[CentOS] x86_64 EDAC throwing error

2009-07-04 Thread Kurian Thayil
Hi All,

We have installed CentOS 5.3 x86_64 in an HP DL585 server with AMD Opteron
64 bit processor and 16 GB RAM. The kernel version is 2.6.18-128.el5 . Now
this has thrown an error message in /var/log/message,

Jul  3 21:41:11 db1 kernel: EDAC k8 MC0: general bus error: participating
processor(local node origin), time-out(no timeout) memory transaction
type(generic read), mem or i/o(mem access), cache level(generic)
Jul  3 21:41:11 db1 kernel: EDAC MC0: CE page 0x65bc7, offset 0x6a0, grain
8, syndrome 0x6e1a, row 0, channel 0, label "": k8_edac
Jul  3 21:41:11 db1 kernel: EDAC k8 MC0: extended error code: ECC chipkill
x4 error
Jul  3 22:00:00 db1 ntpdate[3813]: step time server 120.88.46.10 offset
-4.375417 sec
Jul  3 22:12:57 db1 kernel: EDAC k8 MC0: general bus error: participating
processor(local node origin), time-out(no timeout) memory transaction
type(generic read), mem or i/o(mem access), cache level(generic)
Jul  3 22:12:57 db1 kernel: EDAC MC0: CE page 0x65bc7, offset 0x6a0, grain
8, syndrome 0x6e1a, row 0, channel 0, label "": k8_edac
Jul  3 22:12:57 db1 kernel: EDAC k8 MC0: extended error code: ECC chipkill
x4 error

I understand this is an error message from Error Detection And Control
module and just wanna confirm that this is not a kernel or software related
issue. If Hardware related is it confined only to the Physical memory stick
installed or processor related? Any hint on this??

Regards,

Kurian Thayil.
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Re: [CentOS] Replicate desktop configuration for other users using /etc/skel

2009-07-04 Thread Niki Kovacs
JohnS a écrit :

> yum install Sabayon.i386

This looks exactly like the tool I need. But isn't the project abandoned?
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Re: [CentOS] Dag's comment at linuxtag

2009-07-04 Thread Geoff Galitz


>The project is a confluence of a sub-project under the cAos project,

Is this still true?  Is Centos still officially associated with cAos?  Or
was that supposed to be in the past tense?

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Re: [CentOS] new RAID5 array: 3x500GB with XFS

2009-07-04 Thread Timo Schoeler
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thus James A. Peltier spake:
> On Fri, 3 Jul 2009, Coert Waagmeester wrote:
> 
>> Hello all,
>>
>> I have yesterday after some typos, sent my ext3 RAID5 array to the
>> void...
>>
>> I want to recreate it now, but I read on
>> http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/Disk_Optimization
>> that you can optimize the filesystem on top of the RAID.
>>
>> Will this wiki article be exactly the same for XFS?
>>
>> Is it worth the trouble to also create an LVM volume on the RAID array?

IMHO yes, as there are very nice features such as snapshotting and
resizing (XFS handles that excellently!) without major hassle. I even
use it on my 'workstation' (two RAID1, one for system, one huge for
data; on top of both LVM, partitions ext3 and XFS).

HTH,

Timo

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> You have to understand the details of how the raid was built, stripe size, 
> logical unit number and RAID-5 itself to properly optimize.  Google for 
> XFS performance tuning and you'll find lots of details.

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Re: [CentOS] Replicate desktop configuration for other users using /etc/skel

2009-07-04 Thread JohnS

On Sat, 2009-07-04 at 09:08 +0200, Niki Kovacs wrote:
> JohnS a écrit :
> 
> > yum install Sabayon.i386
> 
> This looks exactly like the tool I need. But isn't the project abandoned?
---
Niki. I don't see how it is abandoned when upstream slaps an article in
rh magazine plus it is in fedora. Supported in CentOS 5.3. 

But there are better tools out there for server/desktop provisioning
than that. I just recommended that to you because you wanted something
simple. You can explore using ldap to have the profiles you need. Create
one profile for diskless machines would have a consistant desktop.

So may I ask are you writing a book on this? 

John

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[CentOS] Getting started with NFS

2009-07-04 Thread Niki Kovacs
Hi,

I've never been using NFS before, but I'm going to need it. I gathered 
some documentation (Deployment Guide, RHEL 5 Unleashed, general NFS 
docs) and I have a few machines to experiment with.

After about two hours of reading and experimenting, I must admit the 
documentation is confusing, to say the least. Although some step-by-step 
tutorials are provided, none of them work. For example, the RHEL 
deployment guide mentions NFSv2, NFSv3 and NFSv4... but as much as I 
poke around, I don't even find a way to checkout which one of the 
version I'm running.

So...

1) Can you suggest some reliable and well-written (think: 
newbie-friendly) documentation about NFS?

2) Usually I start out from a minimal install on desktop as well as 
servers. Which packages are needed on the servers side, and on the 
client side, in order for NFS to work correctly? None of the docs 
mentioned above says a word about it.

Thanks,

Niki
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Re: [CentOS] Getting started with NFS

2009-07-04 Thread Frank Cox
On Sat, 04 Jul 2009 10:02:44 +0200
Niki Kovacs wrote:

> 1) Can you suggest some reliable and well-written (think: 
> newbie-friendly) documentation about NFS?

There isn't much to setting up a simple NFS fileserver and client mount.  Set
up /etc/exports on the server (this assumes your client is 192.168.0.3)

/whatever/where-ever/ 192.168.0.3(rw)

Start the nfs service.  Create a mount point on the client

"mkdir /mnt/fileserver"

 then mount the fileserver there. 

"mount fileserver:/whatever/where-ever/ /mnt/fileserver"

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Re: [CentOS] software raid1 syncing

2009-07-04 Thread Kay Diederichs
luc...@lastdot.org schrieb:
> On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 9:15 PM, Steven Vishoot wrote:
>> hello all,
>>
>> I have a setup that is raid 1 and put the mirrored drive back in and now it 
>> is still showing as degraded saying: raid1: raid set md6 active with 1 out 
>> of 2 mirrors with this message on all the raids.i know i am wrong by saying 
>> this but i thought putting in the driving and rebooting would start the re 
>> syncing itself. what do i have to do to add this back in, i am so confused 
>> with this process.
>>
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> Well, just putting a new disk drive in the place of the bad one
> doesn't cut it. You have to recreate partition table and then add the
> partitions to the drive.
> e.g.
> sda = the old disk in the raid that has not failed
> sdb = the newly added disk
> dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/sdb bs=512 count=1
> 
> That'll replicate the partition table and mbr to the new disk.
> 
> Then starting addinf the new partitions to the linux raid:
> mdadm -a /dev/sdb1 /dev/md0 and so on, depending what your setup is.
> Do a:
> cat /proc/mdstat and see what partitions are added to which raid.
> Alternatively to a google search for howtos (e.g.
> http://www.gagme.com/greg/linux/raid-lvm.php ) and learn how to manage
> linux raid so you dont fsck up your system.

well as I just did that yesterday I'd wish to add:

a)  dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/sdb bs=512 count=1
will also copy the grub info so it's a good thing to do if you ever want 
to be able to boot from the new disk if the old disk goes bad. However 
it does not seem to copy the info about the extended partitions, just 
the primary ones. So in my case (I needed a sdb5 and sdb6) I had to 
manually (using fdisk) prepare the extended partitions, taking the old 
disk as a template.

b) the syntax for mdadm is e.g.
mdadm /dev/md0 --add /dev/sdb1
AFAICT although mdadm seems to be pretty smart about getting it right.

HTH

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Re: [CentOS] Getting started with NFS

2009-07-04 Thread JohnS

On Sat, 2009-07-04 at 10:02 +0200, Niki Kovacs wrote:
> For example, the RHEL 
> deployment guide mentions NFSv2, NFSv3 and NFSv4... but as much as I 
> poke around, I don't even find a way to checkout which one of the 
> version I'm running.
> 
---
That's because you have to specify what version of nfs you want or it
defaults to what is installed on the server. See man nfs and man
exports.

It is in the man page which is astonishing to me.

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Re: [CentOS] Getting started with NFS

2009-07-04 Thread Niki Kovacs
JohnS a écrit :
> 
> It is in the man page which is astonishing to me.
> 

Neither 'man nfs' nor 'man exports' specify any version. But I tried 
again to mount the NFS share, this time by specifying a filesystem, like 
this:

# mount -t nfs4 raymonde:/data /home/shares

Here's what I got this time:

Warning: rpc.idmapd appears not to be running.
  All uids will be mapped to the nobody uid.

... and I didn't get a shell prompt back, so something didn't quite work 
out. I conclude that there's some daemon missing on the client (like I 
said, I always start out from a minimal configuration and then add 
packages as needed). Any idea what package rpc.idmapd belongs to, 
because a search with 'yum provides' and 'yum search' showed nothing.

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[CentOS] [Fwd: Re: Getting started with NFS]

2009-07-04 Thread Niki Kovacs
 --- Begin Message ---

Frank Cox a écrit :


There isn't much to setting up a simple NFS fileserver and client mount.  Set
up /etc/exports on the server (this assumes your client is 192.168.0.3)

/whatever/where-ever/ 192.168.0.3(rw)

Start the nfs service.  Create a mount point on the client

"mkdir /mnt/fileserver"

 then mount the fileserver there. 


"mount fileserver:/whatever/where-ever/ /mnt/fileserver"



That's about exactly what I did. I setup the NFS server on machine 
'raymonde' (192.168.1.4) on my local network. Then when I do this from 
another machine:


[r...@lifebook ~]# mount raymonde:/data /home/shares

Nothing happens for about a minute or so, and then I get the following 
error:


mount.nfs: Input/output error

Which leaves me clueless.

Any idea what might go wrong here?

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Re: [CentOS] Getting started with NFS

2009-07-04 Thread John Austin
On Sat, 2009-07-04 at 10:46 +0200, Niki Kovacs wrote:
> JohnS a écrit :
> > 
> > It is in the man page which is astonishing to me.
> > 
> 
> Neither 'man nfs' nor 'man exports' specify any version. But I tried 
> again to mount the NFS share, this time by specifying a filesystem, like 
> this:
> 
> # mount -t nfs4 raymonde:/data /home/shares
> 
> Here's what I got this time:
> 
> Warning: rpc.idmapd appears not to be running.
>   All uids will be mapped to the nobody uid.
> 
> ... and I didn't get a shell prompt back, so something didn't quite work 
> out. I conclude that there's some daemon missing on the client (like I 
> said, I always start out from a minimal configuration and then add 
> packages as needed). Any idea what package rpc.idmapd belongs to, 
> because a search with 'yum provides' and 'yum search' showed nothing.
> 
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Hi

Things that control nfs on the server are

1. /etc/sysconfig/nfs   no modifications required for me
2. /etc/exports see mine below
3. firewall settingsmine is off
4. /etc/idmapd.conf if using nfs4 - an nfs4 domain is required
5. /etc/fstab   probably bind mounts needed - if using nfs4

First decision is whether to use nfs4 or not - this exports works for both on 
mine
The mount command on the client is different in the two case
nfs4
mount -t nfs4 maui:/global /global

nfs3
mount maui:/exports/global /global
---
maui.jaa.org.uk sysconfig 3# cat /etc/exports
/exports
148.197.29.0/24(rw,insecure,sync,wdelay,no_subtree_check,no_root_squash,fsid=0)
/exports/global 
148.197.29.0/24(rw,insecure,sync,wdelay,no_subtree_check,nohide,no_root_squash)
/exports/home   
148.197.29.0/24(rw,insecure,sync,wdelay,no_subtree_check,nohide,no_root_squash)
---
bind mounts for nfs4
maui.jaa.org.uk sysconfig 4# cat /etc/fstab
LABEL=home_maui /home   ext3
defaults1 2
LABEL=global_maui   /global ext3
defaults1 2
/home   /exports/home   none bind   
 0 0
/global /exports/global none bind   
 0 0
---
maui.jaa.org.uk sysconfig 5# cat /etc/idmapd.conf
[General]
Verbosity = 0
Pipefs-Directory = /var/lib/nfs/rpc_pipefs
#Domain = localdomain
Domain = jaa.org.uk
[Mapping]
Nobody-User = nfsnobody
Nobody-Group = nfsnobody
[Translation]
Method = nsswitch
---
maui.jaa.org.uk sysconfig 6# ps -ef|grep -i rpc
root  2380 1  0 Jul02 ?00:00:00 rpc.idmapd
---
[r...@maui ~]# service rpcidmapd status
rpc.idmapd (pid 2380) is running...
---

On the client (F11 in my case)
The default /etc/idmapd.conf should work if the nfs4 domain is the same
as the DNS domain - if in doubt force them to be the same on both the server 
and the client
The nfsnobody ownership is probably the result of the server and client domain 
not being the same
(and/or idmapd not running on both server and client)
/etc/idmapd.conf
naxos ~ 1# cat /etc/idmapd.conf 
[General]   
#Verbosity = 0  
# The following should be set to the local NFSv4 domain name
# The default is the host's DNS domain name.
#Domain = local.domain.edu  
Domain = jaa.org.uk 
...

Hope this helps

John


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Re: [CentOS] x86_64 EDAC throwing error

2009-07-04 Thread Rajagopal Swaminathan
Greetings,

On Sat, Jul 4, 2009 at 12:34 PM, Kurian Thayil wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> We have installed CentOS 5.3 x86_64 in an HP DL585 server with AMD Opteron
> 64 bit processor and 16 GB RAM. The kernel version is 2.6.18-128.el5 . Now
> this has thrown an error message in /var/log/message,
>
> Jul  3 21:41:11 db1 kernel: EDAC k8 MC0: general bus error: participating
> processor(local node origin), time-out(no timeout) memory transaction
> type(generic read), mem or i/o(mem access), cache level(generic)


While I cant throw much light on this particular problem, I have faced
some peoblem as the opeteron based DL 3x5 g5 servers require RAM to be
populated evenly among the CPU sockets

Just my 2p
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Re: [CentOS] Getting started with NFS

2009-07-04 Thread JohnS

On Sat, 2009-07-04 at 10:46 +0200, Niki Kovacs wrote:

> 
> Here's what I got this time:
> 
> Warning: rpc.idmapd appears not to be running.
---
You need to start up your RPC services on the client
service rpcidmapd status
service rpcidmapd start and
chkconfig

John

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Re: [CentOS] Dag's comment at linuxtag

2009-07-04 Thread Dag Wieers

On Fri, 3 Jul 2009, Bogdan Nicolescu wrote:

BUT... when someone from the Centos team makes a statement like 
"...latest release has many up-to-date desktop packages..."  or any 
other statement that might imply, suggest, hint, or even smell of 
breaking compatibility with RH, for whatever reason, I think a lot of 
users will start looking for alternatives.


First of all, when I said this, I was no longer part of the CentOS team.

Secondly, I didn't say that literally, but I don't object to the wording. 
For desktop use we do have up-to-date desktop packages. Not firefox 3.5 
(wasn't released then) but a recent Network Manager, pidgin, firefox.


So I wasn't lying. If that means that people will look for alternatives, 
that's fine. I would be lying if I said that we only had old desktop 
applications, wouldn't I ?


CentOS already covers the server market, it doesn't need a push there. But 
a lot of people see CentOS as a pure server OS. Which I am trying to 
change by telling people how CentOS is perfect for the desktop for 99% of 
the people. I am leaving out the 1% of people that want to have the latest 
and greatest in everything, that are developers, or have religious 
technology preference. If Linux would have 100 million users right now, it 
wouldn't cover the potential 1% of the whole market if you look at a 
desktop-using population.



Again, if your goal is to be 100% compatible with RH, then RH dictates 
the package version.  And just in case some people are not very clear on 
RH's goals for the foreseeable future:


"It’s worth pointing out what’s missing in the list above: we have no
plans to create a traditional desktop product for the consumer market
in the foreseeable future."

http://press.redhat.com/2008/04/16/whats-going-on-with-red-hat-desktop-systems-an-update/

This does not mean that other/extra repositories can't and don't exist, 
but it should always be made crystal clear (and it has been a few days 
ago), that the base is never compromised.


You read of course what you want to read. And Red Hat is right, they do 
not target the _consumer_ market. Which is fair. There is little money to 
be made in the consumer market (not if you don't have a lot of 
money/effort going to support etc...)


But they do target the Enterprise desktop market and therefor they do have 
a desktop product that works fine for what it is. And most people don't 
need more than that. (I certainly don't)


So don't make the mistake that so many others have made, which is that Red 
Hat is not interested in the Desktop. They are very much interested, that 
is partly why they bought Qumranet, and why they spend so much money on 
Desktop related development in Fedora.


Red Hat sees the desktop as the next step in revenue, but not in the 
consumer market. They see it in the enterprise market. That's crystal 
clear for me.


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Re: [CentOS] Dag's comment at linuxtag

2009-07-04 Thread Dag Wieers
On Fri, 3 Jul 2009, Bogdan Nicolescu wrote:

>> On Fri, 3 Jul 2009, Bogdan Nicolescu wrote:
>>
>>> BUT... when someone from the Centos team makes a statement
>>> like "...latest release has many up-to-date desktop
>>> packages..."
>>
>> ummm -- it is of course true that changes happen; rebasings do
>> as well; and the CentOS project [and the upstream] document
>> these matters in release notes as to the up-to-date changes
>> done.  Upstream decided on most of them, or we made a minimal
>> delta to get the packageset to stabilize.  So what?  The
>> project cannot cater to people who won't read nor pay
>> attention.
>
> Russ, this was about a comment about "up-to-date desktop packages", not 
> a comment about "up-to-date changes".  Just because the release notes 
> contains "up-to-date changes", it doesn't necessarily mean that the 
> "up-to-date xxx package" is installed.  But maybe I wrong, please point 
> to one current "up-to-date package" in Centos or RH for that matter. 
> And by up-to-date package I don't mean a stable, but un-supported 
> package (ie PHP)

So, here's a small list of "up-to-date desktop packages" all part of 
CentOS 5.3 _and_ RHEL 5.4:

  - firefox 3.0.11
  - pidgin 2.5.8
  - NetworkManager 0.7.0
  - thunderbird 2.0.22

And there are many more useful ones if you look at additional 
repositories, like the reporter clearly mentions in the quoted text.


> Thank you, and all the other Centos members for clarifying this... 
> "Yes, CentOS is often considered a server operating system," explained
> Dag, "but we are trying to change that. In fact, the latest release has
> many up-to-date desktop packages and we also have an extra repository
> with many application and drivers that are not officially part of Red
> Hat Enterprise Linux (RHEL)."

The more I read your quote, the more I think you are misreading what I 
say. When I said "we are trying to change that" it means we are trying to 
change the _perception_ that CentOS is considered a server operating 
system.

We are not trying to change what CentOS is, we cannot because we merely 
take what comes from Red Hat. If that is not clear to you from everything 
the CentOS project did the past 4 years, then every word is wasted anyway.

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Re: [CentOS] Dag's comment at linuxtag

2009-07-04 Thread Karanbir Singh
On 07/04/2009 08:07 AM, Geoff Galitz wrote:
>> The project is a confluence of a sub-project under the cAos project,
>
> Is this still true?  Is Centos still officially associated with cAos?  Or
> was that supposed to be in the past tense?

No, CentOS has nothing to do with caos in quite a few years now - and 
thats not going to change. CentOS is a completely independent project.

also, I completely lost interest in this thread when it went into 
ranting lands, guess it might be worth catching up on.

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Re: [CentOS] Multiple Internet facing Nics - Gateway issue

2009-07-04 Thread Chan Chung Hang Christopher

> Now where would the proper place be to put a route for load balancing like:
>
> ip route add default scope global nexthop via xx.yy.51.46 dev eth2 weight 3
> nexthop via aa.bb.166.2 dev eth3 weight 1
>
>   

Hey Doug,

Congrats! Now that we have helped you, it is your turn to help us! :-D

Let us know when you get that one working!

Cheers,

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Re: [CentOS] Dag's comment at linuxtag

2009-07-04 Thread Bogdan Nicolescu

the end of this circle for me

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Re: [CentOS] Dag's comment at linuxtag

2009-07-04 Thread Didi
On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 4:16 PM, Akemi Yagi wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 6:39 AM, Ned Slider wrote:
>> Didi wrote:
>>> On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 7:45 PM, Akemi Yagi wrote:
>
 http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2558/3679382429_d535f79823_o.jpg
 (info offered by NedSlider)
>>>
>>> Have a look at the time the photo was taken. The booth only opened at
>>> 10 and the photo was taken before. Maybe subscribe to the promo list
>>> where this was discussed. Funny that such accusations are coming out
>>> of the community.
>>>
>>> Cheers Didi
>>
>> Hi Didi,
>>
>> I believe it was said as a joke and posted here to somewhat lighten the
>> tone of this thread :)
>
> It was indeed my humble effort.  But this thread made such a wrong
> turn that jokes do not seem to work / help as intended.  :-(

Hey, I am sorry. I have just already received personal comments on
this and I automatically assumed this was a continuation of these. And
reading the threads the tone is becoming more and more insulting. I
just didn't think someone would be funny. Sad in a way where the list
is going. But rereading it now, I should have noticed. I assume it was
just my personal bias. But nice effort :)

Cheers Didi



>
> Oh well.
>
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[CentOS] modern motherboard for centos-5

2009-07-04 Thread fred smith
I'm considering upgrading, and am trying to choose a modern motherboard
that nevertheless fully works with Centos5/RHEL5.

Though I'm partial to AMD processors, and would like to use one in my
new configuration, that's not a requirement, if the most appropriate
board happens to be intel-compatible. 

However, given the way ASUS is dumping LInux and crawling more firmly
into bed with the Beast, I'd prefer to avoid ASUS boards.

I see that NewEgg has some combo deals at reasonable prices, but I
can't tell which chipsets/boards are known to work with centos5 and
which aren't.

Just at random, here's one of their offerings, a Biostar board:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813138143
I've always understood Biostar boards to be cheap, not only in price,
but perhaps they're serviceable? 

I'm open to other suggestions, too.

Thanks in advance!

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Re: [CentOS] what would be happen if swap partition is not?

2009-07-04 Thread Kwan Lowe
On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 11:11 PM, Keith Keller  wrote:

> On Fri, Jul 03, 2009 at 02:18:57PM -0400, Kwan Lowe wrote:
> >
> > If you do run without page space, you should configure the kernel
> overcommit
> > options.
>
> Is there a good, consistent, complete source of documentation for these
> options?  They have changed a bunch in the 2.6 kernels, and I suspect
> the docs in the kernel source were not always up to date with the
> available options.
>

I agree. Just doing a quick search and found that there's a bunch of
outdated information and some that's not just outdated, but was never right
in the first place.

For example, take a look at page volumes versus page files... Traditionally
you would use a page volume because of the overhead involved with using
files. Then changes to how page files were used made the difference almost
(or completely) negligible.  But then fragmentation may come into play when
creating page files so page volumes would still be better.. But then storage
is often virtualized so it again may not matter because the backing volume
itself may be fragmented, or in some cases, reside on multiple physical
volumes so it didn't matter.  And with new allocation routines, maybe it
again doesn't matter.

Here's one decent guide that explains what happens in an OOM situation:

http://www.linuxdevcenter.com/pub/a/linux/2006/11/30/linux-out-of-memory.html

There's also some good stuff on kerneltrap.org.
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Subject: Break-In attempt on www.centos.org

Dear Users,

on Friday evening, July 3rd (UTC) we found a few suspicious files on the
CentOS webserver. Upon investigating we found out that the files had
been put there through Xoops (the CMS www.centos.org runs on) - and that
this was possible due to a an administrative error which has been
corrected.

As far as we can see there has been no data or binary injected into the
system or taken from the system. The machine hasn't been used as a
source for sending spam (in the widest possible meaning) either. 

We have been able to identify the source of the attacks, but have not
been able to find out if the files have been put there through a
compromised user account in the Xoops system. 

Although we are fairly sure that there has been no such compromise, we
have enforced a password expiry on all accounts on the system.

wiki.centos.org and bugs.centos.org - though being on the same machine -
have not been affected by this.

All users having an account on www.centos.org need to acquire a new
password through the "lost password" system of Xoops.

We are terribly sorry for any inconvenience this might cause you and
would like to apologize for that.

On behalf of the CentOS team,

Ralph Angenendt
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Re: [CentOS] modern motherboard for centos-5

2009-07-04 Thread nate
fred smith wrote:
> I'm considering upgrading, and am trying to choose a modern motherboard
> that nevertheless fully works with Centos5/RHEL5.

What role is that system going to play?

I assume server because I'd put money down that in excess of
99% of CentOS installations are servers. (that number
started at 95% and I kept jacking it up higher the more
I thought about it..)

In which case..

Supermicro has a pretty large selection of Istanbul-ready
boards, you don't really mention any special requirements
outside of OS compatibility so it's hard to say what board
is best:

http://www.supermicro.com/Istanbul/Istanbul.cfm?pg=MB

Pretty much all of them should work fine with CentOS 5, of course
I would avoid the on board controllers for disks, use an external
controller like a 3Ware or something mainly for performance
reasons.

Tyan has plenty of good boards too.

nate

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Re: [CentOS] x86_64 EDAC throwing error

2009-07-04 Thread nate
Kurian Thayil wrote:
> I understand this is an error message from Error Detection And Control
> module and just wanna confirm that this is not a kernel or software related
> issue. If Hardware related is it confined only to the Physical memory stick
> installed or processor related? Any hint on this??

Login to the iLO/iLO2 interface and look at the system event
log, all DL585s will log memory errors there, and will even
tell you what memory module it is.

nate

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Re: [CentOS] Dag's comment at linuxtag

2009-07-04 Thread John R Pierce
Karanbir Singh wrote:
> also, I completely lost interest in this thread when it went into 
> ranting lands, guess it might be worth catching up on.
>   

not really.  :-/


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Re: [CentOS] [Fwd: Re: Getting started with NFS]

2009-07-04 Thread Frank Cox
On Sat, 04 Jul 2009 10:48:37 +0200
Niki Kovacs wrote:

> Any idea what might go wrong here?

firewall problem?

Try disabling your firewall and see if it works.  If it does, then here is my
note about how to do make NFS work through a firewall.

HOW TO SET UP A FIREWALL THAT ALLOWS NFS

Create the file "/etc/sysconfig/nfs" and add the following contents:

STATD_PORT=4001
LOCKD_TCPPORT=4002
LOCKD_UDPPORT=4002
MOUNTD_PORT=4003

 Append the following to the file "/etc/services":

rquotad 4004/tcp # rpc.rquotad tcp port
rquotad 4004/udp # rpc.rquotad udp port

 Restart the nfs services

>From there, open these ports -> 111:tcp, 111:udp, 2049:tcp, 2049:udp,
4001:tcp, 4001:udp, 4002:tcp, 4002:udp, 4003:tcp, 4003:udp, 4004:tcp,
4004:udp


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[CentOS] Question on security issue alert from recent centos-announce

2009-07-04 Thread Scott Ehrlich
What exactly does the announcement mean to the CentOS community?

>From what point in the past to what point present/future should the
user community be concerned?

Once you find the final culprit, how sure will you be whether any
issue is/was malicious vs benign?

Do you perform regular server checksums to compare what _might_ have
changed (i.e. tripwire, etc)?

What is the level and mitigation of damage control - current and future?

What additional specifics can we learn from you - from safe/tainted
media checksum files to ISO media itself?  From keeping machines up
and running to needing a fresh install?

Could the same thing happen, or did it, with the upstream provider, or
is it limited to the CentOS community?

Thank you.

Scott
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Re: [CentOS] Dag's comment at linuxtag

2009-07-04 Thread Rob Kampen

Dag Wieers wrote:

On Fri, 3 Jul 2009, Bogdan Nicolescu wrote:

BUT... when someone from the Centos team makes a statement like 
"...latest release has many up-to-date desktop packages..."  or any 
other statement that might imply, suggest, hint, or even smell of 
breaking compatibility with RH, for whatever reason, I think a lot of 
users will start looking for alternatives.


First of all, when I said this, I was no longer part of the CentOS team.

Secondly, I didn't say that literally, but I don't object to the 
wording. For desktop use we do have up-to-date desktop packages. Not 
firefox 3.5 (wasn't released then) but a recent Network Manager, 
pidgin, firefox.


So I wasn't lying. If that means that people will look for 
alternatives, that's fine. I would be lying if I said that we only had 
old desktop applications, wouldn't I ?


CentOS already covers the server market, it doesn't need a push there. 
But a lot of people see CentOS as a pure server OS. Which I am trying 
to change by telling people how CentOS is perfect for the desktop for 
99% of the people. I am leaving out the 1% of people that want to have 
the latest and greatest in everything, that are developers, or have 
religious technology preference. If Linux would have 100 million users 
right now, it wouldn't cover the potential 1% of the whole market if 
you look at a desktop-using population.



Again, if your goal is to be 100% compatible with RH, then RH 
dictates the package version.  And just in case some people are not 
very clear on RH's goals for the foreseeable future:


"It’s worth pointing out what’s missing in the list above: we have no
plans to create a traditional desktop product for the consumer market
in the foreseeable future."

http://press.redhat.com/2008/04/16/whats-going-on-with-red-hat-desktop-systems-an-update/ 



This does not mean that other/extra repositories can't and don't 
exist, but it should always be made crystal clear (and it has been a 
few days ago), that the base is never compromised.


You read of course what you want to read. And Red Hat is right, they 
do not target the _consumer_ market. Which is fair. There is little 
money to be made in the consumer market (not if you don't have a lot 
of money/effort going to support etc...)


But they do target the Enterprise desktop market and therefor they do 
have a desktop product that works fine for what it is. And most people 
don't need more than that. (I certainly don't)


So don't make the mistake that so many others have made, which is that 
Red Hat is not interested in the Desktop. They are very much 
interested, that is partly why they bought Qumranet, and why they 
spend so much money on Desktop related development in Fedora.


Red Hat sees the desktop as the next step in revenue, but not in the 
consumer market. They see it in the enterprise market. That's crystal 
clear for me.




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Just for the record:
I use CentOS due to the pedigree of the source RPMs, the fact that it 
will be supported for many years with patches AND that it works fine as 
a desktop / work station and even laptop OS. I run five servers, two 
laptops and two workstations all with CentOS (use plus for the non 
servers). I play videos, and music as well as perform all my business 
functions reliably month after month. Keep up the great work.
I use all the CentOS repos, rpmforge and EPEL plus one or two others for 
very specific needs. If the additional repos break CentOS I back out and 
look elsewhere. Sure it takes some time and tender loving care to get it 
all working but the important thing is IT DOES! - RELIABLY month after 
month.


I once upon a time I used others and got so tired of having to do 
rebuilds of my machine every year or so to stay supported. Life is too 
short - I like to use hardware for four+ years and want the OS to match.
Thanks team - this user sure appreciates your efforts and I am trying to 
come up to speed so I can be of more help to the project.
Do not let those that rant and rave and get nasty put you off. We 
recognize the time and effort it takes to make good stuff happen.


Appreciated
- Rob
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Re: [CentOS] [Fwd: Re: Getting started with NFS]

2009-07-04 Thread Rob Kampen

Niki Kovacs wrote:




Subject:
Re: [CentOS] Getting started with NFS
From:
Niki Kovacs 
Date:
Sat, 04 Jul 2009 10:33:31 +0200
To:
Frank Cox 

To:
Frank Cox 


Frank Cox a écrit :


There isn't much to setting up a simple NFS fileserver and client 
mount.  Set

up /etc/exports on the server (this assumes your client is 192.168.0.3)

/whatever/where-ever/ 192.168.0.3(rw)

Start the nfs service.  Create a mount point on the client

"mkdir /mnt/fileserver"

 then mount the fileserver there.
"mount fileserver:/whatever/where-ever/ /mnt/fileserver"



That's about exactly what I did. I setup the NFS server on machine 
'raymonde' (192.168.1.4) on my local network. Then when I do this from 
another machine:


[r...@lifebook ~]# mount raymonde:/data /home/shares

Nothing happens for about a minute or so, and then I get the following 
error:


mount.nfs: Input/output error

Which leaves me clueless.

Any idea what might go wrong here?



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Niki,
nfs v2 and v3 are fairly simple, however I have not yet managed v4 as it 
seem to need kerberos and individual user authentication rather than 
machine authentication as do v2 & v3.
If you use a firewall on your server, you will need to set up permanent 
ports for the various services that nfs uses. check out /etc/sysconfig/nfs
rpcinfo -p will show you what is running and what version and ports - 
very useful!!

HTH
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Re: [CentOS] [Fwd: Re: Getting started with NFS]

2009-07-04 Thread Niki Kovacs
Thanks everybody for the detailed hints and answers, on the list as well 
as offlist.

I got myself a second "sandbox" PC today, and I just installed two 
vanilla CentOS 5.3 systems on them. It'll be much easier to figure out 
the innards of NFS without the constantly nagging fear of breaking 
something on my production PCs. I'll eventually keep posting follow-ups 
to my investigations.

cheers,

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Re: [CentOS] [Fwd: Re: Getting started with NFS]

2009-07-04 Thread luc...@lastdot.org
On Sat, Jul 4, 2009 at 9:47 PM, Niki Kovacs wrote:
> Thanks everybody for the detailed hints and answers, on the list as well
> as offlist.
>
> I got myself a second "sandbox" PC today, and I just installed two
> vanilla CentOS 5.3 systems on them. It'll be much easier to figure out
> the innards of NFS without the constantly nagging fear of breaking
> something on my production PCs. I'll eventually keep posting follow-ups
> to my investigations.
>
> cheers,
>
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This is a circumstance where virtualization would help.
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Re: [CentOS] modern motherboard for centos-5

2009-07-04 Thread fred smith
On Sat, Jul 04, 2009 at 10:18:56AM -0700, nate wrote:
> fred smith wrote:
> > I'm considering upgrading, and am trying to choose a modern motherboard
> > that nevertheless fully works with Centos5/RHEL5.
> 
> What role is that system going to play?
> 
> I assume server because I'd put money down that in excess of
> 99% of CentOS installations are servers. (that number
> started at 95% and I kept jacking it up higher the more
> I thought about it..)

Sorry, I didn't think to specify. It's my personal playground/home computer/
mail server. So in the sense that it hosts the mail server for my personal
domain, then yes, it's a server. But in every other sense it's "just" my
personal computer.

One board at Newegg that is inexpensive yet from the reviews looks like
a good one is http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128392.
I've been running on a Gigabyte board for the last 5 (or so--can't recall
exactly) years and it has always "just worked", so I wouldn't mind another.

But what I don't know how to tell is if chipsets have Linux support (in
my preferred OS, not the latest unreleased Fedora Rawhide, or next year's 
still pre-alpha Ubuntu), or even with chipset support does the darn thing
work or not?


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Re: [CentOS] Question on security issue alert from recent centos-announce

2009-07-04 Thread Ralph Angenendt
Scott Ehrlich wrote:
> What exactly does the announcement mean to the CentOS community?

This is not an easy answer.

> From what point in the past to what point present/future should the
> user community be concerned?

This happened currently. And as far as we can say now it only concerned
our CMS (xoops in this case). And even there we are fairly sure that
nothing has happened - resetting all passwords was a measure to make
sure that *if* we had a compromised account, the attacker wouldn't be
able to use the same password.

> Once you find the final culprit, how sure will you be whether any
> issue is/was malicious vs benign?

I do not understand that question.

> Do you perform regular server checksums to compare what _might_ have
> changed (i.e. tripwire, etc)?

There are measures in place to provide at least a certain level of
security - which is hard in case of a CMS where other people have
logins.

> What is the level and mitigation of damage control - current and
> future?

What are you trying to get at? This issue *only* concerned our web
server. None of the machines actually "doing" the distribution are even
reachable by that machine.

> What additional specifics can we learn from you - from safe/tainted
> media checksum files to ISO media itself?  From keeping machines up
> and running to needing a fresh install?

As said before: None of the machines which are used for composing the
distribution are touched by this issue. These machines are not reachable
by the outside - and you always have signed packages. 

> Could the same thing happen, or did it, with the upstream provider, or
> is it limited to the CentOS community?

We don't know. But as upstream does not use xoops, they probably did not
have that issue. Both sites being down was a coincidence.

The only machine which had a problem was the web server. And even there
we are fairly sure by now that the machine was not misused.

Ralph


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Re: [CentOS] software raid1 syncing

2009-07-04 Thread Bob Hoffman
 
> >
> > I have a setup that is raid 1 and put the mirrored drive 
> back in and now it is still showing as degraded saying: 
> raid1: raid set md6 active with 1 out of 2 mirrors with this 
> message on all the raids.i know i am wrong by saying this but 
> i thought putting in the driving and rebooting would start 
> the re syncing itself. what do i have to do to add this back 
> in, i am so confused with this process.
> >
> > centos 4.x

Here is what I did..cent 5.x, but linux commands shoulf work
http://www.bobhoffman.com/wordpress/?page_id=44

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Re: [CentOS] Question on security issue alert from recent centos-announce

2009-07-04 Thread Scott Ehrlich
On Sat, Jul 4, 2009 at 7:55 PM, Ralph Angenendt wrote:
> Scott Ehrlich wrote:
>
>> What is the level and mitigation of damage control - current and
>> future?
>
> What are you trying to get at? This issue *only* concerned our web
> server. None of the machines actually "doing" the distribution are even
> reachable by that machine.

That is what I needed to know.

I re-read the announcement, and the extent of reported damage wasn't
convincingly clear to me that all was well.

Your response above has validated and confirmed the data of concern
(the distro files) are ok (unless we learn otherwise).

All is well.

Thank you.

Scott
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