much talk recently of the merits of a furling headsail, I have decided to bite the bullet, install a new furler and have a new sail made for my 26. Someone mentioned that they were quite pleased with their Superfurl. I seem to get a different answer from each person I ask this question: What is the best choice for a furler on a small boat? Allen Allen White 1977 C & C 26 ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Furler Choice
I got my Harken Mark IV Unit 0 on sale at Binnacle.ca for under $1200 and free shipping. Local quotes were up in the range of $1600. Toggle was on sale at Binnacle too. They don't have a sale on right now and of course it doesn't work if you are not in Canada but these units do go on sale fairly often. I think with a C&C 26 a Unit 00 would work as well but that's at the upper range for this unit. The Mark IV's have independent top and bottom swivels so that the sail starts furling more evenly over the length of the foil, resulting in better sail shape (or so I am told). The ESP units have a fixed lower swivel. The basket and drum of the Mark IV remove as well for racing. Taking down the old furler, assembling the new one and installing it with a new forestay was probably in the range of another $1,000 from the rigger (I had some other work done too). As far as sails go I ordered a new genoa in January. I looked at North, UK, Doyle, a local loft (Leitch & McBride) and a number of the online suppliers. North had boat show pricing but the local loft matched that price and provided a sail made locally. Interesting that the fall-season North Sails 'trade-in' program pricing was substantially less than the mid-winter boat show pricing even though both were identified as '20% off' (leading me to believe that the regional North loft gets a lot better 'factory-supported' pricing for the trade-in program than they can supply for boat show season). I also noted that some of the online sail companies give discounts for multiple sails too. I'm not sure what other sales are available throughout the year, but it might just be worth it to wait and buy your components as you can get the best deals. Peter Fell Sidney, BC C&C 27 MkIII -Original Message- From: Allen White via CnC-List Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2014 7:17 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List Furler Choice With much talk recently of the merits of a furling headsail, I have decided to bite the bullet, install a new furler and have a new sail made for my 26. Someone mentioned that they were quite pleased with their Superfurl. I seem to get a different answer from each person I ask this question: What is the best choice for a furler on a small boat? Allen Allen White 1977 C & C 26 ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Stus-List furlers for head sails...
you tend to get what you pay for.for durability & resale value plus after sales service two brand s stand out over time...furlex from sweden..and harken from usa.harken after service is A oneresale as addition to boat ads value...i would go harken with a reputable sailmakers sail... depending on your local...UK., maybe North, could cost a little more but with sun strip..foam luff furling,..and sailmaker coming to boat to measure ...all possible errors sailmakers problem...then fitting new sail..you will get the best...if sailmaker will not come to boat then for sure don,t use.lets out most far east lofts where have seen some really horrible work which owners were stuck with...and in many cases other local sail lofts refused to work on modification & repair...as stated at beginning ..you tend to get what you pay for...good sailing ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Furler Choice
That was me that talked about the super furl. The beauty of the superfurl was the quality for the price and not needing a new sail. I installed the furler and new slugs on the sail myself myself. I wouldn't hesitate to use another one on my boat. I would have to look but, I think I paid about $800 for the one on my 22' o'day and installation was free. Danny From my Android phone Original message From: Allen White via CnC-List Date: 05/04/2014 10:17 AM (GMT-05:00) To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List Furler Choice With much talk recently of the merits of a furling headsail, I have decided to bite the bullet, install a new furler and have a new sail made for my 26. Someone mentioned that they were quite pleased with their Superfurl. I seem to get a different answer from each person I ask this question: What is the best choice for a furler on a small boat? Allen Allen White 1977 C & C 26 ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Furler Choice
I install and service roller furlers. There are some good ones and there are some that are junk. If I was installing a new furler on Touché, it would be a Harken MKIV. The price differential for the smaller furlers over Harken's cruising furlers isn't that great. The MKIV 's are bombproof. I've had a Harken Unit 1 MKIII on Touché for 15 years and it has performed flawlessly in all conditions. I just furled it in the last hour. Furled easily. Dennis C. Touché 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA Sent from my iPhone > On May 4, 2014, at 12:01 PM, Peter Fell via CnC-List > wrote: > > I got my Harken Mark IV Unit 0 on sale at Binnacle.ca for under $1200 and > free shipping. Local quotes were up in the range of $1600. Toggle was on > sale at Binnacle too. They don't have a sale on right now and of course it > doesn't work if you are not in Canada but these units do go on sale fairly > often. > > I think with a C&C 26 a Unit 00 would work as well but that's at the upper > range for this unit. > > The Mark IV's have independent top and bottom swivels so that the sail starts > furling more evenly over the length of the foil, resulting in better sail > shape (or so I am told). The ESP units have a fixed lower swivel. The basket > and drum of the Mark IV remove as well for racing. > > Taking down the old furler, assembling the new one and installing it with a > new forestay was probably in the range of another $1,000 from the rigger (I > had some other work done too). > > As far as sails go I ordered a new genoa in January. I looked at North, UK, > Doyle, a local loft (Leitch & McBride) and a number of the online suppliers. > North had boat show pricing but the local loft matched that price and > provided a sail made locally. > > Interesting that the fall-season North Sails 'trade-in' program pricing was > substantially less than the mid-winter boat show pricing even though both > were identified as '20% off' (leading me to believe that the regional North > loft gets a lot better 'factory-supported' pricing for the trade-in program > than they can supply for boat show season). > > I also noted that some of the online sail companies give discounts for > multiple sails too. > > I'm not sure what other sales are available throughout the year, but it might > just be worth it to wait and buy your components as you can get the best > deals. > > Peter Fell > Sidney, BC > C&C 27 MkIII > > > -Original Message- From: Allen White via CnC-List > Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2014 7:17 AM > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Subject: Stus-List Furler Choice > > With much talk recently of the merits of a furling headsail, I have decided > to bite the bullet, install a new furler and have a new sail made for my 26. > Someone mentioned that they were quite pleased with their Superfurl. I seem > to get a different answer from each person I ask this question: > What is the best choice for a furler on a small boat? > > Allen > > Allen White > 1977 C & C 26 > > > > ___ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > > ___ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com > CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Keel Fairing
I used to have a small crack ( about 4 inches ) along the aft part of the hull-keel joint . Every spring I grinded it a little, filled with epoxy/silica . Every layup the crack showed up again. 2 years ago I replaced the standard West System epoxy with their g/Flex product, mixed with silica . No more cracks. This epoxy is flexible ( you can glue poly kayaks, even wet material with it ). I prefer to use that instead of 5200 because it is still "compatible" with gelcoat/epoxy in case I need to redo it again. Sylvain C&C27 MkIII From: Tortuga via CnC-List To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Friday, May 2, 2014 2:22 PM Subject: Re: Stus-List Keel Fairing "For minor fairing you can use AwlFair or 3M Premium Filler. For deeper spots start with 3M High Strength Filler then smooth with the lighter fillers." I also have some cracking on the trailing edges near the keel/hull joint. I'm thinking I should dig it out and re-fair it. I was reading a blog in which the author recommended using 3M 5200 for its flexibility. Below is a quote from the blog. I'm soliciting opinions here. Thanks Dennis and Wally Derek Tortuga, 30/1 Ballantyne's Cove, NS "The first thing to do if you're going to fix this clean up both the joint and the surrounding area, about an inch to each side of the joint. Clean it down to the fiberglass or gelcoat. Make sure it's all dry and clean. Next, run a piece of blue painter's masking tape about 1/2" to 1" parallel to and on either side of the joint. Get a pack of inexpensive sqeegees. Evercoat makes a three pack. They're flexible and cheap. Good thing, because they're one use. Finally, with a caulking tube of 3M 5200 or 4200 in the color of your choice (I use black), put a bead all along one side of the joint in the keel. Don't be afraid to use more than you need. With the squeegee spread the 5200 evenly and smoothly from front to back. The bead should be spread evenly between the tape filling to the thickness of the tape." ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Stus-List Ice box paint?
Listers, There are some deep stains and some discoloration in the Enterprise's ice box. What kind of paint could I use to give it a fresh look? All the best, Edd --- Edd M. Schillay Starship Enterprise NCC-1701-B C&C 37+ | City Island, NY www.StarshipSailing.com --- 914.332.4400 | Office 914.332.1671 | Fax 914.774.9767 | Mobile --- Sent via iPhone 5___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Ice box paint?
I would think it would be better to use a gel coat stain remover first and see if that works. One of the products that commonly gets used along the water line like Davis FSR (Fiberglass Stain Remover): http://www.davisnet.com/marine/products/list_marine.asp?grp=m17-2 or something comparable. Or did you try that already? Ken H. On 4 May 2014 19:15, Edd Schillay via CnC-List wrote: > Listers, > > There are some deep stains and some discoloration in the Enterprise's ice > box. > > What kind of paint could I use to give it a fresh look? > > > All the best, > > Edd > > --- > Edd M. Schillay > Starship Enterprise > NCC-1701-B > C&C 37+ | City Island, NY > www.StarshipSailing.com > --- > 914.332.4400 | Office > 914.332.1671 | Fax > 914.774.9767 | Mobile > --- > Sent via iPhone 5 > > ___ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > > ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Stus-List Furler
came with a Profurl furler. I don?t know how old the furler was when I bought the boat but it?s still going strong. A couple of seasons ago I replaced all the standing rigging including the forestay. Because that meant I would have to disassemble the furler, I replaced all the plastic bearings inside the foil. The furler came apart easily and went together fine too. All I needed were a bunch of plastic bearings. (And I don?t think it was really necessary to replace them - but I had it apart?) Having said that, Rich gives good advice about Harken. They make good kit and you can?t really go wrong with their equipment. sam :-) C&C 26 Liquorice Ghost Lake Alberta From: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: ?Sunday?, ?May? ?04?, ?2014 ?8?:?17? ?AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com With much talk recently of the merits of a furling headsail, I have decided to bite the bullet, install a new furler and have a new sail made for my 26. Someone mentioned that they were quite pleased with their Superfurl. I seem to get a different answer from each person I ask this question: What is the best choice for a furler on a small boat? Allen Allen White 1977 C & C 26 ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ------ next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20140504/81 c40a8b/attachment-0001.html> -- Message: 5 Date: Sun, 4 May 2014 10:36:49 -0500 From: "Dennis C. via CnC-List" To: Allen White , CnClist Subject: Re: Stus-List Furler Choice Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Harken. Dennis C. On Sun, May 4, 2014 at 9:17 AM, Allen White via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > With much talk recently of the merits of a furling headsail, I have decided > to bite the bullet, install a new furler and have a new sail made for my > 26. > Someone mentioned that they were quite pleased with their Superfurl. I seem > to get a different answer from each person I ask this question: > What is the best choice for a furler on a small boat? > > Allen > > Allen White > 1977 C & C 26 > > > > ___ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20140504/39 83817c/attachment-0001.html> -- Message: 6 Date: Sun, 4 May 2014 15:36:11 + From: via CnC-List To: Allen White , "=?utf-8?Q?cnc-list@cnc-list.com?=" Subject: Re: Stus-List Furler Choice Message-ID: <53666108.2577320a.5b74.3...@mx.google.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Allen, I see you?re thinking of a new sail too. If your old, hank on sail is in good condition you might want to consider having a luff tape installed on that. But, if you?ve got the money, the best investment (by far) for your sailboat is new sails. I bought a new set of sails a few years after I bought the 26. I didn?t think the old sails were that bad, but I was wrong. With new sails it was a different boat. The 26 is a bit tender anyway, but with new sails she stood right up; pointed better; went faster! I?ve since bought a laminate 135% and that is even better. (off topic - the next best investment is self tailers) sam :-) C&C 26 Liquorice Ghost Lake Alberta From: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: ?Sunday?, ?May? ?04?, ?2014 ?8?:?17? ?AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com With much talk recently of the merits of a furling headsail, I have decided to bite the bullet, install a new furler and have a new sail made for my 26. Someone mentioned that they were quite pleased with their Superfurl. I seem to get a different answer from each person I ask this question: What is the best choice for a furler on a small boat? Allen Allen White 1977 C & C 26 ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20140504/e3 30f73a/attachment-0001.html> -- Subject: Digest Footer ___ CnC-List mailing list CnC-List@cnc-list.com http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com -- End of CnC-List Digest, Vol 100, Issue 9 ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Ice box paint?
I've used FSR on the water line. Nothing removes the "City Island Stain" better. I'll try it. But really hoping for a fresh like-new look. All the best, Edd --- Edd M. Schillay Starship Enterprise NCC-1701-B C&C 37+ | City Island, NY www.StarshipSailing.com --- 914.332.4400 | Office 914.332.1671 | Fax 914.774.9767 | Mobile --- Sent via iPhone 5 On May 4, 2014, at 6:21 PM, Ken Heaton wrote: I would think it would be better to use a gel coat stain remover first and see if that works. One of the products that commonly gets used along the water line like Davis FSR (Fiberglass Stain Remover): http://www.davisnet.com/marine/products/list_marine.asp?grp=m17-2 or something comparable. Or did you try that already? Ken H. > On 4 May 2014 19:15, Edd Schillay via CnC-List wrote: > Listers, > > There are some deep stains and some discoloration in the Enterprise's ice > box. > > What kind of paint could I use to give it a fresh look? > > > All the best, > > Edd > > --- > Edd M. Schillay > Starship Enterprise > NCC-1701-B > C&C 37+ | City Island, NY > www.StarshipSailing.com > --- > 914.332.4400 | Office > 914.332.1671 | Fax > 914.774.9767 | Mobile > --- > Sent via iPhone 5 > > ___ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com > CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Furler Choice
If you have rod rigging, the Harken is the only one that goes over rod. It makes no sense to buy a cheaper firler and a new headstay IMHO. Joel On Sunday, May 4, 2014, Dennis C. via CnC-List wrote: > I install and service roller furlers. There are some good ones and there > are some that are junk. > > If I was installing a new furler on Touché, it would be a Harken MKIV. > The price differential for the smaller furlers over Harken's cruising > furlers isn't that great. The MKIV 's are bombproof. > > I've had a Harken Unit 1 MKIII on Touché for 15 years and it has performed > flawlessly in all conditions. I just furled it in the last hour. Furled > easily. > > Dennis C. > Touché 35-1 #83 > Mandeville, LA > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On May 4, 2014, at 12:01 PM, Peter Fell via CnC-List < > cnc-list@cnc-list.com > wrote: > > > > I got my Harken Mark IV Unit 0 on sale at Binnacle.ca for under $1200 > and free shipping. Local quotes were up in the range of $1600. Toggle was > on sale at Binnacle too. They don't have a sale on right now and of course > it doesn't work if you are not in Canada but these units do go on sale > fairly often. > > > > I think with a C&C 26 a Unit 00 would work as well but that's at the > upper range for this unit. > > > > The Mark IV's have independent top and bottom swivels so that the sail > starts furling more evenly over the length of the foil, resulting in better > sail shape (or so I am told). The ESP units have a fixed lower swivel. The > basket and drum of the Mark IV remove as well for racing. > > > > Taking down the old furler, assembling the new one and installing it > with a new forestay was probably in the range of another $1,000 from the > rigger (I had some other work done too). > > > > As far as sails go I ordered a new genoa in January. I looked at North, > UK, Doyle, a local loft (Leitch & McBride) and a number of the online > suppliers. North had boat show pricing but the local loft matched that > price and provided a sail made locally. > > > > Interesting that the fall-season North Sails 'trade-in' program pricing > was substantially less than the mid-winter boat show pricing even though > both were identified as '20% off' (leading me to believe that the regional > North loft gets a lot better 'factory-supported' pricing for the trade-in > program than they can supply for boat show season). > > > > I also noted that some of the online sail companies give discounts for > multiple sails too. > > > > I'm not sure what other sales are available throughout the year, but it > might just be worth it to wait and buy your components as you can get the > best deals. > > > > Peter Fell > > Sidney, BC > > C&C 27 MkIII > > > > > > -Original Message- From: Allen White via CnC-List > > Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2014 7:17 AM > > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > > Subject: Stus-List Furler Choice > > > > With much talk recently of the merits of a furling headsail, I have > decided > > to bite the bullet, install a new furler and have a new sail made for my > 26. > > Someone mentioned that they were quite pleased with their Superfurl. I > seem > > to get a different answer from each person I ask this question: > > What is the best choice for a furler on a small boat? > > > > Allen > > > > Allen White > > 1977 C & C 26 > > > > > > > > ___ > > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com > > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > > > > ___ > > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com > > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > > ___ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > -- Joel 301 541 8551 ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
