Re: Stus-List mainsheet blocks for 29'

[Ian Matthew]

Tim,

I'll try and visit my boat this lunchtime and I'll take some photos for
you.  I replaced the original traveller track with a harken track and car
(making sure I bought the compatible both hole pitch rather than the new
one - I bought it from Mauri Pro and it fitted the old holes perfectly)

I have a double sheet system with a trim setup - you'll see in the photos.
 This allows me to flatten the main really hard - very important in sailing
San Francisco Bay.

Ian


On Wednesday, March 13, 2013, tim wrote:

> Hi,
>
> ** **
>
>I’m in the process of replacing the traveler, mainsheet blocks on my
> 29’.  Think I still have original equipment and is in the cockpit.  Can
> others provide me with types of blocks they use or recommendations?  I
> viewed the Harken site, with recommendation a 6:1 triple block system
> (hexratchet at the base).  A local sailmaker stated these fail quite often
> and have a lot of friction due to the twist.  He recommended a 5:1 system.
> 
>
> ** **
>
>Can others provide suggested setups?  Look forward to guidance.
>
> ** **
>
> Thanks,
>
> ** **
>
> Tim Welsh
>
> Sly Fox
>
> Mallets Bay, VT
>
> 29’ MK1 (1976)
>


-- 
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"Siento el Viento" C&C 29 mk 1
San Francisco Bay

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Re: Stus-List mainsheet blocks for 29'

[dwight veinot]

I think the triple block and ratchet system that I sent you a picture of
from my 35 MKII is a bit much for your 29.you could however use a double
block and ratchet system in a similar arrangement for a 5:1 purchase.I think
that would do fine.the ratchet block with cleat is a nice little feature for
easier control.  The way mine is setup with a snap shackle to the traveler
car as you can see in the photo allows me to easily detach and move the
mainsheet assembly to the toe rail when on the hook. 

 

Dwight Veinot

C&C 35 MKII, Alianna

Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS

 

  _  

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of tim
Sent: March 13, 2013 8:34 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Stus-List mainsheet blocks for 29'

 

Hi,

 

   I'm in the process of replacing the traveler, mainsheet blocks on my 29'.
Think I still have original equipment and is in the cockpit.  Can others
provide me with types of blocks they use or recommendations?  I viewed the
Harken site, with recommendation a 6:1 triple block system (hexratchet at
the base).  A local sailmaker stated these fail quite often and have a lot
of friction due to the twist.  He recommended a 5:1 system.

 

   Can others provide suggested setups?  Look forward to guidance.

 

Thanks,

 

Tim Welsh

Sly Fox

Mallets Bay, VT

29' MK1 (1976)

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Stus-List Mainsheet Systems

[Sam Salter]

Guy I sail with has this two speed set up on his Hotfoot 20.
http://www.harken.com/content.aspx?id=3902
Second one down - 3:1/6:1

I'm usually the helmsman and I really like it.
Thinking of putting it on my C&C 26.
I replaced the original traveller and car with a Harken setup a couple of years 
ago.
I can adjust the traveller under load now from either combing while I helm.
Sam :-)


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Re: Stus-List mainsheet blocks for 29'

[Andrew Burton]

On my J/80 I had a 5:1 purchase and hooked a 2:1 purchase to the tail,
doubling the initial purchase for the last 5 feet or so, which is the only
bit that really tough to get in. And eliminating the need for yards of
extra sheet over the side when you're reaching, or in the cockpit when
you're going to weather.
Andy
C&C 40
Peregrine

On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 12:56 PM, dwight veinot <
dwightvei...@hfx.eastlink.ca> wrote:

> ** ** **
>
> I think the triple block and ratchet system that I sent you a picture of
> from my 35 MKII is a bit much for your 29…you could however use a double
> block and ratchet system in a similar arrangement for a 5:1 purchase…I
> think that would do fine…the ratchet block with cleat is a nice little
> feature for easier control.  The way mine is setup with a snap shackle to
> the traveler car as you can see in the photo allows me to easily detach and
> move the mainsheet assembly to the toe rail when on the hook. 
>
> ** **
>
> Dwight Veinot
>
> C&C 35 MKII, Alianna
>
> Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS
>
> ** **
>  --
>
> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *tim
> *Sent:* March 13, 2013 8:34 PM
>
> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Subject:* Stus-List mainsheet blocks for 29'
> 
>
>  ** **
>
> Hi,
>
> ** **
>
>I’m in the process of replacing the traveler, mainsheet blocks on my
> 29’.  Think I still have original equipment and is in the cockpit.  Can
> others provide me with types of blocks they use or recommendations?  I
> viewed the Harken site, with recommendation a 6:1 triple block system
> (hexratchet at the base).  A local sailmaker stated these fail quite often
> and have a lot of friction due to the twist.  He recommended a 5:1 system.
> 
>
> ** **
>
>Can others provide suggested setups?  Look forward to guidance.
>
> ** **
>
> Thanks,
>
> ** **
>
> Tim Welsh
>
> Sly Fox
>
> Mallets Bay**, **VT
>
> 29’ MK1 (1976)
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Stus-List mainsheet blocks for 29

[Bob Hickson]

My 29 mark 2 has a Harken traveller track and car with a 5 to 1 mainsheet
system.

The traveller car has 3 to 1 controls 

Works well and the main can be trimmed with a modest effort.

 

Best regards,

Bob Hickson, P. Eng, RHI, CEA

C&C 29-2 Flying Colours

Frenchman's Bay Yacht Club

Pickering, ON

(416) 919-2297

  bobhick...@rogers.com

 

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Re: Stus-List mainsheet blocks for 29'

[johnrmcl]

Ian:
I would very much like to see your set up, as well.  Not at all pleased with 
the present traveler system on my 29-2.


John McLaughlin
"Falcon"



-Original Message-
From: Ian Matthew 
To: cnc-list 
Sent: Thu, Mar 14, 2013 2:15 pm
Subject: Re: Stus-List mainsheet blocks for 29'


Tim,


I'll try and visit my boat this lunchtime and I'll take some photos for you.  I 
replaced the original traveller track with a harken track and car (making sure 
I bought the compatible both hole pitch rather than the new one - I bought it 
from Mauri Pro and it fitted the old holes perfectly)


I have a double sheet system with a trim setup - you'll see in the photos.  
This allows me to flatten the main really hard - very important in sailing San 
Francisco Bay.


Ian


On Wednesday, March 13, 2013, tim  wrote:


Hi,
 
   I’m in the process of replacing the traveler, mainsheet blocks on my 29’.  
Think I still have original equipment and is in the cockpit.  Can others 
provide me with types of blocks they use or recommendations?  I viewed the 
Harken site, with recommendation a 6:1 triple block system (hexratchet at the 
base).  A local sailmaker stated these fail quite often and have a lot of 
friction due to the twist.  He recommended a 5:1 system.
 
   Can others provide suggested setups?  Look forward to guidance.
 
Thanks,
 
Tim Welsh
Sly Fox
Mallets Bay, VT
29’ MK1 (1976)




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San Francisco Bay
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Re: Stus-List Fwd: C&C 38 Landfall on ebay

[Ronald B. Frerker]

Funny you mentioned that; I'm in the same boat, pun intended!
Although my boat and probably my house are smaller.
Ron
Wild Cheri
C&C 30
STL


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From: Joe Della Barba 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Fwd: C&C 38 Landfall on ebay
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Date: Wednesday, March 13, 2013, 4:52 PM







We paid more for the boat than our house and that house is currently worth 
about $500,000. So in my mind, she is more than that J
 
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Re: Stus-List mainsheet blocks for 29'

[Pat Nevitt]

John,

I replaced the one on my 29-2 with a custom designed traveler from Garhauer
and was really pleased with it.  I'll send you some pictures when I get to
my other computer.  I would be interested in knowing which Harken system
Ian used because I worked with Harken and carefully measured all of their
traveler cars and I could not find one that would fit in the slot on our
boats, unless you built it way up to sit proud of the deck.

Pat

On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 3:03 PM,  wrote:

> Ian:
> I would very much like to see your set up, as well.  Not at all pleased
> with the present traveler system on my 29-2.
>
>  John McLaughlin
> "Falcon"
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Ian Matthew 
> To: cnc-list 
> Sent: Thu, Mar 14, 2013 2:15 pm
> Subject: Re: Stus-List mainsheet blocks for 29'
>
>  Tim,
>
>  I'll try and visit my boat this lunchtime and I'll take some photos for
> you.  I replaced the original traveller track with a harken track and car
> (making sure I bought the compatible both hole pitch rather than the new
> one - I bought it from Mauri Pro and it fitted the old holes perfectly)
>
>  I have a double sheet system with a trim setup - you'll see in the
> photos.  This allows me to flatten the main really hard - very important in
> sailing San Francisco Bay.
>
>  Ian
>
>
> On Wednesday, March 13, 2013, tim wrote:
>
>>  Hi,
>> ** **
>>I’m in the process of replacing the traveler, mainsheet blocks on my
>> 29’.  Think I still have original equipment and is in the cockpit.  Can
>> others provide me with types of blocks they use or recommendations?  I
>> viewed the Harken site, with recommendation a 6:1 triple block system
>> (hexratchet at the base).  A local sailmaker stated these fail quite often
>> and have a lot of friction due to the twist.  He recommended a 5:1 system.
>> 
>> ** **
>>Can others provide suggested setups?  Look forward to guidance.
>> ** **
>> Thanks,
>> ** **
>> Tim Welsh
>> Sly Fox
>> Mallets Bay, VT
>> 29’ MK1 (1976)
>>
>
>
> --
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> "Siento el Viento" C&C 29 mk 1
> San Francisco Bay
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Re: Stus-List 4200 vs Lifeseal

[David Knecht]

I have used both Lifeseal and Lifecaulk and both are great. One thing I 
especially like is that they do not cure in the tube after opening (or cure 
much slower than others).  Dave

On Mar 13, 2013, at 3:19 PM, Dennis C. wrote:

> FYI, I've just about stopped using 4200.  Seems a lot of the tubes I've 
> gotten were partially cured.
> 
> I like Lifeseal better.  Seems to adhere to more things better.
> 
> Dennis C.
> Touche' 35-1 #83
> Mandeville, LA
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Re: Stus-List 4200 vs Lifeseal

[Chuck S]

I started using Lifecaulk about 10 years ago when I first bought our boat. 
Tried 4200 3 years ago when I added jam cleats and found the adhesion much 
stronger. Life caulk takes days longer to cure. I was working alone and was so 
careful to place the 4200 under the screw head and under the cleat base and in 
the chamfered hole. The next day I went sailing and after returning to the 
dock, noticed I hadn't placed nuts on the screws. The 4200 held it tight to the 
deck. This camcleat had four bolts through the deck, w no nuts. Guess the bolts 
took the shear force and the 4200 kept it together enough to stay put. I added 
the fender washers & nuts and had my son hold the bolt still, while I tightened 
the aircraft nuts from underneath. No leaks. 

After a few months I tried to squeeze caulk out of a partially used tube of 
4200. I found it had cured in the nozzle but was still pliable in the tube. I 
drilled the nozzle open with a 1/4" drill and found it squeezed out just fine. 
Good stuff, though expensive. 


Chuck 
Resolute 
1990 C&C 34R 
Atlantic City, NJ 
- Original Message -
From: "David Knecht"  
To: "Dennis C." , cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2013 6:07:13 PM 
Subject: Re: Stus-List 4200 vs Lifeseal 

I have used both Lifeseal and Lifecaulk and both are great. One thing I 
especially like is that they do not cure in the tube after opening (or cure 
much slower than others). Dave 



On Mar 13, 2013, at 3:19 PM, Dennis C. wrote: 





FYI, I've just about stopped using 4200. Seems a lot of the tubes I've gotten 
were partially cured. 

I like Lifeseal better. Seems to adhere to more things better. 


Dennis C. 
Touche' 35-1 #83 
Mandeville, LA 
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Re: Stus-List boat insurance

[Colin Kilgour]

For basic coastal coverage,  BoatUS or any of the others mentioned
will do fine.

For more esoteric coverage (offshore,  hurricane season, charter,
funky cruising grounds) you may need more of a specialist.  I've
kicked around a few but have landed with IMIS (they advertise in all
the sailing mags). No claims experience yet (touch wood), but they can
get you the cover you need.

Cheers
Colin


On 3/14/13, Indigo  wrote:
> ACE have always treated me well - small premium increases and payout for the
> one claim I made
>
> Jonathan
> Indigo 35iii - Southport
>
> --
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> Trade Show Services
> Cell: (203) 395 0225
> www.tradeshowservicesusa.com
>
> On Mar 14, 2013, at 0:23, Alan Bergen  wrote:
>
>> Call BoatUS.  They'll give you a quote, and if it's a good quote, you can
>> become a member and get their insurance.  Personally, I wouldn't get
>> insurance from anyone who doesn't specialize in boat insurance.  You want
>> to make sure you have adequate coverage:  hull, liability, fuel spill,
>> etc.  If you shop for the lowest price, you might also get the lowest
>> service when you need them.
>>
>> Alan Bergen
>> C&C 35 Mk III Thirsty
>> Rose City YC
>> Portland, OR
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Re: Stus-List boat insurance

[David Knecht]

I have gotten responses from BoatUS and Gowrie and both include coverage to 
have the boat pulled in the event of a hurricane and both cover hurricane 
damage.  Gowrie was significantly cheaper!  Dave
 
On Mar 14, 2013, at 6:43 PM, Colin Kilgour wrote:

> For basic coastal coverage,  BoatUS or any of the others mentioned
> will do fine.
> 
> For more esoteric coverage (offshore,  hurricane season, charter,
> funky cruising grounds) you may need more of a specialist.  I've
> kicked around a few but have landed with IMIS (they advertise in all
> the sailing mags). No claims experience yet (touch wood), but they can
> get you the cover you need.
> 
> Cheers
> Colin
> 
> 
> On 3/14/13, Indigo  wrote:
>> ACE have always treated me well - small premium increases and payout for the
>> one claim I made
>> 
>> Jonathan
>> Indigo 35iii - Southport
>> 
>> --
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>> Trade Show Services
>> Cell: (203) 395 0225
>> www.tradeshowservicesusa.com
>> 
>> On Mar 14, 2013, at 0:23, Alan Bergen  wrote:
>> 
>>> Call BoatUS.  They'll give you a quote, and if it's a good quote, you can
>>> become a member and get their insurance.  Personally, I wouldn't get
>>> insurance from anyone who doesn't specialize in boat insurance.  You want
>>> to make sure you have adequate coverage:  hull, liability, fuel spill,
>>> etc.  If you shop for the lowest price, you might also get the lowest
>>> service when you need them.
>>> 
>>> Alan Bergen
>>> C&C 35 Mk III Thirsty
>>> Rose City YC
>>> Portland, OR
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Stus-List Re: mainsheet blocks for 29'

[Joseph Sisson]

I upgraded the mainsheet system on my 35-2 to an "Easymatic 2" system which I 
purchased from Holland Marine.
Go to http://www.hollandmarine.com and look at pages 307-309.
It is an expensive system and perhaps if you have experience at rigging you 
could build the system yourself but for me with my limited experience I went 
for the pre-assembled system.
By pulling both lines you can sheet the main in quickly and then pull only one 
line (either one works) to increase the mechanical advantage and sheet the main 
in further.
It works great and is a joy to sail.   Much better than the system used by the 
previous owner.
I sail single-handed so this system allows me to sheet the main from behind the 
wheel.

Joseph Sisson
s/v Silent Runner
1975 35-2   Hull #350
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Re: Stus-List mainsheet blocks for 29'

[Ian Matthew]

Tim & John,

Here is my setup.  Only drawback is that it doesn't work well
single-handed.  But as I only race fully crewed, it's not a problem for me.

Here are the photo's (Don't look at the varnish on the companionway - job
for a little later when it gets a bit warmer and less likely to rain!)
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/16196194/Siento_el_Viento_Traveler_setup/2013-03-14%2012.49.13.jpg
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/16196194/Siento_el_Viento_Traveler_setup/2013-03-14%2012.49.35.jpg
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/16196194/Siento_el_Viento_Traveler_setup/2013-03-14%2012.49.45.jpg
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/16196194/Siento_el_Viento_Traveler_setup/2013-03-14%2012.49.52.jpg
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/16196194/Siento_el_Viento_Traveler_setup/2013-03-14%2012.49.59.jpg
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/16196194/Siento_el_Viento_Traveler_setup/2013-03-14%2012.50.11.jpg
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/16196194/Siento_el_Viento_Traveler_setup/2013-03-14%2012.50.16.jpg

Yes - there is a lot of mainsheet, but again it isn't much of a problem.

Ian



On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 12:03 PM,  wrote:

> Ian:
> I would very much like to see your set up, as well.  Not at all pleased
> with the present traveler system on my 29-2.
>
>  John McLaughlin
> "Falcon"
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Ian Matthew 
> To: cnc-list 
> Sent: Thu, Mar 14, 2013 2:15 pm
> Subject: Re: Stus-List mainsheet blocks for 29'
>
>  Tim,
>
>  I'll try and visit my boat this lunchtime and I'll take some photos for
> you.  I replaced the original traveller track with a harken track and car
> (making sure I bought the compatible both hole pitch rather than the new
> one - I bought it from Mauri Pro and it fitted the old holes perfectly)
>
>  I have a double sheet system with a trim setup - you'll see in the
> photos.  This allows me to flatten the main really hard - very important in
> sailing San Francisco Bay.
>
>  Ian
>
>
> On Wednesday, March 13, 2013, tim wrote:
>
>>  Hi,
>> ** **
>>I’m in the process of replacing the traveler, mainsheet blocks on my
>> 29’.  Think I still have original equipment and is in the cockpit.  Can
>> others provide me with types of blocks they use or recommendations?  I
>> viewed the Harken site, with recommendation a 6:1 triple block system
>> (hexratchet at the base).  A local sailmaker stated these fail quite often
>> and have a lot of friction due to the twist.  He recommended a 5:1 system.
>> 
>> ** **
>>Can others provide suggested setups?  Look forward to guidance.
>> ** **
>> Thanks,
>> ** **
>> Tim Welsh
>> Sly Fox
>> Mallets Bay, VT
>> 29’ MK1 (1976)
>>
>
>
> --
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> "Siento el Viento" C&C 29 mk 1
> San Francisco Bay
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Re: Stus-List C&C30 mast step (and C&C24 for sale)

[Gary Nylander]

A number of us have been through this. Looking at the picture, I can see 
that the aluminum base for the mast to sit in is different than the one on 
my '80 - much deeper. Mine also has a hole in the 'cup' which drains it 
out - into the bilge. I also installed a pump down there to keep things dry.


The fix is: either rebuild or replace the supports that go across the 
bilge - I have three - each made up of two pieces of 3/4 ply bonded together 
with fiberglass. But. they are not sealed on the bottom and thus if 
there is water in there, they are subject to rot.


One lister filled the whole area with epoxy - with appropriate drain 
holes


I filled the top of the cross pieces with G-Flex as the plywood was just a 
little soft. It's waterproof - I drilled a bunch of holes in each and put 
little dams around the ply to build it up to the level I wanted. Put some 
teak cross stringers on top and reinstalled the oak block the little metal 
shoe sits on. Made sure the shoe would drain into the bilge. The block 
should be just a little proud of the sole (mine is teak and holly ply).


Gary
30-1 #593
- Original Message - 
From: "Paul Baker" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, March 09, 2013 12:07 AM
Subject: Stus-List C&C30 mast step (and C&C24 for sale)



Hi Folks,
I had a look at a C&C30 the other day, the mast step is of mild concern. 
I thought I read that C&C replaced the wood with aluminium fairly early in 
the production to prevent it rotting through.  The mast step appears to be 
a woody on this one, I am guessing this looks like a rotter, or is this 
just a cosmetic piece?  Or is the step underneath and is fine?  The boat 
is a 1976.

http://s181.beta.photobucket.com/user/Scooby-FCCUK/media/2013-03-06121620_zpsc1ea6c83.jpg.html
Any advice welcome.
Cheers,
Paul

PS. Anyone want to buy a nice C&C24?

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Re: Stus-List 4200 vs Lifeseal

[Ronald B. Frerker]

What's the difference between Lifeseal & Lifecaulk?RonWild CheriC&C 30STL

--- On Thu, 3/14/13, Chuck S  wrote:

From: Chuck S 
Subject: Re: Stus-List 4200 vs Lifeseal
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Date: Thursday, March 14, 2013, 5:32 PM

#yiv995251790 p {margin:0;}I started using Lifecaulk about 10 years ago when I 
first bought our boat.  Tried 4200 3 years ago when I added jam cleats and 
found the adhesion much stronger.  Life caulk takes days longer to cure.  I was 
working alone and was so careful to place the 4200 under the screw head and 
under the cleat base and in the chamfered hole.  The next day I went sailing 
and after returning to the dock, noticed I hadn't placed nuts on the screws.  
The 4200 held it tight to the deck.  This camcleat had four bolts through the 
deck, w no nuts.  Guess the bolts took the shear force and the 4200 kept it 
together enough to stay put.  I added the fender washers & nuts and had my son 
hold the bolt still, while I tightened the aircraft nuts from underneath.  No 
leaks.

After a few months I tried to squeeze caulk out of a partially used tube of 
4200.   I found it had cured in the nozzle but was still pliable in the tube.  
I drilled the nozzle open with a 1/4" drill and found it squeezed out just 
fine.   Good stuff, though expensive.

Chuck
Resolute
1990 C&C 34R
Atlantic City, NJ

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Re: Stus-List mainsheet blocks for 29'

[Joel Aronson]

Is the traveler control line a continuous line?

Joel Aronson


On Mar 14, 2013, at 11:07 PM, Ian Matthew  wrote:

Tim & John,

Here is my setup.  Only drawback is that it doesn't work well
single-handed.  But as I only race fully crewed, it's not a problem for me.

Here are the photo's (Don't look at the varnish on the companionway - job
for a little later when it gets a bit warmer and less likely to rain!)
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/16196194/Siento_el_Viento_Traveler_setup/2013-03-14%2012.49.13.jpg
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/16196194/Siento_el_Viento_Traveler_setup/2013-03-14%2012.49.35.jpg
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/16196194/Siento_el_Viento_Traveler_setup/2013-03-14%2012.49.45.jpg
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/16196194/Siento_el_Viento_Traveler_setup/2013-03-14%2012.49.52.jpg
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/16196194/Siento_el_Viento_Traveler_setup/2013-03-14%2012.49.59.jpg
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/16196194/Siento_el_Viento_Traveler_setup/2013-03-14%2012.50.11.jpg
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/16196194/Siento_el_Viento_Traveler_setup/2013-03-14%2012.50.16.jpg

Yes - there is a lot of mainsheet, but again it isn't much of a problem.

Ian



On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 12:03 PM,  wrote:

> Ian:
> I would very much like to see your set up, as well.  Not at all pleased
> with the present traveler system on my 29-2.
>
>  John McLaughlin
> "Falcon"
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Ian Matthew 
> To: cnc-list 
> Sent: Thu, Mar 14, 2013 2:15 pm
> Subject: Re: Stus-List mainsheet blocks for 29'
>
>  Tim,
>
>  I'll try and visit my boat this lunchtime and I'll take some photos for
> you.  I replaced the original traveller track with a harken track and car
> (making sure I bought the compatible both hole pitch rather than the new
> one - I bought it from Mauri Pro and it fitted the old holes perfectly)
>
>  I have a double sheet system with a trim setup - you'll see in the
> photos.  This allows me to flatten the main really hard - very important in
> sailing San Francisco Bay.
>
>  Ian
>
>
> On Wednesday, March 13, 2013, tim wrote:
>
>>  Hi,
>> ** **
>>I’m in the process of replacing the traveler, mainsheet blocks on my
>> 29’.  Think I still have original equipment and is in the cockpit.  Can
>> others provide me with types of blocks they use or recommendations?  I
>> viewed the Harken site, with recommendation a 6:1 triple block system
>> (hexratchet at the base).  A local sailmaker stated these fail quite often
>> and have a lot of friction due to the twist.  He recommended a 5:1 system.
>> 
>> ** **
>>Can others provide suggested setups?  Look forward to guidance.
>> ** **
>> Thanks,
>> ** **
>> Tim Welsh
>> Sly Fox
>> Mallets Bay, VT
>> 29’ MK1 (1976)
>>
>
>
> --
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> "Siento el Viento" C&C 29 mk 1
> San Francisco Bay
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Re: Stus-List 4200 vs Lifeseal

[Dennis C.]

Life Calk is polysulfide.  LifeSeal is a polyurethane/silicone blend.  For what 
to use where visit and bookmark this page:

 < http://boatlife.com/media/img/Boatlife-Sealant-Chart-20121220.jpg>

Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA





>
> From: Ronald B. Frerker 
>To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
>Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2013 11:07 PM
>Subject: Re: Stus-List 4200 vs Lifeseal
> 
>
>What's the difference between Lifeseal & Lifecaulk?
>Ron
>Wild Cheri
>C&C 30
>STL
>
>
>--- On Thu, 3/14/13, Chuck S  wrote:
>
>
>>From: Chuck S 
>>Subject: Re: Stus-List 4200 vs Lifeseal
>>To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>>Date: Thursday, March 14, 2013, 5:32 PM
>>
>>
>>I started using Lifecaulk about 10 years ago when I first bought our boat.  
>>Tried 4200 3 years ago when I added jam cleats and found the adhesion much 
>>stronger.  Life caulk takes days longer to cure.  I was working alone and was 
>>so careful to place the 4200 under the screw head and under the cleat base 
>>and in the chamfered hole.  The next day I went sailing and after returning 
>>to the dock, noticed I hadn't placed nuts on the screws.  The 4200 held it 
>>tight to the deck.  This camcleat had four bolts through the deck, w no nuts. 
>> Guess the bolts took the shear force and the 4200 kept it together enough to 
>>stay put.  I added the fender washers & nuts and had my son hold the bolt 
>>still, while I tightened the aircraft nuts from underneath.  No leaks.
>>
>>After a few months I tried to squeeze caulk out of a partially used tube of 
>>4200.   I found it had cured in the nozzle but was still pliable in the tube. 
>> I drilled the nozzle open with a 1/4" drill and found it squeezed out just 
>>fine.   Good stuff, though expensive.
>>
>>
>>Chuck
>>Resolute
>>1990
 C&C 34R
>>Atlantic City, NJ
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 
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Re: Stus-List 4200 vs Lifeseal

[Joel Aronson]

The caulk sticks to Starboard. Silicone does not.

Joel Aronson


On Mar 15, 2013, at 12:38 AM, "Dennis C."  wrote:

Life Calk is polysulfide.  LifeSeal is a polyurethane/silicone blend.  For
what to use where visit and bookmark this page:

 < http://boatlife.com/media/img/Boatlife-Sealant-Chart-20121220.jpg>

Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA


  --
*From:* Ronald B. Frerker 
*To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
*Sent:* Thursday, March 14, 2013 11:07 PM
*Subject:* Re: Stus-List 4200 vs Lifeseal

What's the difference between Lifeseal & Lifecaulk?
Ron
Wild Cheri
C&C 30
STL


--- On *Thu, 3/14/13, Chuck S * wrote:


From: Chuck S 
Subject: Re: Stus-List 4200 vs Lifeseal
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Date: Thursday, March 14, 2013, 5:32 PM

I started using Lifecaulk about 10 years ago when I first bought our boat.
Tried 4200 3 years ago when I added jam cleats and found the adhesion much
stronger.  Life caulk takes days longer to cure.  I was working alone and
was so careful to place the 4200 under the screw head and under the cleat
base and in the chamfered hole.  The next day I went sailing and after
returning to the dock, noticed I hadn't placed nuts on the screws.  The
4200 held it tight to the deck.  This camcleat had four bolts through the
deck, w no nuts.  Guess the bolts took the shear force and the 4200 kept it
together enough to stay put.  I added the fender washers & nuts and had my
son hold the bolt still, while I tightened the aircraft nuts from
underneath.  No leaks.

After a few months I tried to squeeze caulk out of a partially used tube of
4200.   I found it had cured in the nozzle but was still pliable in the
tube.  I drilled the nozzle open with a 1/4" drill and found it squeezed
out just fine.   Good stuff, though expensive.

Chuck
Resolute
1990 C&C 34R
Atlantic City, NJ
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Re: Stus-List mainsheet blocks for 29'

[Ian Matthew]

Yes it is - makes it easy to release the leeward traveler line when you
tack.

Ian


On Thursday, March 14, 2013, Joel Aronson wrote:

> Is the traveler control line a continuous line?
>
> Joel Aronson
>
>
> On Mar 14, 2013, at 11:07 PM, Ian Matthew 
> wrote:
>
> Tim & John,
>
> Here is my setup.  Only drawback is that it doesn't work well
> single-handed.  But as I only race fully crewed, it's not a problem for me.
>
> Here are the photo's (Don't look at the varnish on the companionway - job
> for a little later when it gets a bit warmer and less likely to rain!)
>
> https://dl.dropbox.com/u/16196194/Siento_el_Viento_Traveler_setup/2013-03-14%2012.49.13.jpg
>
> https://dl.dropbox.com/u/16196194/Siento_el_Viento_Traveler_setup/2013-03-14%2012.49.35.jpg
>
> https://dl.dropbox.com/u/16196194/Siento_el_Viento_Traveler_setup/2013-03-14%2012.49.45.jpg
>
> https://dl.dropbox.com/u/16196194/Siento_el_Viento_Traveler_setup/2013-03-14%2012.49.52.jpg
>
> https://dl.dropbox.com/u/16196194/Siento_el_Viento_Traveler_setup/2013-03-14%2012.49.59.jpg
>
> https://dl.dropbox.com/u/16196194/Siento_el_Viento_Traveler_setup/2013-03-14%2012.50.11.jpg
>
> https://dl.dropbox.com/u/16196194/Siento_el_Viento_Traveler_setup/2013-03-14%2012.50.16.jpg
>
>  Yes - there is a lot of mainsheet, but again it isn't much of a problem.
>
> Ian
>
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 12:03 PM,  wrote:
>
> Ian:
> I would very much like to see your set up, as well.  Not at all pleased
> with the present traveler system on my 29-2.
>
>  John McLaughlin
> "Falcon"
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Ian Matthew 
> To: cnc-list 
> Sent: Thu, Mar 14, 2013 2:15 pm
> Subject: Re: Stus-List mainsheet blocks for 29'
>
>  Tim,
>
>  I'll try and visit my boat this lunchtime and I'll take some photos for
> you.  I replaced the original traveller track with a harken track and car
> (making sure I bought the compatible both hole pitch rather than the new
> one - I bought it from Mauri Pro and it fitted the old holes perfectly)
>
>  I have a double sheet system with a trim setup - you'll see in the
> photos.  This allows me to flatten the main really hard - very important in
> sailing San Francisco Bay.
>
>  Ian
>
>
> On Wednesday, March 13, 2013, tim wrote:
>
>  Hi,
> ** **
>I’m in the process of replacing the traveler, mainsheet blocks on my
> 29’.  Think I still have original equipment and is in the cockpit.  Can
> others provide me with types of blocks they use or recommendations?  I
> viewed the Harken site, with recommendation a 6:1 triple block system
> (hexratchet at the base).  A local sailmaker stated these fail quite often
> and have a lot of friction due to the twist.  He recommended a 5:1 system.
> 
> ** **
>
>

-- 
Ian Matthew
"Siento el Viento" C&C 29 mk 1
San Francisco Bay

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