Re: Anyone know ancient versions of XLC?

2021-04-14 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Tue, 13 Apr 2021 at 18:44, Kevin Bowling  wrote:
>
> Linux tends to churn that amount of code in a release.  I find it interesting 
> how large systemd has become as well:  
> https://www.theregister.com/2020/01/06/linux_2020_kernel_systemd_code/

I didn't know but I can well believe it. Virtually _any_ 30-40+ year
old code is, by modern standards, lightweight and fast.

Compared to, say, C++, Ada is a lightweight, clean language. Compared
to modern *nix, Multics itself is a sylph-like slip of a thing.

One of my personal favourites... there is a lot of word-processor
advocacy online now and the one most people praise as The Best Thing
EVAH is WordPerfect.

I used and supported WordPerfect in the late '80s & early '90s. I
never liked it that much. Fast, feature-rich, yes, but a UI one could
only love because of Stockholm Syndrome.

But I remember 5.x introducing pull-down CUA-type menus and being for
me significantly easier to use as a result. And I remember v 6,
lambasted as sluggish bloatware at the time, having a graphics-mode
GUI on DOS if you wanted.

So I found a copy and installed it on PC DOS 7.1 on a Core 2 Duo
Thinkpad. On a modern multi-gigahertz x86, it _flies_ along. It's
snappy and responsive even in graphics mode, and by modern standards
it's tiny. A dozen meg or so.

I don't use it much but it's fun to do so occasionally.

My main go-to WP on my primary laptop is MS Word 97 for Windows, under
WINE on 64-bit Ubuntu. Again, sluggish bloatware when new, but ¼
century later, lightweight and positively snappy. Does everything I
need and more, including the all-important Outline mode. Has proper
menus, not a Ribbon. Runs perfectly under WINE including being able to
install service releases to get it as current as possible. Same file
format as used up to 2003.

There are 2 features I know are missing compared to later versions.
Seriously, just 2. It has no highlighter (fake yellow marker pen you
can drag over text). Who cares? And you can't embed a table inside a
cell of another table.

That is the complete list of missing features that I know about for
the next 3 releases, then the Ribbon came in and I lost all interest.

On my Mac I use Word 2011, which is also now obsolete and out of
support. Works fine, though, and on macOS, you still have a menu bar
and can turn off the Ribbon completely.

> The rate of change to Linux literally keeps me up at night during incidents.. 
> but attempting to tame this for an enterprise also pays the bills.. I find it 
> peculiar so many people are ok with this model of computing but the jobs are 
> good for the time being.

Agreed. I'm in the same boat: documenting an enterprise Linux distro.

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XXDP on a really small system?

2021-04-14 Thread Robert Armstrong via cctalk
  I have an 11/03 (unmapped, of course) with 28kW memory and two DLV11s.
I'm trying to build an XXDP image on TU58 that I can boot on this system,
using an XXDP 2.5 RL02 image and simh.

 

  My simh configuration is -

 

CPU 11/03, NOEIS, NOFIS, BEVENT disabled, autoconfiguration enabled,
idle disabled

.

TTI address=1560-1563, vector=60, BR4

TTO address=1564-1567, vector=64, BR4

TDC controllers=1, address=17776500-17776507, vector=300*, BR4, 2 units 

.

RL  RLV12, address=17774400-17774411, vector=160, BR5, 4 units

 

  I can boot from the RL02 OK -

 

MEMORY MANAGEMENT UNIT NOT FOUND

 

BOOTING UP XXDP-SM SMALL MONITOR

 

XXDP-SM SMALL MONITOR - XXDP V2.4

REVISION: D0

BOOTED FROM DL0

28KW OF MEMORY

NON-UNIBUS SYSTEM

 

RESTART ADDRESS: 152010

TYPE "H" FOR HELP

 

But running UPDAT to create a new system image on the TU58 dies

 

.R UPDAT

UPDAT .BIC

 

HALT instruction, PC: 10 (12)

 

If I change the CPU to an 11/23 (but keep the same memory and other
configuration) then UPDAT works.   Is there some issue or limitation in
running XXDP on a 11/03?  Is it just UPDAT that doesn't work, or are there
bigger problems?

 

Thanks

Bob

 



Re: DEC H8575-A DB25 to MMJ

2021-04-14 Thread John H. Reinhardt via cctalk

On 4/1/2021 7:54 PM, Glen Slick via cctalk wrote:


If you want to make up a large number of MMJ cables using some
original DECconnect cable, here is a listing of a 1000ft spool of
original DEC H8240 cable. Some people have bought some of those spools
and reported that they are original DECconnect branded cable:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/162291819594


I can now verify that this is indeed DEC cable.  Boxed and labelled externally 
and internally:

DIGITAL EQUIPMENT CORP
H8240
QTY:1    DATE 5191

Between this and a generic 6-wire silver satin spool (which I also use for 
model railroading uses), I should be set for life.

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John H. Reinhardt




Wanted: DEC H960 cabinet, or similar rack of same size and vintage.

2021-04-14 Thread Thomas Moss via cctalk

Hi All,

I'm looking for a H960 to put my 8/e in, either to buy or to trade for 
something. (PDP-8/11/VAX/Alpha gear, KIM-1??)


I'm in South-West England and am happy to collect from mainland UK.
I may also be willing to have it shipped internationally.


Regards,
-Tom