Re: Raspberry Pi write cycles
Zane Healy wrote: > I use RPi3’s for PDP-10 and DPS-8 emulation, I haven’t tried them for > VAX emulation. I would like to try a RPi4 for VAX emulation. I have an RPi4 running ITS. I attached a fast USB3 memory rather than running off the SD card. For the full ITS rebuild from scratch it takes two hours rather, compared to one hour on my Core i7 2.4 GHz laptop. An RPi2 with slow SD card takes around 24 hours!
Too many DEC binders
I have a full book case of DEC binders, each containing one or more manuals. I went through the lot of it this evening and checked to see what was on bitsavers. It seems an awful lot of it is not available. I cannot bring myself to dispose of any of it until it is digitised, but keeping hold of this much paper is not practical for me. I'm going to try to scan as much as I can. The full list of what I have is available at the link below. It is mostly mid 1980's VAX/VMS stuff.. If anyone would like one of the manuals for the cost of shipping, I'd gladly send it over to you. http://aaronsplace.co.uk/dec-manuals.html *** If there is anything you consider a priority in terms of being scanned, please let me know and I'll try to do it sooner, rather than later. *** Finally, I'd like to mention that these manuals came from a friend, Marc, who passed away early last year. Marc used to be somewhat active on this list (more so the #classiccmp IRC channel). A friend of Marc will be participating in a walk for the Campaign Against Living Miserably (CALM) charity. If anyone is willing to donate (even a small amount), it would mean a lot to me. CALM is a charity supporting men who suffer from depression - one of the leading killers of men under 45 in the UK. https://www.justgiving.com/fundraising/losthourswalk2019inmemoryofmarc Many thanks, Aaron
Re: Update: Shipping 50 lb computer from Zell am See, Austria to CA.
I had a Siemens Nixdorf MIPS system shipped from Germany using their post office. It took forever and was fairly banged up but made it to the US. On Fri, Aug 23, 2019 at 1:19 AM steven stengel via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > Well, I knew the computer, just not the city. > > It's Zell am See, a small town in western Autria, far from everywhere it > seems. > > The computer is a Datapoint 2200 - 50lbs, 10x19x20 inches. > > I want to get it shipped to Calfornia, where I live. > > The cheapest option is to just use local Austria mail, but max dimensions > are 60x60x100cm, or > 23.5x23.5x40 inches. That would leave just 2-inches on each of two sides > for padding. > > Best option - remove the plastic cover and mail it separately. Correct me > if I'm wrong, but the entire bottom of the computer seems to be a solid > piece of metal, like the Apple III = very strudy. The back is a giant metal > heat sink. > > I think it's do-able, do you? > > Steve. >
Re: Too many DEC binders
On 24/08/2019 08:18, Aaron Jackson via cctalk wrote: > I'm going to try to scan as much as I can. The full list of what I have > is available at the link below. It is mostly mid 1980's VAX/VMS > stuff.. If anyone would like one of the manuals for the cost of > shipping, I'd gladly send it over to you. > > http://aaronsplace.co.uk/dec-manuals.html > I seem to have PDFs for quite a lot of the manuals you have listed. I think I got these on a CD from a friend several years ago and I'd always assumed they were online somewhere. Maybe they were and have since disappeared. I'll get these uploaded once I've sorted out what's needed. >From your list these are the ones which I don't have a PDF for: AA-D113C-TE VAX-11 SORT / MERGE User's Guide AA-H501B-TC DECnet/E Network Programming in BASIC-PLUS and BASIC-PLUS-2 AA-H503B-TC DECnet/E Network Programming in COBOL AA-H504B-TC DECnet/E Guide to User Utilities AA-H505B-TC DECnet/E System Manager's Guide AA-J055D-TK Introduction to DECnet Phase IV AA-JF88A-TE VAX / VMS Release Notes, Version 4.5 AA-K714A-TC DECnet/E Network Installation Guide AA-KX21A-TE VAX / VMS Supplemental Information, Version 4.7 AA-KX22A-TE LAT / VMS Management Guide AA-L265A-TC DECnet/E Network Programming in MACRO-11 AA-L266A-TC DECnet/E Network Programming in FORTRAN AA-M269B-TC DECnet/E Release Notes AA-M539A-TE VAX / VMS Magnetic Tape User Guide AA-Y510B-TE Guide to VAX / VMS System Security AA-Z104C-TE VAX / VMS Master Index AA-Z501C-TE VAX / VMS System Services Reference Manual AA-Z501C-TE VAX / VMS Run-Time Library Routines Reference Manual AA-Z505C-TE Part II Run-Time Library Routines AA-Z601C-TE VAX / VMS I/O User's Reference Manual: Part II AD-L034A-26 VAX / VMS System Dispatch July 1985 AD-L034A-27 VAX / VMS System Dispatch September 1985 AD-L034A-28 VAX / VMS System Dispatch November 1985 AD-L034A-29 VAX / VMS System Dispatch January 1986 AD-L034A-30 VAX / VMS System Dispatch March 1986 AD-L034A-32 VAX / VMS System Dispatch July 1986 AD-LO34A-31 VAX / VMS System Dispatch May 1986 AI-T512B-TE Guide to Networking on VAX / VMS AI-Y516A-TE VAX / VMS Mini-Reference AI-Y517A-TE VAX / VMS User's Manual I'm not sure about these two though. I have a PDF for AI-Y502B-TE and AI-Y508B-TE with the same titles. Is the part number you listed correct? AI-T502B-TE Guide to Text Processing on VAX / VMS AI-T508B-TE Guide to VAX / VMS File Applications Matt
Re: Too many DEC binders
> On 24/08/2019 08:18, Aaron Jackson via cctalk wrote: >> I'm going to try to scan as much as I can. The full list of what I have >> is available at the link below. It is mostly mid 1980's VAX/VMS >> stuff.. If anyone would like one of the manuals for the cost of >> shipping, I'd gladly send it over to you. >> >> http://aaronsplace.co.uk/dec-manuals.html >> > I seem to have PDFs for quite a lot of the manuals you have listed. I > think I got these on a CD from a friend several years ago and I'd always > assumed they were online somewhere. Maybe they were and have since > disappeared. I'll get these uploaded once I've sorted out what's needed. > > From your list these are the ones which I don't have a PDF for: > > AA-D113C-TE VAX-11 SORT / MERGE User's Guide > AA-H501B-TC DECnet/E Network Programming in BASIC-PLUS and BASIC-PLUS-2 > AA-H503B-TC DECnet/E Network Programming in COBOL > AA-H504B-TC DECnet/E Guide to User Utilities > AA-H505B-TC DECnet/E System Manager's Guide > AA-J055D-TK Introduction to DECnet Phase IV > AA-JF88A-TE VAX / VMS Release Notes, Version 4.5 > AA-K714A-TC DECnet/E Network Installation Guide > AA-KX21A-TE VAX / VMS Supplemental Information, Version 4.7 > AA-KX22A-TE LAT / VMS Management Guide > AA-L265A-TC DECnet/E Network Programming in MACRO-11 > AA-L266A-TC DECnet/E Network Programming in FORTRAN > AA-M269B-TC DECnet/E Release Notes > AA-M539A-TE VAX / VMS Magnetic Tape User Guide > AA-Y510B-TE Guide to VAX / VMS System Security > AA-Z104C-TE VAX / VMS Master Index > AA-Z501C-TE VAX / VMS System Services Reference Manual > AA-Z501C-TE VAX / VMS Run-Time Library Routines Reference Manual > AA-Z505C-TE Part II Run-Time Library Routines > AA-Z601C-TE VAX / VMS I/O User's Reference Manual: Part II > AD-L034A-26 VAX / VMS System Dispatch July 1985 > AD-L034A-27 VAX / VMS System Dispatch September 1985 > AD-L034A-28 VAX / VMS System Dispatch November 1985 > AD-L034A-29 VAX / VMS System Dispatch January 1986 > AD-L034A-30 VAX / VMS System Dispatch March 1986 > AD-L034A-32 VAX / VMS System Dispatch July 1986 > AD-LO34A-31 VAX / VMS System Dispatch May 1986 > AI-T512B-TE Guide to Networking on VAX / VMS > AI-Y516A-TE VAX / VMS Mini-Reference > AI-Y517A-TE VAX / VMS User's Manual > > I'm not sure about these two though. I have a PDF for AI-Y502B-TE and > AI-Y508B-TE with the same titles. Is the part number you listed correct? > > AI-T502B-TE Guide to Text Processing on VAX / VMS > AI-T508B-TE Guide to VAX / VMS File Applications > > > Matt Hi Matt, This certainly reduces the size of the problem quite a bit. Can we try and get those online some how? I will check T502B-TE and T508B-TE tonight. Perhaps they are slightly different versions... Y and T are very close together though. Thanks, Aaron
Re: Too many DEC binders
On 8/24/19 12:18 AM, Aaron Jackson via cctalk wrote: > I have a full book case of DEC binders, each containing one or more > manuals. I went through the lot of it this evening and checked to see > what was on bitsavers. It seems an awful lot of it is not available. here is a list of the manuals I have scanned but not pdf'ed ./AA/aa-bt74b-th_pos_tool_kit_3.0_reference_manual_nov85.tar ./AA/aa-gh98b-te_guide_to_vax_notes.tar ./AA/aa-gr93a-te_using_the_VAX_information_architecture_jan86.tar ./AA/aa-hs82b-te_vax_psi_mgmt_guide.tar ./AA/aa-jf60d-te_vms_sw_inst_guide_scriptprinters.tar ./AA/aa-jf62c-te_vms_mgmt_users_guide_scriptprinters.tar ./AA/aa-jl07c-te_rdml_ref_man.tar ./AA/aa-k085d-te_data_def_lang_ref.tar ./AA/aa-kl03d-te_guide_to_dec_code_mgmt_system.tar ./AA/aa-kl46a-te_cdd_plus_ug.tar ./AA/aa-kn85b-te_dstr_name_svc_mgmt.tar ./AA/aa-kn86b-te_dstr_name_svc_inst.tar ./AA/aa-l069j-te_vax_psi_inst.tar ./AA/aa-l629e-te_cdd_utils.tar ./AA/aa-nd79a-te_rdb_sql_svcs_dec89.tar ./AA/aa-nf47a-te_pscript_transl_ref.tar ./AA/aa-ny74c-te_upgr_instl_nov91.tar ./AA/aa-p119d-te_dec_module_mgmt_may89.tar ./AA/aa-pajka-tk_lang_sens_editor_dec89.tar ./AA/aa-pajla-tk_lang_sens_editor_um_dec89.tar ./AA/aa-pbzta-te_UIS_Source_Code_Annotator_Users_Guide_Aug90.tar ./AA/aa-q1x7a-te_vmsclus_add_oct93.tar ./AA/aa-y298a-tk_enet_lnk_dec83.tar ./AA/aa-z330e-te_dec_test_mgr_dec89.tar ./EY-2278E-MM-0001_Listings_Book_Oct84.tar ./QS/qs-970-mg_ses_mgr_gde_nov89.tar ./QS/qs-970-mg_ses_mgr_jun90.tar ./QS/qs-970aa-gz_ses_doc_set.tar ./QS/qs-970aa-ig_ses_inst_jun90.tar ./QS/qs-970aa-ug_ses_ug_5.2.tar ./QS/qs-970aa-ug_ses_ug_jun90.tar ./VMS_1.5_Manuals.txt.tar ./VMS_2.0_Mar80/B00_Binder_Contents.tar ./VMS_2.0_Mar80/B01/AA-D015C-TE_VMS_2.0_Release_Notes_Mar80.tar ./VMS_2.0_Mar80/B01/AA-D016C-TE_VMS_2.0_Directory_and_Index_Mar80.tar ./VMS_2.0_Mar80/B01/AA-D022B-TE_Summary_and_Glossary.tar ./VMS_2.0_Mar80/B01/AA-D030B-TE_Primer.tar ./VMS_2.0_Mar80/B01/SPD.tar ./VMS_2.0_Mar80/B02A/AA-D023B-TE_Command_Language_Users_Guide_b.tar ./VMS_2.0_Mar80/B02A/AA-D023B-TE_Command_Language_Users_Guide_f.tar ./VMS_2.0_Mar80/B02A/AA-H782A-TE_Guide_to_Command_Procedures_b.tar ./VMS_2.0_Mar80/B02A/AA-H782A-TE_Guide_to_Command_Procedures_f.tar ./VMS_2.0_Mar80/B02B/AA-D017B-TE_System_Messages.tar ./VMS_2.0_Mar80/B03A/AA-3341C-TC_PDP-11_Sort_Ref_Man.tar ./VMS_2.0_Mar80/B03A/AA-D029B-TE_Text_Editing_SOS.tar ./VMS_2.0_Mar80/B03A/AA-D113A-TE_VAX-11_Sort_Users_Guide.tar ./VMS_2.0_Mar80/B03A/AA-H781A-TE_Utilities_Ref_Man.tar ./VMS_2.0_Mar80/B03A/AA-H94A-TE_EDT_Editor_Ref_Man.tar ./VMS_2.0_Mar80/B03B/AA-D019B-TE_Linker_Reference.tar ./VMS_2.0_Mar80/B03B/AA-D026B-TE_Symbolic_Debugger_Reference.tar ./VMS_2.0_Mar80/B03B/AA-D032C-TE_VAX-11_Macro_Language_Reference.tar ./VMS_2.0_Mar80/B03B/AA-D033C-TE_VAX-11_Macro_Users_Guide.tar ./VMS_2.0_Mar80/B04/AA-D018B-TE_System_Services_Reference.tar ./VMS_2.0_Mar80/B04/AA-D028B-TE_IO_Users_Guide.tar ./VMS_2.0_Mar80/B05/AA-D036B-TE_Run-Time_Library_Reference.tar ./VMS_2.0_Mar80/B05/AA-H500B-TE_Guide_to_Creating_Modular_Library_Procedures.tar ./VMS_2.0_Mar80/B06/AA-D024C-TE_Introduction_to_RMS.tar ./VMS_2.0_Mar80/B06/AA-D031C-TE_RMS_Reference_Manual.tar ./VMS_2.0_Mar80/B06/AA-D781C-TE_RMS_Users_Guide.tar ./VMS_2.0_Mar80/B07/AA-D538A-TC_RMS-11_Users_Guide.tar ./VMS_2.0_Mar80/B07/AA-H683A-TC_RMS-11_Macro-11_Reference.tar ./VMS_2.0_Mar80/B08/AA-D020B-TE_VAX-11_RSX-11M_Programmers_Reference.tar ./VMS_2.0_Mar80/B08/AA-D037B-TE_VAX-11_RSX-11M_Users_Guide.tar ./VMS_2.0_Mar80/B09/AA-H499B-TE_Guide_to_Writing_a_Device_Driver.tar ./VMS_2.0_Mar80/B09/AA-H784A-TE_Real-Time_Users_Guide.tar ./VMS_2.0_Mar80/B09/AA-H785A-TE_PATCH_Utility_Reference.tar ./VMS_2.0_Mar80/B09/AA-J526A-TE_System_Dump_Analyzer_Reference.tar ./VMS_2.0_Mar80/B10/AA-D021C-TE_Software_Installation_Guide.tar ./VMS_2.0_Mar80/B10/AA-D025B-TE_VAX-VMS-Operators_Guide.tar ./VMS_2.0_Mar80/B10/AA-D027B-TE_System_Managers_Guide.tar ./VMS_2.0_Mar80/B10/AA-D643B-TE_UETP_Users_Guide.tar ./VMS_3.0_May82/aa-h499c-te_vax_vms_3.0_Guide_to_Writing_a_Device_Driver_May82.tar ./VMS_3.0_May82/aa-h782b-te_vax_vms_3.0_guide_to_using_command_procedures_may82.tar ./VMS_3.0_May82/aa-m547a-te_vax_vms_3.0_system_management_and_operations_guide_may82.tar ./VMS_4.0_Sep84/aa-y514a-te_guide_to_vax_vms_4.0_software_installation_sep84.tar ./VMS_4.0_Sep84/aa-z102a-te_VAX_VMS_4.0_Glossary_Sep84.tar ./VMS_4.0_Sep84/aa-z104a-te_vax_vms_4.0_master_index_sep84.tar ./VMS_4.4_Apr86/AA-Z600C-TE_VAX_VMS_4.4_IO_Users_Reference_Manual_Part1_Apr86.tar ./VMS_4.4_Apr86/AI-Y151B-TE_Guide_to_VAX_VMS_Performance_Management_V4.4_Apr86.tar ./VMS_4.4_Apr86/EY-8264E-DP_VMS_Internals_and_Data_Structures_4.4_.tar ./VMS_4.4_Apr86/aa-z101c-te_Introduction_to_the_VAX_VMS_4.4_Document_Set_Apr86.tar ./VMS_4.4_Apr86/aa-z104c-te_vax_vms_4.4_master_index_apr86.tar ./VMS_4.4_Apr86/aa-z429c-te_vax_vms_system_Dump_analyzer_4.4_Apr86.tar ./VMS_4.4_Apr86/aa-z430b-te_VMS_4.4_Show_Cluster_Utility_Apr86.tar ./VMS_4.4_Apr86/ai-y506b-te_VMS_4.4_Disk_a
Re: Too many DEC binders
On 2019-08-24 1:03 p.m., Al Kossow via cctalk wrote: > > > On 8/24/19 12:18 AM, Aaron Jackson via cctalk wrote: >> I have a full book case of DEC binders, each containing one or more >> manuals. I went through the lot of it this evening and checked to see >> what was on bitsavers. It seems an awful lot of it is not available. > > here is a list of the manuals I have scanned but not pdf'ed ... snip > ./_DTR/aa-aj56i-te_vaxDtrInst4.2_jul88.tar > ./_DTR/aa-aj56j-te_vaxDtr5.0inst_dec89.tar > ./_DTR/aa-k080d-te_vax_datatrieve_users_guide_dec85.tar Hi Al, Thank goodness you have the datatrieve user's guide complete. Turns out my binder is incomplete, half missing, so I'll abandon that one. As I wrote earlier this month, my others in the scanning queue, apparently complete, are: * Reference Manual, AA-K079E-TE * Guide to Writing Reports, AA-P862C-TE * Handbook, AA-W675B-TE By the way, what's your position on scanning two-colour printed manuals like the DTR ones? Not worth keeping the colour for Bitsavers? --Toby
Re: Too many DEC binders
> On 8/24/19 12:18 AM, Aaron Jackson via cctalk wrote: >> I have a full book case of DEC binders, each containing one or more >> manuals. I went through the lot of it this evening and checked to see >> what was on bitsavers. It seems an awful lot of it is not available. > > here is a list of the manuals I have scanned but not pdf'ed Thanks Al, that's 8 which I don't need to worry about then. By the way, the first item on my list is on bitsavers but the filename is incorrect. The order number is AA-Y513A-TE but the filename is vax/vms/4.0/AA-Y512A-TE_VMS_4.0_Guide_To_VAXclusters_Sep84.pdf Aaron.
Re: Too many DEC binders
Many thanks to Matt Burke and Al Kassow, I have reduced my list of "need to scan" to 24 manuals. If anyone has any of these, please let me know so I can avoid scanning them. AA-Y510B-TEGuide to VAX / VMS System Security AI-Y517A-TEVAX / VMS User's Manual AA-Z501C-TEVAX / VMS System Services Reference Manual AA-H501B-TCDECnet/E Network Programming in BASIC-PLUS and BASIC-PLUS-2 AA-H503B-TCDECnet/E Network Programming in COBOL AA-Z501C-TEVAX / VMS Run-Time Library Routines Reference Manual AA-JF88A-TEVAX / VMS Release Notes, Version 4.5 AA-M269B-TCDECnet/E Release Notes AA-K714A-TCDECnet/E Network Installation Guide AA-L266A-TCDECnet/E Network Programming in FORTRAN AA-L265A-TCDECnet/E Network Programming in MACRO-11 AA-Z601C-TEVAX / VMS I/O User's Reference Manual: Part II AA-M539A-TEVAX / VMS Magnetic Tape User Guide AA-D113C-TEVAX-11 SORT / MERGE User's Guide AA-Z505C-TEPart II Run-Time Library Routines AA-KX22A-TELAT / VMS Management Guide AA-KX21A-TEVAX / VMS Supplemental Information, Version 4.7 AD-L034A-28VAX / VMS System Dispatch November 1985 AD-LO34A-31VAX / VMS System Dispatch May 1986 AD-L034A-27VAX / VMS System Dispatch September 1985 AD-L034A-29VAX / VMS System Dispatch January 1986 AD-L034A-30VAX / VMS System Dispatch March 1986 AD-L034A-26VAX / VMS System Dispatch July 1985 AD-L034A-32VAX / VMS System Dispatch July 1986 http://aaronsplace.co.uk/dec-manuals.html This page has been updated to reflect what has already digitised. Thanks, Aaron Aaron Jackson via cctalk writes: > I have a full book case of DEC binders, each containing one or more > manuals. I went through the lot of it this evening and checked to see > what was on bitsavers. It seems an awful lot of it is not available. I > cannot bring myself to dispose of any of it until it is digitised, but > keeping hold of this much paper is not practical for me. > > I'm going to try to scan as much as I can. The full list of what I have > is available at the link below. It is mostly mid 1980's VAX/VMS > stuff.. If anyone would like one of the manuals for the cost of > shipping, I'd gladly send it over to you. > > http://aaronsplace.co.uk/dec-manuals.html > > *** If there is anything you consider a priority in terms of being > scanned, please let me know and I'll try to do it sooner, rather than > later. *** > > Finally, I'd like to mention that these manuals came from a friend, > Marc, who passed away early last year. Marc used to be somewhat active > on this list (more so the #classiccmp IRC channel). A friend of Marc > will be participating in a walk for the Campaign Against Living > Miserably (CALM) charity. If anyone is willing to donate (even a small > amount), it would mean a lot to me. CALM is a charity supporting men who > suffer from depression - one of the leading killers of men under 45 in > the UK. > > https://www.justgiving.com/fundraising/losthourswalk2019inmemoryofmarc > > Many thanks, > Aaron
Re: Shipping from Europe to USA
With all of the stories. I don't know if it exists internationally but I think the moral is get insurance with shipper. On Thu, Aug 22, 2019, 12:31 PM Steven Stengel via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > How do I ship a 50 pound computer from Europe to the United States? Who > has good rates? > Thanks- > Steve > > >
Re: Shipping from Europe to USA
On 8/24/2019 1:25 PM, John Herron via cctalk wrote: With all of the stories. I don't know if it exists internationally but I think the moral is get insurance with shipper. I thought it was DRIVE your own FORKLIFT. So how did the orginal companies like DEC ship thier products? Ben.
Re: Too many DEC binders
I'll have to double check, but from the looks of this list I don't need the VAX/VMS Grey Wall that I acquired a couple months ago. It's a nearly pristine set of the V5.0 VAX/VMS documentation set. Some volumes are still sealed in plastic. On 8/24/2019 12:03 PM, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote: here is a list of the manuals I have scanned but not pdf'ed ./VMS_5.0_Apr88/M1A/AA-LA23A-TE_VMS_System_Management_Master_Index_Apr88.tar ./VMS_5.0_Apr88/M1A/m1a_aa-la24a-te_Introduction_to_VMS_System_Management_apr88.tar ./VMS_5.0_Apr88/M1A/m1a_aa-la25a-te_Guide_to_Setting_Up_a_VMS_System_apr88.tar ./VMS_5.0_Apr88/M1A/m1a_aa-la26a-te_VMS_SYSMAN_Utility_Manual_apr88.tar ./VMS_5.0_Apr88/M1B/m1b_aa-la27a-te_VMS_VAXcluster_Manual_apr88.tar ./VMS_5.0_Apr88/M1B/m1b_aa-la28a-te_VMS_Exchange_Utility_Manual_apr88.tar ./VMS_5.0_Apr88/M1B/m1b_aa-la29a-te_VMS_Install_Utility_Manual.tar ./VMS_5.0_Apr88/M1B/m1b_aa-la30a-te_VMS_System_Generation_Utility_Manual.tar ./VMS_5.0_Apr88/M1B/m1b_aa-la31a-te_VMS_Terminal_Fallback_Utility_Manual.tar ./VMS_5.0_Apr88/M1B/m1b_aa-la32a-te_VMS_LAT_Control_Program_LATCP_Manual.tar ./VMS_5.0_Apr88/M2/m2_aa-la34a-te_Guide_to_Maintaining_a_VMS_System.tar ./VMS_5.0_Apr88/M2/m2_aa-la35a-te_VMS_Backup_Utility_Manual.tar ./VMS_5.0_Apr88/M2/m2_aa-la36a-te_VMS_Bad_Block_Locator_Utility_Manual.tar ./VMS_5.0_Apr88/M2/m2_aa-la37a-te_VMS_Error_Log_Utility_Manual.tar ./VMS_5.0_Apr88/M2/m2_aa-la38a-te_VMS_Mount_Utility_Manual.tar ./VMS_5.0_Apr88/M2/m2_aa-la39a-te_VMS_Analyze_Disk_Structure_Utility_Manual.tar ./VMS_5.0_Apr88/M3/m3_aa-la40b-te_Guide_to_VMS_System_Security.tar ./VMS_5.0_Apr88/M3/m3_aa-la41a-te_VMS_Access_Control_List_Editor_Manual.tar ./VMS_5.0_Apr88/M3/m3_aa-la42a-te_VMS_Authorize_Utility_Manual.tar ./VMS_5.0_Apr88/M3/m3_aa-ng63a-te_VMS_Audit_Analysis_Utility_Manual_jun89.tar ./VMS_5.0_Apr88/M4/aa-la43a-te_Guide_to_VMS_Performance_Management.tar ./VMS_5.0_Apr88/M4/aa-la43a-te_guide_to_VMS_performance_Mangement_apr88.tar ./VMS_5.0_Apr88/M4/aa-la44a-te_VMS_Accounting_Utility_Manual.tar ./VMS_5.0_Apr88/M4/aa-la45a-te_VMS_Monitor_Utility_Manual/aa-la45a-te_b.tar ./VMS_5.0_Apr88/M4/aa-la45a-te_VMS_Monitor_Utility_Manual/aa-la45a-te_f.tar ./VMS_5.0_Apr88/M4/aa-la45a-te_Vms_monitor_utility_manual_apr88.tar ./VMS_5.0_Apr88/M4/aa-la46a-te_VMS_Show_Cluster_Utility_Manual.tar ./VMS_5.0_Apr88/M5A/m5a_aa-la47a-te_Guide_to_DECnet-VAX_Networking_apr88.tar ./VMS_5.0_Apr88/M5A/m5a_aa-la48a-te_VMS_Networking_Manual_apr88.tar ./VMS_5.0_Apr88/M5B/m5b_aa-la49a-te_VMS_DECnet_Test_Sender_DECnet_Test_Receiver_Utility_Manual_apr88.tar ./VMS_5.0_Apr88/M5B/m5b_aa-la50a-te_VMS_Network_Control_Program_Manual_apr88.tar ./VMS_5.0_Apr88/P1/AA-LA56A-TE_VMS_Programming_Master_Index_Apr88.tar ./VMS_5.0_Apr88/P1/aa-la57a-te_Guide_to_VMS_Programming_Resources.tar ./VMS_5.0_Apr88/P1/p1_aa-la57a-te_apr88.tar ./VMS_5.0_Apr88/P1/p1_aa-la58a-te_Guide_to_Creating_VMS_Modular_Procedures_apr88.tar ./VMS_5.0_Apr88/P2A/aa-la59a-te_VMS_Debugger_Manual.tar ./VMS_5.0_Apr88/P2B/aa-la60a-te_VMS_Command_Definition_Utility_Manual.tar ./VMS_5.0_Apr88/P2B/aa-la61a-te_VMS_Librarian_Utility_Manual.tar ./VMS_5.0_Apr88/P2B/aa-la62a-te_VMS_Linker_Utility_Manual.tar ./VMS_5.0_Apr88/P2B/aa-la63a-te_VMS_Message_Utility_Manual.tar ./VMS_5.0_Apr88/P2B/aa-la64a-te_VMS_Patch_Utility_Manual.tar ./VMS_5.0_Apr88/P2B/aa-la65a-te_VMS_SUMSLP_Utility_Manual.tar ./VMS_5.0_Apr88/P3/aa-la66a-te_Introduction_to_VMS_System_Routines.tar ./VMS_5.0_Apr88/P3/aa-la67a-te_VMS_Utility_Routines_Manual.tar ./VMS_5.0_Apr88/P4A/aa-la68a-te_Introduction_to_VMS_System_Services.tar ./VMS_5.0_Apr88/P4B/aa-la69a-te_VMS_System_Services_Reference_Manual_apr88.tar ./VMS_5.0_Apr88/P5A/aa-la70a-te_Introduction_to_the_VMS_Run-Time_Library_apr88.tar ./VMS_5.0_Apr88/P5A/aa-la71a-te_vms_rtl_Dectalk_manual_apr88.tar ./VMS_5.0_Apr88/P5A/aa-la72a-te.tar ./VMS_5.0_Apr88/P5A/aa-la72a-te_vms_rtl_mathematics_manual_5.4_jun90.tar ./VMS_5.0_Apr88/P5A/aa-la73a-te_vms_rtl_general_purpose_manual_apr88.tar ./VMS_5.0_Apr88/P5A/aa-la74a-te.tar ./VMS_5.0_Apr88/P5A/aa-la74a-te_vms_rtl_parallel_processing_manual_5.4_Jun90.tar ./VMS_5.0_Apr88/P5B/p5b_aa-la76a-te_VMS_RTL_Library_LIB$_Manual_apr88.tar ./VMS_5.0_Apr88/P5C/aa-la75a-te_vms_rtl_string_manipulation_manual_Apr88.tar ./VMS_5.0_Apr88/P5C/aa-la77a-te_vms_rtl_Screen_management_manual_Apr88.tar ./VMS_5.0_Apr88/P6A/aa-la78a-te_guide_to_vms_file_applications_Apr88.tar ./VMS_5.0_Apr88/P6A/aa-la79a-te_VMS_Analyze_RMS_File_Utility_Manual.tar ./VMS_5.0_Apr88/P6A/aa-la81a-te_VMS_File_Definition_Language_Facility_Manual.tar ./VMS_5.0_Apr88/P6A/aa-la82a-te_VMS_National_Character_Set_Utility_Manual.tar ./VMS_5.0_Apr88/P6B/aa-la83a-te.tar ./VMS_5.0_Apr88/P6B/aa-la83a-te_vms_record_management_services_reference_manual_apr88.tar ./VMS_5.0_Apr88/P7A/p7a_aa-la84a-te_VMS_IO_Users_Reference_Manual_Part 1_apr88.tar ./VMS_5.0_Apr88/P7A/p7a_aa-la85a-ate_VMS_IO_Users_Reference_Manual_Part 2_Apr88.tar ./VMS_5.0_Apr88/P7B/aa-la86a-te_VMS_Delta_XDelta_Utility_Manual.tar ./VMS_5.0_A
Re: Too many DEC binders
On 8/24/2019 3:30 PM, John H. Reinhardt via cctalk wrote: I'll have to double check, but from the looks of this list I don't need the VAX/VMS Grey Wall that I acquired a couple months ago. It's a nearly pristine set of the V5.0 VAX/VMS documentation set. Some volumes are still sealed in plastic. On 8/24/2019 12:03 PM, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote: here is a list of the manuals I have scanned but not pdf'ed ./VMS_5.0_Apr88/M1A/AA-LA23A-TE_VMS_System_Management_Master_Index_Apr88.tar ./VMS_5.0_Apr88/M1A/m1a_aa-la24a-te_Introduction_to_VMS_System_Management_apr88.tar ./VMS_5.0_Apr88/M1A/m1a_aa-la25a-te_Guide_to_Setting_Up_a_VMS_System_apr88.tar ./VMS_5.0_Apr88/M1A/m1a_aa-la26a-te_VMS_SYSMAN_Utility_Manual_apr88.tar ./VMS_5.0_Apr88/M1B/m1b_aa-la27a-te_VMS_VAXcluster_Manual_apr88.tar ./VMS_5.0_Apr88/M1B/m1b_aa-la28a-te_VMS_Exchange_Utility_Manual_apr88.tar ./VMS_5.0_Apr88/M1B/m1b_aa-la29a-te_VMS_Install_Utility_Manual.tar ./VMS_5.0_Apr88/M1B/m1b_aa-la30a-te_VMS_System_Generation_Utility_Manual.tar ./VMS_5.0_Apr88/M1B/m1b_aa-la31a-te_VMS_Terminal_Fallback_Utility_Manual.tar ./VMS_5.0_Apr88/M1B/m1b_aa-la32a-te_VMS_LAT_Control_Program_LATCP_Manual.tar ./VMS_5.0_Apr88/M2/m2_aa-la34a-te_Guide_to_Maintaining_a_VMS_System.tar ./VMS_5.0_Apr88/M2/m2_aa-la35a-te_VMS_Backup_Utility_Manual.tar ./VMS_5.0_Apr88/M2/m2_aa-la36a-te_VMS_Bad_Block_Locator_Utility_Manual.tar ./VMS_5.0_Apr88/M2/m2_aa-la37a-te_VMS_Error_Log_Utility_Manual.tar ./VMS_5.0_Apr88/M2/m2_aa-la38a-te_VMS_Mount_Utility_Manual.tar ./VMS_5.0_Apr88/M2/m2_aa-la39a-te_VMS_Analyze_Disk_Structure_Utility_Manual.tar ./VMS_5.0_Apr88/M3/m3_aa-la40b-te_Guide_to_VMS_System_Security.tar ./VMS_5.0_Apr88/M3/m3_aa-la41a-te_VMS_Access_Control_List_Editor_Manual.tar ./VMS_5.0_Apr88/M3/m3_aa-la42a-te_VMS_Authorize_Utility_Manual.tar ./VMS_5.0_Apr88/M3/m3_aa-ng63a-te_VMS_Audit_Analysis_Utility_Manual_jun89.tar ./VMS_5.0_Apr88/M4/aa-la43a-te_Guide_to_VMS_Performance_Management.tar ./VMS_5.0_Apr88/M4/aa-la43a-te_guide_to_VMS_performance_Mangement_apr88.tar ./VMS_5.0_Apr88/M4/aa-la44a-te_VMS_Accounting_Utility_Manual.tar ./VMS_5.0_Apr88/M4/aa-la45a-te_VMS_Monitor_Utility_Manual/aa-la45a-te_b.tar ./VMS_5.0_Apr88/M4/aa-la45a-te_VMS_Monitor_Utility_Manual/aa-la45a-te_f.tar ./VMS_5.0_Apr88/M4/aa-la45a-te_Vms_monitor_utility_manual_apr88.tar ./VMS_5.0_Apr88/M4/aa-la46a-te_VMS_Show_Cluster_Utility_Manual.tar ./VMS_5.0_Apr88/M5A/m5a_aa-la47a-te_Guide_to_DECnet-VAX_Networking_apr88.tar ./VMS_5.0_Apr88/M5A/m5a_aa-la48a-te_VMS_Networking_Manual_apr88.tar ./VMS_5.0_Apr88/M5B/m5b_aa-la49a-te_VMS_DECnet_Test_Sender_DECnet_Test_Receiver_Utility_Manual_apr88.tar ./VMS_5.0_Apr88/M5B/m5b_aa-la50a-te_VMS_Network_Control_Program_Manual_apr88.tar ./VMS_5.0_Apr88/P1/AA-LA56A-TE_VMS_Programming_Master_Index_Apr88.tar ./VMS_5.0_Apr88/P1/aa-la57a-te_Guide_to_VMS_Programming_Resources.tar ./VMS_5.0_Apr88/P1/p1_aa-la57a-te_apr88.tar ./VMS_5.0_Apr88/P1/p1_aa-la58a-te_Guide_to_Creating_VMS_Modular_Procedures_apr88.tar ./VMS_5.0_Apr88/P2A/aa-la59a-te_VMS_Debugger_Manual.tar ./VMS_5.0_Apr88/P2B/aa-la60a-te_VMS_Command_Definition_Utility_Manual.tar ./VMS_5.0_Apr88/P2B/aa-la61a-te_VMS_Librarian_Utility_Manual.tar ./VMS_5.0_Apr88/P2B/aa-la62a-te_VMS_Linker_Utility_Manual.tar ./VMS_5.0_Apr88/P2B/aa-la63a-te_VMS_Message_Utility_Manual.tar ./VMS_5.0_Apr88/P2B/aa-la64a-te_VMS_Patch_Utility_Manual.tar ./VMS_5.0_Apr88/P2B/aa-la65a-te_VMS_SUMSLP_Utility_Manual.tar ./VMS_5.0_Apr88/P3/aa-la66a-te_Introduction_to_VMS_System_Routines.tar ./VMS_5.0_Apr88/P3/aa-la67a-te_VMS_Utility_Routines_Manual.tar ./VMS_5.0_Apr88/P4A/aa-la68a-te_Introduction_to_VMS_System_Services.tar ./VMS_5.0_Apr88/P4B/aa-la69a-te_VMS_System_Services_Reference_Manual_apr88.tar ./VMS_5.0_Apr88/P5A/aa-la70a-te_Introduction_to_the_VMS_Run-Time_Library_apr88.tar ./VMS_5.0_Apr88/P5A/aa-la71a-te_vms_rtl_Dectalk_manual_apr88.tar ./VMS_5.0_Apr88/P5A/aa-la72a-te.tar ./VMS_5.0_Apr88/P5A/aa-la72a-te_vms_rtl_mathematics_manual_5.4_jun90.tar ./VMS_5.0_Apr88/P5A/aa-la73a-te_vms_rtl_general_purpose_manual_apr88.tar ./VMS_5.0_Apr88/P5A/aa-la74a-te.tar ./VMS_5.0_Apr88/P5A/aa-la74a-te_vms_rtl_parallel_processing_manual_5.4_Jun90.tar ./VMS_5.0_Apr88/P5B/p5b_aa-la76a-te_VMS_RTL_Library_LIB$_Manual_apr88.tar ./VMS_5.0_Apr88/P5C/aa-la75a-te_vms_rtl_string_manipulation_manual_Apr88.tar ./VMS_5.0_Apr88/P5C/aa-la77a-te_vms_rtl_Screen_management_manual_Apr88.tar ./VMS_5.0_Apr88/P6A/aa-la78a-te_guide_to_vms_file_applications_Apr88.tar ./VMS_5.0_Apr88/P6A/aa-la79a-te_VMS_Analyze_RMS_File_Utility_Manual.tar ./VMS_5.0_Apr88/P6A/aa-la81a-te_VMS_File_Definition_Language_Facility_Manual.tar ./VMS_5.0_Apr88/P6A/aa-la82a-te_VMS_National_Character_Set_Utility_Manual.tar ./VMS_5.0_Apr88/P6B/aa-la83a-te.tar ./VMS_5.0_Apr88/P6B/aa-la83a-te_vms_record_management_services_reference_manual_apr88.tar ./VMS_5.0_Apr88/P7A/p7a_aa-la84a-te_VMS_IO_Users_Reference_Manual_Part 1_apr88.tar ./VMS_5.0_Apr88/P7A/p7a_aa-la85a-ate_VMS_IO_Users_Reference_Manual_Part 2_Apr88.tar ./VMS_5.0_Apr88/P7B/
Re: Raspberry Pi write cycles
On 8/24/2019 2:16 AM, Lars Brinkhoff via cctalk wrote: Zane Healy wrote: I use RPi3’s for PDP-10 and DPS-8 emulation, I haven’t tried them for VAX emulation. I would like to try a RPi4 for VAX emulation. I have an RPi4 running ITS. I attached a fast USB3 memory rather than running off the SD card. For the full ITS rebuild from scratch it takes two hours rather, compared to one hour on my Core i7 2.4 GHz laptop. An RPi2 with slow SD card takes around 24 hours! I just did a "make all" for SimH on a 1GB Pi 4B using a SanDisk industrial 8GB SD card and it took 75 minutes to build the 75 different emulators. It has the latest updates to Raspbian Buster. What USB3 thumb drive did you use? -- John H. Reinhardt
Re: Too many DEC binders
I have done some test scans tonight. If anyone has any feedback, now would be a good time to give it, before I spend many more hours scanning. http://aaronsplace.co.uk/private/myscans/ Thanks, Aaron Aaron Jackson writes: > Many thanks to Matt Burke and Al Kassow, I have reduced my list of "need > to scan" to 24 manuals. If anyone has any of these, please let me know > so I can avoid scanning them. > > AA-Y510B-TEGuide to VAX / VMS System Security > AI-Y517A-TEVAX / VMS User's Manual > AA-Z501C-TEVAX / VMS System Services Reference Manual > AA-H501B-TCDECnet/E Network Programming in BASIC-PLUS and BASIC-PLUS-2 > AA-H503B-TCDECnet/E Network Programming in COBOL > AA-Z501C-TEVAX / VMS Run-Time Library Routines Reference Manual > AA-JF88A-TEVAX / VMS Release Notes, Version 4.5 > AA-M269B-TCDECnet/E Release Notes > AA-K714A-TCDECnet/E Network Installation Guide > AA-L266A-TCDECnet/E Network Programming in FORTRAN > AA-L265A-TCDECnet/E Network Programming in MACRO-11 > AA-Z601C-TEVAX / VMS I/O User's Reference Manual: Part II > AA-M539A-TEVAX / VMS Magnetic Tape User Guide > AA-D113C-TEVAX-11 SORT / MERGE User's Guide > AA-Z505C-TEPart II Run-Time Library Routines > AA-KX22A-TELAT / VMS Management Guide > AA-KX21A-TEVAX / VMS Supplemental Information, Version 4.7 > AD-L034A-28VAX / VMS System Dispatch November 1985 > AD-LO34A-31VAX / VMS System Dispatch May 1986 > AD-L034A-27VAX / VMS System Dispatch September 1985 > AD-L034A-29VAX / VMS System Dispatch January 1986 > AD-L034A-30VAX / VMS System Dispatch March 1986 > AD-L034A-26VAX / VMS System Dispatch July 1985 > AD-L034A-32VAX / VMS System Dispatch July 1986 > > http://aaronsplace.co.uk/dec-manuals.html This page has been updated to > reflect what has already digitised. > > Thanks, > Aaron > > Aaron Jackson via cctalk writes: > >> I have a full book case of DEC binders, each containing one or more >> manuals. I went through the lot of it this evening and checked to see >> what was on bitsavers. It seems an awful lot of it is not available. I >> cannot bring myself to dispose of any of it until it is digitised, but >> keeping hold of this much paper is not practical for me. >> >> I'm going to try to scan as much as I can. The full list of what I have >> is available at the link below. It is mostly mid 1980's VAX/VMS >> stuff.. If anyone would like one of the manuals for the cost of >> shipping, I'd gladly send it over to you. >> >> http://aaronsplace.co.uk/dec-manuals.html >> >> *** If there is anything you consider a priority in terms of being >> scanned, please let me know and I'll try to do it sooner, rather than >> later. *** >> >> Finally, I'd like to mention that these manuals came from a friend, >> Marc, who passed away early last year. Marc used to be somewhat active >> on this list (more so the #classiccmp IRC channel). A friend of Marc >> will be participating in a walk for the Campaign Against Living >> Miserably (CALM) charity. If anyone is willing to donate (even a small >> amount), it would mean a lot to me. CALM is a charity supporting men who >> suffer from depression - one of the leading killers of men under 45 in >> the UK. >> >> https://www.justgiving.com/fundraising/losthourswalk2019inmemoryofmarc >> >> Many thanks, >> Aaron
Re: Too many DEC binders
On 8/24/19 10:45 AM, Toby Thain wrote: > By the way, what's your position on scanning two-colour printed manuals > like the DTR ones? Not worth keeping the colour for Bitsavers? I'd like to do it for all the multi-color text manuals, but I never came up with a way to map to single shades per color from a png
Re: Too many DEC binders
On 8/24/19 1:38 PM, John H. Reinhardt via cctalk wrote: > On 8/24/2019 3:30 PM, John H. Reinhardt via cctalk wrote: >> I'll have to double check, but from the looks of this list I don't need the >> VAX/VMS Grey Wall that I acquired a couple >> months ago. It's a nearly pristine set of the V5.0 VAX/VMS documentation >> set. Some volumes are still sealed in plastic. I'll see about getting those up and checked There is just a lot to do
Re: Shipping from Europe to USA
John Herron wrote: > > With all of the stories. I don't know if it exists internationally but I > think the moral is get insurance with shipper. > What use is insurance? If the unique machine that you have been searching for for so long it destroyed in shipping, the insurance company pays you less than it's value (they're not going to pay you greater than it's value) in money but does nothing to help you locate another example of the same machine and get it shipped safely to you. Maybe a better moral would be "If you want to make sure it arrives safely, go and get it yourself". Regards, Peter Coghlan. > > On Thu, Aug 22, 2019, 12:31 PM Steven Stengel via cctalk < > cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > > > Howdo I ship a 50 pound computer from Europe to the United States? Who > > has good rates? > > Thanks- > > Steve > > > > > > >
Re: Too many DEC binders
On 8/24/2019 4:11 PM, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote: On 8/24/19 1:38 PM, John H. Reinhardt via cctalk wrote: On 8/24/2019 3:30 PM, John H. Reinhardt via cctalk wrote: I'll have to double check, but from the looks of this list I don't need the VAX/VMS Grey Wall that I acquired a couple months ago. It's a nearly pristine set of the V5.0 VAX/VMS documentation set. Some volumes are still sealed in plastic. I'll see about getting those up and checked There is just a lot to do No hurry, Al. I tend to work more with the more modern versions - VAX 7.3 and Alpha/Integrity 8.x. I just saw them on Ebay, checked to see if they had been archived anywhere and didn't see them in the usual places and didn't want them lost. That you have them already scanned, just awaiting that precious time is fine with me. I have some RSX-11M manuals coming next week. I think they are not online, but I won't know for sure until they arrive. -- John H. Reinhardt
Re: Too many DEC binders
On 8/24/2019 3:56 PM, Aaron Jackson via cctalk wrote: I have done some test scans tonight. If anyone has any feedback, now would be a good time to give it, before I spend many more hours scanning. http://aaronsplace.co.uk/private/myscans/ Thanks, Aaron I looked at the Error Log Utility Manual and it seems good. Download size of 2.6MB is reasonable. The clarity is good at 100%. I zoomed in to 600% and the character edges were starting to get ragged but as far as I know that should be good. I shrunk down to 50% and they were a little hard to read but I'm on a Mac using Preview and that happens to all documents as far as I can tell. I haven't checked with Adobe. The colors seemed good, too. The covers were good and the red highlights inside were legible. -- John H. Reinhardt
Processing two-colour printed manuals - was Re: Too many DEC binders
On 2019-08-24 5:09 p.m., Al Kossow wrote: > > > On 8/24/19 10:45 AM, Toby Thain wrote: > >> By the way, what's your position on scanning two-colour printed manuals >> like the DTR ones? Not worth keeping the colour for Bitsavers? > > I'd like to do it for all the multi-color text manuals, but I never came up > with a way > to map to single shades per color from a png > > > Have you looked at Matt Zucker's noteshrink? Not exactly what you're asking, but still possibly useful for duotone work: https://github.com/mzucker/noteshrink I did some brainstorming with Aaron (OP) recently and I think it would be possible to do a good isolation of the second colour, automatically. Might hack something up because the DATATRIEVE stuff is all printed in 2 inks. (Assuming noteshrink isn't good enough.) --Toby
Re: ADM-3A question
Today I got home and my Mouser order had arrived. I soldered in the new 6-position DIP switch and popped a new 1488 in the socket. Nice RS232 data coming out... for about 10 seconds, then the transmit data line went to around +2 volts and stayed there. WTF. Tried another one, same thing. Went back to the first new chip, same thing - so it's not blown (and maybe the old one wasn't either). OK, it has to be the power supplies. Again. Sure enough, +12 was sinking slowly until it was near zero at which point the RS232 output basically went floating... This looked familiar and it didn't take long to discover that the CT on the transformer for the + and - 12 volt supplies was open again!! This time it was the wire from the transformer broken as it entered the Molex connector. Fixed that, back in business. I am amazed that none of the epoxy drop tantalums on the high leg with the open neutral have blown. Maybe they're open circuit :) Also I don't know what gorilla at the salvage place was connecting/disconnecting until he found a combo of base, board and monitor that worked. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus
Re: Shipping from Europe to USA
On 08/24/2019 04:06 PM, Peter Coghlan via cctalk wrote: What use is insurance? If the unique machine that you have been searching for for so long it destroyed in shipping, the insurance company pays you less than it's value It seems shippers have some label or something that identifies high-value packages, and if one gets damaged, some manager comes down hard on the person who did it. So, packages that are insured for higher values are USUALLY treated with greater care. Accidents can happen, of course. There also seems to be a BIG difference in the usual level of care provided by different shippers. I have had several things smashed by UPS, some of them REALLY took a lot of effort to smash. I have NEVER had even the SLIGHTEST damage with FedEx, even their ground service. This could just be statistical chance, but I don't think so. I also had several international shipments with the US Post Office just totally disappear if I forgot to insure them. Never had one damaged or lost if insured. Jon
