Re: Stus-List Now Boat Names

[dwight]

Ed

 

Nice looking boat. The upholstery and exterior labeling on Starship
Enterprise are bold.  Is that a drop keel or shoal draft?   Is first mate
commonly known as Spock to the crew?  How about "wherever we go, we have
fun" that's my prime directive nowadays.

 

  _  

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Edd
Schillay
Sent: March 6, 2014 11:28 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Stus-List Now Boat Names

 

As you may have guessed, my boat's name is based on a Lucille Ball / Desi
Arnez-produced 1960's failed train-wreck NBC television series . . .

 

. . . which led to highly-rated syndication, five spin-off television series
and 12 feature films, not to mention decades and decades of merchandising
dollars for Paramount/Viacom. 

 

For me, though, the Starship Enterprise was an "escape vehicle" - when I got
home from grade school in the 70s, I could leave all the pressures and
troubles behind, turn on WPIX channel 11, and I'll be exploring the final
frontier's strange new worlds, seeking out new life and new civilizations .
. .

 

In 1980, I bought my first sailboat, an O'Day 7-11 sailing dinghy, pretty
much right after the release of The Motion Picture, a wholly lousy film on
may levels, except for the Enterprise itself. Once again, I felt my
imagination was able to escape the day-to-day life in suburbia. There could
be no other name. The sailboat had to be named Enterprise. 

 

When I turned 18, after I got the whole "you're a man now" speech from my
father, I aptly decided to cut school to see the third movie with some
friends for my birthday, and got the worst birthday present ever - the
Enterprise exploded from self-destruct over Planet Genesis. My escape
vehicle was gone. Adulthood slapped me in the face - hard.

 

Fortunately, a couple of years later, I went to see the fourth feature film
- a time-travel story to rescue humpback whales from 20th-Century earth. At
the very end, Kirk and crew were delivered to a brand new Enterprise with a
hull number of NCC-1701-A. The escape vehicle was back and my imagination
could, one again, boldly go.

 

Since then, we have seen several future versions of the famed starship;
1701-B, 1701-C, 1701-D, 1701-E and even a brief glimpse of the 1701-J. 

 

So, like the series, I decided that all of my future vessels will also carry
the name Enterprise, and I'll have my very own escape vehicle to get away
from the pressure of work and life while exploring LI Sound and the
surrounding areas. 

 

As I tell my crew, when sailing on the Enterprise, we have one Prime
Directive - Wherever we go, we go boldly.

 

All the best,

 

Edd

 

Edd M. Schillay

Starship Enterprise

C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B

City Island, NY 

  Starship Enterprise's
Captain's Log

 

 

On Mar 6, 2014, at 8:46 AM, Maturo, John  wrote:





I once raced on Lake St. Clair, Michigan, 1977 or 78, against a boat named
Fujimo and we T-boned her on a crossing tack in about 25 knots of air.  The
helmsman, a nationally ranked Finn sailor could not release the main and the
rudder would not respond in time.  We put about a 2 ft diameter hole in her
stern quarter and knocked a crew member overboard.  Lots of colorful
language and an interesting protest meeting.  Our damage was limited to a
bent bow pulpit.  We were sailing an Erickson 37 named Gold Bug.

My boat, formerly Spirit now 'Ashe is a Yoruba expression for we get it
done.  I am not a scholar of things African, but my mentor, Robert Thompson,
was a professor of African Art and Music.  I lived under his "protection" in
the feudal halls of Yale when he was a Master of a college.

John Maturo
'Ashe, Baltic 39

 

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Re: Stus-List Now Boat Names, Star Trek

[Ken Heaton]

I'd like to know that too.. It would make searching back issues of Edd'
Blog simpler...  ;-)

Ken H.


On 7 March 2014 00:46, Chuck S  wrote:

> Hey Edd,
> I was 12 years old when Star Trek, originally aired.  It really was ground
> breaking with a diverse crew at a time when civil rights was great bunch of
> characters and the women were always dreamy vixens.  Really liked the Next
> Generation where Patrick Stewart played Jean Luc Picard like he was
> Hornblower, another icon of sailing.   And the women were even more
> amazing.  Enterprise was upgraded too.
>
> One thing I never figured out and wanted to ask somebody;  Is there any
> logic in the "Captain's Star Date" numbers?
>
> Chuck
> Resolute
> 1990 C&C 34R
> Atlantic City, NJ
> --
> *From: *"Edd Schillay" 
> *To: *cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Sent: *Thursday, March 6, 2014 10:27:38 AM
> *Subject: *Stus-List  Now Boat Names
>
> As you may have guessed, my boat's name is based on a Lucille Ball / Desi
> Arnez-produced 1960's failed train-wreck NBC television series . . .
>
> . . . which led to highly-rated syndication, five spin-off television
> series and 12 feature films, not to mention decades and decades of
> merchandising dollars for Paramount/Viacom.
>
> For me, though, the Starship Enterprise was an "escape vehicle" -- when I
> got home from grade school in the 70s, I could leave all the pressures and
> troubles behind, turn on WPIX channel 11, and I'll be exploring the final
> frontier's strange new worlds, seeking out new life and new civilizations .
> . .
>
> In 1980, I bought my first sailboat, an O'Day 7-11 sailing dinghy, pretty
> much right after the release of The Motion Picture, a wholly lousy film on
> may levels, except for the Enterprise itself. Once again, I felt my
> imagination was able to escape the day-to-day life in suburbia. There could
> be no other name. The sailboat had to be named Enterprise.
>
> When I turned 18, after I got the whole "you're a man now" speech from my
> father, I aptly decided to cut school to see the third movie with some
> friends for my birthday, and got the worst birthday present ever -- the
> Enterprise exploded from self-destruct over Planet Genesis. My escape
> vehicle was gone. Adulthood slapped me in the face - hard.
>
> Fortunately, a couple of years later, I went to see the fourth feature
> film - a time-travel story to rescue humpback whales from 20th-Century
> earth. At the very end, Kirk and crew were delivered to a brand new
> Enterprise with a hull number of NCC-1701-A. The escape vehicle was back
> and my imagination could, one again, boldly go.
>
> Since then, we have seen several future versions of the famed starship;
> 1701-B, 1701-C, 1701-D, 1701-E and even a brief glimpse of the 1701-J.
>
> So, like the series, I decided that all of my future vessels will also
> carry the name Enterprise, and I'll have my very own escape vehicle to get
> away from the pressure of work and life while exploring LI Sound and the
> surrounding areas.
>
> As I tell my crew, when sailing on the Enterprise, we have one Prime
> Directive -- Wherever we go, we go boldly.
>
> All the best,
>
> Edd
>
> Edd M. Schillay
>  Starship Enterprise
> C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
>  City Island, NY
> Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log 
>
>
> On Mar 6, 2014, at 8:46 AM, Maturo, John  wrote:
>
> I once raced on Lake St. Clair, Michigan, 1977 or 78, against a boat named
> Fujimo and we T-boned her on a crossing tack in about 25 knots of air.  The
> helmsman, a nationally ranked Finn sailor could not release the main and
> the rudder would not respond in time.  We put about a 2 ft diameter hole in
> her stern quarter and knocked a crew member overboard.  Lots of colorful
> language and an interesting protest meeting.  Our damage was limited to a
> bent bow pulpit.  We were sailing an Erickson 37 named Gold Bug.
>
> My boat, formerly Spirit now 'Ashe is a Yoruba expression for we get it
> done.  I am not a scholar of things African, but my mentor, Robert
> Thompson, was a professor of African Art and Music.  I lived under his
> "protection" in the feudal halls of Yale when he was a Master of a college.
>
> John Maturo
> 'Ashe, Baltic 39
>
>
>
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Re: Stus-List Now Boat Names, Star Trek

[Danny Haughey]

I found this on wikipedia... "The following excerpt from Star Trek Guide (April 
17, 1967, p. 25) instructs writers for the original Star Trek TV series on how 
to select stardates for their scripts:[3]"We invented "Stardate" to avoid 
continually mentioning Star Trek's century (actually, about two hundred years 
from now), and getting into arguments about whether this or that would have 
developed by then. Pick any combination of four numbers plus a percentage 
point, use it as your story's stardate. For example, 1313.5 is twelve o'clock 
noon of one day and 1314.5 would be noon of the next day. Each percentage point 
is roughly equivalent to one-tenth of one day. The progression of stardates in 
your script should remain constant but don't worry about whether or not there 
is a progression from other scripts. Stardates are a mathematical formula which 
varies depending on location in the galaxy, velocity of travel, and other 
factors, can vary widely from episode to episode. DannyLolita1973 Viking 
33Westport Point, MAStardate 1875.2

-- Original Message --
From: Ken Heaton 
To: cnc-list 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Now Boat Names, Star Trek
Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2014 06:46:30 -0400


I'd like to know that too.. It would make searching back issues of Edd' Blog 
simpler...  ;-) Ken H.

On 7 March 2014 00:46, Chuck S  wrote:
Hey Edd,
I was 12 years old when Star Trek, originally aired.  It really was ground 
breaking with a diverse crew at a time when civil rights was great bunch of 
characters and the women were always dreamy vixens.  Really liked the Next 
Generation where Patrick Stewart played Jean Luc Picard like he was Hornblower, 
another icon of sailing.   And the women were even more amazing.  Enterprise 
was upgraded too.
 
One thing I never figured out and wanted to ask somebody;  Is there any logic 
in the "Captain's Star Date" numbers?   

Chuck
Resolute
 1990 C&C 34R
Atlantic City, NJFrom: "Edd Schillay" 
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
 Sent: Thursday, March 6, 2014 10:27:38 AM
Subject: Stus-List  Now Boat Names

As you may have guessed, my boat's name is based on a Lucille Ball / Desi 
Arnez-produced 1960’s failed train-wreck NBC television series . . . . . 
. which led to highly-rated syndication, five spin-off television series and 12 
feature films, not to mention decades and decades of merchandising dollars for 
Paramount/Viacom.  For me, though, the Starship Enterprise was an “escape 
vehicle” — when I got home from grade school in the 70s, I could 
leave all the pressures and troubles behind, turn on WPIX channel 11, and 
I’ll be exploring the final frontier’s strange new worlds, seeking 
out new life and new civilizations . . . In 1980, I bought my first sailboat, 
an O’Day 7-11 sailing dinghy, pretty much right after the release of The 
Motion Picture, a wholly lousy film on may levels, except for the Enterprise 
itself. Once again, I felt my imagination was able to escape the day-to-day 
life in suburbia. There could be no other name. The sailboat had to be named 
Enterprise.  When I turned 18, after I got the whole “you’re a man 
now” speech from my father, I aptly decided to cut school to see the 
third movie with some friends for my birthday, and got the worst birthday 
present ever — the Enterprise exploded from self-destruct over Planet 
Genesis. My escape vehicle was gone. Adulthood slapped me in the face - hard. 
Fortunately, a couple of years later, I went to see the fourth feature film - a 
time-travel story to rescue humpback whales from 20th-Century earth. At the 
very end, Kirk and crew were delivered to a brand new Enterprise with a hull 
number of NCC-1701-A. The escape vehicle was back and my imagination could, one 
again, boldly go. Since then, we have seen several future versions of the famed 
starship; 1701-B, 1701-C, 1701-D, 1701-E and even a brief glimpse of the 
1701-J.  So, like the series, I decided that all of my future vessels will also 
carry the name Enterprise, and I’ll have my very own escape vehicle to 
get away from the pressure of work and life while exploring LI Sound and the 
surrounding areas.  As I tell my crew, when sailing on the Enterprise, we have 
one Prime Directive — Wherever we go, we go boldly. All the best, Edd Edd 
M. SchillayStarship EnterpriseC&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-BCity Island, NY 
Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log 
On Mar 6, 2014, at 8:46 AM, Maturo, John  wrote:
I once raced on Lake St. Clair, Michigan, 1977 or 78, against a boat named 
Fujimo and we T-boned her on a crossing tack in about 25 knots of air.  The 
helmsman, a nationally ranked Finn sailor could not release the main and the 
rudder would not respond in time.  We put about a 2 ft diameter hole in her 
stern quarter and knocked a crew member overboard.  Lots of colorful language 
and an interesting protest meeting.  Our damage was limited to a bent bow 
pulpit.  We were sailing an Erickson 37 named Gold Bug.
 
My boat, formerly Spirit now 'Ashe is a Yoruba expre

Re: Stus-List Now Boat Names, Star Trek - crew personalities

[Dennis C.]

Just as a note, Star Trek was one of the first shows to feature an
"ensemble" cast.  Much has been made of how each of the four central
characters, Kirk, Spock, Doc and Scotty, were positioned in the Myers
Briggs personality quadrant.  Googling "Myers Briggs Star Trek" yields some
very interesting articles on the perceived placement of each of character.
Further, you will discover more on the personality placement of characters
in Star Trek, The Next Generation and Star Wars.  Very interesting reads.

To keep this sailing related, as a boat skipper, you manage your crew.
During a race, crew dynamics can influence the performance of the boat.
Having insight into your crews personality types may help you, as a boat
manager, fuse your crew into a cohesive working unit.

Here's a fun way to find out who your crew really is.  Have each of them go
to the link below and take the test.  Next time you're in a relaxed crew
environment, ask them to disclose the results of the test.  Enjoy.

Scroll to the bottom and select the link for your language.  You can give a
fake name when asked.  

Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA


On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 10:46 PM, Chuck S  wrote:

> Hey Edd,
> I was 12 years old when Star Trek, originally aired.  It really was ground
> breaking with a diverse crew at a time when civil rights was great bunch of
> characters and the women were always dreamy vixens.  Really liked the Next
> Generation where Patrick Stewart played Jean Luc Picard like he was
> Hornblower, another icon of sailing.   And the women were even more
> amazing.  Enterprise was upgraded too.
>
> One thing I never figured out and wanted to ask somebody;  Is there any
> logic in the "Captain's Star Date" numbers?
>
> Chuck
> Resolute
> 1990 C&C 34R
> Atlantic City, NJ
> --
> *From: *"Edd Schillay" 
> *To: *cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Sent: *Thursday, March 6, 2014 10:27:38 AM
> *Subject: *Stus-List  Now Boat Names
>
> As you may have guessed, my boat's name is based on a Lucille Ball / Desi
> Arnez-produced 1960's failed train-wreck NBC television series . . .
>
> . . . which led to highly-rated syndication, five spin-off television
> series and 12 feature films, not to mention decades and decades of
> merchandising dollars for Paramount/Viacom.
>
> For me, though, the Starship Enterprise was an "escape vehicle" -- when I
> got home from grade school in the 70s, I could leave all the pressures and
> troubles behind, turn on WPIX channel 11, and I'll be exploring the final
> frontier's strange new worlds, seeking out new life and new civilizations .
> . .
>
> In 1980, I bought my first sailboat, an O'Day 7-11 sailing dinghy, pretty
> much right after the release of The Motion Picture, a wholly lousy film on
> may levels, except for the Enterprise itself. Once again, I felt my
> imagination was able to escape the day-to-day life in suburbia. There could
> be no other name. The sailboat had to be named Enterprise.
>
> When I turned 18, after I got the whole "you're a man now" speech from my
> father, I aptly decided to cut school to see the third movie with some
> friends for my birthday, and got the worst birthday present ever -- the
> Enterprise exploded from self-destruct over Planet Genesis. My escape
> vehicle was gone. Adulthood slapped me in the face - hard.
>
> Fortunately, a couple of years later, I went to see the fourth feature
> film - a time-travel story to rescue humpback whales from 20th-Century
> earth. At the very end, Kirk and crew were delivered to a brand new
> Enterprise with a hull number of NCC-1701-A. The escape vehicle was back
> and my imagination could, one again, boldly go.
>
> Since then, we have seen several future versions of the famed starship;
> 1701-B, 1701-C, 1701-D, 1701-E and even a brief glimpse of the 1701-J.
>
> So, like the series, I decided that all of my future vessels will also
> carry the name Enterprise, and I'll have my very own escape vehicle to get
> away from the pressure of work and life while exploring LI Sound and the
> surrounding areas.
>
> As I tell my crew, when sailing on the Enterprise, we have one Prime
> Directive -- Wherever we go, we go boldly.
>
> All the best,
>
> Edd
>
> Edd M. Schillay
>  Starship Enterprise
> C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
>  City Island, NY
> Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log 
>
>
> On Mar 6, 2014, at 8:46 AM, Maturo, John  wrote:
>
> I once raced on Lake St. Clair, Michigan, 1977 or 78, against a boat named
> Fujimo and we T-boned her on a crossing tack in about 25 knots of air.  The
> helmsman, a nationally ranked Finn sailor could not release the main and
> the rudder would not respond in time.  We put about a 2 ft diameter hole in
> her stern quarter and knocked a crew member overboard.  Lots of colorful
> language and an interesting protest meeting.  Our damage was limited to a
> bent bow pulpit.  We were sailing an Erickson 37 named Gold

Re: Stus-List Now Boat Names, Star Trek - crew personalities

[Danny Haughey]

I'm the The Dreamer Minstrel...  There i said it and I don't care who knows 
it!Funny thing is that this seems pretty accurate...  LOL

-- Original Message --
From: "Dennis C." 
To: CnClist 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Now Boat Names, Star Trek - crew personalities
Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2014 07:12:47 -0600


Just as a note, Star Trek was one of the first shows to feature an "ensemble" 
cast.  Much has been made of how each of the four central characters, Kirk, 
Spock, Doc and Scotty, were positioned in the Myers Briggs personality 
quadrant.  Googling "Myers Briggs Star Trek" yields some very interesting 
articles on the perceived placement of each of character.  Further, you will 
discover more on the personality placement of characters in Star Trek, The Next 
Generation and Star Wars.  Very interesting reads.
 To keep this sailing related, as a boat skipper, you manage your crew.  During 
a race, crew dynamics can influence the performance of the boat.  Having 
insight into your crews personality types may help you, as a boat manager, fuse 
your crew into a cohesive working unit.
 Here's a fun way to find out who your crew really is.  Have each of them go to 
the link below and take the test.  Next time you're in a relaxed crew 
environment, ask them to disclose the results of the test.  Enjoy.
 Scroll to the bottom and select the link for your language.  You can give a 
fake name when asked.   Dennis C.Touche' 35-1 
#83Mandeville, LA


On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 10:46 PM, Chuck S  wrote:
Hey Edd,
I was 12 years old when Star Trek, originally aired.  It really was ground 
breaking with a diverse crew at a time when civil rights was great bunch of 
characters and the women were always dreamy vixens.  Really liked the Next 
Generation where Patrick Stewart played Jean Luc Picard like he was Hornblower, 
another icon of sailing.   And the women were even more amazing.  Enterprise 
was upgraded too.
 
One thing I never figured out and wanted to ask somebody;  Is there any logic 
in the "Captain's Star Date" numbers?   

Chuck
Resolute
 1990 C&C 34R
Atlantic City, NJFrom: "Edd Schillay" 
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
 Sent: Thursday, March 6, 2014 10:27:38 AM
Subject: Stus-List  Now Boat Names

As you may have guessed, my boat's name is based on a Lucille Ball / Desi 
Arnez-produced 1960’s failed train-wreck NBC television series . . . . . 
. which led to highly-rated syndication, five spin-off television series and 12 
feature films, not to mention decades and decades of merchandising dollars for 
Paramount/Viacom.  For me, though, the Starship Enterprise was an “escape 
vehicle” — when I got home from grade school in the 70s, I could 
leave all the pressures and troubles behind, turn on WPIX channel 11, and 
I’ll be exploring the final frontier’s strange new worlds, seeking 
out new life and new civilizations . . . In 1980, I bought my first sailboat, 
an O’Day 7-11 sailing dinghy, pretty much right after the release of The 
Motion Picture, a wholly lousy film on may levels, except for the Enterprise 
itself. Once again, I felt my imagination was able to escape the day-to-day 
life in suburbia. There could be no other name. The sailboat had to be named 
Enterprise.  When I turned 18, after I got the whole “you’re a man 
now” speech from my father, I aptly decided to cut school to see the 
third movie with some friends for my birthday, and got the worst birthday 
present ever — the Enterprise exploded from self-destruct over Planet 
Genesis. My escape vehicle was gone. Adulthood slapped me in the face - hard. 
Fortunately, a couple of years later, I went to see the fourth feature film - a 
time-travel story to rescue humpback whales from 20th-Century earth. At the 
very end, Kirk and crew were delivered to a brand new Enterprise with a hull 
number of NCC-1701-A. The escape vehicle was back and my imagination could, one 
again, boldly go. Since then, we have seen several future versions of the famed 
starship; 1701-B, 1701-C, 1701-D, 1701-E and even a brief glimpse of the 
1701-J.  So, like the series, I decided that all of my future vessels will also 
carry the name Enterprise, and I’ll have my very own escape vehicle to 
get away from the pressure of work and life while exploring LI Sound and the 
surrounding areas.  As I tell my crew, when sailing on the Enterprise, we have 
one Prime Directive — Wherever we go, we go boldly. All the best, Edd Edd 
M. SchillayStarship EnterpriseC&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-BCity Island, NY 
Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log 
On Mar 6, 2014, at 8:46 AM, Maturo, John  wrote:
I once raced on Lake St. Clair, Michigan, 1977 or 78, against a boat named 
Fujimo and we T-boned her on a crossing tack in about 25 knots of air.  The 
helmsman, a nationally ranked Finn sailor could not release the main and the 
rudder would not respond in time.  We put about a 2 ft diameter hole in her 
stern quarter and knocked a crew member overboard.  Lots of colorful 

Re: Stus-List Owners Database

[John irvin]

Will complete when you have decided on parameters
 Thanks for all you do,Sti.

-Original Message-
From: Stu
Sent: 06/03/2014 21:16
To: C&C Email List
Subject: Stus-List Owners Database



Since we lost our popular owners’ database a while ago, I have been trying to 
rework it and put it back online.  I am not sure if the Google maps will be 
included this time, but I will certainly try.
 
 
 
Here are some of the fields I am thinking of including:
 
Boat length – ie: 27 foot, 39 foot, etc.
 
Model or MK – ie: R, +, XL, MK1, MK2, etc.
 
Year
 
Engine – ie: Atomic 4, etc.
 
Boat Name
 
Previous Name(s)
 
Owner(s)
 
Home Port (city, town, etc)
 
Province/State/Country
 
Yacht Club
 
Contact Email (will not be displayed, distributed or sold)
 
Long/Lat (if we get the maps working)
 
 
 
Any other suggestions?
 
 
 
Stu
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Re: Stus-List Now Boat Names, Star Trek - crew personalities

[Richard N. Bush]

OK I'm the Black Knight, I kinda like that maybe a new boat name in the 
making?


Richard
1985 37 CB

Richard N. Bush Law Offices 
2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite 9
Louisville, Kentucky 40220 
502-584-7255



-Original Message-
From: Danny Haughey 
To: cnc-list 
Sent: Fri, Mar 7, 2014 8:57 am
Subject: Re: Stus-List Now Boat Names, Star Trek - crew personalities


I'm the 
The Dreamer Minstrel...  There i said it and I don't care who knows it!
Funny thing is that this seems pretty accurate...  LOL


-- Original Message --
From: "Dennis C." 
To: CnClist 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Now Boat Names, Star Trek - crew personalities
Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2014 07:12:47 -0600





Just as a note, Star Trek was one of the first shows to feature an "ensemble" 
cast.  Much has been made of how each of the four central characters, Kirk, 
Spock, Doc and Scotty, were positioned in the Myers Briggs personality 
quadrant.  Googling "Myers Briggs Star Trek" yields some very interesting 
articles on the perceived placement of each of character.  Further, you will 
discover more on the personality placement of characters in Star Trek, The Next 
Generation and Star Wars.  Very interesting reads.

To keep this sailing related, as a boat skipper, you manage your crew.  During 
a race, crew dynamics can influence the performance of the boat.  Having 
insight into your crews personality types may help you, as a boat manager, fuse 
your crew into a cohesive working unit.

Here's a fun way to find out who your crew really is.  Have each of them go to 
the link below and take the test.  Next time you're in a relaxed crew 
environment, ask them to disclose the results of the test.  Enjoy.

Scroll to the bottom and select the link for your language.  You can give a 
fake name when asked.  
 
Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA






On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 10:46 PM, Chuck S  wrote:


Hey Edd,
I was 12 years old when Star Trek, originally aired.  It really was ground 
breaking with a diverse crew at a time when civil rights was great bunch of 
characters and the women were always dreamy vixens.  Really liked the Next 
Generation where Patrick Stewart played Jean Luc Picard like he was Hornblower, 
another icon of sailing.   And the women were even more amazing.  Enterprise 
was upgraded too.

One thing I never figured out and wanted to ask somebody;  Is there any logic 
in the "Captain's Star Date" numbers?   


Chuck
Resolute
1990 C&C 34R
Atlantic City, NJ
From: "Edd Schillay" 
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Sent: Thursday, March 6, 2014 10:27:38 AM
Subject: Stus-List  Now Boat Names

As you may have guessed, my boat's name is based on a Lucille Ball / Desi 
Arnez-produced 1960’s failed train-wreck NBC television series . . . 
 
. . . which led to highly-rated syndication, five spin-off television series 
and 12 feature films, not to mention decades and decades of merchandising 
dollars for Paramount/Viacom. 
 
For me, though, the Starship Enterprise was an “escape vehicle” — when I got 
home from grade school in the 70s, I could leave all the pressures and troubles 
behind, turn on WPIX channel 11, and I’ll be exploring the final frontier’s 
strange new worlds, seeking out new life and new civilizations . . .
 
In 1980, I bought my first sailboat, an O’Day 7-11 sailing dinghy, pretty much 
right after the release of The Motion Picture, a wholly lousy film on may 
levels, except for the Enterprise itself. Once again, I felt my imagination was 
able to escape the day-to-day life in suburbia. There could be no other name. 
The sailboat had to be named Enterprise. 
 
When I turned 18, after I got the whole “you’re a man now” speech from my 
father, I aptly decided to cut school to see the third movie with some friends 
for my birthday, and got the worst birthday present ever — the Enterprise 
exploded from self-destruct over Planet Genesis. My escape vehicle was gone. 
Adulthood slapped me in the face - hard.
 
Fortunately, a couple of years later, I went to see the fourth feature film - a 
time-travel story to rescue humpback whales from 20th-Century earth. At the 
very end, Kirk and crew were delivered to a brand new Enterprise with a hull 
number of NCC-1701-A. The escape vehicle was back and my imagination could, one 
again, boldly go.
 
Since then, we have seen several future versions of the famed starship; 1701-B, 
1701-C, 1701-D, 1701-E and even a brief glimpse of the 1701-J. 
 
So, like the series, I decided that all of my future vessels will also carry 
the name Enterprise, and I’ll have my very own escape vehicle to get away from 
the pressure of work and life while exploring LI Sound and the surrounding 
areas. 
 
As I tell my crew, when sailing on the Enterprise, we have one Prime Directive 
— Wherever we go, we go boldly.
 
All the best,
 
Edd
 
Edd M. Schillay
Starship Enterprise
C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
City Island, NY 
Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log
 




On Mar 6, 2

Re: Stus-List Now Boat Names, Star Trek

[Edd Schillay]

Chuck and Ken,

Danny is spot-on with his explanation of how Stardates worked with the 
writers of the original series (and all later series). The show’s creators 
wanted to come up with a way to allocate for the passage of time when traveling 
at the speed of light or faster — Interestingly enough it was determined that 
no starship ever did go faster than the speed of light, but was merely 
traveling through a warped space “bubble” created by the ship’s engines (but 
that’s a whole other discussion.)

As to the use of Stardates, many Trekkers and Trekkies who write their 
own stories or keep their own logs, use a “lazy” star date system using the 
date itself, today being Stardate 201403.07. Personally, this method always 
irked me — a numeric decimal system where the the two numbers to the left of 
the decimal point can never go beyond 12 and the numbers to the right of the 
decimal point never going beyond 31. 

So to answer Ken’s question, I devised a new way and any Stardate on my 
blog can be calculated back to an Gregorian “Earth Date”. Hence, today is 
Stardate 11418.1.

The first number, 1, represents the number of centennials after the 
first centennial in which man has travelled into space. 0 would be 1900-1999, 1 
would be years 2000-2099, 2 would be years 2100-2199 and so on. 

The next two numbers, 14, represents the year in that centennial - 
2014. 

The last two numbers and the decimal place represent the percentage of 
the year that has passed. In this case, March 7 is 18.1% into the calendar 
year. 

So, my birthday was Stardate 6643.3. September 11 was Stardate 10169.6. 
The day I commissioned my C&C 37+ as the Enterprise-B was Stardate 10544.7.

And yes, I’m well aware that if I used my brain for something more 
worthwhile, we could have world peace and the end of all diseases by now.


All the best,

Edd


Edd M. Schillay
Starship Enterprise
C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
City Island, NY 
Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log

On Mar 7, 2014, at 5:46 AM, Ken Heaton  wrote:

> I'd like to know that too.. It would make searching back issues of Edd' Blog 
> simpler...  ;-)
> 
> Ken H.
> 
> 
> On 7 March 2014 00:46, Chuck S  wrote:
> Hey Edd,
> I was 12 years old when Star Trek, originally aired.  It really was ground 
> breaking with a diverse crew at a time when civil rights was great bunch of 
> characters and the women were always dreamy vixens.  Really liked the Next 
> Generation where Patrick Stewart played Jean Luc Picard like he was 
> Hornblower, another icon of sailing.   And the women were even more amazing.  
> Enterprise was upgraded too.
> 
> One thing I never figured out and wanted to ask somebody;  Is there any logic 
> in the "Captain's Star Date" numbers?   
> 
> Chuck
> Resolute
> 1990 C&C 34R
> Atlantic City, NJ

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Re: Stus-List Now Boat Names

[Edd Schillay]

Dwight,

Thanks. It’s a Keel/Centerboard model. As for exterior labeling, I 
figure if you’re going to name a boat Starship Enterprise, you might as well go 
all-out with the graphics. As several on the list will confirm, the back of the 
boat says:

ENTERPRISE
- NCC-1701-B - 
NEW YORK, NEW YORK
PLANET EARTH
ALPHA QUADRANT

As for the interior cushions — say good bye. We FINALLY got rid of the 
“Golden Girls” floral print design and now have a soft light brown microfiber - 
Will take some pics once they are installed. 

As for the race crew, we have our own crew dynamics and the roles have 
evolved on their own. My First Officer is my foredeck guy and crew boss, Dave. 

However, usually running my mainsail is my friend Kurt who I have known 
since third grade. Kurt is a computer programmer for Morgan Stanley and, 
amazingly enough, can calculate Time on Time standings in his head while on the 
course at any given time. And, while we do always call him by his name Kurt, he 
is often referred to by others, going as far back to age 8, as my “Spock”.

PS - His/Her/Their name is “Q”, not “Cue” 



All the best,

Edd


Edd M. Schillay
Starship Enterprise
C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
City Island, NY 
Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log

On Mar 7, 2014, at 4:59 AM, dwight  wrote:

> Ed
>  
> Nice looking boat. The upholstery and exterior labeling on Starship 
> Enterprise are bold.  Is that a drop keel or shoal draft?   Is first mate 
> commonly known as Spock to the crew?  How about “wherever we go, we have fun” 
> that’s my prime directive nowadays.
>  
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Re: Stus-List Now Boat Names, Star Trek - crew personalities

[Frederick G Street]

Hmmm… me, too…   :^)

Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI   :^(

On Mar 7, 2014, at 7:54 AM, Danny Haughey  wrote:

> I'm the 
> The Dreamer Minstrel...  There i said it and I don't care who knows it!
> 
> Funny thing is that this seems pretty accurate...  LOL
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Re: Stus-List Now Boat Names

[dwight]

Thanks Edd

 

I agree the new cushions will be a nice upgrade to an already beautiful
yacht and you chose really good material. And thanks on the spelling of Q's
name; most powerful guy on any Star Trek episode I think.

 

Would Dave mind if you called him Spock just while on the boat, that would
sort of fit with your theme.

 

Are you pleased with keel centerboard, never had one so I don't know much
about how they sail, only what I read here sometimes.  Is the drop part
noisy with movement when down and under sail?

 

Cheers

Dwight

 

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From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Edd
Schillay
Sent: March 7, 2014 10:55 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Now Boat Names

 

Dwight,

 

Thanks. It's a Keel/Centerboard model. As for exterior labeling,
I figure if you're going to name a boat Starship Enterprise, you might as
well go all-out with the graphics. As several on the list will confirm, the
back of the boat says:

 

ENTERPRISE

- NCC-1701-B - 

NEW YORK, NEW YORK

PLANET EARTH

ALPHA QUADRANT

 

As for the interior cushions - say good bye. We FINALLY got rid
of the "Golden Girls" floral print design and now have a soft light brown
microfiber - Will take some pics once they are installed. 

 

As for the race crew, we have our own crew dynamics and the
roles have evolved on their own. My First Officer is my foredeck guy and
crew boss, Dave. 

 

However, usually running my mainsail is my friend Kurt who I
have known since third grade. Kurt is a computer programmer for Morgan
Stanley and, amazingly enough, can calculate Time on Time standings in his
head while on the course at any given time. And, while we do always call him
by his name Kurt, he is often referred to by others, going as far back to
age 8, as my "Spock".

 

PS - His/Her/Their name is "Q", not "Cue" 

 

 

All the best,

 

Edd

 

 

Edd M. Schillay

Starship Enterprise

C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B

City Island, NY 

Starship Enterprise's 
Captain's Log

 

On Mar 7, 2014, at 4:59 AM, dwight  wrote:





Ed

 

Nice looking boat. The upholstery and exterior labeling on Starship
Enterprise are bold.  Is that a drop keel or shoal draft?   Is first mate
commonly known as Spock to the crew?  How about "wherever we go, we have
fun" that's my prime directive nowadays.

 

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Re: Stus-List Now Boat Names

[Edd Schillay]

Dwight,

Initially, I was very enthusiastic about owning a keel/centerboard 
model — better pointing upwind, less drag downwind. The process of lowering and 
raising the board is quiet and it’s great to have some control over how much 
you can have down there depending on wind strength — Then, I joined this list 
and heard some horror stories about the cable breaking and the board doing 
(uninsured) damage to the keel. 

So each year, I have my bottom cleaners lower the board and check the 
cable. So far, each year (8 years running), they have said it was fine, but I 
dread the day where I have to replace the cable ($$$). 

Now that I’m transitioning to a more cruising-oriented sailing 
lifestyle, I have been playing with the idea of just glassing it over, forcing 
it to always remain in the up position and never having to inspect or maintain 
the cable again. 


All the best,

Edd


Edd M. Schillay
Starship Enterprise
C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
City Island, NY 
Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log

On Mar 7, 2014, at 10:13 AM, dwight  wrote:

> Thanks Edd
>  
> I agree the new cushions will be a nice upgrade to an already beautiful yacht 
> and you chose really good material. And thanks on the spelling of Q’s name; 
> most powerful guy on any Star Trek episode I think.
>  
> Would Dave mind if you called him Spock just while on the boat, that would 
> sort of fit with your theme.
>  
> Are you pleased with keel centerboard, never had one so I don’t know much 
> about how they sail, only what I read here sometimes.  Is the drop part noisy 
> with movement when down and under sail?
>  
> Cheers
> Dwight
>  
> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Edd 
> Schillay
> Sent: March 7, 2014 10:55 AM
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Now Boat Names
>  
> Dwight,
>  
> Thanks. It’s a Keel/Centerboard model. As for exterior labeling, 
> I figure if you’re going to name a boat Starship Enterprise, you might as 
> well go all-out with the graphics. As several on the list will confirm, the 
> back of the boat says:
>  
> ENTERPRISE
> - NCC-1701-B - 
> NEW YORK, NEW YORK
> PLANET EARTH
> ALPHA QUADRANT
>  
> As for the interior cushions — say good bye. We FINALLY got rid 
> of the “Golden Girls” floral print design and now have a soft light brown 
> microfiber - Will take some pics once they are installed. 
>  
> As for the race crew, we have our own crew dynamics and the roles 
> have evolved on their own. My First Officer is my foredeck guy and crew boss, 
> Dave. 
>  
> However, usually running my mainsail is my friend Kurt who I have 
> known since third grade. Kurt is a computer programmer for Morgan Stanley 
> and, amazingly enough, can calculate Time on Time standings in his head while 
> on the course at any given time. And, while we do always call him by his name 
> Kurt, he is often referred to by others, going as far back to age 8, as my 
> “Spock”.
>  
> PS - His/Her/Their name is “Q”, not “Cue” 
>  
>  
> 
> All the best,
>  
> Edd
>  
>  
> Edd M. Schillay
> Starship Enterprise
> C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
> City Island, NY 
> Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log
>  

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Re: Stus-List Owners Database

[Rich Knowles]

Hull colour

Rich


> On Mar 7, 2014, at 9:59, John irvin  wrote:
> 
> Will complete when you have decided on parameters
> Thanks for all you do,Sti.
> From: Stu
> Sent: 06/03/2014 21:16
> To: C&C Email List
> Subject: Stus-List Owners Database
> 
> Since we lost our popular owners’ database a while ago, I have been trying to 
> rework it and put it back online.  I am not sure if the Google maps will be 
> included this time, but I will certainly try.
>  
> Here are some of the fields I am thinking of including:
> Boat length – ie: 27 foot, 39 foot, etc.
> Model or MK – ie: R, +, XL, MK1, MK2, etc.
> Year
> Engine – ie: Atomic 4, etc.
> Boat Name
> Previous Name(s)
> Owner(s)
> Home Port (city, town, etc)
> Province/State/Country
> Yacht Club
> Contact Email (will not be displayed, distributed or sold)
> Long/Lat (if we get the maps working)
>  
> Any other suggestions?
>  
> Stu
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Re: Stus-List Now Boat Names

[Joel Aronson]

Edd,

I wouldn't think the cable (or Dyneema) would be a major expense.   You
would hurt the resale value and upwind performance if you glassed it over.

Joel


On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 10:26 AM, Edd Schillay  wrote:

> Dwight,
>
> Initially, I was very enthusiastic about owning a keel/centerboard model --
> better pointing upwind, less drag downwind. The process of lowering and
> raising the board is quiet and it's great to have some control over how
> much you can have down there depending on wind strength -- Then, I joined
> this list and heard some horror stories about the cable breaking and the
> board doing (uninsured) damage to the keel.
>
> So each year, I have my bottom cleaners lower the board and check the
> cable. So far, each year (8 years running), they have said it was fine, but
> I dread the day where I have to replace the cable ($$$).
>
> Now that I'm transitioning to a more cruising-oriented sailing lifestyle,
> I have been playing with the idea of just glassing it over, forcing it to
> always remain in the up position and never having to inspect or maintain
> the cable again.
>
>
>
> All the best,
>
> Edd
>
>
> Edd M. Schillay
> Starship Enterprise
> C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
> City Island, NY
> Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log 
>
> On Mar 7, 2014, at 10:13 AM, dwight  wrote:
>
> Thanks Edd
>
> I agree the new cushions will be a nice upgrade to an already beautiful
> yacht and you chose really good material. And thanks on the spelling of Q's
> name; most powerful guy on any Star Trek episode I think.
>
> Would Dave mind if you called him Spock just while on the boat, that would
> sort of fit with your theme.
>
> Are you pleased with keel centerboard, never had one so I don't know much
> about how they sail, only what I read here sometimes.  Is the drop part
> noisy with movement when down and under sail?
>
> Cheers
> Dwight
>
> --
> *From:* CnC-List 
> [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com
> ] *On Behalf Of *Edd Schillay
> *Sent:* March 7, 2014 10:55 AM
> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Now Boat Names
>
> Dwight,
>
> Thanks. It's a Keel/Centerboard model. As for exterior
> labeling, I figure if you're going to name a boat Starship Enterprise, you
> might as well go all-out with the graphics. As several on the list will
> confirm, the back of the boat says:
>
> ENTERPRISE
> - NCC-1701-B -
> NEW YORK, NEW YORK
> PLANET EARTH
> ALPHA QUADRANT
>
> As for the interior cushions -- say good bye. We FINALLY got
> rid of the "Golden Girls" floral print design and now have a soft light
> brown microfiber - Will take some pics once they are installed.
>
> As for the race crew, we have our own crew dynamics and the
> roles have evolved on their own. My First Officer is my foredeck guy and
> crew boss, Dave.
>
> However, usually running my mainsail is my friend Kurt who I
> have known since third grade. Kurt is a computer programmer for Morgan
> Stanley and, amazingly enough, can calculate Time on Time standings in his
> head while on the course at any given time. And, while we do always call
> him by his name Kurt, he is often referred to by others, going as far back
> to age 8, as my "Spock".
>
> PS - His/Her/Their name is "Q", not "Cue"
>
>
>
> All the best,
>
> Edd
>
>
> Edd M. Schillay
> Starship Enterprise
> C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
> City Island, NY
> Starship Enterprise's Captain's 
> Log
>
>
>
>
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[dwight]

Photo and maybe complete details of the yacht, same as listing for sale but
no price, would that be too much work to get on the database

 

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From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Rich
Knowles
Sent: March 7, 2014 11:29 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Owners Database

 

Hull colour

Rich

 


On Mar 7, 2014, at 9:59, John irvin  wrote:

Will complete when you have decided on parameters
Thanks for all you do,Sti.


  _  


From: Stu
Sent: 06/03/2014 21:16
To: C&C Email List
Subject: Stus-List Owners Database

Since we lost our popular owners' database a while ago, I have been trying
to rework it and put it back online.  I am not sure if the Google maps will
be included this time, but I will certainly try.

 

Here are some of the fields I am thinking of including:

Boat length - ie: 27 foot, 39 foot, etc.

Model or MK - ie: R, +, XL, MK1, MK2, etc.

Year

Engine - ie: Atomic 4, etc.

Boat Name

Previous Name(s)

Owner(s)

Home Port (city, town, etc)

Province/State/Country

Yacht Club

Contact Email (will not be displayed, distributed or sold)

Long/Lat (if we get the maps working)

 

Any other suggestions?

 

Stu

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Re: Stus-List Now Boat Names

[Edd Schillay]

Joel,

You’re right. The cable itself would not be a major expense. 

The hauling the boat 10 feet in the air, perhaps as an emergency 
short-haul, and doing the repairs while in a travel lift, dismantling what’s 
there, snaking a new wire through and everything else gets expensive. And if it 
breaks on its own, I’m looking a major out-of-pocket keel repair. 

I’m not so sure about the resale value part. A shoal-draft keel has its 
advantages, especially for cruising. And, a next owner would not need to 
continually inspect and possibly repair the cable.

Upwind performance is the biggie. But, in less than 10, I find the boat 
runs slower VMG than with the board up. And in Western LI Sound, we don’t get 
above 10 all that often. As I said — playing with the idea. 


All the best,

Edd


Edd M. Schillay
Starship Enterprise
C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
City Island, NY 
Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log


On Mar 7, 2014, at 10:34 AM, Joel Aronson  wrote:

> Edd,
> 
> I wouldn't think the cable (or Dyneema) would be a major expense.   You would 
> hurt the resale value and upwind performance if you glassed it over.
> 
> Joel
> 
> 
> On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 10:26 AM, Edd Schillay  wrote:
> Dwight,
> 
>   Initially, I was very enthusiastic about owning a keel/centerboard 
> model — better pointing upwind, less drag downwind. The process of lowering 
> and raising the board is quiet and it’s great to have some control over how 
> much you can have down there depending on wind strength — Then, I joined this 
> list and heard some horror stories about the cable breaking and the board 
> doing (uninsured) damage to the keel. 
> 
>   So each year, I have my bottom cleaners lower the board and check the 
> cable. So far, each year (8 years running), they have said it was fine, but I 
> dread the day where I have to replace the cable ($$$). 
> 
>   Now that I’m transitioning to a more cruising-oriented sailing 
> lifestyle, I have been playing with the idea of just glassing it over, 
> forcing it to always remain in the up position and never having to inspect or 
> maintain the cable again. 
> 
> 
> 
>   All the best,
> 
>   Edd
> 
> 
>   Edd M. Schillay
>   Starship Enterprise
>   C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
>   City Island, NY 
>   Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log
> 

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Re: Stus-List Owners Database

[Andrew Burton]

I like all the ideas put forward so far. Maybe add a cell phone number
hidden where those with a password can access it? I'm thinking it might be
good for inviting anchorage neighbours over for cocktails. Then again, I
usually leave mine off, and I can always just row over and give the invite
in person.

Stu, are you back?

Andy
C&C 40
Peregrine


On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 10:39 AM, dwight  wrote:

>  Photo and maybe complete details of the yacht, same as listing for
> sale but no price, would that be too much work to get on the database
>
>
>  --
>
> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Rich
> Knowles
> *Sent:* March 7, 2014 11:29 AM
> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Owners Database
>
>
>
> Hull colour
>
> Rich
>
>
>
>
> On Mar 7, 2014, at 9:59, John irvin  wrote:
>
>   Will complete when you have decided on parameters
> Thanks for all you do,Sti.
>   --
>
> *From: *Stu
> *Sent: *06/03/2014 21:16
> *To: *C&C Email List
> *Subject: *Stus-List Owners Database
>
> Since we lost our popular owners' database a while ago, I have been trying
> to rework it and put it back online.  I am not sure if the Google maps will
> be included this time, but I will certainly try.
>
>
>
> Here are some of the fields I am thinking of including:
>
> Boat length - ie: 27 foot, 39 foot, etc.
>
> Model or MK - ie: R, +, XL, MK1, MK2, etc.
>
> Year
>
> Engine - ie: Atomic 4, etc.
>
> Boat Name
>
> Previous Name(s)
>
> Owner(s)
>
> Home Port (city, town, etc)
>
> Province/State/Country
>
> Yacht Club
>
> Contact Email (will not be displayed, distributed or sold)
>
> Long/Lat (if we get the maps working)
>
>
>
> Any other suggestions?
>
>
>
> Stu
>
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Stus-List British and other sports cars (now liquid electrical tape)

[Marek Dziedzic]

I use it for many things (including a quick whipping on occasion), but be aware 
that it has a tendency to dry out, even in the container that seems to be well 
locked. The solvents used in this product are very volatile. 

Marek (in Ottawa)
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Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2014 19:13:54 -0400
From: Rich Knowles 
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Since it's still the middle of the latest Ice Age up here in the still frozen 
north, our boats are buried in ice and snow, and I got bored waiting for the 
Big Melt:

I found a marine product in the Binnacle that turns out to be very useful for 
touching up those wear spots on sports car convertible tops where they rub when 
the top is down: 
Star brite Liquid Electrical Tape. Comes in black, red, green, white and clear. 
Does a great job on my black top. Especially when I use the black. Probably 
works on dodgers and makes a good band-aid too, although I haven't tried that.

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Re: Stus-List Now Boat Names

[Joel Aronson]

Edd,

I bet having the cable done when she's hauled is cheaper than the glass job.

I'd have trouble finding a lift that could accommodate 10 foot draft!  I
had to wait 3 days for the right tide with 6.5 due to a pesky westerly wind
blowing everything out of the river this fall.

Joel


On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 10:44 AM, Edd Schillay  wrote:

> Joel,
>
> You're right. The cable itself would not be a major expense.
>
> The hauling the boat 10 feet in the air, perhaps as an emergency
> short-haul, and doing the repairs while in a travel lift, dismantling
> what's there, snaking a new wire through and everything else gets
> expensive. And if it breaks on its own, I'm looking a major out-of-pocket
> keel repair.
>
> I'm not so sure about the resale value part. A shoal-draft keel has its
> advantages, especially for cruising. And, a next owner would not need to
> continually inspect and possibly repair the cable.
>
> Upwind performance is the biggie. But, in less than 10, I find the boat
> runs slower VMG than with the board up. And in Western LI Sound, we don't
> get above 10 all that often. As I said -- playing with the idea.
>
>
>
> All the best,
>
> Edd
>
>
> Edd M. Schillay
> Starship Enterprise
> C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
> City Island, NY
> Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log 
>
>
> On Mar 7, 2014, at 10:34 AM, Joel Aronson  wrote:
>
> Edd,
>
> I wouldn't think the cable (or Dyneema) would be a major expense.   You
> would hurt the resale value and upwind performance if you glassed it over.
>
> Joel
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 10:26 AM, Edd Schillay  wrote:
>
>> Dwight,
>>
>> Initially, I was very enthusiastic about owning a keel/centerboard model
>> -- better pointing upwind, less drag downwind. The process of lowering and
>> raising the board is quiet and it's great to have some control over how
>> much you can have down there depending on wind strength -- Then, I joined
>> this list and heard some horror stories about the cable breaking and the
>> board doing (uninsured) damage to the keel.
>>
>> So each year, I have my bottom cleaners lower the board and check the
>> cable. So far, each year (8 years running), they have said it was fine, but
>> I dread the day where I have to replace the cable ($$$).
>>
>> Now that I'm transitioning to a more cruising-oriented sailing lifestyle,
>> I have been playing with the idea of just glassing it over, forcing it to
>> always remain in the up position and never having to inspect or maintain
>> the cable again.
>>
>>
>>
>> All the best,
>>
>> Edd
>>
>>
>>  Edd M. Schillay
>> Starship Enterprise
>> C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
>>  City Island, NY
>>  Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log 
>>
>>
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Re: Stus-List British and other sports cars (now Liquid electric tape)

[Marek Dziedzic]

If it is sold for $7 at Lowes in the US, it would be sold for about $14 in 
Canada, so Binnacle (and Star Brite) are not overcharging that much.

Marek (in Ottawa)
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Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2014 20:16:28 -0500
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I hate to burst the bubble of discovery, but the same stuff is available at Ace 
Hardware and Lowes. Besides using it on wiring connections, I find it very 
useful to dip the end of lines in it after I whip them. The lines seem to never 
get frayed, and I can color code them.

There's a product called "Dip It Whip It" sold in boat stores that is the same 
stuff at twice the price.

BTW, liquid electrical tape is $6.98 at Lowes. But then, it's not being sold 
for boats.

Rick Brass
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Re: Stus-List Now Boat Names

[Bill Coleman]

This  kind of reminds me of the old English tale of the axe stuck in the
ceiling and everyone crying  about what would happen if it fell out and
killed her future husband. Till a man suitor came along and pulled the axe
out of the ceiling.

Why not be proactive and just replace it? If you prepare everything
beforehand you can just do it when you are going in in the spring  or coming
out in the fall.  You already know it will last 8 years, and every year that
passes you will be worrying even more - when you take out the old one you
can check the condition and determine if you can wait till, say Stardate
11242.5

 

Bill Coleman

C&C 39 animated_favicon1

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Edd
Schillay
Sent: Friday, March 07, 2014 10:44 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Now Boat Names

 

Joel,

 

You're right. The cable itself would not be a major expense. 

 

The hauling the boat 10 feet in the air, perhaps as an emergency
short-haul, and doing the repairs while in a travel lift, dismantling what's
there, snaking a new wire through and everything else gets expensive. And if
it breaks on its own, I'm looking a major out-of-pocket keel repair. 

 

I'm not so sure about the resale value part. A shoal-draft keel
has its advantages, especially for cruising. And, a next owner would not
need to continually inspect and possibly repair the cable.

 

Upwind performance is the biggie. But, in less than 10, I find
the boat runs slower VMG than with the board up. And in Western LI Sound, we
don't get above 10 all that often. As I said - playing with the idea. 

 

All the best,

 

Edd

 

 

Edd M. Schillay

Starship Enterprise

C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B

City Island, NY 

Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log
 

 

 

On Mar 7, 2014, at 10:34 AM, Joel Aronson  wrote:





Edd,

 

I wouldn't think the cable (or Dyneema) would be a major expense.   You
would hurt the resale value and upwind performance if you glassed it over.

 

Joel

 

On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 10:26 AM, Edd Schillay  wrote:



Dwight,

 

Initially, I was very enthusiastic about owning a keel/centerboard model -
better pointing upwind, less drag downwind. The process of lowering and
raising the board is quiet and it's great to have some control over how much
you can have down there depending on wind strength - Then, I joined this
list and heard some horror stories about the cable breaking and the board
doing (uninsured) damage to the keel. 

 

So each year, I have my bottom cleaners lower the board and check the cable.
So far, each year (8 years running), they have said it was fine, but I dread
the day where I have to replace the cable ($$$). 

 

Now that I'm transitioning to a more cruising-oriented sailing lifestyle, I
have been playing with the idea of just glassing it over, forcing it to
always remain in the up position and never having to inspect or maintain the
cable again. 

 

 

All the best,

 

Edd

 

 

Edd M. Schillay

Starship Enterprise

C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B

City Island, NY 

Starship Enterprise's   Captain's Log

 

 

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Re: Stus-List Owners Database

[Persuasion]

CAN'T WAIT


On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 10:28 AM, Rich Knowles  wrote:

> Hull colour
>
> Rich
>
>
> On Mar 7, 2014, at 9:59, John irvin  wrote:
>
> Will complete when you have decided on parameters
> Thanks for all you do,Sti.
> --
> From: Stu
> Sent: 06/03/2014 21:16
> To: C&C Email List
> Subject: Stus-List Owners Database
>
>  Since we lost our popular owners' database a while ago, I have been
> trying to rework it and put it back online.  I am not sure if the Google
> maps will be included this time, but I will certainly try.
>
> Here are some of the fields I am thinking of including:
> Boat length - ie: 27 foot, 39 foot, etc.
> Model or MK - ie: R, +, XL, MK1, MK2, etc.
> Year
> Engine - ie: Atomic 4, etc.
> Boat Name
> Previous Name(s)
> Owner(s)
> Home Port (city, town, etc)
> Province/State/Country
> Yacht Club
> Contact Email (will not be displayed, distributed or sold)
> Long/Lat (if we get the maps working)
>
> Any other suggestions?
>
> Stu
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Stus-List Fwd: Now Boat Names

[Persuasion]

Edd

Mine has been jammed up for at least 4 years.  Always say I should find a
travel lift and RR&R the centre board.  Just doesn't seem to be worth the
aggregation.

Don't miss it, but I would never glass it over.  Way back when I was
looking for a boat there was a C&C 37 K/CB for sale around Annapolis that
the owner applied torpedoes to the keel and removed the CB.  My broker
really want me to look at it to satisfy his curiosity but I didn't.



-- Forwarded message --
From: Edd Schillay 
Date: Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 10:26 AM
Subject: Re: Stus-List Now Boat Names
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com


Dwight,

Initially, I was very enthusiastic about owning a keel/centerboard model --
better pointing upwind, less drag downwind. The process of lowering and
raising the board is quiet and it's great to have some control over how
much you can have down there depending on wind strength -- Then, I joined
this list and heard some horror stories about the cable breaking and the
board doing (uninsured) damage to the keel.

So each year, I have my bottom cleaners lower the board and check the
cable. So far, each year (8 years running), they have said it was fine, but
I dread the day where I have to replace the cable ($$$).

Now that I'm transitioning to a more cruising-oriented sailing lifestyle, I
have been playing with the idea of just glassing it over, forcing it to
always remain in the up position and never having to inspect or maintain
the cable again.


All the best,

Edd


 Edd M. Schillay
Starship Enterprise
C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
 City Island, NY
 Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log 

On Mar 7, 2014, at 10:13 AM, dwight  wrote:

Thanks Edd

I agree the new cushions will be a nice upgrade to an already beautiful
yacht and you chose really good material. And thanks on the spelling of Q's
name; most powerful guy on any Star Trek episode I think.

Would Dave mind if you called him Spock just while on the boat, that would
sort of fit with your theme.

Are you pleased with keel centerboard, never had one so I don't know much
about how they sail, only what I read here sometimes.  Is the drop part
noisy with movement when down and under sail?

Cheers
Dwight

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] *On Behalf Of *Edd Schillay
*Sent:* March 7, 2014 10:55 AM
*To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
*Subject:* Re: Stus-List Now Boat Names

Dwight,

Thanks. It's a Keel/Centerboard model. As for exterior
labeling, I figure if you're going to name a boat Starship Enterprise, you
might as well go all-out with the graphics. As several on the list will
confirm, the back of the boat says:

ENTERPRISE
- NCC-1701-B -
NEW YORK, NEW YORK
PLANET EARTH
ALPHA QUADRANT

As for the interior cushions -- say good bye. We FINALLY got rid
of the "Golden Girls" floral print design and now have a soft light brown
microfiber - Will take some pics once they are installed.

As for the race crew, we have our own crew dynamics and the
roles have evolved on their own. My First Officer is my foredeck guy and
crew boss, Dave.

However, usually running my mainsail is my friend Kurt who I
have known since third grade. Kurt is a computer programmer for Morgan
Stanley and, amazingly enough, can calculate Time on Time standings in his
head while on the course at any given time. And, while we do always call
him by his name Kurt, he is often referred to by others, going as far back
to age 8, as my "Spock".

PS - His/Her/Their name is "Q", not "Cue"



All the best,

Edd


Edd M. Schillay
Starship Enterprise
C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
City Island, NY
Starship Enterprise's Captain's
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Re: Stus-List Now Boat Names

[Edd Schillay]

Bill,

Where the Enterprise is now, the travelift is never 10 feet above dry 
land, and, as Joel mentioned, it’s hard to find a place with a lift that far 
off the ground. In order the replace the cable, the board must be completely 
down. 

A short haul in my area would be several hundred dollars alone. 
materials an labor would probably be another hundred or so.

I bet I can get it glassed over for $100 right where she is. 


All the best,

Edd


Edd M. Schillay
Starship Enterprise
C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
City Island, NY 
Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log

On Mar 7, 2014, at 11:14 AM, Bill Coleman  wrote:

> This  kind of reminds me of the old English tale of the axe stuck in the 
> ceiling and everyone crying  about what would happen if it fell out and 
> killed her future husband. Till a man suitor came along and pulled the axe 
> out of the ceiling.
> Why not be proactive and just replace it? If you prepare everything 
> beforehand you can just do it when you are going in in the spring  or coming 
> out in the fall.  You already know it will last 8 years, and every year that 
> passes you will be worrying even more – when you take out the old one you can 
> check the condition and determine if you can wait till, say Stardate 11242.5
>  
> Bill Coleman
> C&C 39 
>  
> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Edd 
> Schillay
> Sent: Friday, March 07, 2014 10:44 AM
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Now Boat Names
>  
> Joel,
>  
> You’re right. The cable itself would not be a major expense. 
>  
> The hauling the boat 10 feet in the air, perhaps as an emergency 
> short-haul, and doing the repairs while in a travel lift, dismantling what’s 
> there, snaking a new wire through and everything else gets expensive. And if 
> it breaks on its own, I’m looking a major out-of-pocket keel repair. 
>  
> I’m not so sure about the resale value part. A shoal-draft keel 
> has its advantages, especially for cruising. And, a next owner would not need 
> to continually inspect and possibly repair the cable.
>  
> Upwind performance is the biggie. But, in less than 10, I find 
> the boat runs slower VMG than with the board up. And in Western LI Sound, we 
> don’t get above 10 all that often. As I said — playing with the idea. 
>  
> 
> All the best,
>  
> Edd
>  
>  
> Edd M. Schillay
> Starship Enterprise
> C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
> City Island, NY 
> Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log
>  
>  
> On Mar 7, 2014, at 10:34 AM, Joel Aronson  wrote:
> 
> 
> Edd,
>  
> I wouldn't think the cable (or Dyneema) would be a major expense.   You would 
> hurt the resale value and upwind performance if you glassed it over.
>  
> Joel
>  
> 
> On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 10:26 AM, Edd Schillay  wrote:
> 
> Dwight,
>  
> Initially, I was very enthusiastic about owning a keel/centerboard model — 
> better pointing upwind, less drag downwind. The process of lowering and 
> raising the board is quiet and it’s great to have some control over how much 
> you can have down there depending on wind strength — Then, I joined this list 
> and heard some horror stories about the cable breaking and the board doing 
> (uninsured) damage to the keel. 
>  
> So each year, I have my bottom cleaners lower the board and check the cable. 
> So far, each year (8 years running), they have said it was fine, but I dread 
> the day where I have to replace the cable ($$$). 
>  
> Now that I’m transitioning to a more cruising-oriented sailing lifestyle, I 
> have been playing with the idea of just glassing it over, forcing it to 
> always remain in the up position and never having to inspect or maintain the 
> cable again. 
>  
>  
> 
> All the best,
>  
> Edd
>  
>  
> Edd M. Schillay
> Starship Enterprise
> C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
> City Island, NY 
> Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log
>  
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Re: Stus-List Fwd: Now Boat Names

[Edd Schillay]

I wouldn’t remove the board or add a bulb — never sure I’d get the weight just 
right. I’m just thinking of glassing the board in. Id say, right now, I’m 
sailing 90-95 percent of the time with the board up anyway. 


All the best,

Edd


Edd M. Schillay
Starship Enterprise
C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
City Island, NY 
Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log

On Mar 7, 2014, at 11:20 AM, Persuasion  wrote:

> Edd
> 
> Mine has been jammed up for at least 4 years.  Always say I should find a 
> travel lift and RR&R the centre board.  Just doesn't seem to be worth the 
> aggregation.
> 
> Don't miss it, but I would never glass it over.  Way back when I was looking 
> for a boat there was a C&C 37 K/CB for sale around Annapolis that the owner 
> applied torpedoes to the keel and removed the CB.  My broker really want me 
> to look at it to satisfy his curiosity but I didn't.
> 
> 
> 
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: Edd Schillay 
> Date: Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 10:26 AM
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Now Boat Names
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> 
> 
> Dwight,
> 
>   Initially, I was very enthusiastic about owning a keel/centerboard 
> model — better pointing upwind, less drag downwind. The process of lowering 
> and raising the board is quiet and it’s great to have some control over how 
> much you can have down there depending on wind strength — Then, I joined this 
> list and heard some horror stories about the cable breaking and the board 
> doing (uninsured) damage to the keel. 
> 
>   So each year, I have my bottom cleaners lower the board and check the 
> cable. So far, each year (8 years running), they have said it was fine, but I 
> dread the day where I have to replace the cable ($$$). 
> 
>   Now that I’m transitioning to a more cruising-oriented sailing 
> lifestyle, I have been playing with the idea of just glassing it over, 
> forcing it to always remain in the up position and never having to inspect or 
> maintain the cable again. 
> 
> 
>   All the best,
> 
>   Edd
> 
> 
>   Edd M. Schillay
>   Starship Enterprise
>   C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
>   City Island, NY 
>   Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log
> 
> On Mar 7, 2014, at 10:13 AM, dwight  wrote:
> 
>> Thanks Edd
>>  
>> I agree the new cushions will be a nice upgrade to an already beautiful 
>> yacht and you chose really good material. And thanks on the spelling of Q’s 
>> name; most powerful guy on any Star Trek episode I think.
>>  
>> Would Dave mind if you called him Spock just while on the boat, that would 
>> sort of fit with your theme.
>>  
>> Are you pleased with keel centerboard, never had one so I don’t know much 
>> about how they sail, only what I read here sometimes.  Is the drop part 
>> noisy with movement when down and under sail?
>>  
>> Cheers
>> Dwight
>>  
>> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Edd 
>> Schillay
>> Sent: March 7, 2014 10:55 AM
>> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>> Subject: Re: Stus-List Now Boat Names
>>  
>> Dwight,
>>  
>> Thanks. It’s a Keel/Centerboard model. As for exterior labeling, 
>> I figure if you’re going to name a boat Starship Enterprise, you might as 
>> well go all-out with the graphics. As several on the list will confirm, the 
>> back of the boat says:
>>  
>> ENTERPRISE
>> - NCC-1701-B - 
>> NEW YORK, NEW YORK
>> PLANET EARTH
>> ALPHA QUADRANT
>>  
>> As for the interior cushions — say good bye. We FINALLY got rid 
>> of the “Golden Girls” floral print design and now have a soft light brown 
>> microfiber - Will take some pics once they are installed. 
>>  
>> As for the race crew, we have our own crew dynamics and the 
>> roles have evolved on their own. My First Officer is my foredeck guy and 
>> crew boss, Dave. 
>>  
>> However, usually running my mainsail is my friend Kurt who I 
>> have known since third grade. Kurt is a computer programmer for Morgan 
>> Stanley and, amazingly enough, can calculate Time on Time standings in his 
>> head while on the course at any given time. And, while we do always call him 
>> by his name Kurt, he is often referred to by others, going as far back to 
>> age 8, as my “Spock”.
>>  
>> PS - His/Her/Their name is “Q”, not “Cue” 
>>  
>>  
>> 
>> All the best,
>>  
>> Edd
>>  
>>  
>> Edd M. Schillay
>> Starship Enterprise
>> C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
>> City Island, NY 
>> Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log
>>  
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Stus-List FW: Now Boat Names

[Bill Coleman]

Couldn't you drop the board in the well and bring it right to the edge? Last
boat of the day.  Or, if you don't like that, bring it off the pavement and
dig a hole?  That is how I got my rudder out!

 

Bill Coleman

C&C 39 

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Edd
Schillay
Sent: Friday, March 07, 2014 11:22 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Now Boat Names

 

Bill,

 

Where the Enterprise is now, the travelift is never 10 feet
above dry land, and, as Joel mentioned, it's hard to find a place with a
lift that far off the ground. In order the replace the cable, the board must
be completely down. 

 

A short haul in my area would be several hundred dollars alone.
materials an labor would probably be another hundred or so.

 

I bet I can get it glassed over for $100 right where she is. 

 

All the best,

 

Edd

 

 

Edd M. Schillay

Starship Enterprise

C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B

City Island, NY 

Starship Enterprise's 
Captain's Log

 

On Mar 7, 2014, at 11:14 AM, Bill Coleman  wrote:

 

This  kind of reminds me of the old English tale of the axe stuck in the
ceiling and everyone crying  about what would happen if it fell out and
killed her future husband. Till a man suitor came along and pulled the axe
out of the ceiling.

Why not be proactive and just replace it? If you prepare everything
beforehand you can just do it when you are going in in the spring  or coming
out in the fall.  You already know it will last 8 years, and every year that
passes you will be worrying even more - when you take out the old one you
can check the condition and determine if you can wait till, say Stardate
11242.5

 

Bill Coleman

C&C 39 

 

Joel,

 

You're right. The cable itself would not be a major expense. 

 

The hauling the boat 10 feet in the air, perhaps as an emergency
short-haul, and doing the repairs while in a travel lift, dismantling what's
there, snaking a new wire through and everything else gets expensive. And if
it breaks on its own, I'm looking a major out-of-pocket keel repair. 

 

I'm not so sure about the resale value part. A shoal-draft keel
has its advantages, especially for cruising. And, a next owner would not
need to continually inspect and possibly repair the cable.

 

Upwind performance is the biggie. But, in less than 10, I find
the boat runs slower VMG than with the board up. And in Western LI Sound, we
don't get above 10 all that often. As I said - playing with the idea. 

 

All the best,

 

Edd

 

 

 

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[cenelson]

My centerboard is similar if not identical to those on the 37s--I can't prove 
it but I think its design was copied from the 37s--I don't think an entire new 
trunk/board was designed for the
34/36 of which mine is hull #77.

That said, be sure that the entire cable is inspected during your haul out. 
Without removing the pennant stop on the cabin top, this is impossible since 
this stop prevents the board from
going further down than maximum and at this maximum, it is virtually impossible 
to inspect the cable except by feeling the very end of it near the board via 
the aft end of the trunk. If the cable
is worn somewhere else (besides on what can be seen on the cabin top), it will 
never be found unless the floor boards are removed and the sheaves inspected 
where the cable passes over them while moving the board between the maximum up 
and down positions. This is now my drill during my annual haul-outs.

Further, if you do have a catastrophic failure and the board falls and is 
stopped by the forward part of the trunk, stop sailing immediately and slowly 
motor back to port.

The athwartship pressure on the board when sailing is taken up by the sides of 
the trunk--when it is fully dropped (cable loss), it has NO support from the 
trunk and is hanging
only by the pin. If you continue sailing with the board extended this way, you 
will rip it out of the boat if it is still there. If the board is gone, 
motor/sail home and glass the slot over or rebuild/install a new board!

The latter happened once to me and I built another board. The former happened 
once but while the new board was down so only the pennant needed replaced.

Such are, as you know, the vagaries of owning a centerboard boat. OTOH, with a 
4.5 ft. draft with the board up. I can get into virtually any marina on the NC 
coast/sounds and
still go to weather with the fin keels. Downwind, as they say "...not so 
much..." with my relatively massive centerboard trunk with the board tucked up 
inside it.

Trade-offs, trade-offs, etc.,

Charlie Nelson
Water Phantom
C&C 35 XL/kcb
1995





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-Original Message-
From: Joel Aronson 
To: cnc-list 
Sent: Fri, Mar 7, 2014 11:02 am
Subject: Re: Stus-List Now Boat Names


Edd,


I bet having the cable done when she's hauled is cheaper than the glass job.


I'd have trouble finding a lift that could accommodate 10 foot draft!  I had to 
wait 3 days for the right tide with 6.5 due to a pesky westerly wind blowing 
everything out of the river this fall.


Joel




On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 10:44 AM, Edd Schillay  wrote:

Joel,


You’re right. The cable itself would not be a major expense. 


The hauling the boat 10 feet in the air, perhaps as an emergency 
short-haul, and doing the repairs while in a travel lift, dismantling what’s 
there, snaking a new wire through and everything else gets expensive. And if it 
breaks on its own, I’m looking a major out-of-pocket keel repair. 


I’m not so sure about the resale value part. A shoal-draft keel has its 
advantages, especially for cruising. And, a next owner would not need to 
continually inspect and possibly repair the cable.


Upwind performance is the biggie. But, in less than 10, I find the boat 
runs slower VMG than with the board up. And in Western LI Sound, we don’t get 
above 10 all that often. As I said — playing with the idea. 





All the best,


Edd




Edd M. Schillay
Starship Enterprise
C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
City Island, NY 

Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log





On Mar 7, 2014, at 10:34 AM, Joel Aronson  wrote:


Edd,


I wouldn't think the cable (or Dyneema) would be a major expense.   You would 
hurt the resale value and upwind performance if you glassed it over.


Joel




On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 10:26 AM, Edd Schillay  wrote:

Dwight,


Initially, I was very enthusiastic about owning a keel/centerboard 
model — better pointing upwind, less drag downwind. The process of lowering and 
raising the board is quiet and it’s great to have some control over how much 
you can have down there depending on wind strength — Then, I joined this list 
and heard some horror stories about the cable breaking and the board doing 
(uninsured) damage to the keel. 


So each year, I have my bottom cleaners lower the board and check the 
cable. So far, each year (8 years running), they have said it was fine, but I 
dread the day where I have to replace the cable ($$$). 


Now that I’m transitioning to a more cruising-oriented sailing 
lifestyle, I have been playing with the idea of just glassing it over, forcing 
it to always remain in the up position and never having to inspect or maintain 
the cable again. 





All the best,


Edd




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Starship Enterprise
C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
City Island, NY 

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Re: Stus-List FW: Now Boat Names

[Persuasion]

Could a diver replace the cable.

Mike


On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 11:32 AM, Bill Coleman  wrote:

>  Couldn't you drop the board in the well and bring it right to the edge?
> Last boat of the day.  Or, if you don't like that, bring it off the
> pavement and dig a hole?  That is how I got my rudder out!
>
>
>
> Bill Coleman
>
> C&C 39
>
>
>
> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Edd
> Schillay
> *Sent:* Friday, March 07, 2014 11:22 AM
> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Now Boat Names
>
>
>
> Bill,
>
>
>
> Where the Enterprise is now, the travelift is never 10 feet
> above dry land, and, as Joel mentioned, it's hard to find a place with a
> lift that far off the ground. In order the replace the cable, the board
> must be completely down.
>
>
>
> A short haul in my area would be several hundred dollars
> alone. materials an labor would probably be another hundred or so.
>
>
>
> I bet I can get it glassed over for $100 right where she is.
>
>
>
> All the best,
>
>
>
> Edd
>
>
>
>
>
> Edd M. Schillay
>
> Starship Enterprise
>
> C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
>
> City Island, NY
>
> Starship Enterprise's Captain's 
> Log
>
>
>
> On Mar 7, 2014, at 11:14 AM, Bill Coleman  wrote:
>
>
>
> This  kind of reminds me of the old English tale of the axe stuck in the
> ceiling and everyone crying  about what would happen if it fell out and
> killed her future husband. Till a man suitor came along and pulled the axe
> out of the ceiling.
>
> Why not be proactive and just replace it? If you prepare everything
> beforehand you can just do it when you are going in in the spring  or
> coming out in the fall.  You already know it will last 8 years, and every
> year that passes you will be worrying even more - when you take out the old
> one you can check the condition and determine if you can wait till, say
> Stardate 11242.5
>
>
>
> Bill Coleman
>
> C&C 39 
>
>
>
> Joel,
>
>
>
> You're right. The cable itself would not be a major expense.
>
>
>
> The hauling the boat 10 feet in the air, perhaps as an
> emergency short-haul, and doing the repairs while in a travel lift,
> dismantling what's there, snaking a new wire through and everything else
> gets expensive. And if it breaks on its own, I'm looking a major
> out-of-pocket keel repair.
>
>
>
> I'm not so sure about the resale value part. A shoal-draft
> keel has its advantages, especially for cruising. And, a next owner would
> not need to continually inspect and possibly repair the cable.
>
>
>
> Upwind performance is the biggie. But, in less than 10, I
> find the boat runs slower VMG than with the board up. And in Western LI
> Sound, we don't get above 10 all that often. As I said -- playing with the
> idea.
>
>
>
> All the best,
>
>
>
> Edd
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: Stus-List Fwd: Now Boat Names

[Gary Nylander]

If you are sailing almost all the time with the board up, why not just put a 
bolt through it and leave it where it is? When, (and if) you decide to sell, 
the next buyer can make his/her mind up about using it. You could even fashion 
a cover for the slot and improve your performance by getting rid of the 
turbulence. I would hesitate to stick the board up in a permanent fashion.

Gary (another shallow water sailor)
  - Original Message - 
  From: Edd Schillay 
  To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
  Sent: Friday, March 07, 2014 11:25 AM
  Subject: Re: Stus-List Fwd: Now Boat Names


  I wouldn’t remove the board or add a bulb — never sure I’d get the weight 
just right. I’m just thinking of glassing the board in. Id say, right now, I’m 
sailing 90-95 percent of the time with the board up anyway. 




  All the best,


  Edd




  Edd M. Schillay
  Starship Enterprise
  C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
  City Island, NY 
  Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log


  On Mar 7, 2014, at 11:20 AM, Persuasion  wrote:


Edd


Mine has been jammed up for at least 4 years.  Always say I should find a 
travel lift and RR&R the centre board.  Just doesn't seem to be worth the 
aggregation.


Don't miss it, but I would never glass it over.  Way back when I was 
looking for a boat there was a C&C 37 K/CB for sale around Annapolis that the 
owner applied torpedoes to the keel and removed the CB.  My broker really want 
me to look at it to satisfy his curiosity but I didn't.





-- Forwarded message --
From: Edd Schillay 
Date: Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 10:26 AM
Subject: Re: Stus-List Now Boat Names
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com



Dwight,


Initially, I was very enthusiastic about owning a keel/centerboard model — 
better pointing upwind, less drag downwind. The process of lowering and raising 
the board is quiet and it’s great to have some control over how much you can 
have down there depending on wind strength — Then, I joined this list and heard 
some horror stories about the cable breaking and the board doing (uninsured) 
damage to the keel. 


So each year, I have my bottom cleaners lower the board and check the 
cable. So far, each year (8 years running), they have said it was fine, but I 
dread the day where I have to replace the cable ($$$). 


Now that I’m transitioning to a more cruising-oriented sailing lifestyle, I 
have been playing with the idea of just glassing it over, forcing it to always 
remain in the up position and never having to inspect or maintain the cable 
again. 




All the best,


Edd




Edd M. Schillay
Starship Enterprise
C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
City Island, NY 
Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log


On Mar 7, 2014, at 10:13 AM, dwight  wrote:


  Thanks Edd

  I agree the new cushions will be a nice upgrade to an already beautiful 
yacht and you chose really good material. And thanks on the spelling of Q’s 
name; most powerful guy on any Star Trek episode I think.

  Would Dave mind if you called him Spock just while on the boat, that 
would sort of fit with your theme.

  Are you pleased with keel centerboard, never had one so I don’t know much 
about how they sail, only what I read here sometimes.  Is the drop part noisy 
with movement when down and under sail?

  Cheers
  Dwight


--

  From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Edd 
Schillay
  Sent: March 7, 2014 10:55 AM
  To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
  Subject: Re: Stus-List Now Boat Names

  Dwight,

  Thanks. It’s a Keel/Centerboard model. As for exterior 
labeling, I figure if you’re going to name a boat Starship Enterprise, you 
might as well go all-out with the graphics. As several on the list will 
confirm, the back of the boat says:

  ENTERPRISE
  - NCC-1701-B - 
  NEW YORK, NEW YORK
  PLANET EARTH
  ALPHA QUADRANT

  As for the interior cushions — say good bye. We FINALLY got 
rid of the “Golden Girls” floral print design and now have a soft light brown 
microfiber - Will take some pics once they are installed. 

  As for the race crew, we have our own crew dynamics and the 
roles have evolved on their own. My First Officer is my foredeck guy and crew 
boss, Dave. 

  However, usually running my mainsail is my friend Kurt who I 
have known since third grade. Kurt is a computer programmer for Morgan Stanley 
and, amazingly enough, can calculate Time on Time standings in his head while 
on the course at any given time. And, while we do always call him by his name 
Kurt, he is often referred to by others, going as far back to age 8, as my 
“Spock”.

  PS - His/Her/Their name is “Q”, not “Cue” 



  All the best,

  Edd


  Edd M. Schillay
  Star

Re: Stus-List FW: Now Boat Names

[Edd Schillay]

Bill,

My yard doesn’t have a well and there’s no place to bring the boat on 
land in my yard where I can dig a hole. I’d have to bring the boat to 
Consolidated (a commercial yard) and have them do it — short haul, commercial 
labor — $$

Another thought is that the boat might actually have better speed with 
it glassed over. I always wonder about the water resistance with the flow going 
into and out of the slot. 


All the best,

Edd


Edd M. Schillay
Starship Enterprise
C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
City Island, NY 
Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log

On Mar 7, 2014, at 11:32 AM, Bill Coleman  wrote:

> Couldn’t you drop the board in the well and bring it right to the edge? Last 
> boat of the day.  Or, if you don’t like that, bring it off the pavement and 
> dig a hole?  That is how I got my rudder out!
>  
> Bill Coleman
> C&C 39
>  
> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Edd 
> Schillay
> Sent: Friday, March 07, 2014 11:22 AM
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Now Boat Names
>  
> Bill,
>  
> Where the Enterprise is now, the travelift is never 10 feet above 
> dry land, and, as Joel mentioned, it’s hard to find a place with a lift that 
> far off the ground. In order the replace the cable, the board must be 
> completely down. 
>  
> A short haul in my area would be several hundred dollars alone. 
> materials an labor would probably be another hundred or so.
>  
> I bet I can get it glassed over for $100 right where she is. 
>  
> 
> All the best,
>  
> Edd
>  
>  
> Edd M. Schillay
> Starship Enterprise
> C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
> City Island, NY 
> Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log
>  
> On Mar 7, 2014, at 11:14 AM, Bill Coleman  wrote:
>  
> 
> This  kind of reminds me of the old English tale of the axe stuck in the 
> ceiling and everyone crying  about what would happen if it fell out and 
> killed her future husband. Till a man suitor came along and pulled the axe 
> out of the ceiling.
> Why not be proactive and just replace it? If you prepare everything 
> beforehand you can just do it when you are going in in the spring  or coming 
> out in the fall.  You already know it will last 8 years, and every year that 
> passes you will be worrying even more – when you take out the old one you can 
> check the condition and determine if you can wait till, say Stardate 11242.5
>  
> Bill Coleman
> C&C 39 
>  
> Joel,
>  
> You’re right. The cable itself would not be a major expense. 
>  
> The hauling the boat 10 feet in the air, perhaps as an emergency 
> short-haul, and doing the repairs while in a travel lift, dismantling what’s 
> there, snaking a new wire through and everything else gets expensive. And if 
> it breaks on its own, I’m looking a major out-of-pocket keel repair. 
>  
> I’m not so sure about the resale value part. A shoal-draft keel 
> has its advantages, especially for cruising. And, a next owner would not need 
> to continually inspect and possibly repair the cable.
>  
> Upwind performance is the biggie. But, in less than 10, I find 
> the boat runs slower VMG than with the board up. And in Western LI Sound, we 
> don’t get above 10 all that often. As I said — playing with the idea. 
>  
> 
> All the best,
>  
> Edd
>  
>  
>  
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[Stu]

Thanx for all the suggestions – I guess I’ve got my work cut out for me over 
the next few days.

I’m not in favour of using phone numbers (even if disguised) – there are too 
many hackers out there trying to steal you identity and cell phones are very 
vulnerable.  Email addresses are not as bad.

Andrew – will be back home end of March – still trying to soak up Florida 
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Re: Stus-List Fwd: Now Boat Names

[Edd Schillay]

Gary,

Interesting — How would you bolt through it without affecting the 
hydrodynamics of the keel shape? And what kind of cover? 

I figure the next owner could always cut the glass open and restore the 
slot if he/she wants. No?


All the best,

Edd


Edd M. Schillay
Starship Enterprise
C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
City Island, NY 
Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log

On Mar 7, 2014, at 11:39 AM, Gary Nylander  wrote:

> If you are sailing almost all the time with the board up, why not just put a 
> bolt through it and leave it where it is? When, (and if) you decide to sell, 
> the next buyer can make his/her mind up about using it. You could even 
> fashion a cover for the slot and improve your performance by getting rid of 
> the turbulence. I would hesitate to stick the board up in a permanent fashion.
>  
> Gary (another shallow water sailor)
> - 
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[Gary Nylander]

Right now, you have a slot which is a bit wider than the board which creates 
some drag. Most of the keels I've seen are rather flat on the bottom, so you 
could build a cover out of aluminum or copper and form it to fit over the hole. 
Then fasten it with flat head screws. If you made it strong (thick) enough, you 
wouldn't have to use a bolt.. I would put some butyl between the cover and the 
keel, to keep the stale water out.

For the bolt if you decide to go that way, (I'm assuming the keel is somewhat 
'fat' like the ones I've seen around here) you could use a carriage bolt or a 
flat head bolt where the head wouldn't be protruding very much and countersink 
the nut on the other side. A little putty would cover the nut and it should be 
better than the slot you have now. 

Removing the cover would be easier for the next owner than cutting away the 
glass.

Our workboat guys around here put copper covers over everything - about 1/16 of 
an inch thick - it won't produce much drag. They use copper nails as well, but 
I would use screws.

Just an idea.

Gary
  - Original Message - 
  From: Edd Schillay 
  To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
  Sent: Friday, March 07, 2014 11:42 AM
  Subject: Re: Stus-List Fwd: Now Boat Names


  Gary,


  Interesting — How would you bolt through it without affecting the 
hydrodynamics of the keel shape? And what kind of cover? 


  I figure the next owner could always cut the glass open and restore the slot 
if he/she wants. No?




  All the best,


  Edd




  Edd M. Schillay
  Starship Enterprise
  C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
  City Island, NY 
  Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log


  On Mar 7, 2014, at 11:39 AM, Gary Nylander  wrote:


If you are sailing almost all the time with the board up, why not just put 
a bolt through it and leave it where it is? When, (and if) you decide to sell, 
the next buyer can make his/her mind up about using it. You could even fashion 
a cover for the slot and improve your performance by getting rid of the 
turbulence. I would hesitate to stick the board up in a permanent fashion.

Gary (another shallow water sailor)
  - 


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Re: Stus-List Now Boat Names

[Paul Fountain]

Edd,

 

Perception has a keel/centreboard also, and at the end of the 2012 season a
crew error dropped the board and broke the cable - no other damage - I had
Rob MacLachlan of South Shore yachts do the replacement at the beginning of
the 2013 season  the previous cable was a replacement also - and not
done well so was a bear to remove  the new one a better arrangement and
was quick to install - $500 parts & labour for the re & re - $200 to hang in
the slings for 2-3 hours during launch season - the yard was great and
picked me up at the end of the day so I didn't interfere with the launch -
just kept the staff from going home early .. it was a cold wet day ..

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Edd
Schillay
Sent: March 7, 2014 10:27 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Now Boat Names

 

Dwight,

 

Initially, I was very enthusiastic about owning a
keel/centerboard model - better pointing upwind, less drag downwind. The
process of lowering and raising the board is quiet and it's great to have
some control over how much you can have down there depending on wind
strength - Then, I joined this list and heard some horror stories about the
cable breaking and the board doing (uninsured) damage to the keel. 

 

So each year, I have my bottom cleaners lower the board and
check the cable. So far, each year (8 years running), they have said it was
fine, but I dread the day where I have to replace the cable ($$$). 

 

Now that I'm transitioning to a more cruising-oriented sailing
lifestyle, I have been playing with the idea of just glassing it over,
forcing it to always remain in the up position and never having to inspect
or maintain the cable again. 

 

All the best,

 

Edd

 

 

Edd M. Schillay

Starship Enterprise

C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B

City Island, NY 

Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log
 

 

On Mar 7, 2014, at 10:13 AM, dwight  wrote:





Thanks Edd

 

I agree the new cushions will be a nice upgrade to an already beautiful
yacht and you chose really good material. And thanks on the spelling of Q's
name; most powerful guy on any Star Trek episode I think.

 

Would Dave mind if you called him Spock just while on the boat, that would
sort of fit with your theme.

 

Are you pleased with keel centerboard, never had one so I don't know much
about how they sail, only what I read here sometimes.  Is the drop part
noisy with movement when down and under sail?

 

Cheers

Dwight

 

  _  

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Edd
Schillay
Sent: March 7, 2014 10:55 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Now Boat Names

 

Dwight,

 

Thanks. It's a Keel/Centerboard model. As for exterior labeling,
I figure if you're going to name a boat Starship Enterprise, you might as
well go all-out with the graphics. As several on the list will confirm, the
back of the boat says:

 

ENTERPRISE

- NCC-1701-B - 

NEW YORK, NEW YORK

PLANET EARTH

ALPHA QUADRANT

 

As for the interior cushions - say good bye. We FINALLY got rid
of the "Golden Girls" floral print design and now have a soft light brown
microfiber - Will take some pics once they are installed. 

 

As for the race crew, we have our own crew dynamics and the
roles have evolved on their own. My First Officer is my foredeck guy and
crew boss, Dave. 

 

However, usually running my mainsail is my friend Kurt who I
have known since third grade. Kurt is a computer programmer for Morgan
Stanley and, amazingly enough, can calculate Time on Time standings in his
head while on the course at any given time. And, while we do always call him
by his name Kurt, he is often referred to by others, going as far back to
age 8, as my "Spock".

 

PS - His/Her/Their name is "Q", not "Cue" 

 

 

All the best,

 

Edd

 

 

Edd M. Schillay

Starship Enterprise

C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B

City Island, NY 

Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log
 

 

 

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Re: Stus-List British and other sports cars (now Liquid electric tape)

[David Knecht]

Related to this dipping of ends- I got a new mainsheet last summer out of VPC and the non-spiced non-wipped end is fraying badly.  I found I could not melt it as I was accustomed to doing to seal the end.  What is the best way to deal with this?  DaveOn Mar 7, 2014, at 11:04 AM, Marek Dziedzic  wrote:



If it is sold for $7 at Lowes in the US, it 
would be sold for about $14 in Canada, so Binnacle (and Star Brite) are not 
overcharging that much.
 
Marek (in Ottawa)
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Re: Stus-List British and other sports cars (now Liquid electric tape)

[sam . c . salter]

Wipping?  sam :-)C&C 26 Liquorice Ghost Lake Alberta  From: David KnechtSent: Friday, March 7, 2014 10:38 AMTo: CnC CnC discussion listReply To: cnc-list@cnc-list.comSubject: Re: Stus-List British and other sports cars (now Liquid electric tape)Related to this dipping of ends- I got a new mainsheet last summer out of VPC and the non-spiced non-wipped end is fraying badly.  I found I could not melt it as I was accustomed to doing to seal the end.  What is the best way to deal with this?  DaveOn Mar 7, 2014, at 11:04 AM, Marek Dziedzic  wrote:



If it is sold for $7 at Lowes in the US, it 
would be sold for about $14 in Canada, so Binnacle (and Star Brite) are not 
overcharging that much.
 
Marek (in Ottawa)
-

David KnechtAries1990 C&C 34+New London, CT

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Re: Stus-List British and other sports cars (now Liquid electric tape)

[Rich Knowles]

Whip or dip it. 

Rich

> On Mar 7, 2014, at 13:37, David Knecht  wrote:
> 
> Related to this dipping of ends- I got a new mainsheet last summer out of VPC 
> and the non-spiced non-wipped end is fraying badly.  I found I could not melt 
> it as I was accustomed to doing to seal the end.  What is the best way to 
> deal with this?  Dave
> 
>> On Mar 7, 2014, at 11:04 AM, Marek Dziedzic  wrote:
>> 
>> If it is sold for $7 at Lowes in the US, it would be sold for about $14 in 
>> Canada, so Binnacle (and Star Brite) are not overcharging that much.
>>  
>> Marek (in Ottawa)
>> -
> 
> 
> 
> David Knecht
> Aries
> 1990 C&C 34+
> New London, CT
> 
> 
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Re: Stus-List Navigation Software

[Ronald B. Frerker]

I'm sure Dwight only wanted to know for educational purposes; not to actually 
do it!
Ron
Wild Cheri
C&C 30
STL
Weather jumped to 59 here today; starting to see ground.




 From: Stevan Plavsa 
To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com"  
Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2014 4:12 PM
Subject: Re: Stus-List Navigation Software
 


I think Joel works in the legal profession :) 
if I'm not mistaken.

Up here in Canada we're a little more lax about that stuff. Fair use, if you 
own a copy you can copy it for personal use ... that's my understanding with 
music anyway though I could be totally wrong. It happens :)

Steve
One Love, C&C 32
Toronto






On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 4:57 PM, dwight  wrote:

   
>Hey Joel, lighten up
> 
>The reply from Rich begged the question…seems
he probably does not know the answer anyway…probably you never copied a
cd or if you’re old enough maybe you never made a cassette recording from
a vinyl…seriously, probably not as many lily whites on this planet as you
may think, or for that matter on this forum either?
> 
>
>
> 
>From:CnC-List
[mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On
Behalf Of Joel Aronson
>Sent: February 20, 2014 4:53 PM
>
>To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>Subject: Re: Stus-List Navigation
Software 
> 
>Seriously?  in an
on-line forum?
> 
>On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at
3:42 PM, dwight 
wrote:
>Any illegal way
> 
>
>
> 
>From:CnC-List
[mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Rich Knowles
>Sent: February 20, 2014 4:22 PM
>To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>Subject: Re: Stus-List Navigation
Software
> 
>It should work as far as I know. No way to legally copy it. 
>
>Rich
>
>On Feb 20, 2014, at 15:16, "dwight" 
wrote:
>Rich
>> 
>>Do you know if the
C-Map NT card I use in my CP190c will work in the CP190i?
>> 
>>If it does work, do you
know of any way that I could make a copy of the card I already have?  I
would like to have both units up and going at the same time but I would prefer
not to have to by a new C-Map card
>> 
>> 
>>
>>
>> 
>>From:CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Rich Knowles
>>Sent: February 20, 2014 12:55 PM
>>To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>>Subject: Re: Stus-List Navigation
Software
>> 
>>Here's the info on the SH 190i. 
>> 
>>The unit is available with or without a base map and
both versions accept c-map cards. 
>> 
>>The base map gives detailed depths up to around 30'.
In deeper water there are no depths shown on the screen. If you want more
detailed information about ports, deeper depths and marks etc. , you will need
an appropriate c-map cartridge of the area you need up to a card for all of 
North America and environs. Prices vary
accordingly. 
>> 
>>The Binnacle typically does not advertise electronics
on their US website as selling cross-border can be a hassle for all parties. 
Prices and
details are on the Canadian web site. Hope this clears up the mystery. 
>> 
>>Regardless where you buy it, the CP190i is a great
plotter. 
>>
>>Rich
>>


 
 
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Re: Stus-List Now Boat Names

[Wally Bryant]

Funny - I just started to keep a list of good boat names that I think 
up, since this thread comes up every now and then and I can't ever 
remember what was so funny.


The absolute worst boat name I saw was "Bob's Big Bitch Magnet" with a 
sticker of a naked lady.  Obviously, it was a poorly maintained power 
boat that never left the dock.  And if he did leave the dock, it's a 
safe bet he never used the radio.


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Re: Stus-List Now Boat Names

[dwight]

Edd

 

As a starship Captain I think you should be able to do better than that.that
is a starship after all, what are the yard managers thinking???

 

  _  

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Edd
Schillay
Sent: March 7, 2014 12:22 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Now Boat Names

 

Bill,

 

Where the Enterprise is now, the travelift is never 10 feet
above dry land, and, as Joel mentioned, it's hard to find a place with a
lift that far off the ground. In order the replace the cable, the board must
be completely down. 

 

A short haul in my area would be several hundred dollars alone.
materials an labor would probably be another hundred or so.

 

I bet I can get it glassed over for $100 right where she is. 

 

All the best,

 

Edd

 

 

Edd M. Schillay

Starship Enterprise

C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B

City Island, NY 

Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log
 

 

On Mar 7, 2014, at 11:14 AM, Bill Coleman  wrote:





This  kind of reminds me of the old English tale of the axe stuck in the
ceiling and everyone crying  about what would happen if it fell out and
killed her future husband. Till a man suitor came along and pulled the axe
out of the ceiling.

Why not be proactive and just replace it? If you prepare everything
beforehand you can just do it when you are going in in the spring  or coming
out in the fall.  You already know it will last 8 years, and every year that
passes you will be worrying even more - when you take out the old one you
can check the condition and determine if you can wait till, say Stardate
11242.5

 

Bill Coleman

C&C 39 

 

From: CnC-List [ 
mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Edd Schillay
Sent: Friday, March 07, 2014 10:44 AM
To:   cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Now Boat Names

 

Joel,

 

You're right. The cable itself would not be a major expense. 

 

The hauling the boat 10 feet in the air, perhaps as an emergency
short-haul, and doing the repairs while in a travel lift, dismantling what's
there, snaking a new wire through and everything else gets expensive. And if
it breaks on its own, I'm looking a major out-of-pocket keel repair. 

 

I'm not so sure about the resale value part. A shoal-draft keel
has its advantages, especially for cruising. And, a next owner would not
need to continually inspect and possibly repair the cable.

 

Upwind performance is the biggie. But, in less than 10, I find
the boat runs slower VMG than with the board up. And in Western LI Sound, we
don't get above 10 all that often. As I said - playing with the idea. 

 

All the best,

 

Edd

 

 

Edd M. Schillay

Starship Enterprise

C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B

City Island, NY 

  Starship Enterprise's
Captain's Log

 

 

On Mar 7, 2014, at 10:34 AM, Joel Aronson < 
joel.aron...@gmail.com> wrote:






Edd,

 

I wouldn't think the cable (or Dyneema) would be a major expense.   You
would hurt the resale value and upwind performance if you glassed it over.

 

Joel

 

On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 10:26 AM, Edd Schillay < 
e...@schillay.com> wrote:




Dwight,

 

Initially, I was very enthusiastic about owning a keel/centerboard model -
better pointing upwind, less drag downwind. The process of lowering and
raising the board is quiet and it's great to have some control over how much
you can have down there depending on wind strength - Then, I joined this
list and heard some horror stories about the cable breaking and the board
doing (uninsured) damage to the keel. 

 

So each year, I have my bottom cleaners lower the board and check the cable.
So far, each year (8 years running), they have said it was fine, but I dread
the day where I have to replace the cable ($$$). 

 

Now that I'm transitioning to a more cruising-oriented sailing lifestyle, I
have been playing with the idea of just glassing it over, forcing it to
always remain in the up position and never having to inspect or maintain the
cable again. 

 

 

All the best,

 

Edd

 

 

Edd M. Schillay

Starship Enterprise

C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B

City Island, NY 

  Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log

 

 

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Re: Stus-List British and other sports cars (now Liquid electrictape)

[dwight]

Waxed whipping twine.its easy

 

  _  

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of David
Knecht
Sent: March 7, 2014 1:38 PM
To: CnC CnC discussion list
Subject: Re: Stus-List British and other sports cars (now Liquid
electrictape)

 

Related to this dipping of ends- I got a new mainsheet last summer out of
VPC and the non-spiced non-wipped end is fraying badly.  I found I could not
melt it as I was accustomed to doing to seal the end.  What is the best way
to deal with this?  Dave

 

On Mar 7, 2014, at 11:04 AM, Marek Dziedzic  wrote:





If it is sold for $7 at Lowes in the US, it would be sold for about $14 in
Canada, so Binnacle (and Star Brite) are not overcharging that much.

 

Marek (in Ottawa)

-

 

 

David Knecht

Aries

1990 C&C 34+

New London, CT




 

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Re: Stus-List Now Boat Names

[Wally Bryant]

Key Point.  I still remember a boat called "Pay Day."



Patrick H. Wesley wrote:

If you are thinking about choosing/changing a boat name, apply this test:
how well will it work in a VHF radio call?



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Re: Stus-List Now Boat Names

[Wally Bryant]

And, of course, I wonder how a subject of New Boat Names turned into a 
thread on Keel/Centerboard repair.  Stu, you're asleep at the wheel.  


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Re: Stus-List Now Boat Names

[D Harben]

Sea Section



> On Mar 7, 2014, at 5:09 PM, Wally Bryant  wrote:
> 
> Key Point.  I still remember a boat called "Pay Day."
> 
> 
> 
> Patrick H. Wesley wrote:
>> If you are thinking about choosing/changing a boat name, apply this test:
>> how well will it work in a VHF radio call?
> 
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Re: Stus-List Now Boat Names

[dwight]

Wally

Maybe I did that when I read Edd's write up on Starship Enterprise and asked
a few questions about Starship Enterprise's  keel / centerboard arrangement
without changing subject lines...so now I am in jail and prohibited from
further communication on this list...so long until I get a pardon...somehow
new boat names went to Star Trek stuff...it's been a long winter for some
north of where you are 

-Original Message-
From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Wally
Bryant
Sent: March 7, 2014 6:14 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Now Boat Names

And, of course, I wonder how a subject of New Boat Names turned into a 
thread on Keel/Centerboard repair.  Stu, you're asleep at the wheel.  

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Re: Stus-List Now Boat Names

[Bill Coleman]

I had to say that fast several times  to get it!

Bill Coleman
C&C 39 


-Original Message-
From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Wally
Bryant
Sent: Friday, March 07, 2014 5:10 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Now Boat Names

Key Point.  I still remember a boat called "Pay Day."



Patrick H. Wesley wrote:
> If you are thinking about choosing/changing a boat name, apply this test:
> how well will it work in a VHF radio call?


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Re: Stus-List Now Boat Names

[Wally Bryant]

two lashes with a stingray tail. 

Actually, I was bottom fishing in one spot and kept catching these 
two/three foot wide sting rays.  The little four incher ones can mess 
you up if you step on them, but the big ones can really kill you.  I was 
in the dink, so it wasn't just about protecting myself, I also needed to 
protect the dink.  Leather gloves are really handy, and cheap.  Yeah, I 
know, cut the line, but I'm not rich and I was fishing with a lure that 
cost more than a tuna.


After the third sting ray, I moved to another spot, and caught a nice 
snapper and called it a dinner.


Wal


dwight wrote:

Wally

Maybe I did that when I read Edd's write up on Starship Enterprise and asked
a few questions about Starship Enterprise's  keel / centerboard arrangement
without changing subject lines...so now I am in jail and prohibited from
further communication on this list...so long until I get a pardon...somehow
new boat names went to Star Trek stuff...it's been a long winter for some
north of where you are



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Stus-List Now: Worst Boat Names

[bobmor99 .]

I couldn't figure out in Gmail how to change the Subject line on an actual
thread so I'm pretending.
How about:
Sailbad the Sinner  (on of those on the dock), (4680 hits on google).
And, the all-time perennial clever one, Liquid Assets.

Bob M
Ox (gotta love it)
33-1, Jax, FL
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Stus-List Glassing over centerboard

[Nonpareil Racing]

Why not drill a hole thru hull and centerboard and pin it in the up position 
and forget about it?  This method also is a good safety idea too in case of 
emergency. 

Tom Anderson
C&C 32 Nonpareil 
Marblehead, MA

Currently in Water Lemon Cay, USVI

Message: 3
Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2014 11:42:55 -0500
From: Edd Schillay 
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Fwd:  Now Boat Names
Message-ID: <30383a6e-3be4-403c-b863-1878f809c...@schillay.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"

Gary,

   Interesting ? How would you bolt through it without affecting the 
hydrodynamics of the keel shape? And what kind of cover?

   I figure the next owner could always cut the glass open and restore the slot 
if he/she wants. No?


   All the best,

   Edd

Tom _/)

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> Gary,
> 
>Interesting ? How would you bolt through it without affecting the 
> hydrodynamics of the keel shape? And what kind of cover? 
> 
>I figure the next owner could always cut the glass open and restore the 
> slot if he/she wants. No?
> 
> 
>All the best,
> 
>Edd
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Re: Stus-List Exhaust Riser Replacement

[bobmor99 .]

Brief update:
Mechanic friend removed the carb and cleaned out lots of gaboo. Started
right up after that.
Water and crud must have somehow backed up through the exhaust manifold
into the carb while the exhaust riser was failing and there wasn't enough
pressure to keep everything (exhaust and cooling water) moving aft
Life is good. Long live the A4

Bob M
Ox 33-1
Jax, FL



On Sun, Mar 2, 2014 at 9:08 PM, bobmor99 .  wrote:

> Hey Ken,
> Thanks for the interest in a Moyer-esque problem. No water in the oil.
> Been there, seen that ~4 year's ago.
> Plugs #1 and #2 (the lower two) had  a disconcerting waterish-soot in
> their gaps. After draining the carb (lots of crud) and retrying to start,
> those spark plug tips had a slight smell of gas. I'm guessing lean.
> My current theory is that the carb jets are now plugged. I've hired a dock
> neighbor, who fixes foreign (mainly German and British) cars and has a boat
> with an A4.
> Cheers,
> Bob M
> Ox, 33-1
> Jax, FL
>
>
>
> On Sun, Mar 2, 2014 at 8:43 PM, Ken Heaton  wrote:
>
>> Any water in the oil?  How do the spark plugs look?
>>
>> Ken H.
>>
>>
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Re: Stus-List Now: Worst Boat Names

[Rick Taillieu]

A number of years ago I saw a Mirage 24 called "Breaking Wind".

 

Rick Taillieu

Nemesis

'75 C&C 25  #371

Shearwater Yacht Club

Halifax, NS.

 

 

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of bobmor99
.
Sent: March-07-14 19:18
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Stus-List Now: Worst Boat Names

 

I couldn't figure out in Gmail how to change the Subject line on an actual
thread so I'm pretending.

How about:

Sailbad the Sinner  (on of those on the dock), (4680 hits on google).

And, the all-time perennial clever one, Liquid Assets.

 

Bob M

Ox (gotta love it)

33-1, Jax, FL

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Re: Stus-List Owners Database

[schiller]

Stu,

I have Access on my laptop.  If I can help by setting up an Access 
Database, please let me know.  I owe so much to the list.


Neil Schiller
1970 Redwing 35, Hull #7
(C&C 35, Mark I)
"Corsair" (formerly "Red Pepper")
South Haven, MI

On 3/7/2014 11:41 AM, Stu wrote:
Thanx for all the suggestions -- I guess I've got my work cut out for 
me over the next few days.
I'm not in favour of using phone numbers (even if disguised) -- there 
are too many hackers out there trying to steal you identity and cell 
phones are very vulnerable. Email addresses are not as bad.
Andrew -- will be back home end of March -- still trying to soak up 
Florida sunshine before the trek back to the frozen north.

Stu


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Re: Stus-List Now: Worst Boat Names - edit subject gmail

[Dennis C.]

Hit reply then look for the small down arrow just left of the subject.
Click it and select edit subject.

Dennis C.


On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 5:17 PM, bobmor99 .  wrote:

> I couldn't figure out in Gmail how to change the Subject line on an actual
> thread so I'm pretending.
> How about:
> Sailbad the Sinner  (on of those on the dock), (4680 hits on google).
> And, the all-time perennial clever one, Liquid Assets.
>
> Bob M
> Ox (gotta love it)
> 33-1, Jax, FL
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Re: Stus-List Owners Database

[bobmor99 .]

Stu,
This will be nice. Thank you.
Entire hull number to enlighten those periodic hull number discussions.
Bob M
Ox 33-1
Jax. FL



On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 9:16 PM, Stu  wrote:

>   Since we lost our popular owners' database a while ago, I have been
> trying to rework it and put it back online.  I am not sure if the Google
> maps will be included this time, but I will certainly try.
>
> Here are some of the fields I am thinking of including:
> Boat length - ie: 27 foot, 39 foot, etc.
> Model or MK - ie: R, +, XL, MK1, MK2, etc.
> Year
> Engine - ie: Atomic 4, etc.
> Boat Name
> Previous Name(s)
> Owner(s)
> Home Port (city, town, etc)
> Province/State/Country
> Yacht Club
> Contact Email (will not be displayed, distributed or sold)
> Long/Lat (if we get the maps working)
>
> Any other suggestions?
>
> Stu
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Stus-List Thanks Dennis :-)

[bobmor99 .]

On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 6:56 PM, Dennis C.  wrote:

> Hit reply then look for the small down arrow just left of the subject.
> Click it and select edit subject.
>
> Dennis C.
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 5:17 PM, bobmor99 .  wrote:
>
>> I couldn't figure out in Gmail how to change the Subject line on an
>> actual thread so I'm pretending.
>> How about:
>> Sailbad the Sinner  (on of those on the dock), (4680 hits on google).
>> And, the all-time perennial clever one, Liquid Assets.
>>
>> Bob M
>> Ox (gotta love it)
>> 33-1, Jax, FL
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Re: Stus-List Open House--Now boat names

[bobmor99 .]

All the way over from Portland?


On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 9:21 PM, Tim Goodyear  wrote:

> We raced against a boat called Sparkle Pony in Boston...
>
> On Mar 5, 2014, at 9:15 PM, Jerome Tauber  wrote:
>
> Ramar of the Jungle.   At least it wasn't named Kimosabe.   Jerry
>
>  -Original Message-
> From: Andrew Burton 
> To: cnc-list 
> Sent: Wed, Mar 5, 2014 9:08 pm
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Open House--Now boat names
>
>   I once delivered a boat called "Bwana". That got some interesting
> reactions.
>
>  Peregrine is so named because my father named his C&C 27 Peregrine. That
> boat holds many wonderful memories of growing up cruising the Canadian
> Southwest every school holiday. I couldn't think of a better way to honor
> my father than keeping the name in the family. Peregrine also comes from
> the Latin "wanderer" How appropriate for a cruising boat.
>
>  Andy
>  C&C 40
>  Peregrine
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 8:51 PM, Jack Brennan wrote:
>
>>   My current boat, when I bought it, was named Gringo. That's throwing
>> down the gauntlet in an area such as South Florida, which has a large
>> Hispanic population.
>>
>> After getting a couple of odd reactions from bridgetenders on the way
>> home after buying it, I quickly changed the name.
>>
>> Jack Brennan
>> Former C&C 25
>> Shanachie, 1974 Bristol 30
>> Tierra Verde, Fl.
>>
>>
>>
>>  *From:* Bill Bina 
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 05, 2014 8:11 PM
>>  *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Open House--Now boat names
>>
>>   I used to have an old aluminum Jon boat I used for bass fishing,
>> named, "Row vs. Wade"
>>
>> Bill Bina
>>
>> On 3/5/2014 5:50 PM, dwight wrote:
>>
>>  There is one around here called Freudian Sloop, has to have a
>> psychology or psychiatric connection
>>
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Re: Stus-List Now Boat Names

[Rick Brass]

More likely asleep in the sun. He is in Florida, after all.

-Original Message-
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Bryant
Sent: Friday, March 07, 2014 5:14 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Now Boat Names

And, of course, I wonder how a subject of New Boat Names turned into a
thread on Keel/Centerboard repair.  Stu, you're asleep at the wheel.  

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Stus-List owners database

[Jimmy Kelly]

one consideration could be marketing length  ex. cnc30  ..along with
overall length...many cnc models  like 27s  varied from 26.8ft to27 .9ft i
believe  in case of cnc 38s  were less than 38ft..redline 41was 41ft .7 on
deck only fit in 43 ft slip because of reverse transom  &that does not
include bowpulpit overhang...newport 41s are 40ft.just a thought...
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[Jimmy Kelly]

sail number could be helpful &hull color
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Re: Stus-List Now: Worst Boat Names

[Rick Brass]

Wiley Price, who used to own the cradle manufacturer JOWI, once had a racing
boat called "Blow Job". I'm told the name on the dinghy was "Hand Job".

 

Story goes that one year, while towing the boat back from Key West Race
Week, the Georgia State Police pulled him over to have a discussion about
his boat name.

 

Rick Brass

 

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Taillieu
Sent: Friday, March 07, 2014 6:42 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Now: Worst Boat Names

 

A number of years ago I saw a Mirage 24 called "Breaking Wind".

 

Rick Taillieu

Nemesis

'75 C&C 25  #371

Shearwater Yacht Club

Halifax, NS.

 

 

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of bobmor99
.
Sent: March-07-14 19:18
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Stus-List Now: Worst Boat Names

 

I couldn't figure out in Gmail how to change the Subject line on an actual
thread so I'm pretending.

How about:

Sailbad the Sinner  (on of those on the dock), (4680 hits on google).

And, the all-time perennial clever one, Liquid Assets.

 

Bob M

Ox (gotta love it)

33-1, Jax, FL

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Re: Stus-List Exhaust Riser Replacement

[Michael Brown]

Dirty carb?

Water backing up through the exhaust, through the motor, then through the
intake system into the carb is pretty unlikely. I mention this since if the 
actual
source of the contamination is something else you could have the problem
again.

Do you have a mechanical fuel pump? If so there is a metal cup on the stern
side of it, held in by a bail. Place a coffee filter in a clean tin can, remove 
the
cup and dump the gas out into the can. Check the filter and the bottom of
the cup for debris. A few A4s I have checked were running "fine", but at
least half of the cup was full of sediment.

The mechanical fuel pump has a level, looks like a coat hanger bent around
the pump, that is a primer to get gas back into the carb after the lines have
been drained without cranking the engine.

My opinion, not shared by many, is that the inline fuel filters of the sort
sold for cars do not filter well. The opinion is based on wiping the cup out
with a clean cloth, then doing the same a year later.  The A4 is a very small
engine, 17 - 30 HP compared to 150 and up for a car. The tiny jet, infrequent
use and low intake vacuum on the A4 make it sensitive to the stuff that
would pass through a car.

The bulkhead mounted filter / water separators that have a oil filter sized
canister are good to remove particulate down to 10 microns. I like the type
that have a heavy shell, and the filter is inside. Some come with a drain at
the bottom, makes it easy to check for water. Get the drain plug that has
a slot / hole cut in it so the plug does not have to be removed to drain
the filter.

A lot of work for a couple of cans a gas a year ...


Michael Brown
Windburn
C&C 30-1


Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2014 18:40:33 -0500 
From: "bobmor99 ."  
To: kenhea...@gmail.com, cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Exhaust Riser Replacement 
Message-ID: 
      
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" 
 
Brief update: 
Mechanic friend removed the carb and cleaned out lots of gaboo. Started 
right up after that. 
Water and crud must have somehow backed up through the exhaust manifold 
into the carb while the exhaust riser was failing and there wasn't enough 
pressure to keep everything (exhaust and cooling water) moving aft 
Life is good. Long live the A4 
 
Bob M 
Ox 33-1 
Jax, FL 
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Stus-List Where's Stu

[Stu]

Stu, you're asleep at the wheel.

More likely asleep in the sun. He is in Florida, after all.

No, no, no --  if you sleep, you miss out on watching the bikini-bunnies, 
happy hour at the Tiki Bar with the C&C (cute and cuddly) hostess, BBQ'ed 
steak on the patio and finish off with a couple of Dark & Stormies around 
the campfire.


Reality sets in next weekend when we have to hit the road and move back to 
the frozen north they call Canada, eh.


Stu


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Stus-List Fw: Mailman privacy alert

[James DeFelice]

Stu,
Here is the original message.


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Re: Stus-List Where's Stu

[Wally Bryant]

Well, clearly I have no idea what's going on.  And I don't have a 
problem with that.


Wal

Stu wrote:
No, no, no --  if you sleep, you miss out on watching the 
bikini-bunnies, happy hour at the Tiki Bar with the C&C (cute and 
cuddly) hostess, BBQ'ed steak on the patio and finish off with a 
couple of Dark & Stormies around the campfire.


Reality sets in next weekend when we have to hit the road and move 
back to the frozen north they call Canada, eh.


Stu 


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Re: Stus-List Where's Stu

[dwight]

Me too

-Original Message-
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Bryant
Sent: March 7, 2014 9:25 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Where's Stu

Well, clearly I have no idea what's going on.  And I don't have a 
problem with that.

Wal

Stu wrote:
> No, no, no --  if you sleep, you miss out on watching the 
> bikini-bunnies, happy hour at the Tiki Bar with the C&C (cute and 
> cuddly) hostess, BBQ'ed steak on the patio and finish off with a 
> couple of Dark & Stormies around the campfire.
>
> Reality sets in next weekend when we have to hit the road and move 
> back to the frozen north they call Canada, eh.
>
> Stu 

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Re: Stus-List Exhaust Riser Replacement

[bobmor99 .]

Michael,
Thank you very much for the reply. I hope the rest of the list will indulge
in an A4 discussion.
Yes, there's a mechanical fuel pump.
The stainless sedimenter bowl was "squeaky clean", no crud. The transparent
(automotive) gas filter just in front of the sedimenter bowl was/is also
"squeaky clean". There is also a canister filter adjacent to the gas tank.
I have not had that apart.
I've been "pretty good" about using ethanol-free gas and the gas tank has
been full throughout the winter.
The failure to (re)start coincides with the exhaust riser failure which was
noticed at the dock while running the engine after an oil change.
Any elaboration of alternate theories is appreciated in advance.
Bob M
Ox 33-1
Jax, FL


On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 7:57 PM, Michael Brown  wrote:

> Dirty carb?
>
> Water backing up through the exhaust, through the motor, then through the
> intake system into the carb is pretty unlikely. I mention this since if
> the actual
> source of the contamination is something else you could have the problem
> again.
>
> Do you have a mechanical fuel pump? If so there is a metal cup on the stern
> side of it, held in by a bail. Place a coffee filter in a clean tin can,
> remove the
> cup and dump the gas out into the can. Check the filter and the bottom of
> the cup for debris. A few A4s I have checked were running "fine", but at
> least half of the cup was full of sediment.
>
> The mechanical fuel pump has a level, looks like a coat hanger bent around
> the pump, that is a primer to get gas back into the carb after the lines
> have
> been drained without cranking the engine.
>
> My opinion, not shared by many, is that the inline fuel filters of the sort
> sold for cars do not filter well. The opinion is based on wiping the cup
> out
> with a clean cloth, then doing the same a year later.  The A4 is a very
> small
> engine, 17 - 30 HP compared to 150 and up for a car. The tiny jet,
> infrequent
> use and low intake vacuum on the A4 make it sensitive to the stuff that
> would pass through a car.
>
> The bulkhead mounted filter / water separators that have a oil filter sized
> canister are good to remove particulate down to 10 microns. I like the type
> that have a heavy shell, and the filter is inside. Some come with a drain
> at
> the bottom, makes it easy to check for water. Get the drain plug that has
> a slot / hole cut in it so the plug does not have to be removed to drain
> the filter.
>
> A lot of work for a couple of cans a gas a year ...
>
>
> Michael Brown
> Windburn
> C&C 30-1
>
>
> Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2014 18:40:33 -0500
> From: "bobmor99 ." 
> To: kenhea...@gmail.com, cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Exhaust Riser Replacement
> Message-ID:
> 
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> Brief update:
> Mechanic friend removed the carb and cleaned out lots of gaboo. Started
> right up after that.
> Water and crud must have somehow backed up through the exhaust manifold
> into the carb while the exhaust riser was failing and there wasn't enough
> pressure to keep everything (exhaust and cooling water) moving aft
> Life is good. Long live the A4
>
> Bob M
> Ox 33-1
> Jax, FL
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Re: Stus-List Exhaust Riser Replacement - AT4 fuel issue???

[Dennis C.]

When I bought Touche' (with A4) there FIRST thing I did was to drop the
sediment bowl.  YUCK!!  Looked like coffee with globs of butter colored
clouds in it.  I had suspected before purchase that the engine had not run
in several years.  This confirmed my suspicion.

I pulled the fuel tank and replaced it (a thorough cleaning would also
work), placed a coffee can at one end of the fuel line and squirted a half
can of Gunk carb cleaner through it until the discharge looked clear,
rebuilt the carb, cleaned the sediment bowl and filled the tank with fresh
gas.  Took a while but it finally fired up and ran fine for years after.

When I was in the Navy in Japan.  I had a Kawasaki 500 MkIII (fastest
production motorcycle at the time.  Yeah, I was stoopid).  I had it shipped
back to the States after my service.  It was in transit for several
months.  Once I got it back, I made several unsuccessful attempts to start
it.  I drained all the fuel, replaced it with new gas and it fired right up.

Never, never underestimate the problems bad fuel can cause.

Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA


On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 6:57 PM, Michael Brown  wrote:

> Dirty carb?
>
> Water backing up through the exhaust, through the motor, then through the
> intake system into the carb is pretty unlikely. I mention this since if
> the actual
> source of the contamination is something else you could have the problem
> again.
>
> Do you have a mechanical fuel pump? If so there is a metal cup on the stern
> side of it, held in by a bail. Place a coffee filter in a clean tin can,
> remove the
> cup and dump the gas out into the can. Check the filter and the bottom of
> the cup for debris. A few A4s I have checked were running "fine", but at
> least half of the cup was full of sediment.
>
> The mechanical fuel pump has a level, looks like a coat hanger bent around
> the pump, that is a primer to get gas back into the carb after the lines
> have
> been drained without cranking the engine.
>
> My opinion, not shared by many, is that the inline fuel filters of the sort
> sold for cars do not filter well. The opinion is based on wiping the cup
> out
> with a clean cloth, then doing the same a year later.  The A4 is a very
> small
> engine, 17 - 30 HP compared to 150 and up for a car. The tiny jet,
> infrequent
> use and low intake vacuum on the A4 make it sensitive to the stuff that
> would pass through a car.
>
> The bulkhead mounted filter / water separators that have a oil filter sized
> canister are good to remove particulate down to 10 microns. I like the type
> that have a heavy shell, and the filter is inside. Some come with a drain
> at
> the bottom, makes it easy to check for water. Get the drain plug that has
> a slot / hole cut in it so the plug does not have to be removed to drain
> the filter.
>
> A lot of work for a couple of cans a gas a year ...
>
>
> Michael Brown
> Windburn
> C&C 30-1
>
>
> Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2014 18:40:33 -0500
> From: "bobmor99 ." 
> To: kenhea...@gmail.com, cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Exhaust Riser Replacement
> Message-ID:
> 
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> Brief update:
> Mechanic friend removed the carb and cleaned out lots of gaboo. Started
> right up after that.
> Water and crud must have somehow backed up through the exhaust manifold
> into the carb while the exhaust riser was failing and there wasn't enough
> pressure to keep everything (exhaust and cooling water) moving aft
> Life is good. Long live the A4
>
> Bob M
> Ox 33-1
> Jax, FL
>
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Re: Stus-List Now Boat Names

[Rick Brass]

When I bought her, my 38 was named Scarlet Fever. (the original name since
she was launched in 1976 in Lake St. Clair, as it turns out.) So obviously a
name change was in order.

 

My former girlfriend and I looked at a lot of potential names. I've always
thought "Emerald Flash" or "Green Flash" was a good name, since one of the
things on my bucket list is to actually see one from the deck of my own
boat. But if you call her "Green Flash" and race her, you'd better be darn
fast.

 

Another potential name was "Primal". The psychological term for an
experience which can only be understood from experience and not from
description as a "primal experience" - and sailing is certainly one of
these. If you can tell a non-sailor how you can get an adrenalin rush on a
sailboat traveling at something between walking and jogging speed, you're a
better man than I.

 

Anyway, we came up with a total of 27 potential names from astrology,
mythology, astronomy, quotations, etc. How to decide among them?

 

We had a lottery! We each picked our favorite 10 out of the 27. I think that
left 16 or 17 (maybe I should have known the relationship was never going to
last at that point?). Then a second cut to get down to 9. Those went into a
hat.. And out came Imzadi. (Which was my personal favorite. And my former
girlfriend hated it.

 

As Edd will know, "Imzadi" is Betazoid for "beloved", and the context is
that it is a term reserved for your first or greatest love. Will Ryker and
Dianna Troi of Next Generation have an historic relationship, and it is an
endearment they use on occasion in the series. And it is certainly a fitting
name for my boat, and for sailing.

 

I admit it. I'm an incurable romantic. My 25 is named "la Belle Aurore",
which most movie buffs will know is the bar where Rick and Ilsa say goodbye
in Paris, in the movie Casablanca.

 

 

Rick Brass

Imzadi -1976 C&C 38 mk1

la Belle Aurore -1975 C&C 25 mk1

Washington, NC

 

 

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Edd
Schillay
Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2014 10:28 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Stus-List Now Boat Names

 

As you may have guessed, my boat's name is based on a Lucille Ball / Desi
Arnez-produced 1960's failed train-wreck NBC television series . . .

 

. . . which led to highly-rated syndication, five spin-off television series
and 12 feature films, not to mention decades and decades of merchandising
dollars for Paramount/Viacom. 

 

For me, though, the Starship Enterprise was an "escape vehicle" - when I got
home from grade school in the 70s, I could leave all the pressures and
troubles behind, turn on WPIX channel 11, and I'll be exploring the final
frontier's strange new worlds, seeking out new life and new civilizations .
. .

 

 

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Re: Stus-List CnC-List Digest, Vol 98, Issue 27

[Tortuga]

> .A number of years ago I saw a Mirage 24 called "Breaking Wind".
>
> Not quite the same thing, but a few years ago I pulled up, at a light in
downtown Los Angeles, behind a woman driving a Mercedes convertible. The
rear plate read WAS HIS

Derek Kennedy
C&C 30 mk1 Tortuga
Ballantyne's Cove, NS
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Re: Stus-List Now Boat Names, Star Trek - crew personalities

[Rick Brass]

Cool personality profile test. My results say "prime Minister". And pretty
well describe how I see myself.

 

Rick Brass

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Dennis C.
Sent: Friday, March 07, 2014 8:13 AM
To: CnClist
Subject: Re: Stus-List Now Boat Names, Star Trek - crew personalities

 

Just as a note, Star Trek was one of the first shows to feature an
"ensemble" cast.  Much has been made of how each of the four central
characters, Kirk, Spock, Doc and Scotty, were positioned in the Myers Briggs
personality quadrant.  Googling "Myers Briggs Star Trek" yields some very
interesting articles on the perceived placement of each of character.
Further, you will discover more on the personality placement of characters
in Star Trek, The Next Generation and Star Wars.  Very interesting reads.

To keep this sailing related, as a boat skipper, you manage your crew.
During a race, crew dynamics can influence the performance of the boat.
Having insight into your crews personality types may help you, as a boat
manager, fuse your crew into a cohesive working unit.

Here's a fun way to find out who your crew really is.  Have each of them go
to the link below and take the test.  Next time you're in a relaxed crew
environment, ask them to disclose the results of the test.  Enjoy.

Scroll to the bottom and select the link for your language.  You can give a
fake name when asked.  

 

Dennis C.

Touche' 35-1 #83

Mandeville, LA

 

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Re: Stus-List Now Boat Names, Star Trek - crew personalities

[bobmor99 .]

Hey, me too - Dreamer Minstrel.
What is there besides Dreamer Minstrel and Black Knight?
Bob M
Ox 33-1
Jax, FL


On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 8:54 AM, Danny Haughey  wrote:

> I'm the
> The Dreamer Minstrel...  There i said it and I don't care who knows it!
> Funny thing is that this seems pretty accurate...  LOL
>
>
> -- Original Message --
> From: "Dennis C." 
> To: CnClist 
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Now Boat Names, Star Trek - crew personalities
> Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2014 07:12:47 -0600
>
> Just as a note, Star Trek was one of the first shows to feature an
> "ensemble" cast.  Much has been made of how each of the four central
> characters, Kirk, Spock, Doc and Scotty, were positioned in the Myers
> Briggs personality quadrant.  Googling "Myers Briggs Star Trek" yields some
> very interesting articles on the perceived placement of each of character.
> Further, you will discover more on the personality placement of characters
> in Star Trek, The Next Generation and Star Wars.  Very interesting reads.
> To keep this sailing related, as a boat skipper, you manage your crew.
> During a race, crew dynamics can influence the performance of the boat.
> Having insight into your crews personality types may help you, as a boat
> manager, fuse your crew into a cohesive working unit.
> Here's a fun way to find out who your crew really is.  Have each of them
> go to the link below and take the test.  Next time you're in a relaxed crew
> environment, ask them to disclose the results of the test.  Enjoy.
> Scroll to the bottom and select the link for your language.  You can give
> a fake name when asked.  
>
> Dennis C.
> Touche' 35-1 #83
> Mandeville, LA
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 10:46 PM, Chuck S  wrote:
>
>> Hey Edd,
>> I was 12 years old when Star Trek, originally aired.  It really was
>> ground breaking with a diverse crew at a time when civil rights was great
>> bunch of characters and the women were always dreamy vixens.  Really liked
>> the Next Generation where Patrick Stewart played Jean Luc Picard like he
>> was Hornblower, another icon of sailing.   And the women were even more
>> amazing.  Enterprise was upgraded too.
>>
>> One thing I never figured out and wanted to ask somebody;  Is there any
>> logic in the "Captain's Star Date" numbers?
>>
>> Chuck
>> Resolute
>> 1990 C&C 34R
>> Atlantic City, NJ
>> --
>> *From: *"Edd Schillay" 
>> *To: *cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>> *Sent: *Thursday, March 6, 2014 10:27:38 AM
>> *Subject: *Stus-List  Now Boat Names
>>
>> As you may have guessed, my boat's name is based on a Lucille Ball / Desi
>> Arnez-produced 1960's failed train-wreck NBC television series . . .
>>
>> . . . which led to highly-rated syndication, five spin-off television
>> series and 12 feature films, not to mention decades and decades of
>> merchandising dollars for Paramount/Viacom.
>>
>> For me, though, the Starship Enterprise was an "escape vehicle" -- when I
>> got home from grade school in the 70s, I could leave all the pressures and
>> troubles behind, turn on WPIX channel 11, and I'll be exploring the final
>> frontier's strange new worlds, seeking out new life and new civilizations .
>> . .
>>
>> In 1980, I bought my first sailboat, an O'Day 7-11 sailing dinghy, pretty
>> much right after the release of The Motion Picture, a wholly lousy film on
>> may levels, except for the Enterprise itself. Once again, I felt my
>> imagination was able to escape the day-to-day life in suburbia. There could
>> be no other name. The sailboat had to be named Enterprise.
>>
>> When I turned 18, after I got the whole "you're a man now" speech from my
>> father, I aptly decided to cut school to see the third movie with some
>> friends for my birthday, and got the worst birthday present ever -- the
>> Enterprise exploded from self-destruct over Planet Genesis. My escape
>> vehicle was gone. Adulthood slapped me in the face - hard.
>>
>> Fortunately, a couple of years later, I went to see the fourth feature
>> film - a time-travel story to rescue humpback whales from 20th-Century
>> earth. At the very end, Kirk and crew were delivered to a brand new
>> Enterprise with a hull number of NCC-1701-A. The escape vehicle was back
>> and my imagination could, one again, boldly go.
>>
>> Since then, we have seen several future versions of the famed starship;
>> 1701-B, 1701-C, 1701-D, 1701-E and even a brief glimpse of the 1701-J.
>>
>> So, like the series, I decided that all of my future vessels will also
>> carry the name Enterprise, and I'll have my very own escape vehicle to get
>> away from the pressure of work and life while exploring LI Sound and the
>> surrounding areas.
>>
>> As I tell my crew, when sailing on the Enterprise, we have one Prime
>> Directive -- Wherever we go, we go boldly.
>>
>> All the best,
>>
>> Edd
>>
>> Edd M. Schillay
>> Starship Enterprise
>> C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
>> City Island, NY
>> Starship Enterprise's Captain's Lo

Re: Stus-List Where's Stu

[Rick Brass]

Hell. As a couple of former girlfriends have so eloquently pointed out, I
NEVER seem to know what's going on.

At times, ignorance is bliss.

Rick Brass

-Original Message-
From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Wally
Bryant
Sent: Friday, March 07, 2014 8:25 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Where's Stu

Well, clearly I have no idea what's going on.  And I don't have a problem
with that.

Wal

Stu wrote:
> No, no, no --  if you sleep, you miss out on watching the 
> bikini-bunnies, happy hour at the Tiki Bar with the C&C (cute and
> cuddly) hostess, BBQ'ed steak on the patio and finish off with a 
> couple of Dark & Stormies around the campfire.
>
> Reality sets in next weekend when we have to hit the road and move 
> back to the frozen north they call Canada, eh.
>
> Stu

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Re: Stus-List owners database - measures

[Russ & Melody]

Hi Jimmy,

Here it is:
http://www.cncphotoalbum.com/technical/measurements.htm

Stu already has this info on his site. And as an added bonus, it is 
available to all members of the email list AT NO CHARGE!  :)


Sweet.



At 04:47 PM 07/03/2014, you wrote:
one consideration could be marketing length  ex. cnc30  ..along with 
overall length...many cnc models  like 27s  varied from 26.8ft to27 
.9ft i believe  in case of cnc 38s  were less than 38ft..redline 
41was 41ft .7 on deck only fit in 43 ft slip because of reverse 
transom  &that does not include bowpulpit overhang...newport 41s are 
40ft.just a thought...

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Re: Stus-List Now Boat Names, Star Trek - crew personalities

[bobmor99 .]

So, are Dreamer Minstrels tacticians and Prime Ministers helmsmen?
And what the heck are Black Knights?
Bob M
Ox 33-1
Jax, FL


On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 9:22 PM, bobmor99 .  wrote:

> Hey, me too - Dreamer Minstrel.
> What is there besides Dreamer Minstrel and Black Knight?
> Bob M
> Ox 33-1
> Jax, FL
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 8:54 AM, Danny Haughey  wrote:
>
>> I'm the
>> The Dreamer Minstrel...  There i said it and I don't care who knows it!
>> Funny thing is that this seems pretty accurate...  LOL
>>
>>
>> -- Original Message --
>> From: "Dennis C." 
>> To: CnClist 
>> Subject: Re: Stus-List Now Boat Names, Star Trek - crew personalities
>> Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2014 07:12:47 -0600
>>
>> Just as a note, Star Trek was one of the first shows to feature an
>> "ensemble" cast.  Much has been made of how each of the four central
>> characters, Kirk, Spock, Doc and Scotty, were positioned in the Myers
>> Briggs personality quadrant.  Googling "Myers Briggs Star Trek" yields some
>> very interesting articles on the perceived placement of each of character.
>> Further, you will discover more on the personality placement of characters
>> in Star Trek, The Next Generation and Star Wars.  Very interesting reads.
>> To keep this sailing related, as a boat skipper, you manage your crew.
>> During a race, crew dynamics can influence the performance of the boat.
>> Having insight into your crews personality types may help you, as a boat
>> manager, fuse your crew into a cohesive working unit.
>> Here's a fun way to find out who your crew really is.  Have each of them
>> go to the link below and take the test.  Next time you're in a relaxed crew
>> environment, ask them to disclose the results of the test.  Enjoy.
>> Scroll to the bottom and select the link for your language.  You can give
>> a fake name when asked.  
>>
>> Dennis C.
>> Touche' 35-1 #83
>> Mandeville, LA
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 10:46 PM, Chuck S  wrote:
>>
>>> Hey Edd,
>>> I was 12 years old when Star Trek, originally aired.  It really was
>>> ground breaking with a diverse crew at a time when civil rights was great
>>> bunch of characters and the women were always dreamy vixens.  Really liked
>>> the Next Generation where Patrick Stewart played Jean Luc Picard like he
>>> was Hornblower, another icon of sailing.   And the women were even more
>>> amazing.  Enterprise was upgraded too.
>>>
>>> One thing I never figured out and wanted to ask somebody;  Is there any
>>> logic in the "Captain's Star Date" numbers?
>>>
>>> Chuck
>>> Resolute
>>> 1990 C&C 34R
>>> Atlantic City, NJ
>>> --
>>> *From: *"Edd Schillay" 
>>> *To: *cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>>> *Sent: *Thursday, March 6, 2014 10:27:38 AM
>>> *Subject: *Stus-List  Now Boat Names
>>>
>>> As you may have guessed, my boat's name is based on a Lucille Ball /
>>> Desi Arnez-produced 1960's failed train-wreck NBC television series . . .
>>>
>>> . . . which led to highly-rated syndication, five spin-off television
>>> series and 12 feature films, not to mention decades and decades of
>>> merchandising dollars for Paramount/Viacom.
>>>
>>> For me, though, the Starship Enterprise was an "escape vehicle" -- when I
>>> got home from grade school in the 70s, I could leave all the pressures and
>>> troubles behind, turn on WPIX channel 11, and I'll be exploring the final
>>> frontier's strange new worlds, seeking out new life and new civilizations .
>>> . .
>>>
>>> In 1980, I bought my first sailboat, an O'Day 7-11 sailing dinghy,
>>> pretty much right after the release of The Motion Picture, a wholly lousy
>>> film on may levels, except for the Enterprise itself. Once again, I felt my
>>> imagination was able to escape the day-to-day life in suburbia. There could
>>> be no other name. The sailboat had to be named Enterprise.
>>>
>>> When I turned 18, after I got the whole "you're a man now" speech from
>>> my father, I aptly decided to cut school to see the third movie with some
>>> friends for my birthday, and got the worst birthday present ever -- the
>>> Enterprise exploded from self-destruct over Planet Genesis. My escape
>>> vehicle was gone. Adulthood slapped me in the face - hard.
>>>
>>> Fortunately, a couple of years later, I went to see the fourth feature
>>> film - a time-travel story to rescue humpback whales from 20th-Century
>>> earth. At the very end, Kirk and crew were delivered to a brand new
>>> Enterprise with a hull number of NCC-1701-A. The escape vehicle was back
>>> and my imagination could, one again, boldly go.
>>>
>>> Since then, we have seen several future versions of the famed starship;
>>> 1701-B, 1701-C, 1701-D, 1701-E and even a brief glimpse of the 1701-J.
>>>
>>> So, like the series, I decided that all of my future vessels will also
>>> carry the name Enterprise, and I'll have my very own escape vehicle to get
>>> away from the pressure of work and life while exploring LI Sound and the
>>> surrounding are

Re: Stus-List Now: Worst Boat Names

[Jake Brodersen]

We've got a boat racing here called "Bow Movement".  Ugh!!!

 

Jake

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Rick
Taillieu
Sent: Friday, March 07, 2014 6:42 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Now: Worst Boat Names

 

A number of years ago I saw a Mirage 24 called "Breaking Wind".

 

Rick Taillieu

Nemesis

'75 C&C 25  #371

Shearwater Yacht Club

Halifax, NS.

 

 

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Re: Stus-List Now Boat Names

[j...@svpaws.net]

Ok, I'll jump in.

Walking down the dock to the launch last year, I noticed a powerboat tied up to 
the dock.  As I got in the launch the operator just smiled at me and said - 
wait a minute.  Heading out to my mooring we passed the stern of the powerboat. 
 The new owner was hard at work removing the name on his new boat

Bow movement

No renaming ceremony required.

John

Sent from my iPad

> On Mar 7, 2014, at 9:05 PM, "Rick Brass"  wrote:
> 
> When I bought her, my 38 was named Scarlet Fever. (the original name since 
> she was launched in 1976 in Lake St. Clair, as it turns out.) So obviously a 
> name change was in order.
>  
> My former girlfriend and I looked at a lot of potential names. I’ve always 
> thought “Emerald Flash” or “Green Flash” was a good name, since one of the 
> things on my bucket list is to actually see one from the deck of my own boat. 
> But if you call her “Green Flash” and race her, you’d better be darn fast.
>  
> Another potential name was “Primal”. The psychological term for an experience 
> which can only be understood from experience and not from description as a 
> “primal experience” – and sailing is certainly one of these. If you can tell 
> a non-sailor how you can get an adrenalin rush on a sailboat traveling at 
> something between walking and jogging speed, you’re a better man than I.
>  
> Anyway, we came up with a total of 27 potential names from astrology, 
> mythology, astronomy, quotations, etc. How to decide among them?
>  
> We had a lottery! We each picked our favorite 10 out of the 27. I think that 
> left 16 or 17 (maybe I should have known the relationship was never going to 
> last at that point?). Then a second cut to get down to 9. Those went into a 
> hat…. And out came Imzadi. (Which was my personal favorite. And my former 
> girlfriend hated it.
>  
> As Edd will know, “Imzadi” is Betazoid for “beloved”, and the context is that 
> it is a term reserved for your first or greatest love. Will Ryker and Dianna 
> Troi of Next Generation have an historic relationship, and it is an 
> endearment they use on occasion in the series. And it is certainly a fitting 
> name for my boat, and for sailing.
>  
> I admit it. I’m an incurable romantic. My 25 is named “la Belle Aurore”, 
> which most movie buffs will know is the bar where Rick and Ilsa say goodbye 
> in Paris, in the movie Casablanca.
>  
>  
> Rick Brass
> Imzadi -1976 C&C 38 mk1
> la Belle Aurore -1975 C&C 25 mk1
> Washington, NC
>  
>  
>  
> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Edd 
> Schillay
> Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2014 10:28 AM
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Subject: Stus-List Now Boat Names
>  
> As you may have guessed, my boat's name is based on a Lucille Ball / Desi 
> Arnez-produced 1960’s failed train-wreck NBC television series . . .
>  
> . . . which led to highly-rated syndication, five spin-off television series 
> and 12 feature films, not to mention decades and decades of merchandising 
> dollars for Paramount/Viacom. 
>  
> For me, though, the Starship Enterprise was an “escape vehicle” — when I got 
> home from grade school in the 70s, I could leave all the pressures and 
> troubles behind, turn on WPIX channel 11, and I’ll be exploring the final 
> frontier’s strange new worlds, seeking out new life and new civilizations . . 
> .
>  
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Re: Stus-List Now: Worst Boat Names

[Brent Driedger]

Have we all heard of the tender known as Original Contract on the davits of the 
giant yacht Change Order?

Brent
Lake Winnipeg

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 7, 2014, at 8:37 PM, "Jake Brodersen"  wrote:
> 
> We’ve got a boat racing here called “Bow Movement”.  Ugh!!!
>  
> Jake
>  
> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Rick 
> Taillieu
> Sent: Friday, March 07, 2014 6:42 PM
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Now: Worst Boat Names
>  
> A number of years ago I saw a Mirage 24 called “Breaking Wind”.
>  
> Rick Taillieu
> Nemesis
> '75 C&C 25  #371
> Shearwater Yacht Club
> Halifax, NS.
>  
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Re: Stus-List Where's Stu

[Jim Watts]

Ignorance is almost always bliss. That's why most of our politicians and
film stars look so happy all the time.

Jim Watts
Paradigm Shift
C&C 35 Mk III
Victoria, BC


On 7 March 2014 18:25, Rick Brass  wrote:

> Hell. As a couple of former girlfriends have so eloquently pointed out, I
> NEVER seem to know what's going on.
>
> At times, ignorance is bliss.
>
> Rick Brass
>
> -Original Message-
> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Wally
> Bryant
> Sent: Friday, March 07, 2014 8:25 PM
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Where's Stu
>
> Well, clearly I have no idea what's going on.  And I don't have a problem
> with that.
>
> Wal
>
> Stu wrote:
> > No, no, no --  if you sleep, you miss out on watching the
> > bikini-bunnies, happy hour at the Tiki Bar with the C&C (cute and
> > cuddly) hostess, BBQ'ed steak on the patio and finish off with a
> > couple of Dark & Stormies around the campfire.
> >
> > Reality sets in next weekend when we have to hit the road and move
> > back to the frozen north they call Canada, eh.
> >
> > Stu
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Re: Stus-List Exhaust Riser Replacement

[Michael Brown]

I guess the worst result would be to have a crud'd up carb and perfectly
clean filters.

A few thoughts, not really a diagnoses of what is happening.

Modern gas is a cocktail of gasoline, ethanol, detergents, maybe fuel injector
cleaners, co-solvents and whatever seasonal additives our government feels
should be added. Even diesel fuel is getting to be an engineered blend.
With intermittent use the various properties of the fuel can keep particulates
in suspension, at least while it is still wet. On a warm day against a warm
engine the fuel in the carb will evaporate slowly, leaving behind heavier
additives and crud. Repeat a few times a week and after a while you end
up with crud / film / varnish in the carb. No perfect solution, a sub 10 micron
filter will help. Not having all the extra additives in the gas would be good,
not likely to happen. Avoiding ethanol is important, but at least in Canada
that means using high test / premium / expensive which has all the other
additives.

The failure of the exhaust riser and not starting may be related. No guess
as to how, particularly if clearing crud out of the carb solved it.  


Some simple maintenance steps.

Get to a clean state, may require having the carb rebuilt. Check the filters
and sediment bowl for contaminates. Not sure which carb you have. On mine
there is a stern facing drain plug at the bottom, uses a 1/2" wrench. You
can drain the fuel bowl into a can, and using the priming bail on the pump
you can flush it. Pass the fuel through a coffee filter, then let it dry. You 
may
end up with a light outline of a ring, which is OK. Anything that resembles a
psychiatrists rorschach test is likely a problem.

I drain everything in the fall, tank - lines - filter - carb. Takes about 15 
minutes,
plus the time for the tank to drain. In the spring I flush a bit of the gas 
through
the system and the carb using the primer on the pump, again a few minutes.
Ends up as part of the oil change, coolant drain and fogging the engine routine.
It gets cold enough here that the stability of the gasoline / ethanol / alcohol
summer blend may not sit well over the winter. Even the pro ethanol group
cautions about the various problems separated or water infiltrated fuel posses. 

Quoted:

There are a few potential nuances that may occur with the initial introduction 
of methanol blends into the gasoline distribution
system. One is that the solvency of the gasoline may now be slightly different 
from before. This change in solvency may cause
some of the long–term gum and dirt build-up in the storage system to readily 
dissolve, and then be released abruptly from the
walls of the gasoline distribution system. As a result, a slight colouration 
may be found in the initial gasoline batch containing
methanol, and a temporary increase in fuel filter replacements may be required 
at the gasoline dispenser pumps to capture
any dislodged dirt. In addition, the pump dispenser filters many need to be 
switched to a type with smaller micron opening
that is designed for alcohol gasoline blends. The performance of vehicles 
during this initial phase should be unaffected as long
as good house–keeping practices are maintained at the retail gasoline outlets.

http://www.google.ca/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=6&ved=0CE8QFjAF&url=http%3A%2F%2Fmethanol.org%2FEnergy%2FTransportation-Fuel%2FFuel-Blending-Guidelines%2FBlending-Handling-Bulletin-(Final).aspx&ei=-Z0aU5KWFoTgrQGD0YG4Cg&usg=AFQjCNHeRBwrSRbrOQjrtR_ZApgL_7dlMQ&bvm=bv.62578216,d.aWM&cad=rja

Shouldn't be this complicated, just nowhere to go and purchase simple gas 
anymore.

Michael Brown
Windburn
C&C 30-1


 

 Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2014 20:35:47 -0500 
From: "bobmor99 ."  
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Exhaust Riser Replacement 
Message-ID: 
      
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" 
 
Michael, 
Thank you very much for the reply. I hope the rest of the list will indulge 
in an A4 discussion. 
Yes, there's a mechanical fuel pump. 
The stainless sedimenter bowl was "squeaky clean", no crud. The transparent 
(automotive) gas filter just in front of the sedimenter bowl was/is also 
"squeaky clean". There is also a canister filter adjacent to the gas tank. 
I have not had that apart. 
I've been "pretty good" about using ethanol-free gas and the gas tank has 
been full throughout the winter. 
The failure to (re)start coincides with the exhaust riser failure which was 
noticed at the dock while running the engine after an oil change. 
Any elaboration of alternate theories is appreciated in advance. 
Bob M 
Ox 33-1 
Jax, FL 
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Re: Stus-List Now Boat Names, Star Trek - crew personalities

[Rich Knowles]

The Discoverer. No wonder I run aground every so often!

Rich


> On Mar 7, 2014, at 22:21, "Rick Brass"  wrote:
> 
> Cool personality profile test. My results say “prime Minister”. And pretty 
> well describe how I see myself.
>  
> Rick Brass
>  
> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Dennis C.
> Sent: Friday, March 07, 2014 8:13 AM
> To: CnClist
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Now Boat Names, Star Trek - crew personalities
>  
> Just as a note, Star Trek was one of the first shows to feature an "ensemble" 
> cast.  Much has been made of how each of the four central characters, Kirk, 
> Spock, Doc and Scotty, were positioned in the Myers Briggs personality 
> quadrant.  Googling "Myers Briggs Star Trek" yields some very interesting 
> articles on the perceived placement of each of character.  Further, you will 
> discover more on the personality placement of characters in Star Trek, The 
> Next Generation and Star Wars.  Very interesting reads.
> 
> To keep this sailing related, as a boat skipper, you manage your crew.  
> During a race, crew dynamics can influence the performance of the boat.  
> Having insight into your crews personality types may help you, as a boat 
> manager, fuse your crew into a cohesive working unit.
> 
> Here's a fun way to find out who your crew really is.  Have each of them go 
> to the link below and take the test.  Next time you're in a relaxed crew 
> environment, ask them to disclose the results of the test.  Enjoy.
> 
> Scroll to the bottom and select the link for your language.  You can give a 
> fake name when asked.  
>  
> Dennis C.
> Touche' 35-1 #83
> Mandeville, LA
>  
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Re: Stus-List Now: Worst Boat Names

[Rich Knowles]

That should be in the "best" list!

Rich


> On Mar 8, 2014, at 0:07, Brent Driedger  wrote:
> 
> Have we all heard of the tender known as Original Contract on the davits of 
> the giant yacht Change Order?
> 
> Brent
> Lake Winnipeg
> 
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Re: Stus-List Boat names Why bother ?

[Andy Blanchard]

When I purchase my my C&C the name  at the time was ``  Medicine Man ` and shit 
, I really didn't like the name so I decided to call her after my mothers first 
name "Bella" , French Canadian. She is is the most wonderful women  and  thanks 
to her I was able to enjoy  the sport  of sailing, 
They told me at my Marina that if I was to change  the name on my Boat there 
was a ceremony, ! " / $$$  and  I needed to find a Virgin Women ( impossible in 
my area)  and she was to pee on the bow of the boat while I was  backing up 
lol  then and only then I could change the name of the Boat.
I don`t know any French Canadians that are Virgins , and yes I have found the 
recipe for Painkillers  
Cheers !
AndyFrom: andyblanch...@hotmail.ca
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: RE: Stus-List BVI charter cost is cheap!!! for the Jeanneau 36I
Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2014 11:54:22 -0500




We just got back from the BVI's and it's true what they say, it's the sailing 
capital of the World. Very beautiful, people are friendly and I would recommend 
for any sailors that you should put this on your bucket list.
cheers
AndyC&C 25 MK1
From: elev...@grayinsco.com
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2014 16:28:08 +
Subject: Re: Stus-List BVI charter cost is cheap!!! for the Jeanneau 36I









In all the anchorages where one is likely to spend the night, unless you are 
very adept at picking your way through the mooring field to find that patch of
 bottom with good holding and then are confident in setting your anchor so as 
not to swing into other boats and not have to worry about dragging, the cost of 
the mooring ball does provide some peace of mind that helps with a good night's 
sleep.

 
Ed
Briar Patch C&C 34
New Orleans
 


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On Behalf Of Frederick G Street

Sent: Friday, January 24, 2014 10:13 AM

To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com

Subject: Re: Stus-List BVI charter cost is cheap!!! for the Jeanneau 36I


 

>From the BVI Tourism website:


 



Please note that in virtually all of the areas where the National Parks Trust 
moorings are found, the areas can encounter rough and unpredictable seas. In 
addition, some buoys are in the vicinity of shallow rocks and reefs. The 
moorings
 are, therefore, for DAY USE only, and it is illegal to use them overnight. - 
See more at:
http://www.bvitourism.com/moorings-anchorages#sthash.1ShihEdX.dpuf





Please note that in virtually all of the areas where the National Parks Trust 
moorings are found, the areas can encounter rough and unpredictable seas. In 
addition, some buoys are in the vicinity of shallow rocks and reefs. The 
moorings
 are, therefore, for DAY USE only, and it is illegal to use them overnight.






Please note that in virtually all of the areas where the National Parks Trust 
moorings are found, the areas can encounter rough and unpredictable seas. In 
addition, some buoys are in the vicinity of shallow rocks and reefs. The 
moorings
 are, therefore, for DAY USE only, and it is illegal to use them overnight. - 
See more at:
http://www.bvitourism.com/moorings-anchorages#sthash.1ShihEdX.dpuf






Please note that in virtually all of the areas where the National Parks Trust 
moorings are found, the areas can encounter rough and unpredictable seas. In 
addition, some buoys are in the vicinity of shallow rocks and reefs. The 
moorings
 are, therefore, for DAY USE only, and it is illegal to use them overnight. - 
See more at:
http://www.bvitourism.com/moorings-anchorages#sthash.1ShihEdX.dpuf




 

Hmmm… interesting.  Not what I was led to believe.




Fred Street -- Minneapolis

S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI   :^(


 


On Jan 24, 2014, at 10:08 AM, Frederick G Street  wrote:








Colin — I was under the impression that mooring balls were a requirement in 
many areas of the BVIs frequented by charterers.  Not so?



Fred Street -- Minneapolis

S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI   :^(


 


On Jan 24, 2014, at 9:59 AM, Colin Kilgour  wrote:








Also, you can anchor for free and save on mooring fees.  I NEVER pick up a ball 
in the BVI's. 






 




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