Wally, There are several brands of hydrocarbon products available that are direct replacements for R134a, R22, and R12. Redtek is a big one in this area, available at Canadian Tire and NAPA, and there is another brand sold through TSC. The product labelling says something about how you should have the original refrigerant removed professionally first, and there are labels which you are supposed to apply in the engine compartment to indicate that the refrigerant has been changed. The labelling on the cans is not real clear about what they actually contain, but you can find out through the product literature available online. I am not certain exactly how the law applies to retailers, but R134a is not sold here directly to the public through regular retail outlets or in kits due to regulations requiring that refrigerant recovery equipment be used when servicing equipment containing halogenated hydrocarbons. The replacement products available to us amateurs work ok but they consist of mixtures of butane and propane. All of this is fine for your car or RV, but obviously these products would present a potential fire hazard in a sailboat.
I don't know what the regulations are like in Mexico or the United States. Environmental regulations are both federal and provincial here, and in Ontario mechanics need an endorsement on their license to work on AC. I saw cans of R12 for sale in a variety store in St. Martin, several years after it was illegal everywhere else, but I am guessing that sources of supply like that must have dried up by now. Here is a link to the Redtek web page. http://www.redtek.com/index.html Steve Thomas C&C27 MKIII -----Original Message----- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com]On Behalf Of Wally Bryant Sent: Saturday, October 05, 2013 9:53 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Fridge upgrade - 34+ Can you clarify that? I thought that if the can said R134a it would contain R134a. Wal Steve Thomas wrote: > Whatever you do, don't use one of those refrigerant replacement kits that > they sell in the automotive stores. They use a mixture > of butane and propane to approximate the characteristics of the more-or-less > chemically inert gases used originally. _______________________________________________ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com _______________________________________________ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com