Stus-List jammed transmission lever

2014-04-27 Thread Eric Frank
Just replaced the PYI dripless "stuffing box" on Cat's Paw, a 35 C&C Mk II.  
With lots of help from the list last fall, got the old one out and just 
replaced it with a new one last weekend. The re-installation went very smoothly 
and I thought all was well.  But when I fired up the Perkins diesel yesterday 
(still on the hard), the shift lever is stuck in neutral.  I noticed that was 
true last weekend just after the install, but figured the engine needed to be 
running to get it in gear. No banging needed on the prop shaft to drive the 
shaft back into the coupling, so I don't think there was any strain on the 
transmission.  Would like advice about where to look for the jam. In the shift 
lever from the pedestal? In the transmission itself? Maybe disconnect the shift 
cable from the transmission and see if I can then move the shift lever?  Advice 
from the list soon would be greatly appreciated.  Launch date is slated for 
this week, but if the prop shaft has to be disconnected from the tran
 ny to fix things, launch needs to be delayed.

Thanks for advice!  Don't know what to try.

Eric
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Re: Stus-List jammed transmission lever

2014-04-27 Thread Rich Knowles
You have the first step:  disconnect the cable at the lever and see if the tx 
lever moves. 

Rich

> On Apr 27, 2014, at 7:36, Eric Frank  wrote:
> 
> Just replaced the PYI dripless "stuffing box" on Cat's Paw, a 35 C&C Mk II.  
> With lots of help from the list last fall, got the old one out and just 
> replaced it with a new one last weekend. The re-installation went very 
> smoothly and I thought all was well.  But when I fired up the Perkins diesel 
> yesterday (still on the hard), the shift lever is stuck in neutral.  I 
> noticed that was true last weekend just after the install, but figured the 
> engine needed to be running to get it in gear. No banging needed on the prop 
> shaft to drive the shaft back into the coupling, so I don't think there was 
> any strain on the transmission.  Would like advice about where to look for 
> the jam. In the shift lever from the pedestal? In the transmission itself? 
> Maybe disconnect the shift cable from the transmission and see if I can then 
> move the shift lever?  Advice from the list soon would be greatly 
> appreciated.  Launch date is slated for this week, but if the prop shaft has 
> to be disconnected from the tr
 anny to fix things, launch needs to be delayed.
> 
> Thanks for advice!  Don't know what to try.
> 
> Eric
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Stus-List Where to anchor the linear drive?

2014-04-27 Thread Robert Boyer
I'm sure there are differences between our boats and available space, but on my 
LF38 the back end of the linear drive is fastened to the underside of the 
cockpit floor using carriage bolts--it is very sturdy and works great!

Bob

Bob Boyer
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1983 C&C Landfall 38 - Hull #230
Annapolis, Maryland
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Re: Stus-List Where to anchor the linear drive?

2014-04-27 Thread Josh Muckley
I think the PO built a mount for mine and glassed it in.  Obvious
differences because mine is a 37+ but it might give some ideas.

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B8pEh5lnvP1yZ2lzY283ajZETU0/edit?usp=docslist_api

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C&C 37+
Solomons, MD
 On Apr 26, 2014 8:29 PM, "Graham Collins" 
wrote:

> Hi!
> I'm wrestling with the question of where to anchor the free end of a
> linear drive in the dark end of my 35-3, wondering if anyone has any tips?
>  I've got the man-overboard pole equipped version, so the torpedo tube on
> port and just one propane locker to starboard.  It looks to me like I could
> fasten a block onto the propane locker and fasten the free end of the drive
> to this, it would be lined up acceptably and is "relatively" easy.
>  Wondering specifically how other 35-3 owners have a drive installed.
>
> thanks!
>
> --
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> Secret Plans
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Stus-List Annapolis to Bermuda race

2014-04-27 Thread Josh Muckley
Good luck to Joel and crew member Jake.  We passed them heading south while
we were heading north about even with the choptank river.  Radio problems
made hailing difficult.  Show 'em what a C&C can do boys!
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Re: Stus-List Hank on conversion to roller? Yes or no

2014-04-27 Thread Bill Hoyne
Yes I saw that post. I cannot get a hold of the knot on the sheet on the bottom 
of the drum to attach the new sheet on to. That is why I was wondering if I 
could just “dremmel”/ remove the old knot and possibily push the new sheet up 
the hole at the bottom of the drum and feed it through like that. 
Any ideas? I was going to call Hood on Monday.

Bill

Mithrandir
’74 C&C35 MkII
in Victoria,BC
 
On Apr 26, 2014, at 9:36 PM, Jim Watts  wrote:

> Is this any help? http://c34.org/bbs/index.php?topic=6557.0
> 
> 
> Jim Watts
> Paradigm Shift
> C&C 35 Mk III
> Victoria, BC
> 
> 
> On 26 April 2014 21:01, Bill Hoyne  wrote:
> I have a roller furler question. I am trying to replace the roller furling 
> sheet on a Hood Seafurler 3250. There are 4 holes on the drum two on each 
> side 180deg apart. There is a set screw that I can remove from each side but 
> the other hole seems to have something in it but I can’t seem to remove them. 
> Is there s set screw in there? Can I just cut the old sheet and dremel out 
> the old rope without removing the drum? The “old” diagrams I have only show 
> one set screw. Where the others came from I don’t know. Any ideas?
> 
> Thanks,
> Bill
> 
> Mithrandir
> ’74 C&C35 MkII
> in Victoria,BC
> 
> On Apr 25, 2014, at 7:07 PM, Dennis C.  wrote:
> 
>> Curtis,
>> 
>> In my opinion, installing a roller furler is the BEST upgrade you can make 
>> to a boat.  It will increase the value and the marketability dramatically 
>> when you decide to sell the boat.
>> 
>> As for you, you'll never look back.  You'll regret you didn't do it earlier. 
>>  As one reply said, you'll use the boat more and enjoy it more.  There have 
>> been many, many days that I go out for a short sail with just the genoa 
>> because I have a furler.  I just unfurl, sail a bit, furl and head in.  I 
>> often don't even raise the main.  If I had to hank on the headsail, I'd 
>> probably go the club for a beer instead.
>> 
>> Won't be a surprise to some on this list that I would recommend a Harken 
>> MkIV Unit 1 for you.  Having installed several, I really like the design and 
>> operation. That will set you back a bit depending on your installer.  
>> $2500-3000 would be a decent budget number including a halyard restrainer.  
>> I have a Harken MKIII on Touche' and it's been bomb proof.
>> 
>> Your sail maker can help you with your sail decision.  It's easy enough for 
>> a sail maker to remove the hanks and add a tape.  Most sail makers have a 
>> standard per foot charge for this.  As others said, you'll also have to add 
>> a furling cover to the sail for UV protection.  Give all that, you may 
>> decide to purchase a new headsail.  Adding a tape and UV cover might run 
>> $400-700.
>> 
>> Dennis C.
>> Touche' 35-1 #83
>> Mandeville, LA
>> 
>> I'm guessing 
>> 
>> 
>> On Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 12:28 PM, Curtis  wrote:
>> 
>>  if anybody has been reading my post in the last 2 years you know that I'm 
>> green at big boat sailing. I have learned how to sail the C&C30 MK1 using 
>> all hank on sails. that's a:
>> 115%
>> 135%
>> 155%
>> and a 170%
>> We just got back from a bare boat charter in the BVI. I sailed 7 days on a 
>> Jeanneau 36i with a roller. Man what a dream that roller furling system was. 
>> How much trouble will it be to convert my boat? Could I use one of the head 
>> sails to convert or do I have to buy a new sail? Will all my head sails 
>> become un-usable at that point? It may not be worth the money or the wast of 
>> the old sails? Please comment on this if you k now cost of a conversion or 
>> advice in this process.
>> Thanks so much for your help.
>> Curt,
>> 
>> . 
>> 
>> C&C30 MK-1 
>> HIN #  675
>> 
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Re: Stus-List CnC-List Digest, Vol 99, Issue 107

2014-04-27 Thread Tom Buscaglia
  Apparently I pocket emailed the list from my phone.  Never done that before.

Tom Buscaglia
S/V Arera 
1990 C&C 37+/40
Vashon WA
P 206.463.9200


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Re: Stus-List Annapolis to Bermuda race

2014-04-27 Thread John Pennie
On that note - I still owe him a first aid kit.  Joel - can you contact me 
off-list?

John


On Apr 27, 2014, at 11:07 AM, Josh Muckley  wrote:

> Good luck to Joel and crew member Jake.  We passed them heading south while 
> we were heading north about even with the choptank river.  Radio problems 
> made hailing difficult.  Show 'em what a C&C can do boys!
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Re: Stus-List Where to anchor the linear drive?

2014-04-27 Thread Rich Knowles
Graham, if it would be useful, I can have a look...?

Rich

> On Apr 26, 2014, at 22:24, Graham Collins  wrote:
> 
> PM sent, thanks Jim.
> Graham Collins
> Secret Plans
> C&C 35-III #11
> On 2014-04-26 9:42 PM, Jim Watts wrote:
>> Graham, you should talk to Michael Hennesy about this, he ripped his drive 
>> mount off coming back from Bermuda in his 35-3, Indigo, now owned by another 
>> lister. PM him as Rail Meat on SA. 
>> 
>> Jim Watts
>> Paradigm Shift
>> C&C 35 Mk III
>> Victoria, BC
>> 
>> 
>>> On 26 April 2014 17:28, Graham Collins  wrote:
>>> Hi!
>>> I'm wrestling with the question of where to anchor the free end of a linear 
>>> drive in the dark end of my 35-3, wondering if anyone has any tips?  I've 
>>> got the man-overboard pole equipped version, so the torpedo tube on port 
>>> and just one propane locker to starboard.  It looks to me like I could 
>>> fasten a block onto the propane locker and fasten the free end of the drive 
>>> to this, it would be lined up acceptably and is "relatively" easy.  
>>> Wondering specifically how other 35-3 owners have a drive installed.
>>> 
>>> thanks!
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> Graham Collins
>>> Secret Plans
>>> C&C 35-III #11
>>> 
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Re: Stus-List Please DO NOT

2014-04-27 Thread Danny Haughey
That was me...sorry about that.  I pay Juno extra so I can turn off text ads in 
my email but, somehow it got turned back on.

I've turned it back off and tested to my work email.  It seems to be back to 
normal...

As far as the boat shoes, I though it was sailing related...

I won't share that type of thing again.

Danny

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Subject: Stus-List Please DO NOT
Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2014 21:35:57 -0400



DO NOT send links either in the message or in your signature to any 3rd 
party sites that is not sailing or C&C related.

A recent email had a link to something called "The Worst Carb Ever".  That 
kind of stuff is a NO-NO.

Stu


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Re: Stus-List Annapolis to Bermuda race

2014-04-27 Thread Joel Aronson
Thanks!  We did the AYC overnight. Down  near Solomon's and back. Managed
to take the gun after a wild ride.
The44 Widow Maker was in the A fleet.

Joel

On Sunday, April 27, 2014, Josh Muckley  wrote:

> Good luck to Joel and crew member Jake.  We passed them heading south
> while we were heading north about even with the choptank river.  Radio
> problems made hailing difficult.  Show 'em what a C&C can do boys!
>


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Re: Stus-List Lewmar EVO ST 40 winch mounting orientation

2014-04-27 Thread Sylvain Laplante
I went to my favourite chandlery today, they were helding some small "Sail 
Expo" and there were several representatives ( RayMarine, Harken, Lewmar ) and 
I asked him about that ( I have 2 EVO CST30 to install ). He took the time to 
dismount one and showed me, the largest gear should be the closest to the sheet 
first contact point, so that means the largest gear should be facing the 
starboard side. Since they turn in a clockwise direction, the port one will be 
on the inside and the starboard one will face the exterior, slightly toward the 
bow.
But he said that anyway people who race can have entry points from several 
directions on the same winch so it doesn't matter that much  :-)

Sylvain
C&C27 MkIII




 From: John Russo 
To: CnC-List@cnc-list.com 
Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2014 9:37 PM
Subject: Stus-List Lewmar EVO ST 40 winch mounting orientation
 


Help requested 
 
I am mounting my new Lewmar  EVO ST 40 winches tomorrow and the mounting 
diagram in the application brochure shows the output gear orientation to be 90 
degrees to the load as the correct orientation. This  makes sense but my 
winches are on the boat and I seem to remember that there are two gears 180 
degrees apart engaging the drum.  One gear is large and the other smaller and 
the mounting diagram shows only one gear of undetermined size. The parts 
diagram does not call either of these gears an output gear and both are part 
#19 and called ratchet gears. Does anyone know which gear is the output gear 
driving the drum?
 
Thanks for your help in advance.
 
John
Arpeggio 1984 C&C32 
Norwalk, CT    
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Re: Stus-List Please DO NOT

2014-04-27 Thread Richard N. Bush

Danny, your post about the shoes WAS sailing related; (I went to the site and 
bought me a pair, for the boat!) Thanks for the notice!
 

Richard

1985 37 
2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine
Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462 
502-584-7255

 
 
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From: Danny Haughey 
To: cnc-list 
Sent: Sun, Apr 27, 2014 2:28 pm
Subject: Re: Stus-List Please DO NOT


That was me...sorry about that.  I pay Juno extra so I can turn off text ads in 
my email but, somehow it got turned back on.

I've turned it back off and tested to my work email.  It seems to be back to 
normal...

As far as the boat shoes, I though it was sailing related...

I won't share that type of thing again.

Danny

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From: "Stu" 
To: 
Subject: Stus-List Please DO NOT
Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2014 21:35:57 -0400



DO NOT send links either in the message or in your signature to any 3rd 
party sites that is not sailing or C&C related.

A recent email had a link to something called "The Worst Carb Ever".  That 
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Re: Stus-List Annapolis to Bermuda race

2014-04-27 Thread Josh Muckley
Sorry for the misinformation.  You looked good anyway Joel.
On Apr 27, 2014 5:27 PM, "Joel Aronson"  wrote:

> Thanks!  We did the AYC overnight. Down  near Solomon's and back. Managed
> to take the gun after a wild ride.
> The44 Widow Maker was in the A fleet.
>
> Joel
>
> On Sunday, April 27, 2014, Josh Muckley  wrote:
>
>> Good luck to Joel and crew member Jake.  We passed them heading south
>> while we were heading north about even with the choptank river.  Radio
>> problems made hailing difficult.  Show 'em what a C&C can do boys!
>>
>
>
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Stus-List A-4 Water Pump Impeller Replacement

2014-04-27 Thread bobmor99 .
This is more of a question for Moyer Marine but there are still some C&Cs
with A-4s.
Today I finally got around to replacing the Oberdorfer raw water impeller.
It's done a yeoman's job for the past 8 years. The replacement impeller
from Moyer came with a o-ring for the backplate. That fits fine. However,
the impeller is a "little bit" thinner than the old impeller. Bottom line,
a pair of upper and lower weep holes, between the engine and the impeller
cavity leaked a lot with the new impeller. (Not a great description.)  I
put the old impeller back in and the leaking stopped.
You can barely see the bottom weep hole in the attached pic.

Thanks in advance for knowledge shared.
Bob M
Ox 33-1
Jax, FL
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Stus-List Harken Furler for sale - Sidney, BC

2014-04-27 Thread Peter Fell
For Sale:

Mark 1 Unit 0 Harken furling gear. 

Drum assembly, integral turnbuckle, 7/16" diameter toggle, torque tube, halyard 
swivel. 

Approximately 37-1/2 feet total length, but the top 4-inches or so of the foil 
is damaged. The foil is still assembled and the forestay is still installed but 
the top portion of the forestay is damaged as well. Foil would have to be 
trimmed back to a shorter length and new forestay installed. However, when it 
was removed from the boat, there was some spare foil length under the bottom 
collar. 

The furler is date stamped 1993 but the rigger who installed my new unit deemed 
this one to be in very good condition.

Located in Sidney, British Columbia ... 5-minute walk down the road to a local 
marina, so easy to transport the furler to your boat.

Asking $400

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Re: Stus-List Annapolis to Bermuda race

2014-04-27 Thread Joel Aronson
Not at all!  This was our tune-up race.

On Sunday, April 27, 2014, Josh Muckley  wrote:

> Sorry for the misinformation.  You looked good anyway Joel.
> On Apr 27, 2014 5:27 PM, "Joel Aronson" 
> >
> wrote:
>
>> Thanks!  We did the AYC overnight. Down  near Solomon's and back. Managed
>> to take the gun after a wild ride.
>> The44 Widow Maker was in the A fleet.
>>
>> Joel
>>
>> On Sunday, April 27, 2014, Josh Muckley 
>> >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Good luck to Joel and crew member Jake.  We passed them heading south
>>> while we were heading north about even with the choptank river.  Radio
>>> problems made hailing difficult.  Show 'em what a C&C can do boys!
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
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Re: Stus-List Replace impeller on Sherwood pump

2014-04-27 Thread David Knecht
I forgot to report back on this one.  It turns out the the new impeller came 
with 2 O rings and I had presumed they were the same.  In fact, one was larger 
than the other and when I tried the other O ring, it stayed in the groove just 
fine.  At least that is one job completed.  Thanks- Dave

On Apr 6, 2014, at 12:33 AM, Rich Knowles  wrote:

> Put some thick grease or vaseline on the o ring to hold it in place. 
> 
> Rich
> 



David Knecht
Aries
1990 C&C 34+
New London, CT



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Re: Stus-List jammed transmission lever

2014-04-27 Thread Eric Frank
Did that - clear result.  The lever at the pedestal is still jammed - cable 
won't move.  But the transmission is easy to shift even by hand, so it's fine.  
That seems a good (i.e. easier and cheaper-to-fix) result.  Opened the 
pedestal, removed the compass, and the shifting mechanism looks fine from the 
top view.  So seems likely that the cable is rusted, perhaps right down near 
where it exits the sheathing and connects to the tranny lever.  Would moving 
the cable around with pliers right where it exits the sheath, perhaps squirting 
with penetrating oil help?  Other suggestions?

Eric

> You have the first step:  disconnect the cable at the lever and see if the tx 
> lever moves. 
> 
> Rich
> 
>> On Apr 27, 2014, at 7:36, Eric Frank  wrote:
>> 
>> Just replaced the PYI dripless "stuffing box" on Cat's Paw, a 35 C&C Mk II.  
>> With lots of help from the list last fall, got the old one out and just 
>> replaced it with a new one last weekend. The re-installation went very 
>> smoothly and I thought all was well.  But when I fired up the Perkins diesel 
>> yesterday (still on the hard), the shift lever is stuck in neutral.  I 
>> noticed that was true last weekend just after the install, but figured the 
>> engine needed to be running to get it in gear. No banging needed on the prop 
>> shaft to drive the shaft back into the coupling, so I don't think there was 
>> any strain on the transmission.  Would like advice about where to look for 
>> the jam. In the shift lever from the pedestal? In the transmission itself? 
>> Maybe disconnect the shift cable from the transmission and see if I can then 
>> move the shift lever?  Advice from the list soon would be greatly 
>> appreciated.  Launch date is slated for this week, but if the prop shaft has 
>> to be disconnected from the tranny to fix things, launch needs to be delayed.
>> 
>> Thanks for advice!  Don't know what to try.
>> 
>> Eric

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Stus-List Impeller Yamar 2gm

2014-04-27 Thread johnrmcl
Quite a bit a discussion a while back re replacement of impeller in Yanmar 
engines.  Not sure if this was included, but thought I would include.  This is 
a video of replacement of impeller in Yanmar 2gm.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yAba6BabHPs


Cheers,
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Re: Stus-List jammed transmission lever

2014-04-27 Thread Marek Dziedzic
Squirting some teflon based grease (aerosol) might help, at least
temporarily. Especially if the sticking point is close to one of the ends.
But this would be, at best, a temporary fix. If the cable is stuck, I would
plan to replace it very, very soon. At least you can launch, without
worries. 

 

You know that you can operate your boat like the old style steam ship (with
two people- one steering, the other shifting gears below, potentially using
a "machine room telegraph" and a whistle (to confirm the commands).(;-).

 

Marek (in Ottawa)

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Eric
Frank
Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2014 10:49 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List jammed transmission lever

 

Did that - clear result.  The lever at the pedestal is still jammed - cable
won't move.  But the transmission is easy to shift even by hand, so it's
fine.  That seems a good (i.e. easier and cheaper-to-fix) result.  Opened
the pedestal, removed the compass, and the shifting mechanism looks fine
from the top view.  So seems likely that the cable is rusted, perhaps right
down near where it exits the sheathing and connects to the tranny lever.
Would moving the cable around with pliers right where it exits the sheath,
perhaps squirting with penetrating oil help?  Other suggestions?

 

Eric

 

You have the first step:  disconnect the cable at the lever and see if the
tx lever moves. 

Rich




On Apr 27, 2014, at 7:36, Eric Frank  wrote:

 

Just replaced the PYI dripless "stuffing box" on Cat's Paw, a 35 C&C Mk II.
With lots of help from the list last fall, got the old one out and just
replaced it with a new one last weekend. The re-installation went very
smoothly and I thought all was well.  But when I fired up the Perkins diesel
yesterday (still on the hard), the shift lever is stuck in neutral.  I
noticed that was true last weekend just after the install, but figured the
engine needed to be running to get it in gear. No banging needed on the prop
shaft to drive the shaft back into the coupling, so I don't think there was
any strain on the transmission.  Would like advice about where to look for
the jam. In the shift lever from the pedestal? In the transmission itself?
Maybe disconnect the shift cable from the transmission and see if I can then
move the shift lever?  Advice from the list soon would be greatly
appreciated.  Launch date is slated for this week, but if the prop shaft has
to be disconnected from the tranny to fix things, launch needs to be
delayed.

 

Thanks for advice!  Don't know what to try.

 

Eric

 

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Stus-List Stus-list: nice pic of C&C 27s

2014-04-27 Thread Marek Dziedzic
I stumbled on this picture at our Club's web site (NSC in Ottawa, ON). A
nice fleet of C&C 27s rafted up (this is only a small portion of that fleet
- there are 35 of them over all (and 62 of all C&Cs)). I hope the link works
for you.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/sclc20xw4l73vzi/CC-27-raft-up_960x195.jpg 

Marek (in Ottawa)
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Re: Stus-List Stus-list: nice pic of C&C 27s

2014-04-27 Thread Brent Driedger
The hull sure have a whitefish boat shape when viewed from that angle. Very 
pretty. 

Brent
27-5
Lake Winnipeg. 

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> On Apr 27, 2014, at 10:45 PM, Marek Dziedzic  wrote:
> 
> I stumbled on this picture at our Club’s web site (NSC in Ottawa, ON). A nice 
> fleet of C&C 27s rafted up (this is only a small portion of that fleet – 
> there are 35 of them over all (and 62 of all C&Cs)). I hope the link works 
> for you.
> 
> 
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/sclc20xw4l73vzi/CC-27-raft-up_960x195.jpg
> 
> Marek (in Ottawa)
> 
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