Bitsavers down?

2020-08-30 Thread Tom Hunter via cctalk
What happened to www.bitsavers.org?
It has been down for at least the past 24 hours.
I can still ping the website, but http requests time out.
The bitsaver domain name here in Australia resolves to 208.77.18.144.

Thanks
Tom Hunter


Re: Bitsavers down?

2020-08-30 Thread Jason T via cctalk
On Sun, Aug 30, 2020, 02:16 Tom Hunter via cctalk 
wrote:

> What happened to www.bitsavers.org?
> It has been down for at least the past 24 hours.
> I can still ping the website, but http requests time out.
> The bitsaver domain name here in Australia resolves to 208.77.18.144
>

You may have been hit by an auto-ban. There's been a lot of unusual rsync
activity the last couple days and we're trying to block some troublesome IP
nets.

Email me directly with your IP info.

j

>


Re: Bitsavers down?

2020-08-30 Thread Tom Hunter via cctalk
Hmmm - I just tried a VPN into the US and the bitsavers website is up and
running. The IP address is the same, so it is not a DNS issue.
Al, is Bitsavers blocking some HTTP access from Australia?
Thanks
Tom Hunter


On Sun, Aug 30, 2020 at 3:15 PM Tom Hunter  wrote:

> What happened to www.bitsavers.org?
> It has been down for at least the past 24 hours.
> I can still ping the website, but http requests time out.
> The bitsaver domain name here in Australia resolves to 208.77.18.144.
>
> Thanks
> Tom Hunter
>
>
>


Re: michael Holley?

2020-08-30 Thread Mike Douglas via cctalk
Sorry, I did not see your post that there was no concern of losing Michael’s 
SWTPC content. I simply did not want to see more great material disappear from 
the internet as our peers age and become unable to maintain their web presence. 
I’ve seen that happen over and over now.

I’ll remove my mirror of Michael’s SWTPC content. You can contact Michael 
Evenson and let him know his assistance in preserving the content for the 
benefit of the hobby community is also “unauthorized.”

I presently pay for 150Gb of bandwidth on deramp.com to host material for 
vintage computing hobbyists. I’m surprised the swtpc.org bandwidth requirements 
are high enough to be an issue that requires your “grace” to allow us to view 
its content.

Mike


Re: Bitsavers down?

2020-08-30 Thread Steve Malikoff via cctalk
Tom reckoned
> Hmmm - I just tried a VPN into the US and the bitsavers website is up and
> running. The IP address is the same, so it is not a DNS issue.
> Al, is Bitsavers blocking some HTTP access from Australia?
> Thanks
> Tom Hunter
>
>
> On Sun, Aug 30, 2020 at 3:15 PM Tom Hunter  wrote:
>
>> What happened to www.bitsavers.org?
>> It has been down for at least the past 24 hours.
>> I can still ping the website, but http requests time out.
>> The bitsaver domain name here in Australia resolves to 208.77.18.144.
>>
>> Thanks
>> Tom Hunter


Same for me, I'm also in Oz and bitsavers.org isn't accessible at the moment.
I tried the IP address from nslookup (same as Tom) and got no result either.
Tracert reports through to nocarrier.net (same IP as bitsavers) though.

Steve.




Re: Bitsavers down?

2020-08-30 Thread Tom Hunter via cctalk
It is all good now. Last night I tried to look for some PDP-11 documents
and it didn't work. As it didn't work today I thought I better report the
problem.
Thank you Jason for unblocking us down under.   :-)
Best regards
Tom Hunter

On Sun, Aug 30, 2020 at 4:27 PM Steve Malikoff via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:

> Tom reckoned
> > Hmmm - I just tried a VPN into the US and the bitsavers website is up and
> > running. The IP address is the same, so it is not a DNS issue.
> > Al, is Bitsavers blocking some HTTP access from Australia?
> > Thanks
> > Tom Hunter
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Aug 30, 2020 at 3:15 PM Tom Hunter  wrote:
> >
> >> What happened to www.bitsavers.org?
> >> It has been down for at least the past 24 hours.
> >> I can still ping the website, but http requests time out.
> >> The bitsaver domain name here in Australia resolves to 208.77.18.144.
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >> Tom Hunter
>
>
> Same for me, I'm also in Oz and bitsavers.org isn't accessible at the
> moment.
> I tried the IP address from nslookup (same as Tom) and got no result
> either.
> Tracert reports through to nocarrier.net (same IP as bitsavers) though.
>
> Steve.
>
>
>


Re: michael Holley?

2020-08-30 Thread Tom Hunter via cctalk
I cannot see where the problem is.
Thank you Mike Douglas for taking the initiative and mirroring the website!
I appreciate it and everything else you are doing.
Mike Douglas and Mike Evenson please keep the mirrored content up and
running.
If J's "grace of bandwidth" is reduced by having an alternate source for
the material accumulated by Michael Holley so what harm is done to anyone?
J there is more bandwidth for your other stuff. Be happy.
Don't start fights among friends. Lets stick together. There is enough
nonsense happening in this world already.
The "swtpc.com" domain registration is still active but it doesn't point to
any IP address. The registration expires on 2021-10-31.
So J if that is your domain please update the domain registration so that
it points to the material.
Peace.
Thank you all!
Tom Hunter

On Sun, Aug 30, 2020 at 10:40 AM jwest--- via cctalk 
wrote:

> Mike wrote
> -Original Message-
> From: cctalk  On Behalf Of Mike Douglas
> via cctalk
> Sent: Friday, August 28, 2020 6:02 PM
> To: cctalk@classiccmp.org
> Subject: Re: michael Holley?
>
> I archived the entire website in the summer of 2019, shortly before it
> went offline in the Fall of 2019. When it became clear that SWTPC.COM was
> not coming back on line, I chose to host the content at
> https://deramp.com/swtpc.com/ so hobbyists could still have access to the
> excellent material Michael pulled together. Mike Evenson also hosts a copy
> of the website at http://www.swtpcemu.com/mholley/.
>
> Anything you can do to preserve and host the material at swtpc.* is much
> appreciated!
>
> Mike=
> ---
> I had written:
>
> -Original Message-
> From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of jwest---
> via cctalk
> Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2019 1:03 PM
> To: 'Peter Corlett'; 'General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts'
> Subject: RE: swtpc.com expired???
>
> That's one of my IP's. I'm quite doubtful that the content is gone, only
> that the domain registrant perhaps let it expire?
>
> It's safe, please don't rape my bandwidth 😝
>
> J
> --
>
> I did say the content was safe so it sure was not clear that it wasn't
> coming back, and if there was concern it wasn't coming back I could have
> been contacted as my site was the official owners site. Of course I'm glad
> it's been "archived and preserved" by others, but not great to see copies
> unauthorized by the owner and put up by the grace of my bandwidth.
>
> J
>
>
>


Re: Sun SPARCstation LX boot from CDROM?

2020-08-30 Thread Tom Hunter via cctalk
 I removed the PCB off the CDROM drive and on closer inspection noticed a
region of substantial corrosion of solder joints on the component side.
About 70% of the PCB had solder joints that were nice and shiny like brand
new. The remaining section near the front of the drive was quite badly
corroded and it also looked like there was some liquid spilled over that
section of the PCB (component side).
When I tried to re-solder a few of the worst affected components they just
fell off and the copper track below them was gone.
When heating the solder joint the solder wouldn't melt it was just pure led
& tin oxide.
Interestingly as I heated the solder joint there was a faint smell like rat
urine.
I now wonder if 25+ years ago during production of the CDROM at the Sony
factory some rodent relieved itself over one or more PCBs and next morning
the PCB got assembled into a CDROM drive.
It worked for a few years before I put it away in my display cabinet.
Slowly over the next 20 years the uric acid corroded solder and tracks.
This could not have happened after the assembly because of the small
opening in the unit where the caddy is inserted and also because the
component side is facing down.
Anyway this is the sad end of my Sun CDROM drive.   :-(

Tom Hunter

On Sun, Aug 30, 2020 at 1:23 PM Tom Hunter  wrote:

> I have now installed an old Adaptec AHA-2940 Ultra SCSI card with
> micro-SCSI interface in a Windows XP PC. Windows successfully installed the
> device driver and sees the Sony drive. If I attempt to read from the drive
> I get a generic I/O error.
> So it appears that the drives SCSI interface, positioning and eject
> circuitry is working but there is maybe a problem in the optical circuitry
> or the LASER optics.
> Thanks for all the feedback.
> Tom Hunter
>
> On Sat, Aug 29, 2020 at 9:58 AM r.stricklin via cctalk <
> cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
>
>>
>> On Aug 28, 2020, at 3:01 PM, Alan Perry via cctech wrote:
>>
>> > My collection is primarily sun4c and sun4m machines. I have been having
>> problems with the CD drives that I have been acquiring (purchase or rescue)
>> in the last year or so. 4-5 drives, none worked. It has all been drives in
>> 411 cases or going into them, no failures with internal drives. Haven’t
>> investigated why.
>>
>> 95% likelihood of faulty miniature electrolytics.
>>
>> ok
>> bear.
>>
>> --
>> until further notice
>>
>>


Re: Looking for an IDE simulator

2020-08-30 Thread Jules Richardson via cctalk

On 8/28/20 12:40 PM, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote:

Also, I discovered recently that there is a maximum number of hours
measured in years on SSDs and systems will start throwing SMART
errors when that is exceeded. I have a few doing that now on systems
with minimal writes but lots of hours.

There are long discussions elsewhere of the dangers of using non-industrial
rated CFs and SDs in storage applications.


I found it next to impossible to find information on what - if any - 
technology a particular SSD uses to extend lifespan; while manufacturers 
all compete on things like capacity and speed, very few of them seem 
interested in telling us how long their product might last.





Re: Looking for an IDE simulator

2020-08-30 Thread Warner Losh via cctalk
On Sun, Aug 30, 2020, 10:03 AM Jules Richardson via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:

> On 8/28/20 12:40 PM, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote:
> > Also, I discovered recently that there is a maximum number of hours
> > measured in years on SSDs and systems will start throwing SMART
> > errors when that is exceeded. I have a few doing that now on systems
> > with minimal writes but lots of hours.
> >
> > There are long discussions elsewhere of the dangers of using
> non-industrial
> > rated CFs and SDs in storage applications.
>
> I found it next to impossible to find information on what - if any -
> technology a particular SSD uses to extend lifespan; while manufacturers
> all compete on things like capacity and speed, very few of them seem
> interested in telling us how long their product might last.
>

Most SATA and NVMe SSDs have a PBW or DWPD number that gives you an
indication of how long it will last. These numbers are usually normalized
to a JEDEC workload. From that you can often extrapolate to your workload
if you know it well enough... It is one of the things I evaluate for
Netflix's CDN

SD and CF cards almost never do unless they claim industrial use. Ditto USB
sticks, but with more industrial models available.

Warner

>


Re: Looking for an IDE simulator

2020-08-30 Thread Peter Corlett via cctalk
On Sun, Aug 30, 2020 at 11:02:50AM -0500, Jules Richardson via cctalk wrote:
[...]
> I found it next to impossible to find information on what - if any -
> technology a particular SSD uses to extend lifespan; while manufacturers all
> compete on things like capacity and speed, very few of them seem interested
> in telling us how long their product might last.

The warranty duration is a good starting point. If it's the absolute legal
minimum (i.e. two years in the EU) then that tells you all you need to know.



Re: Looking for an IDE simulator

2020-08-30 Thread Bob Smith via cctalk
Technology wise, there is an inherent limitation on the number or
writes with the SSD design.
While it is not as simple to calculate as a mechanical system, it does
have a limitation.
I don't know the exact number with the current technology, earlier
products had write life times in the tens and hundred of millions of
writes.
bb

On Sun, Aug 30, 2020 at 1:38 PM Peter Corlett via cctalk
 wrote:
>
> On Sun, Aug 30, 2020 at 11:02:50AM -0500, Jules Richardson via cctalk wrote:
> [...]
> > I found it next to impossible to find information on what - if any -
> > technology a particular SSD uses to extend lifespan; while manufacturers all
> > compete on things like capacity and speed, very few of them seem interested
> > in telling us how long their product might last.
>
> The warranty duration is a good starting point. If it's the absolute legal
> minimum (i.e. two years in the EU) then that tells you all you need to know.
>