Re: ISO Laserjet I/II/III firmware

2021-08-13 Thread Grant Taylor via cctalk

On 8/12/21 4:16 PM, Zoltan HERPAI via cctalk wrote:
Is there any interest in the firmware dumps for the JetDirect cards? 


I have no idea what sort of effort it would take to do so, much less how 
usable the dumps would be.


That being said, I can see some value in a virtual JetDirect. 
Especially if it could emulate an older more capable JetDirect 
(multi-protocol) that could be used by something to translate to more 
contemporary printing methods; e.g. IPP.  It might be an option for 
older virtual machines to be able to talk to and print to contemporary 
printers.




--
Grant. . . .
unix || die


Re: Early '80s Motorola Semiconductor Reference - anyone?

2021-08-13 Thread Bill Degnan via cctalk
I have Motorola's "linear circuits" and "interface circuits" from 1979, but
actual Semiconductor Data Books I only have are from 1969-1973.

On Sun, Aug 8, 2021 at 9:34 AM James B DiGriz via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:

> Not directly useful for part number interchange, but schematic and
> mechanicals for the 3T series switching regulators here:
> http://www.rknorman.co.uk/Boschert%20PSU%20Circuit%20diagram.pdf
>
> On Sun, 8 Aug 2021 04:26:30 -0700
> Al Kossow via cctalk  wrote:
>
> > On 8/7/21 9:48 PM, r.stricklin via cctalk wrote:
> >
> > > Annoying, but I still appreciate the tip. I think I can get where I
> > > need to go with the assorted Boschert manuals on Bitsavers, if I
> > > put the effort into tracing mine out.
> >
> > Tony forwarded me some schematics which i've added to
> > http://bitsavers.org/pdf/boschert
> >
> > the OL400 from the PERQ was a nice find since their 1980's higher
> > wattage supplies are very hard to find information on
> >
>
>


How do CRT's age?

2021-08-13 Thread Zane Healy via cctalk
Odd question, how well do CRT’s age?  Just the CRT, if what I think exists, is 
actually there, they’ve never been in Oscilloscopes.

Zane




Re: How do CRT's age?

2021-08-13 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
I'm a bit confused by the wording.  Is the question "how well do they age if 
not used"?

I would say they should last pretty much indefinitely so long as the vacuum 
seal is correctly made and not cracked, and of course there is no other 
evidence of mechanical damage.

paul

> On Aug 13, 2021, at 2:43 PM, Zane Healy via cctalk  
> wrote:
> 
> Odd question, how well do CRT’s age?  Just the CRT, if what I think exists, 
> is actually there, they’ve never been in Oscilloscopes.
> 
> Zane
> 
> 



Re: ISO Laserjet I/II/III firmware

2021-08-13 Thread Charles via cctalk



On 8/13/21 7:00 PM, cctalk-requ...@classiccmp.org wrote:

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From: Ethan Dicks
To: Al Kossow,  "General Discussion: On-Topic and
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On Thu, Aug 12, 2021 at 10:48 AM Al Kossow via cctalk
  wrote:

I suspect interest in emulating them will die out once they get past the 68000 
models.

I may still have a II, and I definitely still have at least one
(functional) III and a 4Si

I still use my 4M/L all the time - Postscript + LocalTalk + IEEE1284.
It's a great little printer.

-ethan


I have a IIp+ that I got for $2 at a hamfest around 15 years ago... I 
have repaired it several times (most recently, visibly bad electrolytics 
in the switching PS startup circuit). In fact that's the second time the 
power supply has failed - the first time was years ago and I just 
replaced the board. Now it's crinkling the bottom of pages... there used 
to be a kit to fix that.


I love those old "bricks". Although mine is like my grandfather's axe 
(new head and new handle but it's still my grandpa's axe) :)


The trick nowadays is finding toner cartridges that weren't just 
refilled, but actually rebuilt (with a new wiper blade).


-Charles



Re: How do CRT's age?

2021-08-13 Thread Zane Healy via cctalk
Really, that’s what I thought.  The ones I’m thinking of, should still be in 
the packaging, assuming my Dad didn’t drill them out to make lamps (at which 
point they’re an art object).  At some point, my Mom wants me to get into where 
they’re stored.
Zane



> On Aug 13, 2021, at 11:47 AM, Paul Koning  wrote:
> 
> I'm a bit confused by the wording.  Is the question "how well do they age if 
> not used"?
> 
> I would say they should last pretty much indefinitely so long as the vacuum 
> seal is correctly made and not cracked, and of course there is no other 
> evidence of mechanical damage.
> 
>   paul
> 
>> On Aug 13, 2021, at 2:43 PM, Zane Healy via cctalk  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Odd question, how well do CRT’s age?  Just the CRT, if what I think exists, 
>> is actually there, they’ve never been in Oscilloscopes.
>> 
>> Zane
>> 
>> 
> 



Re: How do CRT's age?

2021-08-13 Thread Al Kossow via cctalk



I vaguely remember this being discussed eons ago wrt correct storage 
orientation to keep cathode shed from hitting the phosphor.



30 yrs. ago

2021-08-13 Thread Murray McCullough via cctalk
30 years ago this month the IBM PC debuted at $1565. Some say this began
the era of mass-computing and it is now what classiccmp.org
 is all about! For those interested in the OS world
LINUX is 30 years old. Time has passed but this is what classic computing
is all about.


Happy computing.


Murray  🙂


Re: 30 yrs. ago

2021-08-13 Thread Al Kossow via cctalk

On 8/13/21 6:14 PM, Murray McCullough via cctalk wrote:

this began
the era of mass-computing and it is now what classiccmp.org
is all about


wrong

go play with the children on vogons or the VCF forum if you feel that way



Re: 30 yrs. ago

2021-08-13 Thread John Herron via cctalk
40* years ago?

On Fri, Aug 13, 2021, 8:14 PM Murray McCullough via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:

> 30 years ago this month the IBM PC debuted at $1565. Some say this began
> the era of mass-computing and it is now what classiccmp.org
>  is all about! For those interested in the OS world
> LINUX is 30 years old. Time has passed but this is what classic computing
> is all about.
>
>
> Happy computing.
>
>
> Murray  🙂
>


Re: 30 yrs. ago

2021-08-13 Thread Zane Healy via cctalk
Linux actually turns 30 in a couple months.  In January, I’ll have used it for 
30 years.

Zane



Sent from my iPod

> On Aug 13, 2021, at 6:14 PM, Murray McCullough via cctalk 
>  wrote:
> 
> 30 years ago this month the IBM PC debuted at $1565. Some say this began
> the era of mass-computing and it is now what classiccmp.org
>  is all about! For those interested in the OS world
> LINUX is 30 years old. Time has passed but this is what classic computing
> is all about.
> 
> 
> Happy computing.
> 
> 
> Murray  🙂



Re: 30 yrs. ago

2021-08-13 Thread Murray McCullough via cctalk
My apologies. 🙁  It was 40 years ago that the IBM PC became a retail
computer this month.

Murray 🙂


Re: 30 yrs. ago

2021-08-13 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk

On Fri, 13 Aug 2021, Murray McCullough via cctalk wrote:

30 years ago this month the IBM PC debuted at $1565. Some say this began
the era of mass-computing and it is now what classiccmp.org
 is all about! For those interested in the OS world
LINUX is 30 years old. Time has passed but this is what classic computing
is all about.
Happy computing.
Murray  


August 11, 1981, NOT 1991
It has been 40 years.
There were many of us who said that it was the END of the era.  And that 
in a few years, more that half of the personal computers would be PC, or 
imitations thereof.


It has never been what classiccmp.org  is all 
about!


--
Grumpy Ol' Fred ci...@xenosoft.com


Linearizing PDF scans

2021-08-13 Thread J. David Bryan via cctalk
Is it still useful to linearize PDFs?

I've been scanning and PDFing manuals for 16 years, and I've been 
linearizing them regularly.  My understanding is that this made them 
accessible on a page-by-page basis in Web browsers without requiring a 
complete file download first.  But given the increase in typical bandwidth 
in 16 years, I wonder if this is still useful.  It is an extra step, and it 
does make the files somewhat larger.

Recommendations?  Does linearizing confer any advantage locally once the 
entire file is downloaded?

Thanks.

  -- Dave



Re: Linearizing PDF scans

2021-08-13 Thread Alexandre Souza via cctalk
Hey Dave, I've been digitizing docs for free for years
Is any kind of standard, recomendation, group, mail list, to discuss the
subject?
All pdfs in www.tabalabs.com.br/esquemateca were scanned by me. I'm always
open to critics and suggestions
thanks
Alexandre, PU2SEX

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Em sex., 13 de ago. de 2021 às 17:20, J. David Bryan via cctech <
cct...@classiccmp.org> escreveu:

> Is it still useful to linearize PDFs?
>
> I've been scanning and PDFing manuals for 16 years, and I've been
> linearizing them regularly.  My understanding is that this made them
> accessible on a page-by-page basis in Web browsers without requiring a
> complete file download first.  But given the increase in typical bandwidth
> in 16 years, I wonder if this is still useful.  It is an extra step, and
> it
> does make the files somewhat larger.
>
> Recommendations?  Does linearizing confer any advantage locally once the
> entire file is downloaded?
>
> Thanks.
>
>   -- Dave
>
>


Re: Linearizing PDF scans

2021-08-13 Thread J. David Bryan via cctalk
On Friday, August 13, 2021 at 17:23, Alexandre Souza wrote:

> Is any kind of standard, recomendation, group, mail list, to discuss
> the subject? 

I am not aware of any.  I started with Al Kossow's basic recommendations, 
modified slightly:

  - scan at 600 dpi
  - use TIFF G4 where feasible
  - use tumble to convert to PDF

I then wrote and use a couple of simple image-processing utilities based on 
the Leptonica image library:

  http://www.leptonica.org/

...to clean up the scans (the library makes the programs pretty trivial).  
They start with the raw scans and:

  - mask the edges to remove hole punches, etc.
  - size to exactly 8.5" x 11" (or larger, for fold-out pages)
  - remove random noise dots (despeckle)
  - rotate to straighten (deskew)
  - descreen photos on pages into continuous-tone images
  - quantize and solidify screened color areas into solid areas
  - assign page numbers and bookmarks in the PDF

A good example PDF produced by these programs is:

  http://www.bitsavers.org/pdf/hp/64000/software/64500-90912_Mar-1986.pdf

The cover is a "solidified" black/gray/white image, manual pages 1-2 and 
1-4 are continuous-tone JPEG images overlaying bilevel text images, and the 
rest of the pages are masked, deskewed, bilevel text images.  The PDF 
bookmarks and logical page numbers are auto-generated from the original 
scan filenames.

The final step is linearizing the PDFs, but I'm wondering whether this is 
still useful.

  -- Dave



Re: Linearizing PDF scans

2021-08-13 Thread Tony Aiuto via cctalk
On Fri, Aug 13, 2021, 6:15 PM J. David Bryan via cctech <
cct...@classiccmp.org> wrote:

> On Friday, August 13, 2021 at 17:23, Alexandre Souza wrote:
>
> > Is any kind of standard, recomendation, group, mail list, to discuss
> > the subject?
>
> I am not aware of any.  I started with Al Kossow's basic recommendations,
> modified slightly:
>
>   - scan at 600 dpi
>   - use TIFF G4 where feasible
>   - use tumble to convert to PDF
>
> I then wrote and use a couple of simple image-processing utilities based
> on
> the Leptonica image library:
>
>   http://www.leptonica.org/
>
> ...to clean up the scans (the library makes the programs pretty trivial).
> They start with the raw scans and:
>
>   - mask the edges to remove hole punches, etc.
>   - size to exactly 8.5" x 11" (or larger, for fold-out pages)
>   - remove random noise dots (despeckle)
>   - rotate to straighten (deskew)
>   - descreen photos on pages into continuous-tone images
>   - quantize and solidify screened color areas into solid areas
>   - assign page numbers and bookmarks in the PDF
>
> A good example PDF produced by these programs is:
>
>   http://www.bitsavers.org/pdf/hp/64000/software/64500-90912_Mar-1986.pdf
>
> The cover is a "solidified" black/gray/white image, manual pages 1-2 and
> 1-4 are continuous-tone JPEG images overlaying bilevel text images, and
> the
> rest of the pages are masked, deskewed, bilevel text images.  The PDF
> bookmarks and logical page numbers are auto-generated from the original
> scan filenames.
>
> The final step is linearizing the PDFs, but I'm wondering whether this is
> still useful.
>
>   -- Dave


It is of negative value. Any single container for a document makes it
easier to handle than a bunch of pages discrete files that must be managed
as a unit. Bandwidth is cheaper than human labor. Don't optimize the wrong
thing.

>
>
>
>