Re: [chirp_users] Programing Cable Drivers

2023-05-31 Thread Amnon Zohar
Sometime the cable needs an older driver to perform.

בתאריך יום ג׳, 30 במאי 2023, 21:16, מאת Stephen Hersey ‏:

> This bit might not be obvious; if your operating system recognizes the
> cable as a serial COM port device, that's all you need on the OS side.
> After that, it's a matter of telling CHIRP what radio and what COM port to
> use.
>
> Steve
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Re: [chirp_users] Programing Cable Drivers

2023-05-31 Thread Tony Ling
That is only true of Prolific drivers under windows.

On Wed, 31 May 2023 at 09:33, Amnon Zohar  wrote:

> Sometime the cable needs an older driver to perform.
>
> בתאריך יום ג׳, 30 במאי 2023, 21:16, מאת Stephen Hersey ‏<
> n1xnx...@gmail.com>:
>
>> This bit might not be obvious; if your operating system recognizes the
>> cable as a serial COM port device, that's all you need on the OS side.
>> After that, it's a matter of telling CHIRP what radio and what COM port to
>> use.
>>
>> Steve
>>
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>> n1xnx...@gmail.com
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>> -- Clarke's Third Law
>> "Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced."
>> -- Benford's Corollary
>> "Any sufficiently advanced magic is indistinguishable from technology."
>> -- Charles Stross, *Dead Lies Dreaming*
>> “It's still magic even if you know how it's done.” -- Terry Pratchett
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Re: [chirp_users] Programing Cable Drivers

2023-05-31 Thread Stuart Longland VK4MSL via chirp_users
On 31/5/23 01:54, Jeffrey Vian wrote:
> What I do on linux when I have a new device with no drivers is I 
> connect it, then use the 'lspci' command to find out the info 
> regarding the chipset it is using. Using (lspci -nnv) gives more 
> detailed info.  This info is shown in the form {:].  Mac
> uses a similar command if not exactly the same.
> 
> Once I have the chipset ID then I can search for the specific needed
>  drivers.

Worth noting: `lspci` will *not* help you if your device is USB, as the
name suggests, it "lists" things that are on the PCI bus.

While PCI _can_ exist on external sockets in the form of Thunderbolt
(including over HDMI and USB-C), most serial programming cables I've
seen are USB.  Use `lsusb` for that.

Regards,
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Re: [chirp_users] Uv82hp

2023-05-31 Thread Jim Unroe
On Tue, May 30, 2023 at 9:23 PM charlesdland  wrote:
>
> Radio won't xmit. Just gets a beep like it is locked out of xmit. Uhf tx 
> enabled (checked) in chirp. Busy channel lockout disabled. Same problem in 
> vfo and mr modes. Ideas??

Which version of CHIRP are you using? Did you happen to upload a CHIRP
Radio Image (*.img) file that came from a different UV-82HP?

Jim KC9HI
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Re: [chirp_users] Uv82hp

2023-05-31 Thread Jim Unroe
On Tue, May 30, 2023 at 10:18 PM K0LNY  wrote:
>
> Hi Charles,
> Perhaps it got locked.
> Try holding down the button below the zero.
> HTH.
>
> Glenn

Hi Glenn,

This is a good thought, except the keypad lock only locks the keys on
the front of the radio. It has no effect on the [PTT] button or side
keys.

Jim KC9HI
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Re: [chirp_users] Programing Cable Drivers

2023-05-31 Thread charlesdland
Programming seems to work ok. Can download from the radio, make changes and 
upload successfully. Using a.usb cable on win 10 with latest chirp update.  
Just no xmit. Receive works ok. Will try downloafing from another radio same 
model and uploading to this one and see if I get lucky.
 Original message From: Tony Ling  Date: 
5/31/23  5:44 AM  (GMT-06:00) To: Discussion of CHIRP 
 Subject: Re: [chirp_users] Programing 
Cable Drivers That is only true of Prolific drivers under windows.On Wed, 31 
May 2023 at 09:33, Amnon Zohar  wrote:Sometime the cable 
needs an older driver to perform.בתאריך יום ג׳, 30 במאי 2023, 21:16, מאת 
Stephen Hersey ‏:This bit might not be obvious; if your 
operating system recognizes the cable as a serial COM port device, that's all 
you need on the OS side. After that, it's a matter of telling CHIRP what radio 
and what COM port to use.Steve-- Steve Hersey N1XNX n1xnx...@gmail.com-"Any 
sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." -- Clarke's 
Third Law"Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently 
advanced." -- Benford's Corollary"Any sufficiently advanced magic is 
indistinguishable from technology." -- Charles Stross, Dead Lies Dreaming“It's 
still magic even if you know how it's done.” -- Terry Pratchett
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[chirp_users] New chirp-next build

2023-05-31 Thread donotreply
Greetings,

A new build of CHIRP-next is available. This includes changes made directly to 
the tree since yesterday and may include additional features, bug fixes, etc. 
Unless you have a reason not to, we recommend using the latest build of 
CHIRP-next at all times.

You can get it from here:

http://trac.chirp.danplanet.com/chirp_next/

A list of changes since the last build are here:

ffc2fc7e Fix repeaterbook DV memory class and pasting DV
60c57e40 Fix id31 setting non-DVMemory in DV mode
15ae05cd Update locale file for the expand-extra work
55f27574 Fix setting extra fields on IC-V80
e589c132 Fix th9800 log when setting mem.extra
1d1a71b1 Add a special column type for boolean extras
1b4f00e6 Improve column headers for extra fields
e5671f41 Support enabling/disabling mem.extra expansion
ac9d3e31 Expand mem.extra into columns

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Re: [chirp_users] Programing Cable Drivers

2023-05-31 Thread Jeffrey Vian
On May 31, 2023, 5:50 AM Stuart Longland VK4MSL wrote:
>Worth noting: `lspci` will *not* help you if your device is USB, as the
>name suggests, it "lists" things that are on the PCI bus.

>While PCI _can_ exist on external sockets in the form of Thunderbolt
>(including over HDMI and USB-C), most serial programming cables I've
>seen are USB.  Use `lsusb` for that.

I agree completely.  I misspoke when I used lspci and actually meant
'lsusb'.
The device is after all a USB device.

Thank you very much for the correction.

Jeff
KI7GJG



On Wed, May 31, 2023 at 8:08 AM charlesdland  wrote:

> Programming seems to work ok. Can download from the radio, make changes
> and upload successfully. Using a.usb cable on win 10 with latest chirp
> update.  Just no xmit. Receive works ok. Will try downloafing from another
> radio same model and uploading to this one and see if I get lucky.
>
>  Original message 
> From: Tony Ling 
> Date: 5/31/23 5:44 AM (GMT-06:00)
> To: Discussion of CHIRP 
> Subject: Re: [chirp_users] Programing Cable Drivers
>
> That is only true of Prolific drivers under windows.
>
> On Wed, 31 May 2023 at 09:33, Amnon Zohar  wrote:
>
>> Sometime the cable needs an older driver to perform.
>>
>> בתאריך יום ג׳, 30 במאי 2023, 21:16, מאת Stephen Hersey ‏<
>> n1xnx...@gmail.com>:
>>
>>> This bit might not be obvious; if your operating system recognizes the
>>> cable as a serial COM port device, that's all you need on the OS side.
>>> After that, it's a matter of telling CHIRP what radio and what COM port to
>>> use.
>>>
>>> Steve
>>>
>>> --
>>> Steve Hersey N1XNX
>>> n1xnx...@gmail.com
>>> -
>>> "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."
>>> -- Clarke's Third Law
>>> "Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced."
>>> -- Benford's Corollary
>>> "Any sufficiently advanced magic is indistinguishable from technology."
>>> -- Charles Stross, *Dead Lies Dreaming*
>>> “It's still magic even if you know how it's done.” -- Terry Pratchett
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Re: [chirp_users] Uv82hp

2023-05-31 Thread K0LNY
I wonder if there is a key sequence for a full reset.
Like hold down some specific buttons while powering it on.
Glenn
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From: "Jim Unroe" 
To: "Discussion of CHIRP" 
Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2023 6:11 AM
Subject: Re: [chirp_users] Uv82hp


> On Tue, May 30, 2023 at 10:18 PM K0LNY  wrote:
>>
>> Hi Charles,
>> Perhaps it got locked.
>> Try holding down the button below the zero.
>> HTH.
>>
>> Glenn
>
> Hi Glenn,
>
> This is a good thought, except the keypad lock only locks the keys on
> the front of the radio. It has no effect on the [PTT] button or side
> keys.
>
> Jim KC9HI
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Re: [chirp_users] Programing Cable Drivers

2023-05-31 Thread K0LNY
Maybe the fields aren't marked correctly.
Perhaps try uploading a CVS from another Baofeng from someone on the list.
I use the same CSV file in all my radios, usually different brands accept the 
same fields.
But I wouldn't upload an IMG from a different model, just the CSV.
Glenn
  - Original Message - 
  From: charlesdland 
  To: Discussion of CHIRP 
  Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2023 8:06 AM
  Subject: Re: [chirp_users] Programing Cable Drivers


  Programming seems to work ok. Can download from the radio, make changes and 
upload successfully. Using a.usb cable on win 10 with latest chirp update.  
Just no xmit. Receive works ok. Will try downloafing from another radio same 
model and uploading to this one and see if I get lucky.


   Original message 
  From: Tony Ling  
  Date: 5/31/23 5:44 AM (GMT-06:00) 
  To: Discussion of CHIRP  
  Subject: Re: [chirp_users] Programing Cable Drivers 


  That is only true of Prolific drivers under windows.


  On Wed, 31 May 2023 at 09:33, Amnon Zohar  wrote:

Sometime the cable needs an older driver to perform.


בתאריך יום ג׳, 30 במאי 2023, 21:16, מאת Stephen Hersey 
‏:

  This bit might not be obvious; if your operating system recognizes the 
cable as a serial COM port device, that's all you need on the OS side. After 
that, it's a matter of telling CHIRP what radio and what COM port to use.


  Steve


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Re: [chirp_users] Programing Cable Drivers

2023-05-31 Thread Deb Cuddhy
I have no idea what my laptop Microsoft 10 recognizes as my port. Is there
a way to know?

On Tue, May 30, 2023 at 2:14 PM Stephen Hersey  wrote:

> This bit might not be obvious; if your operating system recognizes the
> cable as a serial COM port device, that's all you need on the OS side.
> After that, it's a matter of telling CHIRP what radio and what COM port to
> use.
>
> Steve
>
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> Clarke's Third Law
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Re: [chirp_users] Programing Cable Drivers

2023-05-31 Thread Deb Cuddhy
I have a local person I found at a club in Monmouth Ocean and he's working
on something about the drivers.
We are a volunteer group that trains to help the township. They paid for
our licenses and we got free radios
and don't know how to use them. Tad frustrating. I'm not technical. I can't
join clubs if I can't even use the thing!
Thanks to all of you.
Deb

On Wed, May 31, 2023 at 4:33 AM Amnon Zohar  wrote:

> Sometime the cable needs an older driver to perform.
>
> בתאריך יום ג׳, 30 במאי 2023, 21:16, מאת Stephen Hersey ‏<
> n1xnx...@gmail.com>:
>
>> This bit might not be obvious; if your operating system recognizes the
>> cable as a serial COM port device, that's all you need on the OS side.
>> After that, it's a matter of telling CHIRP what radio and what COM port to
>> use.
>>
>> Steve
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Re: [chirp_users] Programing Cable Drivers

2023-05-31 Thread Stephen Hersey
The Windows Device Manager (you may need to open the Control Panel and
search for that item) will give you a handy list of COM ports. Bring up
Device Manager, note the COM ports listed, plug the cable in, refresh the
DM display if needed, and you should see it, either under COM ports or as a
change in the list of USB items.

On Wed, May 31, 2023 at 11:13 AM Deb Cuddhy  wrote:

> I have no idea what my laptop Microsoft 10 recognizes as my port. Is there
> a way to know?
>
> On Tue, May 30, 2023 at 2:14 PM Stephen Hersey  wrote:
>
>> This bit might not be obvious; if your operating system recognizes the
>> cable as a serial COM port device, that's all you need on the OS side.
>> After that, it's a matter of telling CHIRP what radio and what COM port to
>> use.
>>
>> Steve
>>
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>> -- Clarke's Third Law
>> "Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced."
>> -- Benford's Corollary
>> "Any sufficiently advanced magic is indistinguishable from technology."
>> -- Charles Stross, *Dead Lies Dreaming*
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Re: [chirp_users] Uv82hp

2023-05-31 Thread Jim Unroe
On Wed, May 31, 2023 at 11:01 AM K0LNY  wrote:
>
> I wonder if there is a key sequence for a full reset.
> Like hold down some specific buttons while powering it on.
> Glenn

The UV-82HP has something like three different memory layouts. They
are not compatible. So uploading a CHIRP Radio Images (*.img) file
from a different radio using an older version of CHIRP that didn't
protect for this could cause unwanted side effects. Some have been
known to be; 1 the radio won't scan, 2 the radio won't receive unless
the [MONI] button is pressed, 3 the radio won't TX.

If this is the case, which I am waiting for a reply to find out, then
there is a special method that can perform a full upload of a
"compatible" image to correct the problem that was created by
previously uploading an "incompatible" image.

CHIRP now tries to protect from this but there is nothing preventing
Baofeng from changing the memory layout in another place in the
future. This is why I no longer recommend swapping images between
Baofeng radios (even if the model and firmware versions are the same).
The only safe way is to download from both radios to open a tab for
each radios. Copy-and-paste the channels between tabs as needed and
finally upload each tab back to the radio that created it.

Jim KC9HI
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Re: [chirp_users] Programing Cable Drivers

2023-05-31 Thread K0LNY
Hi Deb,
If you open device manager, and plug in your cable, and open up ports com and 
lpt and then unplug your cable, you will see it disappear, and you can plug it 
back in to note the com port number.
Glenn
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  Subject: Re: [chirp_users] Programing Cable Drivers


  I have no idea what my laptop Microsoft 10 recognizes as my port. Is there a 
way to know?


  On Tue, May 30, 2023 at 2:14 PM Stephen Hersey  wrote:

This bit might not be obvious; if your operating system recognizes the 
cable as a serial COM port device, that's all you need on the OS side. After 
that, it's a matter of telling CHIRP what radio and what COM port to use.


Steve


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Re: [chirp_users] Programing Cable Drivers

2023-05-31 Thread Dan Smith via chirp_users
> The Windows Device Manager (you may need to open the Control Panel and search 
> for that item) will give you a handy list of COM ports. Bring up Device 
> Manager, note the COM ports listed, plug the cable in, refresh the DM display 
> if needed, and you should see it, either under COM ports or as a change in 
> the list of USB items.

This only works for Windows, and can be confusing if you aren't familiar with 
device-manager or have lots of ports.

CHIRP-next has a function for this built in now. In the download box, choose 
the "Help Me" option in the port drop-down and it will guide you through this 
procedure from right inside chirp. Works on all platforms and will pre-select 
the port for you if it is able to determine the right one. I recommend people 
use (and suggest this procedure to newbies) instead of the device-manager one 
unless there's a specific reason otherwise.

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Re: [chirp_users] New chirp-next build

2023-05-31 Thread Deb Cuddhy
thanks, will try.

On Wed, May 31, 2023 at 9:44 AM  wrote:

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> A new build of CHIRP-next is available. This includes changes made
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> http://trac.chirp.danplanet.com/chirp_next/
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> A list of changes since the last build are here:
>
> ffc2fc7e Fix repeaterbook DV memory class and pasting DV
> 60c57e40 Fix id31 setting non-DVMemory in DV mode
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> e589c132 Fix th9800 log when setting mem.extra
> 1d1a71b1 Add a special column type for boolean extras
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Re: [chirp_users] Programing Cable Drivers

2023-05-31 Thread Stephen Hersey
Cool! I didn't know about that feature; I'll be using it myself. Thanks!

On Wed, May 31, 2023 at 11:34 AM Dan Smith via chirp_users <
chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com> wrote:

> > The Windows Device Manager (you may need to open the Control Panel and
> search for that item) will give you a handy list of COM ports. Bring up
> Device Manager, note the COM ports listed, plug the cable in, refresh the
> DM display if needed, and you should see it, either under COM ports or as a
> change in the list of USB items.
>
> This only works for Windows, and can be confusing if you aren't familiar
> with device-manager or have lots of ports.
>
> CHIRP-next has a function for this built in now. In the download box,
> choose the "Help Me" option in the port drop-down and it will guide you
> through this procedure from right inside chirp. Works on all platforms and
> will pre-select the port for you if it is able to determine the right one.
> I recommend people use (and suggest this procedure to newbies) instead of
> the device-manager one unless there's a specific reason otherwise.
>
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Re: [chirp_users] Programing Cable Drivers

2023-05-31 Thread Amnon Zohar
Correct

בתאריך יום ד׳, 31 במאי 2023, 13:46, מאת Tony Ling ‏:

> That is only true of Prolific drivers under windows.
>
> On Wed, 31 May 2023 at 09:33, Amnon Zohar  wrote:
>
>> Sometime the cable needs an older driver to perform.
>>
>> בתאריך יום ג׳, 30 במאי 2023, 21:16, מאת Stephen Hersey ‏<
>> n1xnx...@gmail.com>:
>>
>>> This bit might not be obvious; if your operating system recognizes the
>>> cable as a serial COM port device, that's all you need on the OS side.
>>> After that, it's a matter of telling CHIRP what radio and what COM port to
>>> use.
>>>
>>> Steve
>>>
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Re: [chirp_users] Uv82hp

2023-05-31 Thread charlesdland
There is a reset procedure on youtube. Press "A' xmit, monitor andsomething 
else and power on. This is for newer radios to go out of band. Did help my 
problem.
 Original message From: Jim Unroe  Date: 
5/31/23  10:20 AM  (GMT-06:00) To: Discussion of CHIRP 
 Subject: Re: [chirp_users] Uv82hp On Wed, 
May 31, 2023 at 11:01 AM K0LNY  wrote:>> I wonder if there 
is a key sequence for a full reset.> Like hold down some specific buttons while 
powering it on.> GlennThe UV-82HP has something like three different memory 
layouts. Theyare not compatible. So uploading a CHIRP Radio Images (*.img) 
filefrom a different radio using an older version of CHIRP that didn'tprotect 
for this could cause unwanted side effects. Some have beenknown to be; 1 the 
radio won't scan, 2 the radio won't receive unlessthe [MONI] button is pressed, 
3 the radio won't TX.If this is the case, which I am waiting for a reply to 
find out, thenthere is a special method that can perform a full upload of 
a"compatible" image to correct the problem that was created bypreviously 
uploading an "incompatible" image.CHIRP now tries to protect from this but 
there is nothing preventingBaofeng from changing the memory layout in another 
place in thefuture. This is why I no longer recommend swapping images 
betweenBaofeng radios (even if the model and firmware versions are the 
same).The only safe way is to download from both radios to open a tab foreach 
radios. Copy-and-paste the channels between tabs as needed andfinally upload 
each tab back to the radio that created it.Jim 
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