[CentOS] ruby193 SCL and mod_passenger
I'm interested in ruby and I try the ruby193 SCL and I want to run Ruby on Rails with Apache, so I'm searching mod_passenger for this ruby SCL version, but I found, that this package is not in this SCL. Are any other possibilities to run Ruby on Rails with Apache or why is mod_passenger not in this SCL? Thanks, Filip Bartmann ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] cachefs
Am 03.04.2014 um 04:15 schrieb Grant Street :
> On 03/04/14 12:34, Rita wrote:
>> How come I don't see any changes in the Centos 6.{3,4,5} release which
>> mention updates to cachefs?
>
> I don't know why they weren't in the release notesmaybe because it's
> a preview release? They were issues in the Kernel. If you have a look at
> the output of
>
> rpm -q kernel -changelog|less
>
> you can see a whole swag of changes in 2.6.32-405.el6
i can confirm this - RHEL 6.5 is the way to go
https://access.redhat.com/site/solutions/374553
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Re: [CentOS] ruby193 SCL and mod_passenger
Filip, I install and manage my ruby versions with chruby, instead of using packages. You can get more up-to-date versions of ruby that way. There are other ruby managers such as rbenv and rvm. For passenger, you’ll install the passenger gem and then build the Apache module from source: http://www.modrails.com/documentation/Users%20guide%20Apache.html …adam On Apr 3, 2014, at 3:38 AM, Filip Bartmann wrote: > > I'm interested in ruby and I try the ruby193 SCL and I want to run Ruby on > Rails with Apache, so I'm searching mod_passenger for this ruby SCL version, > but I found, that this package is not in this SCL. Are any other > possibilities to run Ruby on Rails with Apache or why is mod_passenger not in > this SCL? > > Thanks, > Filip Bartmann > ___ > CentOS mailing list > CentOS@centos.org > http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
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Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2014 12:17:13 +
From: Johnny Hughes
Subject: [CentOS-announce] CESA-2014:0348 Important CentOS 5 xalan-j2
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CentOS Errata and Security Advisory 2014:0348 Important
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The following updated files have been uploaded and are currently
syncing to the mirrors: ( sha256sum Filename )
i386:
0a93cd521aa9197ef5e08abbc130eddae7b0d7d7bdc8de2e3e417e0ceb72789b
xalan-j2-2.7.0-6jpp.2.i386.rpm
99f6ad2ccf7ca1ff180360510279a1a274c3af0bbe8f46f51d453f1b5636bfff
xalan-j2-demo-2.7.0-6jpp.2.i386.rpm
e1abce5dcc6bb72fca6c482e48fd7aa8ddfaacec946ce538ead8044057621003
xalan-j2-javadoc-2.7.0-6jpp.2.i386.rpm
d6d235e7331ed50701061db86eb5636435f791d951fd2ca0f5da40ab19fc114b
xalan-j2-manual-2.7.0-6jpp.2.i386.rpm
25b19b09a04c414ca19de5ae8776779dff35b2d7f07ea14845c58d1ebf74d12a
xalan-j2-xsltc-2.7.0-6jpp.2.i386.rpm
x86_64:
20b4cb7dffa6c9e487f000ed856ea236519123c31d37b272cfc5b4a549c03ca0
xalan-j2-2.7.0-6jpp.2.x86_64.rpm
060bb167461297e137975dfa5ce53025320650068ad83ccb7feed626fde9020b
xalan-j2-demo-2.7.0-6jpp.2.x86_64.rpm
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xalan-j2-javadoc-2.7.0-6jpp.2.x86_64.rpm
debebcbc1a2e58d4ce02ffed019716455c5aeb70df0acb60dcd3e4b258394c80
xalan-j2-manual-2.7.0-6jpp.2.x86_64.rpm
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xalan-j2-xsltc-2.7.0-6jpp.2.x86_64.rpm
Source:
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xalan-j2-2.7.0-6jpp.2.src.rpm
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Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2014 12:22:27 +
From: Johnny Hughes
Subject: [CentOS-announce] CESA-2014:0348 Important CentOS 6 xalan-j2
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CentOS Errata and Security Advisory 2014:0348 Important
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The following updated files have been uploaded and are currently
syncing to the mirrors: ( sha256sum Filename )
i386:
4791c5a062d2fafdbc3281552de6770ffcfb2e678913af78a76e8160e7398343
xalan-j2-2.7.0-9.9.el6_5.noarch.rpm
315a5642f01614a5ea9ad520bab9969169c35a5d07622f99003d97aa00c455ee
xalan-j2-demo-2.7.0-9.9.el6_5.noarch.rpm
876b3aa82be8b979368b06121e038e01bbb768e91dbf65e4cbd84475b17fb94f
xalan-j2-javadoc-2.7.0-9.9.el6_5.noarch.rpm
5c87ed68e12853a34ebb9cfbe4910e1ac5b42092a467fab7980e97a77753a94f
xalan-j2-manual-2.7.0-9.9.el6_5.noarch.rpm
439b1a8b03fec9837f0149a3540e79482795ba3359762372fd59c3eb859bc2b8
xalan-j2-xsltc-2.7.0-9.9.el6_5.noarch.rpm
x86_64:
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xalan-j2-2.7.0-9.9.el6_5.noarch.rpm
315a5642f01614a5ea9ad520bab9969169c35a5d07622f99003d97aa00c455ee
xalan-j2-demo-2.7.0-9.9.el6_5.noarch.rpm
876b3aa82be8b979368b06121e038e01bbb768e91dbf65e4cbd84475b17fb94f
xalan-j2-javadoc-2.7.0-9.9.el6_5.noarch.rpm
5c87ed68e12853a34ebb9cfbe4910e1ac5b42092a467fab7980e97a77753a94f
xalan-j2-manual-2.7.0-9.9.el6_5.noarch.rpm
439b1a8b03fec9837f0149a3540e79482795ba3359762372fd59c3eb859bc2b8
xalan-j2-xsltc-2.7.0-9.9.el6_5.noarch.rpm
Source:
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xalan-j2-2.7.0-9.9.el6_5.src.rpm
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Re: [CentOS] Removing a file that starts with dashes
On Wed, April 2, 2014 20:56, John R. Dennison wrote: > On Wed, Apr 02, 2014 at 03:59:26PM -0700, benf...@parts-unknown.org wrote: >> On Wed, Apr 02, 2014 at 11:17:02PM +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: >> > >> > WTF - there is a reason the "-f" flag exists - RTFM >> > > > Please ignore and do not respond to this person; he's not a member of > the list and is using nefarious methods to post to it. > Background: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/advisory-board/2013-May/011982.html -- *** E-Mail is NOT a SECURE channel *** James B. Byrnemailto:byrn...@harte-lyne.ca Harte & Lyne Limited http://www.harte-lyne.ca 9 Brockley Drive vox: +1 905 561 1241 Hamilton, Ontario fax: +1 905 561 0757 Canada L8E 3C3 ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] Difference between ruby193 CentOS SCL and ruby193 softwarecollections.org SCL
I've found that in https://softwarecollections.org/repos/rhscl/ruby193/epel-6-x86_64/ is passenger included but in http://dev.centos.org/centos/6/SCL/x86_64/ruby193/ is not. What is the differences between this two repos? Thanks, Filip Bartmann ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] ruby193 SCL and mod_passenger
On Thu, April 3, 2014 03:38, Filip Bartmann wrote: > Â > I'm interested in ruby and I try the ruby193 SCL and I want to run Ruby on > Rails with Apache, so I'm searching mod_passenger for this ruby SCL version, > but I found, that this package is not in this SCL. Are any other possibilities > to run Ruby on Rails with Apache or why is mod_passenger not in this SCL? > Â > Thanks, > Filip Bartmann > > When last I looked (~6-9 months ago) mod_passenger had to be built via the Rubygem install process. It also had issues with respect to SELinux that as far as I know remain unresolved. I know that Dan Walsh was working hard with the Phusion team to deal with this but it seemed to me at that time that both sides were considerably distant from an agreement with Phusion at one point basically telling RedHat to fork their project and call it something else. Whether or not this is the reason that the Software Collection does not have an rpm for mod_passenger I cannot say. However, given that support for 1.9.3 ends next January and that Ruby is already at 2.1.1 I suggest that perhaps you are better off building your own Ruby from source and packaging it as a custom rpm. I provided a working spec file and somewhat detailed instructions for building Ruby-1.9.3 at http://byrnejb.wordpress.com/2013/01/30/building-ruby-1-9-3-for-centos-6-3/. You can trivially modify this for 2.1.0 (skip 2.1.1 which has a problem with objects inheriting from Hash - a big problem if you are employing Rails) to build your own package and then use Rubygems to install mod-passenger. You can also package mod_passenger as an rpm should you desire. I do not bother with repackaging gems, although perhaps I should so as to avoid loading development packages on production servers. Alternatively, you can use a Ruby version manager instead of using the system Ruby. On the use of rbenv or rvm I have mixed feelings. Both ruby version managers offer a valuable work-around for environments where system admin is not under the direction of the development team. For production deployments I found that there were other issues which made selection of rvm or rbenv problematic, notably in the deploy process itself and in the brittleness that resulted. I concluded after several incidents involving rvm deploys (not the fault of rvm by the way) that a package managed system really needs to remain a package managed system for ease and efficiency in maintenance. Of course, if you are deploying to a shared hosting arrangement where the production environment is not under your control then rvm or something much like it is unavoidable. But in that case you are only responsible for maintaining your own small part of the system and so your maintenance requirements are far more circumscribed. -- *** E-Mail is NOT a SECURE channel *** James B. Byrnemailto:byrn...@harte-lyne.ca Harte & Lyne Limited http://www.harte-lyne.ca 9 Brockley Drive vox: +1 905 561 1241 Hamilton, Ontario fax: +1 905 561 0757 Canada L8E 3C3 ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Chromium 31.0.1650.63-2.el6 for CentOS 6
On 04/02/2014 10:49 AM, Leon Fauster wrote: > Am 13.03.2014 um 20:05 schrieb Johnny Hughes : >> On 03/13/2014 12:43 PM, teltel wrote: >>> Johnny, >>> Thanks for the Chromium 31 build; it works great. >>> Are you planning on continuing support for Chromium-32 for CentOS and >>> beyond? >>> Stable release seems to be at 33 now for Chrome. >> If we can get them to build, yes. So far we can not. > > > is read a reference to "Extra Packages for Red Hat Enterprise Linux 6" > and can't confirm it. Does upstream provide a chrome package? > > No, they do not. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] ruby193 SCL and mod_passenger
On 04/03/2014 02:38 AM, Filip Bartmann wrote: > > I'm interested in ruby and I try the ruby193 SCL and I want to run Ruby on > Rails with Apache, so I'm searching mod_passenger for this ruby SCL version, > but I found, that this package is not in this SCL. Are any other > possibilities to run Ruby on Rails with Apache or why is mod_passenger not in > this SCL? > Why not there is an upstream question ... Red Hat is releasing a version 1.1 of SCL that will have these: http://red.ht/OfhNRA They have not yet released the sources on ftp.redhat.com as it is a closed beta. I think there are some "ruby193-rubygem-passenger" RPMs and "ruby193-mod_passenger" in the 1.1, but I am not 100% sure at this point. Once they release publicly and I can get the sources, I will build them. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Difference between ruby193 CentOS SCL and ruby193 softwarecollections.org SCL
On 04/03/2014 09:28 AM, Filip Bartmann wrote: > > I've found that in > https://softwarecollections.org/repos/rhscl/ruby193/epel-6-x86_64/ is > passenger included but in http://dev.centos.org/centos/6/SCL/x86_64/ruby193/ > is not. > What is the differences between this two repos? > The CentOS software collections ... and if using mine, use the released version not the testing version ... see this announcement: http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos-announce/2014-February/020164.html The CentOS Software Collections are rebuilds of the Sources released here: http://ftp.redhat.com/redhat/linux/enterprise/6Server/en/RHSCL/ As to what the softwarecollections.org repo is and how it will be maintained, someone else (from that group) will need to answer that and how they will maintain that repo. It looks like every package listed in this documentation: http://red.ht/OfhNRA Is also here: https://softwarecollections.org/repos/rhscl/ But, as to how it is being maintained, I'm not sure. Thanks, Johnny Hughes signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] trac, agilo plugin, rpm, aughghgh!!!
CentOS 6.5, with the current trac, and trac-agilo-plugin. I seem to have problems, and maybe even a bug in the packaging. I installed and got trac running with authentication. Fine. I installed and enabled the agilo plugin. Supposedly fine. Except it doesn't work. On the trac web pages, in the upper right, there's a text link labelled "admin"... but when I mouse over it, what I see in firefox is the path to the cgi/undefined. Undefined? If I search on how to activate the agilo plugin, it tells me to click on the admin icon on the toolbar... but there isn't any such. Finally, on the information I found with *much* googling, it mentions that to enable plugins, I might need to set PYTHON_EGG_CACHE. Now, the rpm installed it under /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/, and I see agilo, and agilo-0.9.7-py2.6.egg-info, and agilo_lib, and there's no egg per se. Is there a but with the trac package, that something's missing, or am I missing something? And what do I do with about the egg? mark "looks like Humpty Dumpty's got a problem" ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] trac, agilo plugin, rpm, aughghgh!!!
m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: > CentOS 6.5, with the current trac, and trac-agilo-plugin. > > I seem to have problems, and maybe even a bug in the packaging. > > I installed and got trac running with authentication. Fine. I installed > and enabled the agilo plugin. Supposedly fine. > > Except it doesn't work. > > On the trac web pages, in the upper right, there's a text link labelled > "admin"... but when I mouse over it, what I see in firefox is the path to > the cgi/undefined. > > Undefined? > > If I search on how to activate the agilo plugin, it tells me to click on > the admin icon on the toolbar... but there isn't any such. > > Finally, on the information I found with *much* googling, it mentions that > to enable plugins, I might need to set PYTHON_EGG_CACHE. Now, the rpm > installed it under /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/, and I see agilo, and > agilo-0.9.7-py2.6.egg-info, and agilo_lib, and there's no egg per se. > > Is there a but with the trac package, that something's missing, or am I > missing something? And what do I do with about the egg? > > mark "looks like Humpty Dumpty's got a problem" > Still googling, and found something *else* I don't understand: all the docs I find online talk about editing trac.ini, *apparently* in /path/to/proj/conf/trac.ini. But I just found that there's an /etc/trac/trac.ini. So, *now* which should be edited? mark ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] trac, agilo plugin, rpm, aughghgh!!!
On Thu, 3 Apr 2014, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: Still googling, and found something *else* I don't understand: all the docs I find online talk about editing trac.ini, *apparently* in /path/to/proj/conf/trac.ini. But I just found that there's an /etc/trac/trac.ini. So, *now* which should be edited? The /etc/trac/trac.ini file isn't used unless you explicitly call it from <>/conf/trac.ini, e.g., [inherit] file = /etc/trac/trac.ini You can use the inherited file for defaults, overriding them in the project's configuration where necessary. -- Paul Heinlein heinl...@madboa.com 45°38' N, 122°6' W___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Centos for Interested Children
Hello All, I think this is an idea worth a thought. op 02-04-14 19:44, m.r...@5-cent.us schreef: > Always Learning wrote: >> Today, an enthusiastic 10 year old boy asked me about Linux. >> >> I thought of telling me to go to centos.org but then realised there is >> nothing on centos.org for complete beginners to Linux or for children. > > Here's another idea: if they have, or have access to a computer at home, > maybe help them set up a VM with CentOS, and let them play with it. > > Betcha they catch on, fast. > > mark "pulls B*rb**'s string, and she says, 'Unix is hr'" > > ___ > CentOS mailing list > CentOS@centos.org > http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos Hello All, I think this is an idea worth a thought. One thing is : if I let my children have their way on the home computers - all of them run Centos6 - they start playing My Little Pony or Star Wars games, and continue with that just as long until you stop them. So even if they play on Linux computers, they still open Firefox and play games. I tried Childsplay, Gcompris, and Edubuntu in the past, and that's good, it's educational. But It still doesn't teach them Linux. Recently I have them do Scratch, and I think Robomind looks interesting ( but you have to pay for it ) . But that's for programming. This week I looked at http://www.phpforkids.com . I haven't tried it yet. The other thing is : the schools over here are firmly in the hands of MS Windows. I would be interested to hear if someone knows of an initiative that really brings Linux to kids or kids to Linux. And if in other country's schools do use Linux. Friendly regards, J. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] kwallet?
So, the other admin I work with comes by, and we're both using kde, and he asks me to to go the start menu, and fire up kwalletmanager. I do... and nothing happens. ps tells me it's running, but there is no window. What's supposed to happen? This is 6.5 mark "don't use it, anyway, but" ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] trac, agilo plugin, rpm, aughghgh!!!
Paul Heinlein wrote: On Thu, 3 Apr 2014, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: >> Still googling, and found something *else* I don't understand: all >> the docs I find online talk about editing trac.ini, *apparently* in >> /path/to/proj/conf/trac.ini. But I just found that there's an >> /etc/trac/trac.ini. So, *now* which should be edited? > The /etc/trac/trac.ini file isn't used unless you explicitly call it > from <>/conf/trac.ini, e.g., >You can use the inherited file for defaults, overriding them in the >project's configuration where necessary. Thanks, Paul, so I don't have to worry 'bout that. On the other hand - any advice? Clues as to why this icon (the information shows it as a round bullet) isn't on the toolbar, or why admin is undefined? All of this is from the quick-start for agilo, where it says to go to admin, and create a team, and I can't find any way to do that, with this stuff apparently missing Note that all I did was the yum install, and the editing the trac.ini. Note also that there's nothing in /path/to/proj/plugins Do I actually need to use easy_install to do some of this stuff? mark ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] trac, agilo plugin, rpm, aughghgh!!!
On Thu, 3 Apr 2014, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: On the other hand - any advice? Clues as to why this icon (the information shows it as a round bullet) isn't on the toolbar, or why admin is undefined? All of this is from the quick-start for agilo, where it says to go to admin, and create a team, and I can't find any way to do that, with this stuff apparently missing Note that all I did was the yum install, and the editing the trac.ini. Note also that there's nothing in /path/to/proj/plugins Do I actually need to use easy_install to do some of this stuff? You made yourself TRAC_ADMIN, right? trac-admin /path/to/trac permission add m.roth TRAC_ADMIN using whatever path and username are appropriate. Otherwise, I have exactly zero experience with anything related to agilo. -- Paul Heinlein heinl...@madboa.com 45°38' N, 122°6' W___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Chromium 31.0.1650.63-2.el6 for CentOS 6
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9RlkKQB1POSWmFiT0REeG1QS28/edit?usp=sharing 2014-04-03 18:43 GMT+03:00 Johnny Hughes : > On 04/02/2014 10:49 AM, Leon Fauster wrote: > > Am 13.03.2014 um 20:05 schrieb Johnny Hughes : > >> On 03/13/2014 12:43 PM, teltel wrote: > >>> Johnny, > >>> Thanks for the Chromium 31 build; it works great. > >>> Are you planning on continuing support for Chromium-32 for CentOS and > >>> beyond? > >>> Stable release seems to be at 33 now for Chrome. > >> If we can get them to build, yes. So far we can not. > > > > > > is read a reference to "Extra Packages for Red Hat Enterprise Linux 6" > > and can't confirm it. Does upstream provide a chrome package? > > > > > No, they do not. > > > ___ > CentOS mailing list > CentOS@centos.org > http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos > > ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Chromium 31.0.1650.63-2.el6 for CentOS 6
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9RlkKQB1POSQlZ1OUljT3p6U1U/edit?usp=sharing 2014-04-04 1:49 GMT+03:00 Νικόλαος Γεωργόπουλος : > > https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9RlkKQB1POSWmFiT0REeG1QS28/edit?usp=sharing > > > > > 2014-04-03 18:43 GMT+03:00 Johnny Hughes : > >> On 04/02/2014 10:49 AM, Leon Fauster wrote: >> > Am 13.03.2014 um 20:05 schrieb Johnny Hughes : >> >> On 03/13/2014 12:43 PM, teltel wrote: >> >>> Johnny, >> >>> Thanks for the Chromium 31 build; it works great. >> >>> Are you planning on continuing support for Chromium-32 for CentOS and >> >>> beyond? >> >>> Stable release seems to be at 33 now for Chrome. >> >> If we can get them to build, yes. So far we can not. >> > >> > >> > is read a reference to "Extra Packages for Red Hat Enterprise Linux 6" >> > and can't confirm it. Does upstream provide a chrome package? >> > >> > >> No, they do not. >> >> >> ___ >> CentOS mailing list >> CentOS@centos.org >> http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos >> >> > ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Centos for Interested Children
On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 3:16 PM, Johan Vermeulen wrote: >> > I would be interested to hear if someone knows of an initiative that > really brings Linux to kids or kids to Linux. > And if in other country's schools do use Linux. There was one... Up through CentOS5 there was an iso respin that just came up working as a classroom server that would PXE-boot a bunch of thin clients and included a working java, media player, and an assortment of educational programs .There's an old presentation here: http://k12linux.mesd.k12.or.us/K12ltsp-presentation.swf You could probably still install one from the isos here: ftp://k12linux.mesd.k12.or.us/../pub/K12LTSP/5.0.0-32bit/iso/ but I'm not sure what it would do after updating. These days it is packaged separately and much more complicated to get working. -- Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Centos for Interested Children
On Thu, 2014-04-03 at 22:16 +0200, Johan Vermeulen wrote: > Hello All, > > I think this is an idea worth a thought. Ja. Dat klopt. > op 02-04-14 19:44, m.r...@5-cent.us schreef: > > Always Learning wrote: > >> Today, an enthusiastic 10 year old boy asked me about Linux. > >> > >> I thought of telling me to go to centos.org but then realised there is > >> nothing on centos.org for complete beginners to Linux or for children. > > > > Here's another idea: if they have, or have access to a computer at home, > > maybe help them set up a VM with CentOS, and let them play with it. > > > > Betcha they catch on, fast. Goedenavond en hartstikke bedankt Johan I can not start the idea / project at the current moment because all my spare time is used to care for some very elderly people who I think will die - one this year and the other next year. (mijn ouders) Having an introduction to computing generally, then into Linux gently and then into Centos simply, is a brilliant idea of mine. It is some think Red Hat should consider supporting as a Centos project. If the community including the very experienced with an abundance of knowledge and talent gradually help to develop the three themes * what is a computer * the basis and basics of Linux * Centos simply not only would would interested children all around the world have a source of information suitable for their inexperience and lack of knowledge but uninformed grown-ups would benefit too. Because someone is over 21 years of age, it does not mean their brains have stopped working. Even old people can be curious about computers. Another advantage is schools all around the word could use the Centos Introduction to Computers as a source of factual and inspirational knowledge when preparing computer lessons. Don't forget the FREE version of Centos costing schools nothing and as another FREE bonus the Centos users lists, in several languages, will help resolve queries. As children grow-up they will know all the many advantages of Linux over dying Windoze. Centos will become universally known among school children. When those children enter business and industry they are likely to be strong advocates for Linux especially the Centos brand with all the Red Hat connotations. Contributions must be accepted from everyone who wants to shared their knowledge and enthusiasm. Remember when you die all your knowledge is lost for ever - don't waste it - pass it on to the younger generation. Give them the benefit of your wonderful knowledge. Do something nice for humanity. Inspiring the next generation of business leaders, technical experts, programmers and systems admins and liberating them from the restrictions, limitations, expense and misery that is Windoze is good business sense for Red Hat, excellent and better than a thousand Centos Dejos (or whatever they are called) and a genuine contribution of passing-on our knowledge to enquiring others. You won't get a medal for your help and assistance but you will know, deep in your hearts, you are making an invaluable contribution to countless others, possibly many tens of millions or more, of people throughout our planet. It just needs one web site and the ideas, text and drawings/diagrams to develop a substantial international resource of impeccable repute. So ? How about some initial support, please ? -- Paul. England, EU. Our systems are exclusively Centos. No Micro$oft Windoze here. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Centos for Interested Children
There is this http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Sugar based on fedora, for younger children. dave ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Centos for Interested Children
On Fri, 2014-04-04 at 10:09 +1000, David Beveridge wrote: > There is this > > http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Sugar > > based on fedora, for younger children. Thanks Dave. But, looking at the initial web page, this is NOT what I believe is required. For example, on http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Creating_an_Activity#Overview_of_unique_hardware_environment -- "When you have at least ten lines of code At this point you are ready to host your code in a repository so that other developers can look at it. You should also create trac tickets to track bugs and feature requests. One of the main OLPC communication systems is through the dev.laptop.org trac page where people can see the status of activities as releases are prepared, testers can file bug reports, and translators can submit translations of your activity. You need to do three things to set this system up: 1. Request project hosting: You need to fill out an application and send it to the devel list (another good reason to join). -- That does not seem to be directed at children, curious children and children with a desire for inspirational news and information. Might be OK for them grown-ups. Not so great for CHILDREN. If the children already know about IP addresses, have some concept of servers and clients and want to play with making a web site (basic HTML followed with some CSS), then Sugar is way-off the mark as the Americans say. Children, and indeed people, develop at different ages. I think what is needed is something like, for example, > * what is a computer > * the basis and basics of Linux > * Centos simply If a four year old can ask why is the sky blue, and then a 10 year old already familiar with IPv4 wants to know how he can make a simple web page, Sugar is not the answer. Lets give the children something really great, awesome, interesting and thought provoking. -- Paul. England, EU. Our systems are exclusively Centos. No Micro$oft Windoze here. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
