Re: Stus-List Fridge upgrade - 34+
anyone recharged a Novakool? Our old Novakool was fine for our purposes, but has clearly lost the refrigerant. Looking for an option... Nate "Sarah Jean" 1980 30-1 On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 12:30 PM, David Blair wrote: > Anyone familiar with the 1990 34+ fridge details? I am thinking about > upgrading the insulation, for the usual reasons. Not sure how much was > installed originally and even less sure about how I can get into the > cabinetry to determine what is there now. Something internal looks a lot > more feasible but not sure of source for the right product. Planning to > install myself and prepared to spend some time to get it right. The > original NovaKool (sp?) works fine so far but draws a fair amount of juice. > Any suggestions or prior experience with this model? Thanks. > > ___ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > > ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Fridge upgrade - 34+
I had a retired refrigerator guy come out to the boat, he checked and recharged the system. $50 cash was a pretty good deal. On 5 October 2013 07:58, Nate Flesness wrote: > anyone recharged a Novakool? Our old Novakool was fine for our purposes, > but has clearly lost the refrigerant. > Looking for an option... > > Nate > "Sarah Jean" > 1980 30-1 > > > On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 12:30 PM, David Blair wrote: > >> Anyone familiar with the 1990 34+ fridge details? I am thinking about >> upgrading the insulation, for the usual reasons. Not sure how much was >> installed originally and even less sure about how I can get into the >> cabinetry to determine what is there now. Something internal looks a lot >> more feasible but not sure of source for the right product. Planning to >> install myself and prepared to spend some time to get it right. The >> original NovaKool (sp?) works fine so far but draws a fair amount of juice. >> Any suggestions or prior experience with this model? Thanks. >> >> ___ >> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >> http://www.cncphotoalbum.com >> CnC-List@cnc-list.com >> >> > > ___ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > > -- Jim Watts Paradigm Shift C&C 35 Mk III Victoria, BC ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Fridge upgrade - 34+
Whatever you do, don't use one of those refrigerant replacement kits that they sell in the automotive stores. They use a mixture of butane and propane to approximate the characteristics of the more-or-less chemically inert gases used originally. Steve Thomas C&C27 MKIII -Original Message- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com]On Behalf Of Jim Watts Sent: Saturday, October 05, 2013 11:25 AM To: 1 CnC List Subject: Re: Stus-List Fridge upgrade - 34+ I had a retired refrigerator guy come out to the boat, he checked and recharged the system. $50 cash was a pretty good deal. On 5 October 2013 07:58, Nate Flesness wrote: anyone recharged a Novakool? Our old Novakool was fine for our purposes, but has clearly lost the refrigerant. Looking for an option... Nate "Sarah Jean" 1980 30-1 On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 12:30 PM, David Blair wrote: Anyone familiar with the 1990 34+ fridge details? I am thinking about upgrading the insulation, for the usual reasons. Not sure how much was installed originally and even less sure about how I can get into the cabinetry to determine what is there now. Something internal looks a lot more feasible but not sure of source for the right product. Planning to install myself and prepared to spend some time to get it right. The original NovaKool (sp?) works fine so far but draws a fair amount of juice. Any suggestions or prior experience with this model? Thanks. ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com -- Jim Watts Paradigm Shift C&C 35 Mk III Victoria, BC ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Stus-List C&C 30 in GOR
http://www.dellabarba.com/sailing/gor/GOR.html I added some old stuff I found about Puffin, a C&C 30, in the Great Ocean Race and Lady Jane burning in the same race. Joe Della Barba j...@dellabarba.com ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Stus-List Tropical weather -Karen's approach
Dennis C., I know everyone will agree with me when I say I hope Karen stays away from you & Touche'. Please keep us posted. Fair Winds, Pete W. Siren Song C & C 30MKII Deltaville, Va Sent from my iPad ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Tropical weather -Karen's approach
I'm sure it'll be fine. Winds are currently < 35 knots and are expected to weaken. May want to think about throwing in that second reef, but other than that, doesn't seem too scary. (Touching wood, of course.) >From the 1900 NHC report... MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS ARE NEAR 40 MPH...65 KM/H...WITH HIGHER GUSTS. KAREN IS EXPECTED TO WEAKEN TO A TROPICAL DEPRESSION ON SUNDAY...AND BECOME A REMNANT LOW BY MONDAY. So far, it's been a very good hurricane season. For those of us with boats in the hurricane belt, there's just a few more weeks of crossing our fingers! Cheers, Colin On Sat, Oct 5, 2013 at 7:08 PM, Kelly & Pete Msn wrote: > Dennis C., > I know everyone will agree with me when I say I hope Karen stays away from > you & Touche'. > Please keep us posted. > > Fair Winds, > > Pete W. > > Siren Song > C & C 30MKII > Deltaville, Va > > > > Sent from my iPad > ___ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Tropical weather -Karen's approach
Thanks for the concern. Did moderate storm prep on Touché yesterday. Needn't have bothered. Karen has pretty much fizzled out. Was concerned about surge. Water never rose above dock boards. Dennis C. Touché 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 5, 2013, at 6:08 PM, Kelly & Pete Msn wrote: > > Dennis C., > I know everyone will agree with me when I say I hope Karen stays away from > you & Touche'. > Please keep us posted. > > Fair Winds, > > Pete W. > > Siren Song > C & C 30MKII > Deltaville, Va > > > > Sent from my iPad > ___ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com > CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Fridge upgrade - 34+
Can you clarify that? I thought that if the can said R134a it would contain R134a. Wal Steve Thomas wrote: Whatever you do, don't use one of those refrigerant replacement kits that they sell in the automotive stores. They use a mixture of butane and propane to approximate the characteristics of the more-or-less chemically inert gases used originally. ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Fridge upgrade - 34+
Uh-oh. Is that going to make a difference to your liver? On 5 October 2013 18:52, Wally Bryant wrote: > Can you clarify that? I thought that if the can said R134a it would > contain R134a. > > Wal > > > Steve Thomas wrote: > >> Whatever you do, don't use one of those refrigerant replacement kits that >> they sell in the automotive stores. They use a mixture >> of butane and propane to approximate the characteristics of the >> more-or-less chemically inert gases used originally. >> > > > __**_ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > -- Jim Watts Paradigm Shift C&C 35 Mk III Victoria, BC ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Fridge upgrade - 34+
Wally, There are several brands of hydrocarbon products available that are direct replacements for R134a, R22, and R12. Redtek is a big one in this area, available at Canadian Tire and NAPA, and there is another brand sold through TSC. The product labelling says something about how you should have the original refrigerant removed professionally first, and there are labels which you are supposed to apply in the engine compartment to indicate that the refrigerant has been changed. The labelling on the cans is not real clear about what they actually contain, but you can find out through the product literature available online. I am not certain exactly how the law applies to retailers, but R134a is not sold here directly to the public through regular retail outlets or in kits due to regulations requiring that refrigerant recovery equipment be used when servicing equipment containing halogenated hydrocarbons. The replacement products available to us amateurs work ok but they consist of mixtures of butane and propane. All of this is fine for your car or RV, but obviously these products would present a potential fire hazard in a sailboat. I don't know what the regulations are like in Mexico or the United States. Environmental regulations are both federal and provincial here, and in Ontario mechanics need an endorsement on their license to work on AC. I saw cans of R12 for sale in a variety store in St. Martin, several years after it was illegal everywhere else, but I am guessing that sources of supply like that must have dried up by now. Here is a link to the Redtek web page. http://www.redtek.com/index.html Steve Thomas C&C27 MKIII -Original Message- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com]On Behalf Of Wally Bryant Sent: Saturday, October 05, 2013 9:53 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Fridge upgrade - 34+ Can you clarify that? I thought that if the can said R134a it would contain R134a. Wal Steve Thomas wrote: > Whatever you do, don't use one of those refrigerant replacement kits that > they sell in the automotive stores. They use a mixture > of butane and propane to approximate the characteristics of the more-or-less > chemically inert gases used originally. ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
