Re: VAXstation 100 ROM image

[Lars Brinkhoff via cctalk]

> Does anyone have a (set of) ROM image(s) for the VAXstation 100?
> It might be interesting to attempt an emulator.

I think the machine has some historical interest.  Barbara Liskov's CLU
group received a number of VS100 terminals for their VAX.  This prompted
Bob Scheifler to create X.  CLU even got X libraries before C.

X10 comes with software for the VS100 "version 3.10", but it goes into
RAM through the ROM firmware.  The other main concern, emulation-wise,
would be the blitter with its separate microcode.

Re: Micropolis 1525 stuck heads

[Jules Richardson via cctalk]

On 9/20/21 1:13 AM, Chris Zach via cctalk wrote:
Running it through the MFM tool got all but 200 or so sectors on the first 
pass, most errors were on head 3 but tapered off after cyl 500. Seems like 
a normal copy of Accent, no special information so it might not be worth 
taking the world apart to get it working.


What's this "MFM tool" of which you speak? Something specific to the PERQ 
world? I've got various ST506/412-type drives formatted against various 
controllers in various systems that might benefit from a snapshot.


cheers

Jules

Re: Micropolis 1525 stuck heads

[Jos Dreesen via cctalk]

On 22.09.21 13:46, Jules Richardson via cctalk wrote:

On 9/20/21 1:13 AM, Chris Zach via cctalk wrote:

Running it through the MFM tool got all but 200 or so sectors on the first 
pass, most errors were on head 3 but tapered off after cyl 500. Seems like a 
normal copy of Accent, no special information so it might not be worth taking 
the world apart to get it working.


What's this "MFM tool" of which you speak? Something specific to the PERQ 
world? I've got various ST506/412-type drives formatted against various controllers in 
various systems that might benefit from a snapshot.




David Gesswein's MFM-reader   :  https://www.pdp8online.com/mfm/mfm.shtml

Setting up a VMS system

[Philip Pemberton via cctalk]

Hopefully a few of the DEC/VMS fans here might be able to help!

I'm on a bit of a quest. I've been given some old VAX/VMS software -- a 
cross compiler and some source code -- that I'd like to get running. My 
goal is to get the source code building and experiment with the compiler 
a bit.


Problem is that I've never used VMS before, and don't have a clue how to 
install or use it.


Can any point me to an idiot's guide to VMS, how to set it up and make 
it possible to send files to it from my Linux box?


I'm thinking of using SIMH, unless there's a better emulator available.

I'm still waiting on a reply from HP with a hobbyist licence PAK (I've 
filled out the form), but I figure I can get started on the learning 
while I wait.



Cheers
Phil.

Re: Setting up a VMS system

[Liam Proven via cctalk]

On Wed, 22 Sept 2021 at 14:21, Philip Pemberton via cctalk
 wrote:

> I'm thinking of using SIMH, unless there's a better emulator available.

I like VMS but I can't claim much expertise, unfortunately.

I have sysadminned a few boxes, but never brought one up from scratch.

However I did experimentally bootstrap an instance in SIMH on Linux
and it worked fine. I didn't license it or do much but it worked.

> I'm still waiting on a reply from HP with a hobbyist licence PAK (I've
> filled out the form), but I figure I can get started on the learning
> while I wait.

HP no longer owns VMS, AFAIK. It is now owned by VSI, VMS Software Inc.

https://vmssoftware.com/

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Re: Setting up a VMS system

[Peter Hicks via cctalk]

Hi Phil

I'm not sure if it helps, but I documented installing OpenVMS on a
Raspberry Pi a while ago at
https://blog.poggs.com/2020/04/21/openvms-on-a-raspberry-pi/


Peter


On Wed, 22 Sept 2021 at 13:21, Philip Pemberton via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:

> Hopefully a few of the DEC/VMS fans here might be able to help!
>
> I'm on a bit of a quest. I've been given some old VAX/VMS software -- a
> cross compiler and some source code -- that I'd like to get running. My
> goal is to get the source code building and experiment with the compiler
> a bit.
>
> Problem is that I've never used VMS before, and don't have a clue how to
> install or use it.
>
> Can any point me to an idiot's guide to VMS, how to set it up and make
> it possible to send files to it from my Linux box?
>
> I'm thinking of using SIMH, unless there's a better emulator available.
>
> I'm still waiting on a reply from HP with a hobbyist licence PAK (I've
> filled out the form), but I figure I can get started on the learning
> while I wait.
>
>
> Cheers
> Phil.
>

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Re: Setting up a VMS system

[Antonio Carlini via cctalk]

On 22/09/2021 13:21, Philip Pemberton via cctalk wrote:

Hopefully a few of the DEC/VMS fans here might be able to help!

I'm on a bit of a quest. I've been given some old VAX/VMS software -- 
a cross compiler and some source code -- that I'd like to get running. 
My goal is to get the source code building and experiment with the 
compiler a bit.


Problem is that I've never used VMS before, and don't have a clue how 
to install or use it.


One of the other replies supplies a "how to install from scratch in 
SIMH" link, so that would be a good starting point.


Might be faster to install on a speedy machine though (I've never tried 
on any Pi but I doubt that any of them will match a Ryzen ...)



Can any point me to an idiot's guide to VMS, how to set it up and make 
it possible to send files to it from my Linux box?


The easiest way to transfer that I can think of would be to set up 
TCP/IP on OpenVMS and then just FTP (or NFS if you you set that up).


There is (or at least, was) a version of SAMBA for OpenVMS, so that's 
another way if you like Windows.




I'm thinking of using SIMH, unless there's a better emulator available.


SIMH works really well. Well enough that if you give OpenVMS (VAX) a 
sufficiently large disk (30GB should do), it will crash when trying to 
mount it :-)





I'm still waiting on a reply from HP with a hobbyist licence PAK (I've 
filled out the form), but I figure I can get started on the learning 
while I wait.


You'll be a wizard before you stop waiting. Hobbyist PAKs are no longer 
available. I forget whether the existing PAKs run out at the end of 2021 
or 2022.


VSI are not allowed to issue PAKs for VAX (I'm not sure whether they 
simply cannot do it or are not allowed to do it, but either way, they 
won't).



Antonio


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anto...@acarlini.com

Re: Setting up a VMS system

[Bill Degnan via cctalk]

Find a working vms system and back up the drives to your
externally-attached drive (s) to clone them.  Migrate the cloned drives to
your system.  This is a simplified statement of what's really involved but
if you can get to a similar system to your dec whatever you have, I'd
attempt the clone process.  That is if you have/want to use real  vax/alpha
hardware.
Bill

On Wed, Sep 22, 2021, 9:05 AM Antonio Carlini via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:

> On 22/09/2021 13:21, Philip Pemberton via cctalk wrote:
> > Hopefully a few of the DEC/VMS fans here might be able to help!
> >
> > I'm on a bit of a quest. I've been given some old VAX/VMS software --
> > a cross compiler and some source code -- that I'd like to get running.
> > My goal is to get the source code building and experiment with the
> > compiler a bit.
> >
> > Problem is that I've never used VMS before, and don't have a clue how
> > to install or use it.
>
> One of the other replies supplies a "how to install from scratch in
> SIMH" link, so that would be a good starting point.
>
> Might be faster to install on a speedy machine though (I've never tried
> on any Pi but I doubt that any of them will match a Ryzen ...)
>
>
> > Can any point me to an idiot's guide to VMS, how to set it up and make
> > it possible to send files to it from my Linux box?
> >
> The easiest way to transfer that I can think of would be to set up
> TCP/IP on OpenVMS and then just FTP (or NFS if you you set that up).
>
> There is (or at least, was) a version of SAMBA for OpenVMS, so that's
> another way if you like Windows.
>
>
> > I'm thinking of using SIMH, unless there's a better emulator available.
>
> SIMH works really well. Well enough that if you give OpenVMS (VAX) a
> sufficiently large disk (30GB should do), it will crash when trying to
> mount it :-)
>
>
> >
> > I'm still waiting on a reply from HP with a hobbyist licence PAK (I've
> > filled out the form), but I figure I can get started on the learning
> > while I wait.
> >
> You'll be a wizard before you stop waiting. Hobbyist PAKs are no longer
> available. I forget whether the existing PAKs run out at the end of 2021
> or 2022.
>
> VSI are not allowed to issue PAKs for VAX (I'm not sure whether they
> simply cannot do it or are not allowed to do it, but either way, they
> won't).
>
>
> Antonio
>
>
> --
> Antonio Carlini
> anto...@acarlini.com
>
>

RE: Setting up a VMS system

[Dave Wade G4UGM via cctalk]

> -Original Message-
> From: cctalk  On Behalf Of Philip
> Pemberton via cctalk
> Sent: 22 September 2021 13:22
> To: cctalk@classiccmp.org
> Subject: Setting up a VMS system
> 
> Hopefully a few of the DEC/VMS fans here might be able to help!
> 
> I'm on a bit of a quest. I've been given some old VAX/VMS software -- a cross
> compiler and some source code -- that I'd like to get running. My goal is to
> get the source code building and experiment with the compiler a bit.
> 

OK Well I wonder if it needs a licence. That may be an issue...

> Problem is that I've never used VMS before, and don't have a clue how to
> install or use it.
> 

You will find copies of OpenVMS and the documentation on vaxhaven.com. 
The commands are generally similar to Unix/DoS but it has many unique quirks.
It creates versions of files. So if you run the same copy command twice, you 
get two output files. 
Assuming non were there before these will have a ";1" and ";2" on the end.
I seem to remember the PURGE command cleans this up.
I would just google "openvms vax install simh" and see which one suits your 
style of working.
Lots of tutorials too.,
 
> Can any point me to an idiot's guide to VMS, how to set it up and make it
> possible to send files to it from my Linux box?
> 

Well if you are using SIMH you can probably use FTP. If the files are small 
enough you can also create an ISO and mount it on OPENVMS
This will be mounted as a "foreign" disk as VMS CDs are written using the VMS 
file format.

> I'm thinking of using SIMH, unless there's a better emulator available.
> 

I think its the best but there are many types of VAX,

https://9track.net/simh/

has many variants.

> I'm still waiting on a reply from HP with a hobbyist licence PAK (I've filled 
> out
> the form), but I figure I can get started on the learning while I wait.
> 

You won't get one from HP but there are work arounds.
HP has allowed us to share our files. Let me know of list if you need it.

> 
> Cheers
> Phil.

Dave

Re: Setting up a VMS system

[Zane Healy via cctalk]

On Sep 22, 2021, at 6:05 AM, Antonio Carlini via cctalk  
wrote:
> Might be faster to install on a speedy machine though (I've never tried on 
> any Pi but I doubt that any of them will match a Ryzen …)

I tend to use VM’s on my VMware cluster.  I’ve used an RPI 3b+, it was about 
1.6 VUPS, so better than my KA630 based systems.

> SIMH works really well. Well enough that if you give OpenVMS (VAX) a 
> sufficiently large disk (30GB should do), it will crash when trying to mount 
> it :-)

Interesting, I have 3 34GB drives in my cluster, and haven’t had any issue.

Zane

Re: Setting up a VMS system

[Bill Gunshannon via cctalk]

On 9/22/21 8:44 AM, Liam Proven via cctalk wrote:

On Wed, 22 Sept 2021 at 14:21, Philip Pemberton via cctalk
 wrote:


I'm thinking of using SIMH, unless there's a better emulator available.


I like VMS but I can't claim much expertise, unfortunately.

I have sysadminned a few boxes, but never brought one up from scratch.

However I did experimentally bootstrap an instance in SIMH on Linux
and it worked fine. I didn't license it or do much but it worked.


I'm still waiting on a reply from HP with a hobbyist licence PAK (I've
filled out the form), but I figure I can get started on the learning
while I wait.


HP no longer owns VMS, AFAIK. It is now owned by VSI, VMS Software Inc.


Not true.  HP still owns it. VSI is licensed to continue development, 
nothing more.  HPE no longer cares about VMS and the Hobbyist Program

has ended.  VSI has a Hobbyist type program but it does not cover VAX.



https://vmssoftware.com/



bill

Re: Setting up a VMS system

[Zane Healy via cctalk]

On Sep 22, 2021, at 5:21 AM, Philip Pemberton via cctalk 
 wrote:
> 
> Hopefully a few of the DEC/VMS fans here might be able to help!
> 
> I'm on a bit of a quest. I've been given some old VAX/VMS software -- a cross 
> compiler and some source code -- that I'd like to get running. My goal is to 
> get the source code building and experiment with the compiler a bit.

Out of curiosity, what’s the VAX/VMS software you’re trying to run, and what 
version of VAX/VMS was it intended to run on?  Does it have any version 
requirements with the OS?

> Problem is that I've never used VMS before, and don't have a clue how to 
> install or use it.
> 
> Can any point me to an idiot's guide to VMS, how to set it up and make it 
> possible to send files to it from my Linux box?

Are you simply looking for Web resources, or are you interested in books?  The 
v5.x System Managers Guide and Users Guide are probably two of my favorite 
books, even when running 8.x, I tend to reach for the v5.x System Managers 
Guide first.


> I'm thinking of using SIMH, unless there's a better emulator available.

SIMH is the best option.  Better emulators cost $$$’s.

> I'm still waiting on a reply from HP with a hobbyist licence PAK (I've filled 
> out the form), but I figure I can get started on the learning while I wait.

That’s the problem, HP already sent out the last set of Hobbyist PAK’s.

Zane

Re: Setting up a VMS system

[Zane Healy via cctalk]

On Sep 22, 2021, at 9:28 AM, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk  
wrote:
> 
> Not true.  HP still owns it. VSI is licensed to continue development, nothing 
> more.  HPE no longer cares about VMS and the Hobbyist Program
> has ended.  VSI has a Hobbyist type program but it does not cover VAX.
> 
>> https://vmssoftware.com/ 
> 
> bill

Currently the Hobbyist Program covers Alpha and Itanium.  We’ve been told it 
will cover x86 at some point.  I for one can’t wait for x86, as I don’t really 
want to add an Itanium to run some of the newer software.

Zane

Re: Setting up a VMS system

[Antonio Carlini via cctalk]

On 22/09/2021 17:05, Zane Healy wrote:


Interesting, I have 3 34GB drives in my cluster, and haven’t had any issue.



I think I was running OpenVMS VAX V7.2 on SIMH. IIRC it was fixed in 
V7.3 (someone sent me the DECUS Hobbyist V7.3 release and that was OK).



Antonio


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anto...@acarlini.com

Re: Setting up a VMS system

[Zane Healy via cctalk]

On Sep 22, 2021, at 11:21 AM, Antonio Carlini  wrote:
> On 22/09/2021 17:05, Zane Healy wrote:
>> 
>> Interesting, I have 3 34GB drives in my cluster, and haven’t had any issue.
> 
> 
> I think I was running OpenVMS VAX V7.2 on SIMH. IIRC it was fixed in V7.3 
> (someone sent me the DECUS Hobbyist V7.3 release and that was OK).

That would explain it, I’m running OpenVMS/VAX v7.3 along with OpenVMS/Alpha 
v8.3 and v8.4 in the cluster.  What really surprised me is that SIMH can serve 
up an ODS-5 disk on the Cluster for OpenVMS/Alpha.

Zane

scanning a ton of documentation

[devin davison via cctalk]

Hello,

The person that refered me to my present job  at a datacenter passed away
this past monday. He was a hardware / software engineer for modcomp
computers. He left me all of the computers and documents. there are too
many books to keep, stuff concerning the modcomp computers that is not
saved anywhere else that i can tell.

I have picked up storage containers for all the books, and i can scan it
all. after that, its all probally going in the recycle bin, as i dont know
where or how i would keep such a large pile of paper manuals on hand.

what is the prefered format to upload things to bitsavers in? is pdf
acceptable?

How can i create a pdf that is not too big on file size? Can the text be
recognized  and be made searchable within the scanned pdf?

any input would be appreciated, Thanks.

--Devin D.

Re: scanning a ton of documentation

[Bill Degnan via cctalk]

Where are you located?  We have a small amount of Modcomp docs here and
could take on a box more of the most useful paper docs for posterity-sake,
to round out what's already here.
Thanks
Bill Degnan
kennettclassic.com
Kennett Square, PA

On Wed, Sep 22, 2021 at 3:05 PM devin davison via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:

> Hello,
>
> The person that refered me to my present job  at a datacenter passed away
> this past monday. He was a hardware / software engineer for modcomp
> computers. He left me all of the computers and documents. there are too
> many books to keep, stuff concerning the modcomp computers that is not
> saved anywhere else that i can tell.
>
> I have picked up storage containers for all the books, and i can scan it
> all. after that, its all probally going in the recycle bin, as i dont know
> where or how i would keep such a large pile of paper manuals on hand.
>
> what is the prefered format to upload things to bitsavers in? is pdf
> acceptable?
>
> How can i create a pdf that is not too big on file size? Can the text be
> recognized  and be made searchable within the scanned pdf?
>
> any input would be appreciated, Thanks.
>
> --Devin D.
>

Re: scanning a ton of documentation

[Jay Jaeger via cctalk]

> On Sep 22, 2021, at 14:05, devin davison via cctalk  
> wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> The person that refered me to my present job  at a datacenter passed away
> this past monday. He was a hardware / software engineer for modcomp
> computers. He left me all of the computers and documents. there are too
> many books to keep, stuff concerning the modcomp computers that is not
> saved anywhere else that i can tell.
> 
> I have picked up storage containers for all the books, and i can scan it
> all. after that, its all probally going in the recycle bin, as i dont know
> where or how i would keep such a large pile of paper manuals on hand.
> 
> what is the prefered format to upload things to bitsavers in? is pdf
> acceptable?

If you go to bitsavers.org there is a short contributor’s guide.  For B/W, 
CCITT Group 4 tiffs at 400dpi is what I do, but then I also generate a PDF from 
them for my own use, and put both on my Google drive and notify Al Kossow of an 
available contribution.

> How can i create a pdf that is not too big on file size? Can the text be
> recognized  and be made searchable within the scanned pdf?

Bitsavers will post process and create a searchable PDF

> 
> any input would be appreciated, Thanks.
> 
> --Devin D.

Re: scanning a ton of documentation

[Lyle Bickley via cctalk]

AFAIK, I have an entire library of MODCOMP documentation - consisting of over
one thousand manuals as PDF's. I will check with the person who had the
original manuals scanned and check to see if it is O.K. to zip them up and give
them to AL to post on bitsavers. (I expect them to say "O.K.").

Cheers,
Lyle
--
On Wed, 22 Sep 2021 15:14:02 -0400
Bill Degnan via cctalk  wrote:

> Where are you located?  We have a small amount of Modcomp docs here and
> could take on a box more of the most useful paper docs for posterity-sake,
> to round out what's already here.
> Thanks
> Bill Degnan
> kennettclassic.com
> Kennett Square, PA
> 
> On Wed, Sep 22, 2021 at 3:05 PM devin davison via cctalk <
> cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:  
> 
> > Hello,
> >
> > The person that refered me to my present job  at a datacenter passed away
> > this past monday. He was a hardware / software engineer for modcomp
> > computers. He left me all of the computers and documents. there are too
> > many books to keep, stuff concerning the modcomp computers that is not
> > saved anywhere else that i can tell.
> >
> > I have picked up storage containers for all the books, and i can scan it
> > all. after that, its all probally going in the recycle bin, as i dont know
> > where or how i would keep such a large pile of paper manuals on hand.
> >
> > what is the prefered format to upload things to bitsavers in? is pdf
> > acceptable?
> >
> > How can i create a pdf that is not too big on file size? Can the text be
> > recognized  and be made searchable within the scanned pdf?
> >
> > any input would be appreciated, Thanks.
> >
> > --Devin D.
> >  



-- 
73   NM6Y
Bickley Consulting West
https://bickleywest.com

"Black holes are where God is dividing by zero"

Re: scanning a ton of documentation

[devin davison via cctalk]

Thank you all for the information. I would like to preserve the information
and get the books to good homes if possible. I will get a listing of what
is here. If the others that have modcomp books and docs can list what they
have scanned and availible, that can save on a duplication of effort
scanning something that is already online.

I am Located in melbourne FL.

thanks,

Devin D.

On Wed, Sep 22, 2021, 3:30 PM Lyle Bickley  wrote:

> AFAIK, I have an entire library of MODCOMP documentation - consisting of
> over
> one thousand manuals as PDF's. I will check with the person who had the
> original manuals scanned and check to see if it is O.K. to zip them up and
> give
> them to AL to post on bitsavers. (I expect them to say "O.K.").
>
> Cheers,
> Lyle
> --
> On Wed, 22 Sep 2021 15:14:02 -0400
> Bill Degnan via cctalk  wrote:
>
> > Where are you located?  We have a small amount of Modcomp docs here and
> > could take on a box more of the most useful paper docs for
> posterity-sake,
> > to round out what's already here.
> > Thanks
> > Bill Degnan
> > kennettclassic.com
> > Kennett Square, PA
> >
> > On Wed, Sep 22, 2021 at 3:05 PM devin davison via cctalk <
> > cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> >
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > The person that refered me to my present job  at a datacenter passed
> away
> > > this past monday. He was a hardware / software engineer for modcomp
> > > computers. He left me all of the computers and documents. there are too
> > > many books to keep, stuff concerning the modcomp computers that is not
> > > saved anywhere else that i can tell.
> > >
> > > I have picked up storage containers for all the books, and i can scan
> it
> > > all. after that, its all probally going in the recycle bin, as i dont
> know
> > > where or how i would keep such a large pile of paper manuals on hand.
> > >
> > > what is the prefered format to upload things to bitsavers in? is pdf
> > > acceptable?
> > >
> > > How can i create a pdf that is not too big on file size? Can the text
> be
> > > recognized  and be made searchable within the scanned pdf?
> > >
> > > any input would be appreciated, Thanks.
> > >
> > > --Devin D.
> > >
>
>
>
> --
> 73   NM6Y
> Bickley Consulting West
> https://bickleywest.com
>
> "Black holes are where God is dividing by zero"
>

Re: scanning a ton of documentation

[Christian Corti via cctalk]

On Wed, 22 Sep 2021, Jay Jaeger wrote:

B/W, CCITT Group 4 tiffs at 400dpi is what I do, but then I also


600 DPI should be the absolute mininum today. There is absolutely no 
reason to go below that for B/W.



and notify Al Kossow of an available contribution.


Hasn't worked for me in the past ...


Bitsavers will post process and create a searchable PDF


Since when?

Christian

Re: scanning a ton of documentation

[Al Kossow via cctalk]

On 9/22/21 1:51 PM, Christian Corti via cctalk wrote:


Hasn't worked for me in the past ...


guess I picked a bad day to stop sniffing glue

Re: Unix or BSD for Dec PDP 11/34 and 11/45

[Christian Corti via cctalk]

On Fri, 17 Sep 2021, devin davison wrote:

I'm working to get my pdp 11/34  and 11/45 running. I was curious what
versions of unix or bsd would work on the machines i have. I wanted to set


I'm running 2.9BSD on both our 11/34 and 11/45.


If possible too, id like to be able to telnet in to unix or bsd.I was also
curious if a ethernet interface exists for my unibus systems, or if i could
SLIP/PPP serial to another machine,so i could telnet in as well as use dumb
terminals.


There isn't enough memory and overlay space available for Ethernet 
stuff in 2.9BSD.


Christian

Re: scanning a ton of documentation

[Al Kossow via cctalk]

On 9/22/21 1:51 PM, Christian Corti via cctalk wrote:


Bitsavers will post process and create a searchable PDF


Since when?


I think I'll just step away from the terminal for a few hours.
I've been OCRing uploads for YEARS.

Re: scanning a ton of documentation

[geneb via cctalk]

On Wed, 22 Sep 2021, devin davison via cctalk wrote:


I have picked up storage containers for all the books, and i can scan it
all. after that, its all probally going in the recycle bin, as i dont know
where or how i would keep such a large pile of paper manuals on hand.

what is the prefered format to upload things to bitsavers in? is pdf
acceptable?

I would scan it all at 600dpi - that's what I do with everything I scan. 
I'd upload it to the IA as well, but that's just me. :)



How can i create a pdf that is not too big on file size? Can the text be
recognized  and be made searchable within the scanned pdf?


Disk space is cheap, go for scan quality.

g.

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Re: scanning a ton of documentation

[geneb via cctalk]

On Wed, 22 Sep 2021, Christian Corti via cctalk wrote:


On Wed, 22 Sep 2021, Jay Jaeger wrote:

B/W, CCITT Group 4 tiffs at 400dpi is what I do, but then I also


600 DPI should be the absolute mininum today. There is absolutely no reason 
to go below that for B/W.



Agreed.


Bitsavers will post process and create a searchable PDF


Since when?



No idea, but the IA will process the upload into html, plain text, mobi, 
and OCRd PDF.


If I'm scanning bound books, those end up as indiviual tiff images (one 
per page).  At the end of processing those, they get stuffed into a zip 
file with the suffix "cbz" (Comic Book Zip) and once uploaded, the derive 
task at the IA handles all the OCR work as well as creating those other 
formats.  I'm pretty sure it will do the same with uploaded PDF files.


g.

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Re: Setting up a VMS system

[Liam Proven via cctalk]

On Wed, 22 Sept 2021 at 18:28, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
 wrote:
>
> Not true.  HP still owns it. VSI is licensed to continue development,
> nothing more.  HPE no longer cares about VMS and the Hobbyist Program
> has ended.  VSI has a Hobbyist type program but it does not cover VAX.

I sit corrected.

The upshot is the same, though...


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Seeking DEC BC19S (VS2000 color video/keyboard/mouse) cable

[Chris Hanson via cctalk]

I now have a 4-plane color graphics card for my VAXstation 2000, and I'd like 
to actually connect it to a display.

Does anyone have a DEC BC19S cable that needs a good home? For reference, this 
has a DA15F connector on one end that plugs into the VAXstation, which leads to 
a box that screws into the back or base of a display and has the RJ11 and 
Mini-DIN-7 jacks for keyboard and mouse, and then has three short BNC cables 
coming out of of it for color video.

I have the parts to make a breakout box if I have to but that'd be more of a 
pain than giving someone money and having a thing arrive in the mail. :)

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Re: HP-UX on HP 9000/217

[Paul Berger via cctalk]

On 2021-09-13 9:21 p.m., Larkin Nickle via cctalk wrote:

Hey all,

According to 
http://bitsavers.trailing-edge.com/pdf/hp/9000_200/9000-200_periphSupp_Dec89.pdf 
(see PDF page 2), it seems as if HP-UX 5.1 should work on the 
9000/217. http://hparchive.com/Catalogs/HP-Catalog-1986.pdf also seems 
to confirm this (PDF page 71 under Series 200 Bundled Systems, it's 
mentioned that the Model 217 can run single-user HP-UX). However, 
there seems to be conflicted information based on people that I've 
talked to and the hpmuseum page with a copy of HP-UX 5.1 whether it 
should work at all, whether 5.1 is a unified release where the boot 
floppy should work on both series 200 and 300, or whether there's 
another boot floppy for series 200 which apparently has not been 
archived.


I recently obtained a Model 217 and would like to know if anyone 
has more info on this, the two people that I know of that have tried 
it get a hang on boot.


Thanks,
Larkin


It would seem likely that there is a separate boot diskette for 200 
series machines that so far no one has found a copy of.  The only thing 
I succeeded in booting the 5.1 that is available on hpmuseum.net is a 
310.  I tried booting it on a 9920 with a 68010 processor card and got 
the same result it posts the starting message and then hangs.


Paul.