[CentOS] How to get additional packages? How secure is Yum?

2008-07-21 Thread Manuel Reimer
Hello,

I'm coming from Slackware and I'm searching for another distribution to run on 
my desktop and in near future also on a server.

The *top priority* for me is security!

I've test-installed CentOS on one of my test systems. So far anything went OK. 
After trying a bit, I would like to ask some questions:

- What is the suggested way to get *secure and trusted* additional packages? I 
don't want packages packaged by "someone" who doesn't have the required 
experience and who doesn't do the packaging on a dedicated "build host" which 
isn't used for anything else than building packages.

I tried the Dag-Repository. Seems to be well done and as Dag is member of the 
CentOS-Staff, I think his packages are trustworthy. Unfortunately I'm unsure if 
they are secure. For example there is a Drupal package which is *out of date*! 
So there should either be an update or the package maybe should be removed at 
all as it is a security hole! Is there a repository available which only has 
that much packages as the maintainer is able to keep secure?

- My second question is about:
http://www.cs.arizona.edu/people/justin/packagemanagersecurity/attacks-on-package-managers.html

Yum also seems to affected, so a malicious mirror would be able to downgrade a 
package on a server where it's suggested to be *upgraded* to a patched version.

When will Yum be fixed and what is the suggested way to get Yum more secure?

Thanks in advance for any answers.

Yours

Manuel
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Re: [CentOS] How to get additional packages? How secure is Yum?

2008-07-23 Thread Manuel Reimer
"nate" wrote:
> Security is pretty important for me too. For this, and other reasons
> I never point yum to 3rd party repositories. I only run CentOS/RHEL
> on servers. I run Debian on desktops(due to larger package selection
> and still long release cycles for stable). And usually Ubuntu on
> laptops(for more current hardware support).

Debian? Didn't they have a *pretty* dangerous hold in their SSL packages just 
some weeks ago?

Especially if it gets to security, I don't think that Debian is a good 
solution. AFAIR they also got their servers hacked several times for several 
different reasons. Not very trustworthy, IMHO. And those political discussions 
*suck*! For example I want "Firefox" and *not* "Iceweasel".

> If security is a top priority, and you really want to use CentOS/RHEL,
> then don't use 3rd party packages, period. Otherwise I suggest you
> find a distro that supports the applications you wish to run directly
> or maintain them yourself.

I'm searching for a distribution for several *months* now and so far I couldn't 
find something that fits my needs...

CentOS seems to be pretty well done, but the amount of packages that is 
delivered with it definetly doesn't fit all needs. Today, I tried to set up a 
server with CentOS (VMWare server). Worked pretty well, but for installing the 
NTFS driver, I had to import the rpmforge repository...

> And of course security/stability rarely means having the latest version.

Of course.

Am I on the right list? Not very much answers, so far...

CU

Manuel
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