An 80286 motherboard, NIB

[Electronics Plus]

Found another goodie, saved from the scrapper.

VLSI high performance Baby AT Turbo mainboard 12 MHZ Zero-Wait

Up to 4MB DRAM

6x16-bit and 2x8-bit ISA slots

Will require a separate hard/floppy controller, video card, memory, CPU, and
80287 if you want one.

Supports 360kb, 1.2MB, 720KB, and 1.44MB floppies

Includes manual.

Note: this motherboard does NOT have slots for 30-pin or 72-pin memory.
They all need to be socketed chips, which I do NOT have.

 

Make an offer, take it home!

 

I also have new hard/floppies controllers, still in the box.

 

Cindy Croxton

Electronics Plus

1613 Water Street

Kerrville, TX 78028

830-792-3400 phone

sa...@elecplus.com

AOL IM elcpls

 

the 2 old original IBM machines

[Electronics Plus]

8088 computers, one has 2 floppies, 1 has 1 floppy and 1 hdd.

Both fully tested and functional.  No keyboards now, but there is an
original IBM mono monitor, and the printer.

I do NOT want to ship; these will not survive UPS very well.

We are about 1 hour from San Antonio.

Make a good offer, take them home.

Lots of software to go with these.

Must be gone before Monday.

I will be at the warehouse all weekend.

 

Also 2 NIB 14" amber VGA monitors.

 

Cindy Croxton

Electronics Plus

1613 Water Street

Kerrville, TX 78028

830-792-3400 phone

sa...@elecplus.com

AOL IM elcpls

 

More stuff that can't be shipped

[Electronics Plus]

Couple of Kaypro ( and 2 and a II)

Several old 80386? Compaq luggables

A supersonic testing machine of some sort

A  Sperry mainframe?  Size of washing machine

A plotter with only 10 hours on it

A DG Pent Pro server

An OLD HP emulator with LOTS of thick SCSI type cables

Piles of OLD DEC stuff

Plotters, HP, new in box, 6 or 8 pens, I forget which, IBM badged

Lots of other old things, like the computers and terminals in the Halt TV
show

NIB but very old network stuff

 

No way to ship, someone please bring wallet and truck/trailer J

Must be gone by Monday.

 

 

Cindy Croxton

Electronics Plus

1613 Water Street

Kerrville, TX 78028

830-792-3400 phone

sa...@elecplus.com

AOL IM elcpls

 

Convergent Mighty 2 CPU board

[Electronics Plus]

PN 60-00694, date code 8908.

Does this interest anyone?

About 16 inches by 22 inches, looks to be in good shape.

 

Cindy Croxton

Electronics Plus

1613 Water Street

Kerrville, TX 78028

830-792-3400 phone

sa...@elecplus.com

AOL IM elcpls

 

Convergent board is claimed

[Electronics Plus]

Thanks for the fast responses J

 

I will let the list know if more interesting stuff pops up.

 

 

Cindy Croxton

Electronics Plus

1613 Water Street

Kerrville, TX 78028

830-792-3400 phone

sa...@elecplus.com

AOL IM elcpls

 

more old stuff

[Electronics Plus]

DEC Mate II with butterfly floppies

A set of 8" floppy drives for a Display Writer

A KayPro II and a KayPro II

2 DEC power supplies for mainframes?  PN 874-D

Several 80386? Compaq luggables

Some small OLD HP boxes, will list PN if anyone is interested.

 

I will prob be next week before I can ship these.

 

Cindy Croxton

Electronics Plus

1613 Water Street

Kerrville, TX 78028

830-370-3239 cell

sa...@elecplus.com

AOL IM elcpls

 

RE: more old stuff

[Electronics Plus]

-Original Message-
From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Electronics
Plus
Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2015 1:25 PM
To: 'General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts'
Subject: more old stuff

DEC Mate II with butterfly floppies  __SOLD

A set of 8" floppy drives for a Display Writer

A KayPro II and a KayPro II

2 DEC power supplies for mainframes?  PN 874-D  __SOLD

Several 80386? Compaq luggables

Some small OLD HP boxes, will list PN if anyone is interested.

 

I will prob be next week before I can ship these.

 

Cindy Croxton

Electronics Plus

1613 Water Street

Kerrville, TX 78028

830-370-3239 cell

sa...@elecplus.com

AOL IM elcpls

 




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RE: more old stuff

[Electronics Plus]

A Kaypro II and a KayPro 2.  Both luggables, not sure what the difference
is.

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Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2015 1:55 PM
To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
Subject: Re: more old stuff

On Wed, 27 May 2015, Electronics Plus wrote:

> A KayPro II and a KayPro II
>
...so two IIs? :)

g.

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The small HP stuff

[Electronics Plus]

9121

9123

9114

98700

98710

 

I can tell you the first 3 all used to work, but I do not have keyboards and
monitors here to test now.

I know nothing about the last 2, except they say MAD BUS on the back.

 

Cindy Croxton

Electronics Plus

1613 Water Street

Kerrville, TX 78028

830-370-3239 cell

sa...@elecplus.com

AOL IM elcpls

 

The old Monroe 10 calculator

[Electronics Plus]

Not sure if this is old enough to count?

Warranty expiration date on the back is 5-20-1975 J

Comes with cassette tape.

No AC adapter to test it.

If interested, make offer.

 

Cindy Croxton

Electronics Plus

1613 Water Street

Kerrville, TX 78028

830-370-3239 cell

sa...@elecplus.com

AOL IM elcpls

 

Franklin Ace 1000

[Electronics Plus]

Looks kind of like Apple II, but bigger.  Hasd 1 external 5.25" diskette
drive.  Missing one keycap (the letter F).

Make an offer, I can ship it.  Totally untested J

 

Cindy Croxton

Electronics Plus

1613 Water Street

Kerrville, TX 78028

830-370-3239 cell

sa...@elecplus.com

AOL IM elcpls

 

RE: Hercules Graphic Station (HG1024) drivers or utility disks?

[Electronics Plus]

There is a BBS listed at the bottom of this page for older drivers, maybe
that will help?
http://www.os2museum.com/wp/two-more-tigas/



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From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Ali
Sent: Sunday, June 07, 2015 12:28 PM
To: 'General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts'
Subject: Hercules Graphic Station (HG1024) drivers or utility disks?

Hello All,

My googlefu has failed me in trying to locate actual drivers for download
for this card. This was a TIGA (34010) based card w/ built in VGA (so no
pass through) with 1MB of VRAM and 2MB of DRAM. I believe there were DOS
utilities, Windows 3.x drivers, and SW specific drivers (e.g. AutoCAD). OS/2
or NT drivers would be fantastic but I doubt they are out there. TIA!

-Ali




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RE: Hercules Graphic Station (HG1024) drivers or utility disks?

[Electronics Plus]

Maybe this will do it?
http://files.mpoli.fi/unpacked/software/dos/graphics/gds109.zip/gdsinfo.doc


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From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Ali
Sent: Sunday, June 07, 2015 12:28 PM
To: 'General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts'
Subject: Hercules Graphic Station (HG1024) drivers or utility disks?

Hello All,

My googlefu has failed me in trying to locate actual drivers for download
for this card. This was a TIGA (34010) based card w/ built in VGA (so no
pass through) with 1MB of VRAM and 2MB of DRAM. I believe there were DOS
utilities, Windows 3.x drivers, and SW specific drivers (e.g. AutoCAD). OS/2
or NT drivers would be fantastic but I doubt they are out there. TIA!

-Ali




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TVGA8900C disks

[Electronics Plus]

Sorry, I deleted the posts from earlier from someone looking for TVGA
software.  I have at least the TVGA 8900C Disk 2 Utilities disk, on 5.25"
floppy.  Disk 1 will probably turn up soon.  Is this what was wanted?

 

Cindy Croxton

Electronics Plus

1613 Water Street

Kerrville, TX 78028

830-370-3239 cell

sa...@elecplus.com

AOL IM elcpls

 

RE: DEC Logo (was: Front Panels Personal Update)

[Electronics Plus]

-Original Message-
From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Chris
Osborn
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 9:21 AM
To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
Subject: DEC Logo (was: Front Panels Personal Update)


On Jun 18, 2015, at 4:42 AM, Jonathan Katz  wrote:

> There is a Postscript doc out there with the DEC "D I G I T A L" logo 
> in blocks. That may be a start.
> 
> http://nedbatchelder.com/blog/200712/ancient_history_the_digital_logo.
> html

"The logo up to then had been the letters DEC in blocks the shape of
the plug-in cards that DEC had been producing."

Does anyone have a picture of that? My Google-fu is failing me. I love
cutting vinyl stickers of old logos and I think an original DEC logo would
make a great prize in the contests I run on RetroBattlestations.

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RE: [OT] eBay tale (Was: Re: flea markets (was Re: Vintage Computer Festivals???))

[Electronics Plus]

-Original Message-
From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Mark J.
Blair
Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2016 11:04 AM
To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
Subject: [OT] eBay tale (Was: Re: flea markets (was Re: Vintage Computer
Festivals???))


> On Apr 19, 2016, at 10:09, Ali  wrote:
> 
> Well, eBay is killing itself slowly. Every year they make more and 
> more onerous and anti-buyer rules and policies.

> Warning: Longish anti-eBay tale inbound!

> eBay really has single-handedly destroyed special-interest swap meets in
my experience, and now I wish that we could create some viable alternative >
to eBay for our stuff. But they're just too big to compete with at this
time.

www.zeescripts.com sells an eBay clone for $57, or a multi-vendor ecommerce
for $197. Both are PHP and MySQL based. It is a one-time fee, and all code
is given, so you can modify it to suit your needs. Several templates,
including responsive templates, are included.

If Jay would host the eBay clone on his servers, I would fork over the $57.
We don't really need a huge following, but it would grow very quickly, once
people from the various forums and lists started telling their members about
it.

Perhaps someone with knowledge in these areas would have the time to look
into this?

Cindy Croxton

[OT] Alternatives to eBay

[Electronics Plus]

I have spent over 100 hours looking for viable alternatives to selling
computer stuff. Vintage does not have its own place. Bonanza.com is gaining
popularity, but it is not really IT or electronics oriented. Pricewatch.com
and similar sites only deal in reasonably current equipment. VCF does have a
marketplace section, but (and please don't take offense) it is so
rudimentary, and the listings are so outdated, that is does not seem to be
of much use. How do you find what is still available? True auction or
ecommerce software would eliminate stale WTB and WTS listings. There are
many free places to send XML product lists to be added to their comparison
shopping engines, and all of those are very well indexed by Google. If you
make it easy for people to see that it is an open place to buy and sell, 1
page registration, etc., then it will probably grow quite well. If you
really want it to grow, you can get free press releases with many of the
computer related online magazines and communities. If you don't try it, you
will never know J

 

Thoughts?

 

Cindy Croxton

Electronics Plus

 

[IC] Mulri-Vendor Marketplace

[Electronics Plus]

I am considering getting a multi-vendor marketplace setup. Right now I am
looking for interested people who want to sell a few (or a lot) of vintage
computer items and peripherals, like keyboards. The focus would be on
vintage, although if you have some current things, those would be allowed
too. I want to enable people from all over the world to list their items and
collect payment without all the hassles of setting up an ecommerce site, and
without the huge fees of eBay. Each seller would set their own shipping
rates and countries they will ship to. Payments would go to the seller. The
startup cost for this is about $1600, which I can pay, but in return for
setting everything up and arranging the hosting, etc,. I would ask a small
percentage (maybe 5%) to help defray the costs. 
This is the package I am looking at
<http://www.ixxocart.com/ixxo-multi-vendor>
http://www.ixxocart.com/ixxo-multi-vendor.
Please let me know your thoughts.

 

The objective is to have one central place where people all over the world
can offer others their surplus gear. This is NOT designed to be a
marketplace for current items.

 

Cindy Croxton

Electronics Plus

500 Pershing Ave.

Kerrville, TX 78028

830-370-3239 cell

sa...@elecplus.com

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RE: [IC] Mulri-Vendor Marketplace

[Electronics Plus]

-Original Message-
From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Ali
Sent: Sunday, May 15, 2016 8:01 PM
To: 'General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts'
Subject: RE: [IC] Mulri-Vendor Marketplace

> without the huge fees of eBay. Each seller would set their own 
> shipping rates and countries they will ship to. Payments would go to 
> the seller. The startup cost for this is about $1600, which I can pay, 
> but in return for setting everything up and arranging the hosting, 
> etc,. I would ask a small percentage (maybe 5%) to help defray the 
> costs.

Without wanting to sound negative on this I am not sure what is in it for
the buyers? Most sellers tend to oversell their vintage equipment (we have
all seen phrases like "worked 30 years ago selling as is", "like new but
untested", etc. etc.). Vintage packing also requires expertise and hefty
costs something sellers usually don't want to undertake (I've lost count of
how many broken monitors I have received). Yes they could pass the cost on
to the buyer but when you are already asking $300 for a run of the mill IBM
5150 you are going to be hard pressed to find someone who is also willing to
fork over another $100 to ship it.

Those "hassles" you refer to help buyers feel safe in bidding and buying on
eBay and probably are essential in some of the high crazy final auction
prices you see. Unless you plan to offset those protections somehow (e.g.
all items must start at $0.99 auction and bidding increments are locked at
$0.25, etc, etc) I don't see buyers rushing to pay large sums of cold hard
cash to strangers half a world away without guarantees that are backed by
the auction site. 

Even for the sellers I am not seeing the big draw eBay charges a 10% fee and
you want to charge %5. If they are accepting PP for payments well then the
buyers have a six month return period and many of the same protections, I
mean hassles, as eBay. 

If people really just want to sell (and not think they have hit the jack pot
because they have some tattered boxed non-working monochrome monitor) then
the marketplace on the VCF is great. No fees and no headaches for the
sellers and for the buyers reasonable to low prices (yeah no one is paying a
$1000 for a KB on the marketplace) which is why most sellers don't like it.

I would love to see a specialized vintage bazaar where you can find what you
want at a reasonable price from trusted sources but the reality is that will
never happen in e-commerce. For better and worse eBay has spoiled us and
created certain expectation. The only way we could ever have a decent
vintage exchange would be to have a swap meet which is of course its own
logical nightmare (not to mention the massive over head costs).

Just my two worthless cents...

-Ali

My experience is that eBay charges actually amount to about 38% of the final
sell price. They actually charge a percentage of the shipping fees too, not
to mention fees for pictures, and anything else they can think of. It has
been years since I sold much on eBay, but the experience really soured me.

So far I am only asking people on a couple of trusted lists if they want to
join. Sure eBay has tons of buyers, but if we get participants from all over
the world to sell, then we will have lots of buyers too. Nothing is huge
immediately; it takes time to grow. Rules can always be set for returns, and
if a sellers is worth his salt, he knows how to pack. That being said, I
have been packing things for over 20 years, and UPS still manages to smash
or lose some things. That is just the way it goes.

My thought was that it would be a great thing to have a vintage computer
marketplace, one dedicated spot for items dedicated to old computers and
related items, without having to sort through tons of unrelated stuff. How
many times have you looked up 720K diskettes, and found recipes or something
instead? What is to guarantee that an eBay seller knows what he is doing?

Also, this is a fixed price system, not an auction. I looked at multi-seller
auctions, and most of them fell short in several areas, or else they were
about $10K or more to buy. That is beyond my means. The 5% is just to defray
costs. I am not looking at making money off other sellers. Any effort like
this is a lot of work. People mentioned that they would like to see a
centralized selling system, and I am willing to make the leap, if people
want to join me.

-Cindy

RE: Need Rec: Book to teach about computers and BASIC at an eight year old level

[Electronics Plus]

http://www.amazon.com/Basic-Handbook-Encyclopedia-Computer-Language/dp/09327
60333/ for the basics of BASIC
http://www.amazon.com/BASIC-Computer-Games-Microcomputer-David/dp/0894800523
/ for games he can program in BASIC
from there go to
http://www.amazon.com/Creating-Adventure-Games-Your-Computer/dp/0345318838/
and http://www.amazon.com/More-Basic-Computer-Games-David/dp/0894801376/

One designed for elementary school kids that does not use BASIC is
https://www.amazon.com/Coding-Kids-Dummies-Camille-McCue-ebook/dp/B00MFPZASK
which works on a Mac or PC.


There is nothing like making your first program work to make a youngster
feel like a god!

Cindy

-Original Message-
From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Ali
Sent: Friday, May 27, 2016 12:29 PM
To: 'General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts'
Subject: Need Rec: Book to teach about computers and BASIC at an eight year
old level

So somewhat OT - I've setup an 8 year old w/ an IBM PC XT w/ CGA. To say he
is less than impressed is understating things :). However, I am determined
that he will learn basic computer terminology, architecture, history (i.e.
how we got here) and at least get his feet wet with programming by learning
BASIC this summer.

Apparently teaching is not my strong suite - while I can talk about a larger
number of the above topics, especially at his level, organizing them in a
way to make sense is the problem. I was wondering if anyone could recommend
a good book that gets the basic stuff out of the way (what is the CPU,
memory, storage, etc. what are different the parts called, etc.) and maybe
another one that teaches an intro to BASIC written for a very young reader?
It would be nice if the book is in the PD or at least available as a PDF
that way he can read it on his Kindle. However, I am not averse to buying a
physical new (or used book) either. 

Thanks.

-Ali

RE: Keyboards and Mice (was Model M, NEC ProSpeed)

[Electronics Plus]

-Original Message-
From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Chuck Guzis
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2016 8:38 PM
To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
Subject: Re: Keyboards and Mice (was Model M, NEC ProSpeed)

Okay, time for a big gripe about the Model M--the *&^!~ "feet" that can
be snapped out to raise the top a bit.   They get old and brittle and
the usual solvent cement (methylene dichloride) doesn't touch it.

I much prefer the supports on the Model F, but you can't have everything.

Has anyone located a source for these things.  Maybe 3D printing?

--Chuck

Clickykeyboards.com has replacement "feet" for the Model M. You can email him 
at sa...@clickykeyboards.com.

Cindy

RE: Apple & SGI keyboards (Re: NEC ProSpeed 386)

[Electronics Plus]

-Original Message-
From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Liam Proven
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2016 6:16 PM
To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
Subject: Re: Apple & SGI keyboards (Re: NEC ProSpeed 386)

On 1 June 2016 at 20:57, Swift Griggs  wrote:
> Cool. I didn't know about those early mechanical models. I didn't wake 
> up to macs until about the Mac II days. I did have a friend with a 
> IIGS. I remember playing the Bards' Tale series on there. So, I must 
> have used it before.

Yeah, I think all Apple keyboards /up until/ the Extended II had keyswitches -- 
then they switched to cheaper ones, like most of the industry.

> I was disappointed that they didn't take the IIGS further as a 
> hardware platform, but that's only because I loved my SNES (and yes, 
> also my Genesis). IIRC, the IIGS has the same processor as a SNES with 
> a 16bit bus, no? I like the design of the GS, too.

Interesting -- I didn't know the SNES had a 65816!

I've not touched a //GS since they were new, but yes, they were lovely 
machines. Even if somewhat crippled -- they ran the 65816 at about 2.something 
MHz, when even the early ones could do circa 10-12 MHz and later ones 20-30MHz, 
AIUI.

There are alleged technical reasons, but the main one, I think, and the reason 
for the machine's demise, is that it just competed with the Mac too much.

The IIgs came out in 1986, the Mac II in 1987. So when the IIgs shipped, there 
were no colour-capable Macs (and their sound wasn't that impressive either). 
The IIgs looked like a plausible rival, and could have been expanded into an 
Amiga-alike fairly readily -- and thus threaten the still-new Macintosh.

Damned shame, really.



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The Apple Extended Keyboard II also has mechanical switches, made by Alps. I 
have several of them.

Cindy

cctalk@classiccmp.org

[Electronics Plus]

Who was it has the AT&T, wanted the books and disks? I just found the 5.25"
floppies for AT&T for the C compiler, Pascal, etc.

Maybe it was Seth?

 

Cindy Croxton

Electronics Plus

500 Pershing Ave.

Kerrville, TX 78028

830-370-3239 cell

sa...@elecplus.com

AOL IM elcpls

 

RE: Set of mystery DEC boards: who can help me identifying these?

[Electronics Plus]

I asked my DEC dealer friends, and they said the PN will be on the metal 
handles. If you can provide those, then he can tell u what they went to.

Cindy

-Original Message-
From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of P Gebhardt
Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2016 4:51 PM
To: cctalk@classiccmp.org
Subject: Re: Set of mystery DEC boards: who can help me identifying these?

>>the 50x number with the letter behind it could be a dec board number.
>
>
>The 50 class could be the artwork, and the letter the board rev.  If that is 
>the case, there is probably a 54- class on the other side of the board one 
>number higher. The 54  number is the board with components, and can be tracked 
>down, but not easily. 
>


Thanks for this hint, Paul. I rechecked for numbers, but couldn't any 
54-numbers on the boards.

>>They could have been renamed by another company. 
>


It looks very much to me like original DEC equipment.


>>Any other print in the etch?
>


Interestingly, the prints in the etches are those I stated and all have an X 
prior to the actual number.

>>Any pictures?
>


Yes, I uploaded some at 

http://www.digitalheritage.de/other/dec_mystery_boards/


I still have not clue what these boards are for. Any help is highly appreciated!

Thanks,
Pierre


>>
>
>On Sat, May 28, 2016 at 5:51 AM, P Gebhardt  wrote:
>
>Hello list,
>>
>>I recently got a bunch of boards from somebody who was either not able to 
>>tell me where they were from.
>>The boards seem to be unibus-based with numbers starting with X. I neither 
>>came across these before, nor could find any information in the web about it:
>>
>>Type, P/N , Description
>>X029, 5013132B, AUC interconnect
>>X022, 5012197C, unibuswindow
>>X021, 5012181C, CD ROM control (did that ever exist for unibus?)
>>
>>X020, 5012180B, data path
>>
>>
>>
>>Two 16K mos memory modules M7847 came with the set.
>>
>>
>>No backplane, unfortunately.
>>Any hints about the type of system and application these boards were for?
>>Many thanks for any pointers.
>>
>>Wish a nice weekend to all of you,
>>Pierre
>>
>>
>>---
>>
>>Pierre's collection of classic computers moved to: 
>>http://www.digitalheritage.de
>>
>
>
>

[OT] Beta Max and other OLD still and motion cameras

[Electronics Plus]

There is a pallet of these in St. Louis, MO, going for scrap prices. Some
are more recent. If anyone is interested, I can get you contact info. He
will sell the pallet, but not by the piece. Units are dirty, untested, may
be incomplete, etc. I am not affiliated with the seller in any way.

 

https://s3.amazonaws.com/listingattachments.tradeloop.com/000_21182.JPG

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Cindy Croxton

Electronics Plus

500 Pershing Ave.

Kerrville, TX 78028

830-370-3239 cell

sa...@elecplus.com

AOL IM elcpls

 

RE: Keyboards and the Model M (was Re: NEC ProSpeed 386)

[Electronics Plus]

A 7/32" or 5.5mm socket or nutdriver will do the job nicely.

-Original Message-
From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Peter
Corlett
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2016 6:25 AM
To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
Subject: Re: Keyboards and the Model M (was Re: NEC ProSpeed 386)

On Wed, Jun 15, 2016 at 09:17:01AM -0700, Christopher Satterfield wrote:
> Unicomp keys are still done using dyesub PBT, same as IBMs. Still 
> takes a lot of effort to wear it down, I don't recall ever seeing a 
> board with any wear on the legends.

My teetering pile of junk^W Fine Legacy Equipment that requires some TLC
includes a dead Unicomp Model M where some of the legends have clearly worn
away. The user admits to putting it through the dishwasher at least twice,
having apparently decided it was dishwashable because the first time worked.

Apart from the obvious reason that I just can't be arsed, the main stumbling
block on the repair is the recessed bolts holding it together and me not
having a suitable thin-walled driver to turn them. It's probably a simple
job once I'm actually in.

media and software

[Electronics Plus]

I am going back to Dallas next week to sort 2 pallets of media and software.

The age runs from reels of tape (9 track? Dated 1989 and earlier) to LTO4.

Software, there are a LOT of MS Developer CDs from 2011 and much earlier,
Xilinx CDs, AIX CDs, Solaris CDs (the earliest I noticed off the bat was
version 6) and a lot of Dell server implementation disks. Also some things
on cassette tapes.

 

I need to know what is wanted. After next week it goes in the dumpster.

 

Cindy Croxton

Electronics Plus

500 Pershing Ave.

Kerrville, TX 78028

830-370-3239 cell

sa...@elecplus.com

AOL IM elcpls

 

RE: media and software

[Electronics Plus]

No one has asked for them yet. Some were in very poor shape, broken reels with 
tape falling off, so I discarded those. On others the reels are intact and the 
tape has not been exposed. Any info on these is supposed to be scrubbed, since 
the backups contain proprietary info.

-Original Message-
From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Nigel Williams
Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 6:22 PM
To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
Subject: Re: media and software

On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 12:03 PM, Electronics Plus  wrote:
> The age runs from reels of tape (9 track? Dated 1989 and earlier) to LTO4.

Have you had interest in the 9-track tapes as yet? I would coordinate 
(contribute to postage) with someone so they can be saved and inspected.

old friend is slimming down the warehouse

[Electronics Plus]

An old friend of mine in GA is slimming down his warehouse. I know a long
time ago people sent me some pics and lists of things wanted, but that was a
long time ago. If you are looking for old servers, big blue IBM things, DEC
stuff, etc., please take a few minutes to send the following info to
oldthingswanted...@gmail.com

 

The name of the item

A short description

A link to a pic, or attach a pic

What you want to pay for it

The expected condition (tested, old and dirty is fine, etc.)

His health is not the best, but he wants this stuff to go to people who will
appreciate it, rather than by the pound.

He will do his best to answer everyone.

 

Inventory ranges from old typewriters to mainframes, and everything in
between.

 

Cindy Croxton

Electronics Plus

RE: old friend is slimming down the warehouse

[Electronics Plus]

He does not have a list. Warehouse is about 50k sq feet, and was started in the 
1970s.
Like I said, his health is not good, but he wants to find a good home for these.
If sending lists does not work, I can ask him to pick some things out and send 
me description and pics so I can post here?
He does not have pricing in mind, so please be fair when you ask or offer.

-Original Message-
From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Guy Sotomayor 
Jr
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2016 2:35 PM
To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
Subject: Re: old friend is slimming down the warehouse

Is there any sort of list of what he has or are we just to send out our “wish 
list”
and see if he has it?

TTFN - Guy

> On Jun 21, 2016, at 12:27 PM, Electronics Plus  wrote:
> 
> An old friend of mine in GA is slimming down his warehouse. I know a 
> long time ago people sent me some pics and lists of things wanted, but 
> that was a long time ago. If you are looking for old servers, big blue 
> IBM things, DEC stuff, etc., please take a few minutes to send the 
> following info to oldthingswanted...@gmail.com
> 
> 
> 
> The name of the item
> 
> A short description
> 
> A link to a pic, or attach a pic
> 
> What you want to pay for it
> 
> The expected condition (tested, old and dirty is fine, etc.)
> 
> His health is not the best, but he wants this stuff to go to people 
> who will appreciate it, rather than by the pound.
> 
> He will do his best to answer everyone.
> 
> 
> 
> Inventory ranges from old typewriters to mainframes, and everything in 
> between.
> 
> 
> 
> Cindy Croxton
> 
> Electronics Plus
> 

RE: old friend is slimming down the warehouse

[Electronics Plus]

I have sent Todd his contact info. He is willing to let one person come in and 
take pics and post to the group. He does NOT want to move one or 2 items of the 
most value; he wants to move out pallets of stuff. He is not closing shop; he 
just wants to move out some really old equip that has been there for years.

He did tell me one of the goodies he has is a Commodore 64 new in the box with 
the monitor.

Cindy

-Original Message-
From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of William 
Donzelli
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2016 2:50 PM
To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
Subject: Re: old friend is slimming down the warehouse

> Cindy,  I'm in Atlanta... where in GA is he?  Maybe I could go meet 
> him somewhere and take pictures?

Yes, please. Gold star to you if you go.

--
Will

Seagate 50-pin SCSI drives

[Electronics Plus]

A reseller in GA is dumping some online inventory that they used to sell on
ebay. Included are 

23 SEAGATE ST32500N HARD DRIVE

 

If interested, email to Mike Roetzer [m...@tbfcomputing.com]

 

Not affiliated with the seller at all.

 

Cindy Croxton

RE: Seagate 50-pin SCSI drives

[Electronics Plus]

They are no longer selling these on ebay. Sorry, I don't know their seller
ID.

Cindy

-Original Message-
From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Chris
Hanson
Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2016 3:20 PM
To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
Subject: Re: Seagate 50-pin SCSI drives

Are they dumping it on eBay, or did they used to sell it on eBay?

If the former, do you know their eBay ID?

  -- Chris

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 19, 2016, at 12:40 PM, Electronics Plus  wrote:
> 
> A reseller in GA is dumping some online inventory that they used to 
> sell on ebay. Included are
> 
> 23 SEAGATE ST32500N HARD DRIVE
> 
> 
> 
> If interested, email to Mike Roetzer [m...@tbfcomputing.com]
> 
> 
> 
> Not affiliated with the seller at all.
> 
> 
> 
> Cindy Croxton
> 

more vintage computer stuff

[Electronics Plus]

Another fellow is slimming his warehouse. There are 4 pallets, and I have a
spreadsheet. Every item has been tested, and there are comments, from "Works
OK" to "loud noise and smells burnt".

Primarily old Apple gear, but there are also 2 NIB Tandon TM848-E 8" floppy
drives. If you want to see the spreadsheet and the pics, send me an email.

 

Cindy Croxton

Electronics Plus

500 Pershing Ave.

Kerrville, TX 78028

830-370-3239 cell

sa...@elecplus.com

AOL IM elcpls

 

RE: more vintage computer stuff

[Electronics Plus]

Sorry guys, but it seems there was a take all buyer from CA who took the
entire lot. It is no longer available.

 

Cindy Croxton

Electronics Plus

500 Pershing Ave.

Kerrville, TX 78028

830-370-3239 cell

sa...@elecplus.com

AOL IM elcpls

 

RE: more vintage computer stuff

[Electronics Plus]

This last batch with spreadsheet was not from GA, it was from St. Louis. So all 
the stuff you saw Todd, is pretty much still there.
The heat is killing them, almost literally. The temp in the warehouse reaches 
above 115 this summer, and it is making the workers sick.
Rich did say he reached out to several people, but never heard back from them.

-Original Message-
From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Todd 
Killingsworth
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2016 12:47 PM
To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
Subject: Re: more vintage computer stuff

...and since Cindy's contact has liquidated his Mac stash...
Does anyone know a good place to go scouting for a Mac SE/30 around Atlanta?  
I'd like to play with Apple's Smalltalk, and the iMacs are lonely.  :D

I'm aware of EPay, but maybe its possible to avoid shipping?


Todd Killingsworth

On Thu, Jul 28, 2016 at 1:38 PM, Al Kossow  wrote:

>
>
> On 7/28/16 9:50 AM, Todd Killingsworth wrote:
>
> > Interesting to look over his stuff, but if he's sold anything I've 
> > not heard about it.
> >
>
> Thanks. I've been working on terminal archiving and simulation the 
> past couple of weeks, and I'm sure there are parts in there I could 
> use.
>
> Terminals have reached the other side of the bathtub curve, and 
> keyboard prices are insane. I've been really disappointed in the ones 
> I've been buying off eBay.
> One of them was literally filled with sawdust, another covered in 
> machine oil from it being used in a machine shop.
>
>
>

RE: more vintage computer stuff

[Electronics Plus]

If you are looking for terminal keyboards, you might subscribe to the RSS on my 
site, elecshopper.com. There are about 10 different terminal boards there now, 
and I usually add 20-30 items more per day (although not all keyboards). All of 
the RSS feeds are available at https://elecshopper.com/rss

Sorry if posting my site is not allowed. If so, please delete this post.

-Original Message-
From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Al Kossow
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2016 12:38 PM
To: cctalk@classiccmp.org
Subject: Re: more vintage computer stuff



On 7/28/16 9:50 AM, Todd Killingsworth wrote:

> Interesting to look over his stuff, but if he's sold anything I've not 
> heard about it.
>

Thanks. I've been working on terminal archiving and simulation the past couple 
of weeks, and I'm sure there are parts in there I could use.

Terminals have reached the other side of the bathtub curve, and keyboard prices 
are insane. I've been really disappointed in the ones I've been buying off eBay.
One of them was literally filled with sawdust, another covered in machine oil 
from it being used in a machine shop.

RE: more vintage computer stuff

[Electronics Plus]

Thanks Jay! I enjoy helping old things find a new home.
It is amazing to me what goes to recyclers!
I also participate in at least one of the "dreaded" keyboard forums.
Why are they so dreaded to you guys? I have found them to be fantastically 
helpful!

Cindy

-Original Message-
From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Jay West
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2016 2:16 PM
To: 'General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts'
Subject: RE: more vintage computer stuff

Cindy wrote

Sorry if posting my site is not allowed. If so, please delete this post.


Cindy - thanks for your post.

I have seen on occasion a past commercial seller (not here any longer) not fit 
in well with the mentality of this list. You are not one of those. 

You're a perfect model of how a commercial seller can be a fantastic 
contributor to the list. I'm glad you're here, and appreciate the way you 
participate!

Same goes for Paul A and a couple others.

J

the value of old test and repair equipment

[Electronics Plus]

I had to pass up a large qty of old test equip at the recycler last time
because they wanted too much for it. For instance, an old HP signal
generator would have cost me $25, with no way to test it, and no guarantees
that it was complete or working. So my question is, does as-is old test and
repair equip that won't be particularly cheap have interest to you guys?

 

Cindy Croxton

Electronics Plus

500 Pershing Ave.

Kerrville, TX 78028

830-370-3239 cell

sa...@elecplus.com

AOL IM elcpls

 

RE: more vintage computer stuff

[Electronics Plus]

Televideo keyboards are kind of rare. Qume I believe were rubber dome, so I 
usually don't pick them up. People always ask for the mechanical boards.

-Original Message-
From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Al Kossow
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2016 4:01 PM
To: cctalk@classiccmp.org
Subject: Re: more vintage computer stuff



On 7/28/16 12:20 PM, Electronics Plus wrote:

> I also participate in at least one of the "dreaded" keyboard forums.
> Why are they so dreaded to you guys? I have found them to be fantastically 
> helpful!
> 

Well, I find them helpful as well, like the guys who have reversed-engineered 
the Wyse keyboard protocol and built keyboard adapters.

All I've noticed is you don't see terminals with keyboards any more, especially 
ones with ALPS or Cherry keyswitches, and while you see lots of listings for 
Wyse keyboards because of the demand for the keyswitches, you see almost none 
for Televideo and especially Qume.

Since they are all out of production now, it will just end up in the future 
that you'll just use whatever PS/2 or USB keyboard you can find with an adapter 
to the original protocol.

RE: Pictures per previous post

[Electronics Plus]

Except that there is no link? I know someone who wants the RT computers!

Cindy

-Original Message-
From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Doug Fields
Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2016 12:47 PM
To: cctalk@classiccmp.org
Subject: Pictures per previous post

You can view my shared album on the web:

Classic Computers

Apparently I can do this easily through iCloud. The joy of modern computers.
:) Cheers, Doug



--
Sent from my iPhone

Atlanta warehouse

[Electronics Plus]

I can see that one day's notice did not do much good. I am sorry, but
Atlanta is over 1500 miles from home for me, and I usually do not get much
notice. Next time I will try to give at least a week notice.

 

There can be absolutely no viewing on the weekends. That is out of the
question for him.

 

It is MUCH easier for him if I am there when people want to come and
scrounge. He is so busy, and his warehouse manager is usually tied up with
orders, and for safety reasons they can't just turn people loose. I am
usually there every couple of months.

 

Now that we have established that people will be allowed to come and choose
things, he is having the warehouse guys sort things into categories. Things
he wants to keep, and those he is willing to part with. Right now they are
scrapping all the HP 700/96, and the Wyse 60s. I asked him to hold onto a
dozen or so working Wyse 60s with keyboards for about 30 days. He will ship
them. Tested and working with complete tested keyboard he wants $80 per set
plus shipping.

 

The Teletype keyboard and the small keyboard have been sold. The Lear
terminal and the Burroughs are for sale, but not cheap. The Lear has been
repaired and is working. The Burroughs keyboard he wants $250 for. He did
not specify a price for the Lear, but you can always make a good offer.

 

Cindy Croxton

Electronics Plus

500 Pershing Ave.

Kerrville, TX 78028

830-370-3239 cell

sa...@elecplus.com

AOL IM elcpls

 

RE: Atlanta Open House Tomorrow

[Electronics Plus]

There are a couple of 56K-xxx AT&T keyboards there, but I counted, and there 
are only 6 wires in the female connector. There is not a fixed cable.

-Original Message-
From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Ethan Dicks
Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2016 8:25 AM
To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
Subject: Re: Atlanta Open House Tomorrow

On Wed, Aug 10, 2016 at 8:15 PM, Al Kossow  wrote:
> If anyone goes there would you PLEASE look for a Qume 201 and 
> Televideo 965 keyboard for me

Likewise, I'm looking for a couple of AT&T/Teletype keyboards for my 5620/Blit 
and my 730+.  They do _not_ have a round DIN plug, which distinguishes them 
from 98% of what's out there.  They have an 8p8c connector ("RJ-45").

There are several matching keyboards with different numbers of keys (~98-103).  
56K-341-AAN is one part number.  Keyboards that will work are the same ones 
used on the AT&T 4410 and Teletype 5410 terminal.

I'm also seeing part numbers in the technical drawings 
(http://www.brouhaha.com/~eric/retrocomputing/att/5620/att5620_eng.pdf
pp 87-95) like:
 56K224
 56K229
 56K230
 410896
 410967

It appears to have 6 of the 8 pins in use - serial in, serial out,
+5V, -12V, signal GND, and frame GND (it makes its own -5V for the MCU
from a zener diode on the -12V line).  All of this plus the 1.8432MHz crystal, 
suggest to me a simple async protocol.  This would make a keyboard emulator 
simple to construct once someone has sniffed the protocol.

One is good.  Two is better.

Thanks,

-ethan

RE: Atlanta Open House Tomorrow

[Electronics Plus]

There are a couple of Qume keyboards there, but I don't know the PN you
need. There is also a Televideo 965 terminal and keyboard.

-Original Message-
From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Al Kossow
Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2016 7:16 PM
To: cctalk@classiccmp.org
Subject: Re: Atlanta Open House Tomorrow

If anyone goes there would you PLEASE look for a Qume 201 and Televideo 965
keyboard for me

On 8/10/16 4:25 PM, Jay West wrote:
> I'm reposting this because I set the time on the classiccmp server 
> incorrectly (forgot to add 12). Just in case the important post below 
> showed up earlier in folks inbox, I wanted to make sure it showed up.
> 
>  
> 
> I'm posting this on behalf of Cindy at Elecplus
> 
>  
> 
> I can't post to cctalk when I am away from home. I am in Atlanta, and 
> the owner of the warehouse hs agreed to let people come in tomorrow. 
> Please can you post the following for me?
> 
>  
> 
> First come first served, no shipping on the really cheap items. Model 
> M
> 101/103 terminal keyboards $10 each, no cracked cases, may not have 
> complete caps. Hundreds of keyboards for other terminals starting at 
> $30 each, tested and complete. A full pallet of AEK 1 and 2 keyboards
> 
>  
> 
> More expensive items include a Burroughs keyboard, complete and in 
> good condition, a 1978 terminal in working condition, and the 
> following terminals/keyboards, tested, no screen burn, keyboards are 
> complete. DEC
> VT100 (no keyboards), 220, 320, 420.Wyse 50 and 60 with keyboards. 
> Qume 62 and 101+ with keyboards.Link MC2 and 3 with keyboards. ADDS 
> 4000 with keyboards. HP 700/22, 700/43, 700/60, 700/90, 700/92, 
> 700/94, 700/96 with keyboards.
> 
>  
> 
> LOTS of working vintage test equip. Some pics are here:
> 
> https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BxqLDyoLYuCKbkEwdmlST2lKaUU
> 
>  
> 
> Thank you!
> 
>  
> 
> Cindy
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 

RE: "Unix Implementation" paper in HTML

[Electronics Plus]

I emailed you the PDF. Hope that helps.

Cindy

-Original Message-
From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of jim stephens
Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2016 8:13 AM
To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
Subject: Re: "Unix Implementation" paper in HTML



On 8/23/2016 5:53 AM, Liam Proven wrote:
> On 23 August 2016 at 13:44, Noel Chiappa  wrote:
>> "UNIX
>> Implementation" by Ken Thompson.
> This one?
>
> https://www.researchgate.net/publication/2866044_UNIX_implementation
>
> The other, you'll need to give the exact title/author...
>
Is that this paper (PDF)?

https://users.soe.ucsc.edu/~sbrandt/221/Papers/History/thompson-bstj78.pdf

Any way to get the above?  It is at some site that isn't responding with 
anything useful for me.
thanks
Jim

complete displaywriter set in Canada

[Electronics Plus]

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/201655050108?rmvSB=true

 

I can't believe no one has bid on this! I hope it goes to someone as the
complete set, not just for the keyboard!

 

Cindy Croxton

The huge lot that had the NIB 8" floppies is now on ebay

[Electronics Plus]

http://www.ebay.com/itm/-/191960867958

 

Apparently the buyer backed out, and the entire lot is now available as ONE
lot. There is no reserve.

 

Cindy Croxton

 

 

RE: The huge lot that had the NIB 8" floppies is now on ebay

[Electronics Plus]

-Original Message-
From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of jim
stephens
Sent: Monday, September 05, 2016 11:23 PM
To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
Subject: Re: The huge lot that had the NIB 8" floppies is now on ebay

Yes, we do.  I had not found this ad and it is in Kansas City, where I have
a warehouse.

Cindy, I didn't see the 8" floppies though.  I also thought this was in
Colorado, but see it listed as KC now, though that may only be another
auction.  This unfortunately isn't up my alley for collecting.
thanks
jim

The spreadsheet is available at the bottom of the listing. The floppies
should be there. Please note there should also be several tabs to the
spreadsheet.

Cindy

RE: 50 yrs. of Star Trek!

[Electronics Plus]

My physician uses a Palm Pilot type device specifically to look up medication 
doses and drug interactions. He knows the fellow who wrote the program, who had 
the device that was used in sick bay in mind when he wrote it. The telemetry 
unit I wore in the hospital last week is another take off on the same idea. 
Portable insulin pumps that constantly measure your glucose levels and deliver 
insulin accordingly are another. Walkie-talkies and cell phones, microwave 
ovens, weighted and magnetic boots, transponders that translate (cell phone 
apps) and find your companions (GPS), officers of all genders and varying 
races...this list goes on. I am still waiting for the teleportation; that would 
be my dream! Then again, it would also be nice to come home at the end of the 
day and tell the food production unit on the wall exactly what I want for 
dinner, and a few minutes later it is delivered.

pictures of IBM 6110344 and 6110345

[Electronics Plus]

I am getting 3 of these ready for sale, and all but 1 of the online pics I
see of the boards do NOT have a PA3 or a NumLock key.

Does anyone here have a good high res pic of these 2 complete keyboards, so
that I can know what is supposed to be on there?

 

Many thanks!

 

Cindy Croxton

RE: pictures of IBM 6110344 and 6110345

[Electronics Plus]

Subject: Re: pictures of IBM 6110344 and 6110345

>
> I am getting 3 of these ready for sale, and all but 1 of the online 
> pics I see of the boards do NOT have a PA3 or a NumLock key.
>
> Does anyone here have a good high res pic of these 2 complete 
> keyboards, so that I can know what is supposed to be on there?
>

Not exactly what you asked for but this does have have a picture including
PA3.

http://superuser.com/questions/290814/purpose-of-a-mystery-key-on-an-ibm-pc-
3270-keyboard

Regards,
Peter Coghlan.

Wow, I feel like I opened a whole new can of worms!  Thank you, Peter!

very cheap eBay.de Apple offerings

[Electronics Plus]

http://www.ebay.de/sch/i.html/?_saslop=1
 &_sasl=tom201513

Scroll down for a box of 5.25" floppies for Apple with no bids yet.

 

Cindy Croxton

 

RE: Archived viruses, was Re: Reasonable price for a complete SOL-20 system?

[Electronics Plus]

-Original Message-
From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Liam Proven
Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2016 9:37 AM
To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
Subject: Re: Archived viruses, was Re: Reasonable price for a complete SOL-20 
system?

On 22 October 2016 at 21:21, Fred Cisin  wrote:
> On Sat, 22 Oct 2016, Liam Proven wrote:
>>
>> :-)
>> A good 5-6y or more ago I restored an old Mac Classic II a friend 
>> gave me. I got it dual-booting System 6.0.8 and 7.1 and had both of 
>> them online via an Asanté EtherSCSI interface. To do this involved 
>> downloading a lot of ancient Mac software on my B&W G3 under OS X, 
>> and putting it on Zip disk, then putting the Zip media in the Classic 
>> II's SCSI Zip drive.
>> One of the Systems on the Classic was repurposed from another Mac and 
>> included some ancient Mac antivirus program -- I forget which one, 
>> maybe Disinfectant. I was glad of it, though, as it triggered and 
>> found one of my downloads was infected with an equally ancient Mac 
>> virus.
>
>
> But "Marketing" convinced the public that Macs were IMMUNE TO GETTING
> VIRUSES!:-)


No no no -- hang on.

Classic MacOS was appallingly vulnerable. It had no user-account security at 
all, and every disk had a tiny bit of code read and executed when it was 
mounted, AIUI, to customise the icon etc.

Personal computer viruses more or less originated on the classic Mac.

But OS X is effectively immune to all of them, and AFAIK there are no true 
viruses for OS X even now. But you need to use a narrow strict definition. 
There are many Trojans, but they need to social-engineer or trick the user into 
agreeing, clicking OK and entering a password.
That's not a virus if it requires user interaction to propagate.

Ditto there are sploits and worms that attack OS X servers, but since OS X 
servers are fairly rare, so are the sploits. And OS X has a much-modified 
FreeBSD userland underneath it, and some of those componets are vulnerable too.

So it's a bit of a hair-splitting argument.

What it is _not_ is plain marketing lies, such as "Windows NT is a microkernel".

--
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Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk • GMail/Twitter/Facebook/Flickr: lproven
Skype/MSN: lpro...@hotmail.com • LinkedIn/AIM/Yahoo: liamproven
Cell/Mobiles: +44 7939-087884 (UK) • +420 702 829 053 (ČR)

I still have sealed packs of installation software for very early laptops with 
DOS. Some of them probably have the Stoned virus on them. I used to have 
factory original CD install disks from Zip drives, but I threw them all out, 
because they were all infected with viruses. Iomega was kind enough to send me 
clean install disks, after I mailed them back one of the infected disks. That 
prompted a huge recall, back in the 90s. I remember seeing web screens in the 
early 2000s from viruses; one was a picture of Zeus holding a lightning bolt 
with the caption "Watch out for Zeus, he will kick your ass!" Another was a 
picture of the old Kilroy was here, but had the caption of Kiljoy was here. 
Kiljoy would stay on for about 5 seconds, and then gradually all the network 
services would be stopped and then deleted from the computer.

RE: Time to get rid of weird connected appliances! <> check this

[Electronics Plus]

In 2011 Barnaby Jack warned of insulin pump attacks 
(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barnaby_Jack) yet in 2016 J&J had to warn their 
customers that they were vulnerable to attack 
(https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20161004/06242635699/johnson-johnson-warns-insulin-pump-owners-they-could-be-killed-hackers.shtml).
 When are companies going to get compliant with security?

-Original Message-
From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Alexandre Souza
Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2016 2:36 PM
To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
Subject: Re: Time to get rid of weird connected appliances! <> 
check this

A good linux machine running a firewall wouldn't make all of this work 
flawlessly?


2016-10-23 17:31 GMT-02:00 Chuck Guzis :

> On 10/23/2016 01:29 AM, Guy Dawson wrote:
> > It's not so much an attack on IoT as with IoT. The worm's ( assuming 
> > a compromised IoT device is used to compromise others - I'm not sure 
> > about this) job is to make IoT devices available to a control system 
> > so that IoT devices can be used to generate the loads needed in DDOS 
> > attacks.
> >
> > The attackers would rather you did not know your IoT devices were 
> > compromised as that way you'll leave them connected to the Internet 
> > and under their control.
>
> I contrast NFC and IoT.  At least to me, "IoT" implies an 
> Internet-connected device.  NFC implies only that there's a device 
> that can communicate wirelessly with nearby devices.
>
> Having said that, if one prowls the web for vulnerabilities in, say, 
> DSL modems, it's shocking.  Many, if not most, are running some sort 
> of Linux, usually BusyBox (not known for its security).  There are 
> millions of the things out there, many with telnet enabled and still 
> with the default password.  The ISPs who distribute these things 
> usually view them as "black boxes" and apparently have little interest in 
> security.
>
> Whether or not some malefactor can hack a Carrier or Trane connected 
> thermostat is something that I've not researched.
>
> --Chuck
>

old DEC drives available

[Electronics Plus]

  _  

WTS the following items:


3

Used

DEC

DSP3107L

1.07GB 3.5IN 3H SCSI 50PIN


4

Used

DEC

RH20E-DB

510 Meg SCSI Drive -DSP 3201L RH31K-AW

  _  

Jim Firlik 
Excess Enterprises
(817) 267-9700
email: j...@4excess.com 

  _  

I have no idea what he wants for them. Not affiliated with the seller. I
just know these are getting harder to find.

 

 

Cindy Croxton

Electronics Plus

 

dot matrix printers to be thrown out near Denver

[Electronics Plus]

Might already be gone, located in Longmont near Denver. Give him a call!

 

$25 - Epson DXF5000 ( Longmont ) near denver 

We have some wide carriage dot matrix printers. They work and they are worth
next to nothing. 
Come and get them intact or search the dumpster for parts

If I have to throw these IBM, Epson and OKI dot matrix printers in the trash
- they will be in pieces no larger than a candy bar. I promise to break them
up so that no one can ever use them.

I might give them away for free, but our dumpster will contain tiny bits if
you think waiting is the better plan

303-651-7919
634 Main Longmont

 

 

 

Woz signed Apple IIGS system for pickup only near Dallas

[Electronics Plus]

http://dallas.craigslist.org/ndf/sys/5890446928.html

 

 

Refurb Panasonic and Okidata dot matrix

[Electronics Plus]

1

OKIDATA

ML320


5

OKIDATA

ML321


1

OKIDATA

ML320 TURBO


1

OKIDATA

390 TURBO


1

PANASONIC

KX-PP1123



 

I know that some people were looking for dot matrix printers. This fellow
has refurbished units in stock that he is looking to clear out.

Not affiliated with the seller, and I have not dealt with him before.

 

Nick Ratansi
CAO, Inc
tel 718 939 7976
dir 718 886 2025
n...@compuaddons.com

 

Cindy Croxton

Vintage computer keyboards, computers, and other stuff

[Electronics Plus]

Some is not so vintage, but most of it is. https://elecshopper.com 

Yes, I will ship internationally, but the value on the customs forms will
reflect the actual price paid, as do the invoices.

Look around, maybe find something interesting.

The RSS feeds are at https://elecshopper.com/RSS if you want to keep an eye
on new additions, sales, etc.

More products are usually added every day.

 

Cindy Croxton

Electronics Plus

1613 Water Street

Kerrville, TX 78028

830-370-3239 cell

sa...@elecplus.com

AOL IM elcpls

 

Tested Wyse and IBM terminals and keyboards available

[Electronics Plus]

If you are looking for tested working legacy IBM terminals with tested
complete M122 keyboards, please contact
 bfl...@southtexasproducts.com. He
will sell the tested monitors with kbds for $85 plus shipping. Monitors
might have slight screen burn, but nothing really bad. He will also do
international shipping. He has 3151, 3196, 3197, and similar ones. Email for
complete list and pricing. Some older terminals available, but maybe not the
matching keyboards. No beam spring terminals or keyboards, no SSK, no
unsavers, etc. Just M122 with terminals.

Edit: Some Wyse terminals with kbds also available.

 

Cindy Croxton

RE: Compaq foam rot keyboard SOLVED

[Electronics Plus]

-Original Message-
From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Al Kossow
Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2017 10:16 AM
To: cctalk@classiccmp.org
Subject: Re: Compaq foam rot keyboard SOLVED



On 1/24/17 12:24 AM, Randy Dawson wrote:
> take a look in you junk bin for a IBM PC compatible keyboard, it worked
for me.
> 

The BTC 5339R is a bit more common on eBay and is foam and foil
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=77030.msg1935636#msg1935636

I didn't see it anywhere on geekhack, it would be nice if they had a table
of what BTC keyboards were foam and foil.

https://deskthority.net/wiki/Category:BTC_keyboards
https://deskthority.net/wiki/BTC_foam_and_foil

DT will tell you which ones are foam and foil.

old 5.25" floppies 1S/2D

[Electronics Plus]

I have a carton of old 1S/2D floppy diskettes here. I used them 28 years ago
to make backups.

I have no use for them, and I have no idea if they still work.

They will need to be formatted. There are in boxes of 10. A few might be
2S/2D.

FFS to a good home.

 

Cindy Croxton

Electronics Plus

1613 Water Street

Kerrville, TX 78028

RE: Need manual for a floppy drive...

[Electronics Plus]

I lost track of the origin of this discussion. Is the drive that help is
needed for a JU-455 or a JU-475?

Cindy

-Original Message-
From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of geneb
Sent: Monday, January 30, 2017 10:51 AM
To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
Subject: Re: Need manual for a floppy drive...

On Mon, 30 Jan 2017, Tony Duell wrote:

>>>
>> The activity light doesn't work in either setting.
>
> Now I am confused...
>
> I've downloaded the Shugart 455 service manual from bitsavers. By the 
> looks of things the jumper in question is the one to the left of the 
> control logic ASIC, between a 74LS38 and a 74LS74. It has 2 positions, 
> to the left DS (Drive Select), to the right UO (In use).
>
> According to the schematic, in the DS position, the LED is not

Well like I mentioned previously, the logic board in the Panasonic drive
looks *nothing* like the one in the Shugart manual. :)

g.

--
Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007
http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind.
http://www.diy-cockpits.org/coll - Go Collimated or Go Home.
Some people collect things for a hobby.  Geeks collect hobbies.

ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database
for the masses, not the classes.
http://scarlet.deltasoft.com - Get it _today_!

RE: Need manual for a floppy drive...

[Electronics Plus]

http://blog.3b2.sk/igi/file.axd?file=2015%2F5%2F5.25-jumpers.pdf


Scroll down the page a little bit for the JU-455-5. The letters after that
usually just designated the color of bezel and who it was made for, if part
of a large OEM run.

Cindy

-Original Message-
From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of geneb
Sent: Monday, January 30, 2017 11:44 AM
To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
Subject: RE: Need manual for a floppy drive...

On Mon, 30 Jan 2017, Electronics Plus wrote:

> I lost track of the origin of this discussion. Is the drive that help 
> is needed for a JU-455 or a JU-475?
>
It's a JU-455-5 AAG, Cindy.  (built by Panasonic)

g.

--
Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007
http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind.
http://www.diy-cockpits.org/coll - Go Collimated or Go Home.
Some people collect things for a hobby.  Geeks collect hobbies.

ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database
for the masses, not the classes.
http://scarlet.deltasoft.com - Get it _today_!

Wyse keyboards and their variants

[Electronics Plus via cctalk]

Wyse, Link, etc.

Does anyone still use these on actual terminals?

I have some guys coming to scrounge on Saturday, and they want them for is
to desolder the switches.

If you need some for actual use, please let me know the exact model you want
so it does not get parted out.

 

Cindy Croxton

Electronics Plus

 

A treasure trove in Dallas

[Electronics Plus via cctalk]

If you live in the DFW area, and have a truck and a strong back, there are
some VERY interesting items.

A DEC cabinet taller than I am, with a front panel of switches. I asked him
if the panel was rust or orange, but he said he thought it was dark, like
brown. The cabinet was backwards, and there was too much stuff in the way to
turn it around.

3 Sun cabinets full of stuff, and a SparcStation 20.

Several (at least 4) IBM server cabinets. Not the blue 6 foot kind; these
are abt waist high.

A cabinet about waist high the said Computer Control (I think) with switches
and LEDs. Too heavy to move into the light to take pics.

A complete Data Products B300 line printer.

 

If you are interested in these, send me an email, and I will give you the
contact info.

The warehouse is very dirty, and the aisles are very small. A large person
will not fit.

 

Cindy Croxton

 

RE: Computer pickup

[Electronics Plus via cctalk]

Richard Byron
Computer Reset
9525 Skillman St
Dallas, TX
214-348-6484

Richard is one of the nicest old men I have ever met! He has been repairing
computers and terminals since 1983.
Please be aware that if you have allergies, PLEASE take Benadryl or
something before you go.
The aisles are only about 2 feet wide, and crammed full of everything. The
place stinks, like something crawled under a pallet and died.
There are bugs everywhere, and one pallet full of termites.

Even so, it is a real treasure trove. I hope you and some other guys can
rescue the stuff before more deterioration. He is looking for at least $1000
per cabinet.

Cindy

-Original Message-
From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Gil Carrick
via cctalk
Sent: Friday, April 21, 2017 2:01 PM
To: cctalk@classiccmp.org
Subject: Computer pickup

Cindy Croxton

 

I am interested in the stuff. Please contact me.

 

Gil

--

A. G. (Gil) Carrick, Director

Museum of Information Technology at Arlington

1012 Portofino Drive

Arlington, TX 76012

817-994-9213 (cell) - gil.carrick (Skype) http://MIT-A.com

 

360KB and 1.2MB floppy drives

[Electronics Plus via cctalk]

https://www.linkedin.com/in/tecserve/

 

This guy had hundreds of them, will ship internationally. He is in Uruguay.

 

Cindy Croxton

RE: Serial keyboards

[Electronics Plus via cctalk]

It is not often you find a 9-pin serial board with Windows keys!
I might have some AT&T serial boards in the back, but I don't think they work 
on DEC machines.

Cindy

-Original Message-
From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Henry Bond via 
cctalk
Sent: Monday, June 05, 2017 4:53 PM
To: cctalk@classiccmp.org
Subject: Serial keyboards 

I have been looking around the Internet for a good resource on serial keyboards 
and have found that I have come up against something of a brick wall, I have 
found this device Look at this on eBay  http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/112428059043. 

So list, which keyboards are your favourite, which feel the best and which are 
relatively easy to get hold of? 


-- H

RE: Serial keyboards

[Electronics Plus via cctalk]

Do you want complete terminals and keyboards? The reason they like the 
keyboards is because of the feel of the typing. Sometimes they come with the 
monitors, and they have no use for them, so they get dumpstered. If you look on 
elecshopper.com I did have about 20 of these heavy old boards, but none at the 
present time. I do know where some of the monitors are, but not keyboards.

Cindy

-Original Message-
From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Guy Sotomayor 
Jr via cctalk
Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2017 4:49 PM
To: Anthony DeStefano; General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
Subject: Re: Serial keyboards


> On Jun 6, 2017, at 2:46 PM, Anthony DeStefano via cctalk 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>> On Jun 6, 2017, at 4:40 PM, dwight via cctalk  wrote:
>> 
>> If you look on the ebay for a dolch ethernet sniffer, you'll see
>> 
>> many with no keyboard.
>> 
>> Why would someone separate the keyboard from a box when it
>> 
>> is clipped onto it?
>> 
>> These are not just any keyboard. They have custom shaped cases
>> 
>> and connector specifically for that model dolch.
>> 
>> What would anyone want with those keyboards?
>> 
> 
> Unfortunately, it's because the mechanical keyboard crowd canabalizes old 
> keyboards for keycaps and very rarely switches.  These days you can sell a 
> set of keycaps for more multiples of what a working, complete system will 
> fetch.
> 

Yes, I’ve been dealing with the morons who strip the keyboards off of (now 
rare) IBM 327x terminals, cut the connectors off and wire them up to PS/2 or 
USB.  May they burn in hell.

TTFN - Guy

RE: Sperry UTS 40 on Ebay - Statesboro, Georgia (part of Operator's Guide FFS)

[Electronics Plus via cctalk]

I have the keyboard for a UTS-40 here.
If you get a terminal that has been shipped, BEFORE you plug it in, take off
the back cover and examine the connectors.
These are not screwed together in the back; the circuit boards just press
together and will come apart at the back corner if the monitor flexes at
all.

Cindy


-Original Message-
From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Tapley,
Mark via cctalk
Sent: Sunday, August 06, 2017 4:17 PM
To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
Subject: Re: Sperry UTS 40 on Ebay - Statesboro, Georgia (part of Operator's
Guide FFS)

All,
in one of those spectacular coincidences, my excavations today
turned up a blue brad binder with 1 page of handwritten notes and
photocopies of pages 20-1 through 20-8 of the Sperry UTS 40-81 Operator's
guide (in addition to the other things I'm listing). 
Terms same as in my other emails, Al K. gets priority but anyone
else gets it for the cost of shipping. 
- Mark
210-522-6025 office
210-379-4635cell

I REALLY need a scrounger in Richmond, VA

[Electronics Plus via cctalk]

Dude just pulled 2 truckloads of early Apple and 386/486 computers and
keyboards out of storage and is scrapping them. I REALLY need somebody there
to sort the good from the trash. Can anybody help? He gave me one week to
come up with someone to scrounge, then it all goes for scrap.

 

Cindy Croxton

Electronics Plus

1613 Water Street

Kerrville, TX 78028

830-370-3239 cell

sa...@elecplus.com

AOL IM elcpls

 



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53 foot truckload of CRT tested working monitors for free in WV

[Electronics Plus via cctalk]

Anyone have an interest in a 53ft trailer load of CRT monitors 24 pallets
good condition, no broken plastic, no broken tubes or cut cables. Most are
17" with a few 15" and 19/21". These are free if there is an interest,
located in our Weirton WV warehouse. Please reply back if there is an
interest. 

dnunkov...@ierusa.com

 

 

Not affiliated with this supplier is any way; just thought I would pass it
on.

 

Cindy Croxton

Electronics Plus

1613 Water Street

Kerrville, TX 78028

830-370-3239 cell

sa...@elecplus.com

AOL IM elcpls

 



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RE: Did DEC make a Daisy Wheel printer?

[Electronics Plus via cctalk]

I had some DEC branded daisy wheel printers years ago, but they are long gone 
now. There was also an LA75 and and LA210, IIRC.

Cindy

-Original Message-
From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Jon Elson via 
cctalk
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2017 11:02 AM
To: Adrian Graham; gene...@ezwind.net; discuss...@ezwind.net:On-Topic and 
Off-Topic Posts
Subject: Re: Did DEC make a Daisy Wheel printer?


>> On 10/08/2017 10:19 AM, Zane Healy via cctalk wrote:
 Did DEC make any sort of impact printer, besides dot-matrix printers?  I 
 have an LA50 or two, and dot-matrix isn’t what I’m after.
>>>
DEC sold a number of printers of varying speeds.  I think they may all have 
been drum printers, but there may have been a band or train printer, too.  
these were all based on mechanisms made by other outfits, with DEC controller 
and branding.  But, not a lot of installations bought them, as DEC added a 
premium to the price. I've only seen the real DEC printers in advertising and 
handbook photos.

jon


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Sun part available, new old stock

[Electronics Plus via cctalk]

I have no idea if these are old enough to be useful. Not affiliated with
seller, etc.

 

WTS Sun MODULES, NEW, qty 300, CALL, New Surplus Sun Accessories and Modules
We have quantities of the following Sun part numbers. All stock is
new/surplus. 

 

SUN 594-3394-01

 

SUN XA

 

SUN SG-XPCIE1FC-QF4

 

SUN QLE2460-SUN-X0

 

SUN X6920A

 

SUN X7282A-Z

 

SUN X4422A-2

 

SUN X4447A-Z

 

SUN X4445A

 

SUN 375-3418-01

 

SUN X4213A

 

SUN X5043A-Z

 

SUN 375-3382-01

 

Contact us at sale...@assetlc.com for additional details. 

 

Thank you.

 

Asset Life Cycle, LLC

Phone: (785) 861-3100

Fax: (785) 861-3193

sale...@assetlc.com

 

 

Cindy Croxton

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IF you need these old vintage parts, PLEASE grab them before the keyboard keids do!

[Electronics Plus via cctalk]

https://www.elecshopper.com/vintage-computers.html I really would rather
these go to someone who needs them to complete a system than to the
destroyers of keyboards.

 

I am trying to get more of the vintage stuff listed. If you want to see
items as they are listed online, please turn on your RSS feeds.

https://www.elecshopper.com/rss/

 

 

Cindy Croxton

Electronics Plus

1613 Water Street

Kerrville, TX 78028

830-370-3239 cell

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RE: IF you need these old vintage parts, PLEASE grab them before the keyboard keids do!

[Electronics Plus via cctalk]

-Original Message-
From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Evan Koblentz 
via cctalk
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 3:03 PM
To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
Subject: Re: IF you need these old vintage parts, PLEASE grab them before the 
keyboard keids do!

> https://www.elecshopper.com/vintage-computers.html I really would rather
> these go to someone who needs them to complete a system than to the
> destroyers of keyboards.
>
> I am trying to get more of the vintage stuff listed. If you want to see
> items as they are listed online, please turn on your RSS feeds.
>
> https://www.elecshopper.com/rss/

How can you ask $75 for an untested Osborne keyboard?

How would you suggest I test it, since I don't have the computer? These almost 
NEVER show up at the recyclers anymore. Sorry if the price offends you. What do 
you think it is worth?


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Data General D214 terminals

[Electronics Plus via cctalk]

Found a couple in MA. The company is an old Data General dealership for over
20 years.

 

Bob Smolinsky

Sr. Purchasing Mgr / Sales

 <mailto:bsmolin...@congruity.com> bsmolin...@congruity.com

Ph: 781-826-9080 Mobile: 617-435-4884

56 Pembroke Woods Drive, Pembroke, MA. 02359

 

Tell him I sent you.

 

Cindy Croxton

Electronics Plus

1613 Water Street

Kerrville, TX 78028

830-370-3239 cell

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More old stuff incoming

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I talked to a recycler today, who said he told his workers to throw out 2000
Model F keyboards last week, but he doubts they did it.

I also asked him about 8088, 2086, and 386 computers. He said they go
straight to the grinder. I told him I will buy them.

Then an HP dealer contacted me, wants to know if I buy old HP stuff. I told
him Apollo and earlier. Let me know if there is something specific HP you
want.

 

Cindy Croxton

Electronics Plus

1613 Water Street

Kerrville, TX 78028

830-370-3239 cell

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Old HP stuff

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Thanks for all the replies! Based on the responses I got, this is the
specific request list that I just emailed him:

 

anything HP 1000 related is interesting. HP 2100, HP 21MX 2113 2117,
A-Series A400 A600 A700 A900 A990, etc.

 

are all 21MX/2100-series:

HP 12908A Writable Control Store Interface Kit (PCA 12908-60002) HP 12908B
Writable Control Store Interface Kit (PCA 12908-60006) HP 12908-60003 Jumper
Board Assembly HP 12908-60005 Backplane Jumper Assembly HP 12908-60008
Jumper Board Assembly

HP 12978A Writable Control Store (PCA 12978-60006) HP 12978-60006 Jumper
Cable Assembly

HP 02100-60018 Cable Assembly (need two!) HP 02100-60052 Connector Assembly

 

an HP HIL mouse (so not PS/2), preferably 3-button

 

HP apollo 735/125 power supply part # 0950-2081 (Astec). It comes from a
workstation, A2608A or  A2841A

 

HP 9000, whether it's the /200, /300, /400, /700, or /800 series

 

The prices I see for this equipment online are stiff! May I assume (and yes,
I know what that spells) that you guys are looking for machines in the sub
$200 class, not $2000 like some sites have posted? Equipment from the
recycler is so much cheaper, but strictly as-is.

 

Cindy Croxton

Electronics Plus

1613 Water Street

Kerrville, TX 78028

830-370-3239 cell

sa...@elecplus.com

 



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Retarded ebay prices

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https://www.ebay.fr/itm/HP-250-Hewlett-Packard-Workstation-mit-optionaler-Ha
rddisk-7910-SAMMLERQUALITAT/173303250279?hash=item2859adbd67:g:7r8AAOSw0dha7
dD8:rk:49:pf:0

 

Nice item, but crazy price! Located in Germany, only ships to the EU.

 

Cindy Croxton

Electronics Plus

1613 Water Street

Kerrville, TX 78028

830-370-3239 cell

sa...@elecplus.com

 



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RE: More old stuff incoming

[Electronics Plus via cctalk]

There was a Tandy with an 80186, but I don't recall the model number.

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From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Grant Taylor 
via cctalk
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2018 11:23 AM
To: cctalk@classiccmp.org
Subject: Re: More old stuff incoming

On 12/19/2018 09:05 AM, xcvb via cctalk wrote:
> Tho ive seldom posted but have always read this list i cannot resist -
> somewhere stored away in my piles of stuff I have an IBM Model 30 I
> believe that has an 8 bit isa bus and an 80186 cpu.

I am somewhat surprised to learn that any commercially available general
purpose computer had an 8186 CPU.  I've only seen it in purpose built
equipment.  The last one I saw was in a mobile X-Ray or CT machine in
the late '90s.

I would love some confirmation on the CPU.  (I'll look it up in a bit.)

That would mean that IBM PS/2s had every major class of x86 CPU between
the 8086 (or was it 8088, which is still in the 8x86 family) and the
Pentium.

IMHO that's impressive.



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Sperry, Focus, IBM, and Chicony keyboards added

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Sperry UTS 400 keyboard from 1984
<https://www.elecshopper.com/sperry-uts-400-keyboard-used-1984.html>
https://www.elecshopper.com/sperry-uts-400-keyboard-used-1984.html
Chicony KKB-5161 White Alps
<https://www.elecshopper.com/chicony-kb-5161-keyboard.html>
https://www.elecshopper.com/chicony-kb-5161-keyboard.html
Focus FK-2001 complete and tested
<https://www.elecshopper.com/focus-fk-2001-keyboard-tested.html>
https://www.elecshopper.com/focus-fk-2001-keyboard-tested.html
Focus FK-2001 for parts
<https://www.elecshopper.com/focus-fk-2001-keyboard-for-parts-or-repair.html
>
https://www.elecshopper.com/focus-fk-2001-keyboard-for-parts-or-repair.html
IBM 1394012 terminal keyboard, refurbished
<https://www.elecshopper.com/ibm-1394012-terminal-keyboard.html>
https://www.elecshopper.com/ibm-1394012-terminal-keyboard.html

 

Cindy Croxton

Electronics Plus

1613 Water Street

Kerrville, TX 78028

830-370-3239 cell

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RE: Want/Available list (was Re: Old HP stuff)

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Done! 
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Gqr3JHyV1bJGFZE7oaFkEVqRnl79ZvE54NVIy3YdikA/edit?usp=sharing
Fill it out as you think of stuff, and I will share it with the dealers.

Cindy

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From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Al Kossow via 
cctalk
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2018 11:03 AM
To: cctalk@classiccmp.org
Subject: Want/Available list (was Re: Old HP stuff)

Isn't there some place this could go on a web page?

there isn't much chance of someone trolling a mailing list after the first day 
or two of the post appearing

Sellam seems to have come up with something with his Google spreadsheet. I 
don't know if something like that
would be practical if a large number of people were adding/removing things


On 12/20/18 5:09 AM, Robert via cctalk wrote:
> If we're making a list, I need an HP 8120-4098 interconnect cable for
> 9836C to  monitor.
>
> I'm also looking for a keyboard for a 9816, but that's a much longer shot...
>
> Thanks
>



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RE: Want/Available list (was Re: Old HP stuff)

[Electronics Plus via cctalk]

I just realized I set the sharing to view only. Sorry about that! It is now set 
to edit. Add/change columns, whatever is needed.

Cindy

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From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Electronics 
Plus via cctalk
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2018 11:26 AM
To: 'Al Kossow'; 'General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts'
Subject: RE: Want/Available list (was Re: Old HP stuff)

Done! 
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Gqr3JHyV1bJGFZE7oaFkEVqRnl79ZvE54NVIy3YdikA/edit?usp=sharing
Fill it out as you think of stuff, and I will share it with the dealers.

Cindy

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From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Al Kossow via 
cctalk
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2018 11:03 AM
To: cctalk@classiccmp.org
Subject: Want/Available list (was Re: Old HP stuff)

Isn't there some place this could go on a web page?

there isn't much chance of someone trolling a mailing list after the first day 
or two of the post appearing

Sellam seems to have come up with something with his Google spreadsheet. I 
don't know if something like that
would be practical if a large number of people were adding/removing things


On 12/20/18 5:09 AM, Robert via cctalk wrote:
> If we're making a list, I need an HP 8120-4098 interconnect cable for
> 9836C to  monitor.
> 
> I'm also looking for a keyboard for a 9816, but that's a much longer shot...
> 
> Thanks
> 



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RE: Want/Available list (was Re: Old HP stuff)

[Electronics Plus via cctalk]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Gqr3JHyV1bJGFZE7oaFkEVqRnl79ZvE54NVIy3YdikA/edit?usp=sharing

New link with edits enabled.

-Original Message-
From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Electronics 
Plus via cctalk
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2018 11:26 AM
To: 'Al Kossow'; 'General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts'
Subject: RE: Want/Available list (was Re: Old HP stuff)

Done! 
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Gqr3JHyV1bJGFZE7oaFkEVqRnl79ZvE54NVIy3YdikA/edit?usp=sharing
Fill it out as you think of stuff, and I will share it with the dealers.

Cindy

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From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Al Kossow via 
cctalk
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2018 11:03 AM
To: cctalk@classiccmp.org
Subject: Want/Available list (was Re: Old HP stuff)

Isn't there some place this could go on a web page?

there isn't much chance of someone trolling a mailing list after the first day 
or two of the post appearing

Sellam seems to have come up with something with his Google spreadsheet. I 
don't know if something like that
would be practical if a large number of people were adding/removing things


On 12/20/18 5:09 AM, Robert via cctalk wrote:
> If we're making a list, I need an HP 8120-4098 interconnect cable for
> 9836C to  monitor.
> 
> I'm also looking for a keyboard for a 9816, but that's a much longer shot...
> 
> Thanks
> 



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RE: Want/Available list

[Electronics Plus via cctalk]

Interesting thought!
I don't send newsletters, or bother people in any way. I hate getting spam.
I encourage people to use the RSS feeds https://elecshopper.com/rss/
If you like, you can change the spreadsheet to say "Items Wanted" instead of 
"HP Items Wanted" and change the column headers accordingly.
Whatever you guys are looking for, I am willing to try and hunt.
I belong to 2 subscription broadcast services for dealers, and I regularly 
email almost 500 recyclers for stuff.
Just let me know.

Cindy

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From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Grant Taylor 
via cctalk
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2018 12:48 PM
To: cctalk@classiccmp.org
Subject: Re: Want/Available list (was Re: Old HP stuff)

On 12/20/2018 10:25 AM, Electronics Plus via cctalk wrote:
> Fill it out as you think of stuff, and I will share it with the dealers.

I may be odd, but I'd be interested in Cindy / Electronics Plus
leveraging their existing mailing list.

Assuming that it's Mailman (I don't remember) I'd be curious to see
categories that are brand names, and possibly sub-categories that are
model lines.

That way people could subscribe to the list and pick the categories they
are interested in receiving announcements to.

I think it would also give Cindy / Electronics Plus some indication of
what brand / model like people are interested in.

Just a thought.  ¯\_(ツ)_/¯



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Public buy/sell/trade

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For months I have been trying to implement a "multi-vendor marketplace". 
Without a budget, it is almost impossible. There is a free software, 
Sellacious, which runs off Joomla. Out of the box, it does not work. It has 
MAJOR security holes. However, it was the ONLY one I could find where more than 
one seller could sell the same product. Suppose 5 people have 1391401 
keyboards. In almost every other system, you would have 5 separate listings. I 
wanted something more like Amazon, where the item is listed ONCE, and then each 
seller can set his price and a description of the condition, etc.

I am most familiar with Magento, which is what I use. There is a multi-vendor 
add-on available, but the base package is $399, and then you go up from there 
with features, like each seller being able to input his own shipping 
methods/rates and payment methods.

Deskthority donated the space for such a market, and offered to host it, but no 
one has the time to update/maintain it. If it were Magento, I would do it, but 
I don't have $400+ to invest in the extra software (basic Magento CE is free).

If someone wants to donate the funds, or write a good working module for 
Magento multi-vendor, I will be happy to set it up an maintain it.

The advantages to Magento are many, but it has a few drawbacks too. You can do 
almost anything with it, but it can be a little slow. The community is very 
active.

There are numerous tiny sites for buying and selling that are not very active 
anymore, and most use a PHP BB type system, which will not let you list and buy 
like a true ecommerce does. It also does not tell you when something is out of 
stock, or allow you to add it to a wishlist.

Cindy

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From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Grant Taylor 
via cctalk
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2018 5:07 PM
To: cctalk@classiccmp.org
Subject: Re: Want/Available list

On 12/20/2018 03:46 PM, Guy Dunphy via cctalk wrote:
> I too want a web forum venue for hunting, acquiring and dispersing
> vintage computing gear, with a restoration/collector slant, ie not about 
> the money, ie I'm poor, ha ha.  A mailing list is NOT an appropriate
> context. It has no categories, is ephemeral, chews local storage, has
> no hot-linking, and demands more real-time attention than I can spare.

Is there really a dearth of satisfactory locations for people to swap /
trade / buy / sell computer equipment?

I've not seriously looked.  But I feel like this should have been solved
already.  Maybe it has an the typical places are running people off or
otherwise unappealing.

What would people want in such a swap-n-shop?

In some ways it's a basic inventory management system, with the ability
for people to add their own listings.

I feel like the community could likely benefit from an associated forum
to discuss things without bogging down the business transactions.

I would want it easy to search and find things, or possibly even
register as being interested in being notified when someone lists
something for sale in the future.



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Sun hdd available

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Maybe of interest, maybe too new?

 

WTS SUN ULTRA 25 / 45 SATA H, REF, qty 15, CALL, Sun Ultra 25 / 45 Sata HDD
WTS The following Sun Ulta 25 / 45 Sata HDD :

390-0303 - 80GB Sata HDD - Qty 15
390-0351 - 160GB Sata HDD - Qty 15

Let me know qty you interested, and we send you prices include shipping


Thanks

Ronen Gispan
ro...@tom-c.co.il

Not affiliated with seller, etc.

 

Cindy Croxton

Electronics Plus

1613 Water Street

Kerrville, TX 78028

830-370-3239 cell

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Who is in Houston?

[Electronics Plus via cctalk]

2 storage sheds were bought at auction. Includes mainframes, terminals, dot
matrix printers, monitors, PS/2 and PS/2 machines, etc.

 

Cindy Croxton

Electronics Plus

1613 Water Street

Kerrville, TX 78028

830-370-3239 cell

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IBM in TX

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https://drive.google.com/open?id=1xwq1JKaMPVXLXJwhocWf9qTogANG2iye

 

This is the pic I was sent. Original msg should have said PS/1 and PS/2.

 

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RE: IBM in TX

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You guys decide what looks interesting and what you want to pay for it. The 
Series/1 is already claimed, but there is another big beast, not in the pic. 
Somebody make a spreadsheet or something. I am willing to go to Houston, and I 
have a friend from Austin with a truck and trailer that will help out, but I 
have no room to store stuff. I can't post to this chat from anything but the 
office computer for some reason, so I won't be able to post pics of what is 
there when I go. How do I fix this?

Cindy

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From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Jonathan Katz 
via cctalk
Sent: Friday, January 11, 2019 12:03 PM
To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
Subject: Re: IBM in TX

I spy some Sun CRTs and that ATEX cabinet looks interesting.

On Fri, Jan 11, 2019 at 5:49 PM Electronics Plus via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:

> https://drive.google.com/open?id=1xwq1JKaMPVXLXJwhocWf9qTogANG2iye
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> This is the pic I was sent. Original msg should have said PS/1 and PS/2.
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> Cindy Croxton
>
> Electronics Plus
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Houston stash sorting this coming Saturday

[Electronics Plus via cctalk]

The 2 sheds will be sorted next Saturday morning, early, in Katy, TX. If you
want the address, pls email me.

If you are in the Austin, TX area, there might be room in a carpool.

Same for the Minneapolis and Michigan areas.

If you are coming, please wear sturdy boots, gloves, bring bottled water,
and dress in layers, as it might be either 35F or 75F that day. Bring your
own food. Bring cash, no checks or cc. Not sure about restroom facilities.

 

Cindy Croxton

Electronics Plus

1613 Water Street

Kerrville, TX 78028

830-370-3239 cell

sa...@elecplus.com

 



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Houston Jan 2019 Want List

[Electronics Plus via cctalk]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1SrVeiZ5uhzZSCf3bV3QCJBQ81Jc0PukDUp79
KnygEf0/edit?usp=sharing

 

Please enter your interests here. We will be able to access it while we are
sorting.

So far it looks like maybe a dozen people might come. Hooray!

 

Cindy Croxton

Electronics Plus

1613 Water Street

Kerrville, TX 78028

830-370-3239 cell

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Folder for pics of Houston haul Jan 2019

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https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1Kw9caNwgBhlP-FMfQo9jsuTMeE2n0vd8?usp
=sharing

 

I will be posting pics here while we sort. I can update this from my cell
phone in the field.

 

Cindy Croxton

Electronics Plus

1613 Water Street

Kerrville, TX 78028

830-370-3239 cell

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Telex terminal with keyboard

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https://www.recycledgoods.com/ibm-compatible-terminal-with-keyboard-model-2-
large-telex-277d-as-is/

 

Might be too expensive?

 

Cindy Croxton

Electronics Plus

1613 Water Street

Kerrville, TX 78028

830-370-3239 cell

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Data General Keyboard for D412 or D412+

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https://www.recycledgoods.com/data-general-6348-a-terminal-keyboard-for-d-41
2-d412-mechanical-keys/

 

 

Cindy Croxton

Electronics Plus

1613 Water Street

Kerrville, TX 78028

830-370-3239 cell

sa...@elecplus.com

 



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Buyer beware

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I almost NEVER do this, but please be VERY cautious if dealing with CU
Digital in Sadorus, IL. He does have a few model Ms and maybe some Fs, but I
STRONGLY suggest you pick them up in person and have a laptop and an adapter
to test them before buying.

 

Cindy Croxton

Electronics Plus

 



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RE: Houston stash sorting this coming Saturday

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I was only there long enough to get through the smaller shed. Items of
interest include a few PS/1 machines and some PS/2 machines. There is also a
PS/1 monitor.
Terminals included Harris, a huge Televideo, a 950 keyboard, VT410 and VT420
terminals, various IBM terminals.
There are a qty of nice condition dot matrix printers.
There is an HP plotter, desktop style, about 2-3 feet long, in good shape.
There are large fixed freq monitors with 3 or 5 BNC on the back.
There are many 8088 to PIII computers, most with RAM and hdd, in decent
shape.
There are many small "pizza box" style HP machines, including a 150, if no
one claimed it.
For some pics, please follow the thread on DT from those who attended. I was
not able to upload anything while I was there.
https://deskthority.net/viewtopic.php?f=62&t=20593

Cindy


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RE: Hewlett-Packard 3000, 9000, Itanium (HP-UX & MPE/iX) Servers, Storage Arrays, Replacement Parts, Maintenance, & Disaster back-ups

[Electronics Plus via cctalk]

I agree that the general introductory blast post was a bit over the top. But I 
don't think it's been posted here regularly, and vendors that obviously 
contribute here get a little leeway (Cindy). I figure some may not be familiar 
with Cypress/Dougherty systems so one intro email per six months or year 
doesn't bug me.  More often will draw some ire ;) If Dougherty Systems wants to 
participate in this mailing list, there needs to be some 'collector friendly' 
value, it's a two way street. I suggest that Jeff @ Cypress scan maybe a year 
of past postings by Cindy @ Electronics Plus, and emulate.


J

Wow! I feel honored! Jesse at Cypress is actually not a bad guy. Been around a 
long time, but you are right, they ARE high dollar.

I am SO sorry that I could not help more at the Houston haul. I have severe 
asthma, and it got out of control, so I had to leave. The guy has a TON 
(literally) of vintage stuff, but he is an ebay guy, and is not willing to part 
with stuff cheap. One guy drove 15 hours to get there, and did not take home 
what he wanted, because the guy would not budge on prices.

If you want the seller's cell phone to try and make decent offers for some of 
the stuff in pictures, send me an email. He charged me $400 for 1 Mac 512K, 4 
TI/99, and a few old TRS 80 CoCo type systems. I am not going back again, sorry.

Cindy


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