Re: Stus-List winterizing engine

[Della Barba, Joe]

My boat has a T on the inlet and one hose goes to the engine and one to the 
wash-down pump. To winterize I just shut off the thru-hull and pull the hose 
off the wash-down pump and stick it in a bucket with anti-freeze in it. The 
following only applies to raw water cooled engines, so all the FWC boats can 
ignore this. I stick an extra hose on the exhaust and run that into the bucket 
too so the antifreeze circulates for a while.  This allows the engine to get 
hot and clears any water trapped by a closed thermostat.


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Re: Stus-List winterizing engine

[Joel Aronson]

My Pearson had a tee and a second seacock  and piece of hose to make
Winterizing easy.
Joel

On Friday, November 15, 2013, Della Barba, Joe wrote:

> My boat has a T on the inlet and one hose goes to the engine and one to
> the wash-down pump. To winterize I just shut off the thru-hull and pull the
> hose off the wash-down pump and stick it in a bucket with anti-freeze in
> it. The following only applies to raw water cooled engines, so all the FWC
> boats can ignore this. I stick an extra hose on the exhaust and run that
> into the bucket too so the antifreeze circulates for a while.  This allows
> the engine to get hot and clears any water trapped by a closed thermostat.
>
>
>
>
>
> *Joe Della Barba*
>
> *Coquina C&C 35 MK I*
>


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Stus-List Broken Strut

[djhaug...@juno.com]

 So, my prop strut was broken when they hauled my boat this year.  I got, "did 
you know your strut was broken?  You must have had terrible vibrations."  I 
didn't have any that I noticed.  Then he says, " maybe you should go to a 
regular prop"  I said " that set up has been on the boat 40 years without an 
issue..." Anyway.  They say that they can't just buy a replacement and that i 
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Re: Stus-List Broken Strut

[Tim Sippel]

Any sling marks on strut or Propeller shaft ?  L 

 

Tim > 
 Toronto   

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Subject: Stus-List Broken Strut

 

 

So, my prop strut was broken when they hauled my boat this year.  I got,
"did you know your strut was broken?  You must have had terrible
vibrations."  I didn't have any that I noticed.  Then he says, " maybe
you should go to a regular prop"  I said " that set up has been on the
boat 40 years without an issue..."

 

Anyway.  They say that they can't just buy a replacement and that i need
to have one fabricated!   for $530!!!  OUCH!

 

DAnny


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Stus-List shaft size 29-2

[bev parslow]

Need to replace the zincs this week. What is the shaft size? Memory tells me 
7/8ths.
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Re: Stus-List Broken Strut

[Jim Watts]

Have you checked Buck Algonquin for a match?

http://catalog.buckalgonquin.com/category/struts-1



On 15 November 2013 09:03, djhaug...@juno.com  wrote:

>
> So, my prop strut was broken when they hauled my boat this year.  I got,
> "did you know your strut was broken?  You must have had terrible
> vibrations."  I didn't have any that I noticed.  Then he says, " maybe you
> should go to a regular prop"  I said " that set up has been on the boat 40
> years without an issue..."
>
> Anyway.  They say that they can't just buy a replacement and that i need
> to have one fabricated!   for $530!!!  OUCH!
>
> DAnny
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Re: Stus-List Broken Strut

[Rich Knowles]

That should be repairable at a good welding shop 

Rich

> On Nov 15, 2013, at 13:03, "djhaug...@juno.com"  wrote:
> 
>  
> So, my prop strut was broken when they hauled my boat this year.  I got, "did 
> you know your strut was broken?  You must have had terrible vibrations."  I 
> didn't have any that I noticed.  Then he says, " maybe you should go to a 
> regular prop"  I said " that set up has been on the boat 40 years without an 
> issue..."
>  
> Anyway.  They say that they can't just buy a replacement and that i need to 
> have one fabricated!   for $530!!!  OUCH!
>  
> DAnny
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Re: Stus-List further questions about replacing the bellows

[Marek Dziedzic]

Jim,

funny how these things mushroom. I started with replacing the stuffing box and 
decided on the PSS. Then I ended up replacing the shaft, coupling and the 
cutlass bearing.

The good thing is that the shaft will probably last longer than I own the boat. 

The bad thing is that after all costs are added (parts and labour), I bet it 
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Re: Stus-List winterizing engine

[Marek Dziedzic]

Dwight,

I don’t intend on bragging, but we are normally about 7-10 C colder in winter 
than you are. 

I lived by the sea for many years and I know how the extra wind chill and 
humidity can feel, but for the hard freeze of the water it does not matter that 
much. 

I know that the 20 l of antifreeze is probably too much, but it is a cheap 
insurance. Maybe I would need less, if I had someone watching the exhaust, but 
I do all the maintenance singlehanded. 

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Re: Stus-List further questions about replacing the bellows

[Jim Watts]

Try $5K. That one hurt.


On 15 November 2013 09:32, Marek Dziedzic  wrote:

>   Jim,
>
> funny how these things mushroom. I started with replacing the stuffing box
> and decided on the PSS. Then I ended up replacing the shaft, coupling and
> the cutlass bearing.
>
> The good thing is that the shaft will probably last longer than I own the
> boat.
>
> The bad thing is that after all costs are added (parts and labour), I bet
> it was a nice $1k upgrade.
>
> Marek (in Ottawa)
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Re: Stus-List shaft size 29-2

[Jim Watts]

Your memory is correct.


On 15 November 2013 09:26, bev parslow  wrote:

> Need to replace the zincs this week. What is the shaft size? Memory tells
> me 7/8ths.
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Re: Stus-List shaft size 29-2

[randy]

Mine is 7/8".  Err, my shaft.  Um, my prop shaft...

With apologies to Wally!  ;-)

randy
Tamanawas
29-II
Hood River, OR

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Need to replace the zincs this week. What is the shaft size? Memory tells me
7/8ths.
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Re: Stus-List Broken Strut

[djhaug...@juno.com]

The guy at the yard checked buck algonquin with no luck.  I did look around and 
there was no apparent neglect.  However, they had already powerwashed 
everything by the time I got to see it.  It is obvious they are not owning up 
to it and I have no reason to think otherwise except the fact that there was no 
noticeable change while motoring... I just heard from him and he going to try 
and get me a photo of it.  The guy at Holland Marine said he might have some 
old stock laying around and might be able to match it up. I'm assuming this 
isn't the only boat that used this strut... Danny
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Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2013 09:27:16 -0800


Have you checked Buck Algonquin for a match? 

http://catalog.buckalgonquin.com/category/struts-1



On 15 November 2013 09:03, djhaug...@juno.com  wrote:
�So, my prop strut was broken when they hauled my boat this year. 
�I got, "did you know your strut was broken? �You must have had 
terrible vibrations." �I didn't have any that I noticed. �Then he 
says, " maybe you should go to a regular prop" �I said " that set up has 
been on the boat 40 years without an issue..."�Anyway. �They say 
that they can't just buy a replacement and that i need to have one fabricated! 
� for $530!!! �OUCH!�DAnny
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Re: Stus-List Broken Strut

[Dennis C.]

A machine shop can probably repair it but why not let a strut repair expert do 
it?

There are several strut repair/custom strut shops.  Google "propeller strut 
repair" for one near you.  Here's an example:

http://www.hhprop.com/machined-running-gear/strut-rudder-repair.php

Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA




>
> From: "djhaug...@juno.com" 
>To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
>Sent: Friday, November 15, 2013 2:03 PM
>Subject: Re: Stus-List Broken Strut
> 
>
>
>The guy at the yard checked buck algonquin with no luck.  I did look around 
>and there was no apparent neglect.  However, they had already powerwashed 
>everything by the time I got to see it.  It is obvious they are not owning up 
>to it and I have no reason to think otherwise except the fact that there was 
>no noticeable change while motoring...
> 
>I just heard from him and he going to try and get me a photo of it.  The guy 
>at Holland Marine said he might have some old stock laying around and might be 
>able to match it up.
> 
>I'm assuming this isn't the only boat that used this strut...
> 
>Danny
>
>-- Original Message --
>From: Jim Watts 
>To: 1 CnC List 
>Subject: Re: Stus-List Broken Strut
>Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2013 09:27:16 -0800
>
>
>Have you checked Buck Algonquin for a match? 
>
>http://catalog.buckalgonquin.com/category/struts-1
>
>
>
>
>
>On 15 November 2013 09:03, djhaug...@juno.com  wrote:
>
>�
>>So, my prop strut was broken when they hauled my boat this year. �I got, "did 
>>you know your strut was broken? �You must have had terrible vibrations." �I 
>>didn't have any that I noticed. �Then he says, " maybe you should go to a 
>>regular prop" �I said " that set up has been on the boat 40 years without an 
>>issue..."
>>�
>>Anyway. �They say that they can't just buy a replacement and that i need to 
>>have one fabricated! � for $530!!! �OUCH!
>>�
>>DAnny
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Re: Stus-List Broken Strut

[Russ & Melody]

Hi Danny,

 In most cases it is pretty obvious if the joint has been exposed to 
seawater and/or oxygen for any length of time. A "bright" bronze is 
recent exposure. Normal power washing won't clean up tarnish.


Any indication of fresh bronze in the broken area?


Cheers, Russ
Sweet 35 mk-1


At 11:03 AM 15/11/2013, you wrote:
The guy at the yard checked buck algonquin with no luck.  I did look 
around and there was no apparent neglect.  However, they had already 
powerwashed everything by the time I got to see it.  It is obvious 
they are not owning up to it and I have no reason to think otherwise 
except the fact that there was no noticeable change while motoring...


I just heard from him and he going to try and get me a photo of 
it.  The guy at Holland Marine said he might have some old stock 
laying around and might be able to match it up.


I'm assuming this isn't the only boat that used this strut...

Danny

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Subject: Re: Stus-List Broken Strut
Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2013 09:27:16 -0800

Have you checked Buck Algonquin for a match?

http://catalog.buckalgonquin.com/category/struts-1



On 15 November 2013 09:03, 
djhaug...@juno.com 
<djhaug...@juno.com> wrote:
So, my prop strut was broken when they hauled my boat this year. I 
got, "did you know your strut was broken? You must have had terrible 
vibrations." I didn't have any that I noticed. Then he says, " maybe 
you should go to a regular prop" I said " that set up has been on 
the boat 40 years without an issue..."
Anyway. They say that they can't just buy a replacement and that i 
need to have one fabricated! for $530!!! OUCH!

DAnny

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Re: Stus-List Broken Strut

[Jim Watts]

The other thing is the colour. Is it a nice bronze, or pink?


On 15 November 2013 16:33, Russ & Melody  wrote:

>  Hi Danny,
>
>  In most cases it is pretty obvious if the joint has been exposed to
> seawater and/or oxygen for any length of time. A "bright" bronze is recent
> exposure. Normal power washing won't clean up tarnish.
>
> Any indication of fresh bronze in the broken area?
>
>
> Cheers, Russ
> *Sweet *35 mk-1
>
>
>
> At 11:03 AM 15/11/2013, you wrote:
>
> The guy at the yard checked buck algonquin with no luck.  I did look
> around and there was no apparent neglect.  However, they had already
> powerwashed everything by the time I got to see it.  It is obvious they are
> not owning up to it and I have no reason to think otherwise except the fact
> that there was no noticeable change while motoring...
>
> I just heard from him and he going to try and get me a photo of it.  The
> guy at Holland Marine said he might have some old stock laying around and
> might be able to match it up.
>
> I'm assuming this isn't the only boat that used this strut...
>
> Danny
>
> -- Original Message --
> From: Jim Watts 
> To: 1 CnC List 
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Broken Strut
> Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2013 09:27:16 -0800
>
> Have you checked Buck Algonquin for a match?
>
>  http://catalog.buckalgonquin.com/category/struts-1
>
>
>
> On 15 November 2013 09:03, djhaug...@juno.com  wrote:
>  So, my prop strut was broken when they hauled my boat this year. I got,
> "did you know your strut was broken? You must have had terrible
> vibrations." I didn't have any that I noticed. Then he says, " maybe you
> should go to a regular prop" I said " that set up has been on the boat 40
> years without an issue..."
> Anyway. They say that they can't just buy a replacement and that i need to
> have one fabricated! for $530!!! OUCH!
> DAnny
>
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Re: Stus-List Broken Strut

[djhaug...@juno.com]

No, not really.  the break was slightly, even green.  The boat was hauled for 
about 2 weeks before I got to look at it

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From: "Russ & Melody" 
To: 
Subject: Stus-List Broken Strut
Date: Fri, Nov 15, 2013 7:33 pm
Hi Danny,


In most cases it is pretty obvious if the joint has been exposed to
seawater and/or oxygen for any length of time. A "bright"
bronze is recent exposure. Normal power washing won't clean up
tarnish.


Any indication of fresh bronze in the broken area?




Cheers,
Russ

Sweet
35 mk-1




At 11:03 AM 15/11/2013, you wrote:

The guy at the yard checked buck
algonquin with no luck.  I did look around and there was no apparent
neglect.  However, they had already powerwashed everything by the
time I got to see it.  It is obvious they are not owning up to it
and I have no reason to think otherwise except the fact that there was no
noticeable change while motoring...



I just heard from him and he going to try and get me a photo of it. 
The guy at Holland Marine said he might have some old stock laying around
and might be able to match it up.



I'm assuming this isn't the only boat that used this strut...



Danny


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Subject: Re: Stus-List Broken Strut

Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2013 09:27:16 -0800


Have you checked Buck Algonquin for a match? 



http://catalog.buckalgonquin.com/category/struts-1





On 15 November 2013 09:03,
djhaug...@juno.com

wrote:



So, my prop strut was broken when they hauled my boat this year. I
got, "did you know your strut was broken? You must have had terrible
vibrations." I didn't have any that I noticed. Then he says, "
maybe you should go to a regular prop" I said " that set up has
been on the boat 40 years without an issue..."


Anyway. They say that they can't just buy a replacement and that i
need to have one fabricated! for $530!!! OUCH!


DAnny



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Re: Stus-List Broken Strut

[Russ & Melody]

Hi Danny,

... showing green, I think you're on your own.

It's probably worth taking it to a machine shop 
for a repair estimate. It's really no big deal to 
do a brazing repair on something like that.


Cheers, Russ
Sweet 35 mk-1


At 04:42 PM 15/11/2013, you wrote:
No, not really.  the break was slightly, even 
green.  The boat was hauled for about 2 weeks before I got to look at it


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To: 
Subject: Stus-List Broken Strut
Date: Fri, Nov 15, 2013 7:33 pm


Hi Danny,

 In most cases it is pretty obvious if the 
joint has been exposed to seawater and/or 
oxygen for any length of time. A "bright" 
bronze is recent exposure. Normal power washing won't clean up tarnish.


Any indication of fresh bronze in the broken area?


Cheers, Russ
Sweet 35 mk-1


At 11:03 AM 15/11/2013, you wrote:
The guy at the yard checked buck algonquin with 
no luck.  I did look around and there was no 
apparent neglect.  However, they had already 
powerwashed everything by the time I got to see 
it.  It is obvious they are not owning up to it 
and I have no reason to think otherwise except 
the fact that there was no noticeable change while motoring...


I just heard from him and he going to try and 
get me a photo of it.  The guy at Holland 
Marine said he might have some old stock laying 
around and might be able to match it up.


I'm assuming this isn't the only boat that used this strut...

Danny

-- Original Message --
From: Jim Watts 
To: 1 CnC List 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Broken Strut
Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2013 09:27:16 -0800

Have you checked Buck Algonquin for a match?

http://catalog.buckalgonquin.com/category/struts-1



On 15 November 2013 09:03, 
djhaug...@juno.com 
<djhaug...@juno.com> wrote:
So, my prop strut was broken when they hauled 
my boat this year. I got, "did you know your 
strut was broken? You must have had terrible 
vibrations." I didn't have any that I noticed. 
Then he says, " maybe you should go to a 
regular prop" I said " that set up has been on 
the boat 40 years without an issue..."
Anyway. They say that they can't just buy a 
replacement and that i need to have one fabricated! for $530!!! OUCH!

DAnny
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