M7819 DZ11 boards and others for parts

2019-07-11 Thread Paul Anderson via cctalk
I have a ton of DEC boards that I will probably never use. I sell off what
I can, when I can, but have large quantities of some and no need for them.
I have to do something and I like recycling cans and plastic, but not
computer parts. If anyone can use these or any other DEC board, feel free
to contact me off list.

I would prefer to sell in qty, but will consider all requests. If you are
parting them out and don't want them, I will reduce the price and keep the
fingers.

Thanks, Paul


Re: 5 1/4 diskettes available

2019-07-11 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
On 7/11/19 12:29 AM, Guy Dunphy via cctalk wrote:
> At 08:27 PM 10/07/2019 -0700, Grumpy Ol' Fred wrote:
>> The 5.25" diskette or "Mini-diskette" is bar napkin size, because Dr. Wang
>> said that 8" diskettes were too big.  I have not been able to track down
>> WHICH bar.
> 
> Perhaps the same bar where someone bet L Ron Hubbard that he couldn't create 
> a religion?
> 

The only successful Sci Fi he ever created.

bill



Re: 5 1/4 diskettes available

2019-07-11 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
On 7/10/19 2:32 PM, Will Cooke via cctalk wrote:
> BG Micro, a surplus electronics dealer I buy from sometimes, has diskettes 
> for sale.  I don't know anything about them, but thought it may be of 
> interest.  I have no affiliation other than being a customer on their mailing 
> list.
> Here is a link to the site:
> https://www.bgmicro.com/4-pack-of-5-25-floppy-diskettes-with-sleeves.aspx
> 
> Will
> 

That's not the same BG Micro we bought stuff from in the
early 80's, is it?

bill


Re: 5 1/4 diskettes available

2019-07-11 Thread Will Cooke via cctalk


> On July 11, 2019 at 9:10 AM Bill Gunshannon via cctalk 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> On 7/10/19 2:32 PM, Will Cooke via cctalk wrote:
> > BG Micro, a surplus electronics dealer I buy from sometimes, has diskettes 
> > for sale. I don't know anything about them, but thought it may be of 
> > interest. I have no affiliation other than being a customer on their 
> > mailing list.
> > Here is a link to the site:
> > https://www.bgmicro.com/4-pack-of-5-25-floppy-diskettes-with-sleeves.aspx
> > 
> > Will
> 
> That's not the same BG Micro we bought stuff from in the
> early 80's, is it?
> 
> bill

The one with the yellow photocopied catalog?  That's the same one.  
The owner/founder passed away a year or two ago and I believe his daughter is 
running it now.

Will


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Re: KL10-A/KL10-B differences

2019-07-11 Thread Noel Chiappa via cctalk
> From: Eric Smith

> two separate backplanes that are combined for the RH20s (if
> present), one backplane for the A through D positions (upper 2/3 of
> each module slot), and one for E and F.

How odd. DEC was quite happy to do hex backplanes elsewhere, and it looks
from the photo (EK-108OU-PD-002, pg. 3-8) like the MASSBUS connector are
wired to both backplanes, so they had to stay together.


>> On the -PA to -PV upgrade, could the backplane really be done with
>> some wraps? I ask because I saw in one manual, talking about a
>> KL10-C to -PV upgrade, it calls for a backplane swap-out.

EK-0KL20-IN-001 ("KL10-Based DECSystem-20 Installation Manual"), in
Section 10.2 "KL10-PV Upgrade Procedure for KL10-C", if anyone wants to
look.

> I'm not entirely sure, so I easily could have been mistaken. I know
> -PV to -PW just needs some wraps. -PA to -PV may have required more
> significant backplane changes. Definitely they have different part
> numbers for the -PA and -PV backplane assemblies.

Yeah, DEC was quite happy to have the FS guys do wirewrap on install (e.g.
for the NIA20). So my guess is that if the default upgrade for at least
one -PA to -PV (above) was to replace the backplane, that would have been
the standard way, because of some issue.

Whether it was just too many wires to do manually, or if there were also
trace issues, it would be interesting to know. Oh, it's also possible that
since the -PA to -PV involved a faster clock, I wonder if some backplane
lines turned into twisted pair, or coax?

Noel


Re: 5 1/4 diskettes available

2019-07-11 Thread Jason T via cctalk
> On 7/10/19 11:32 AM, Will Cooke via cctalk wrote:
>
> > https://www.bgmicro.com/4-pack-of-5-25-floppy-diskettes-with-sleeves.aspx
>
> They have hub rings, so they are probably 360K

Weren't these 89 cents when this was first posted?  Well they're $1.89 now.

You're altering the market!


Re: 5 1/4 diskettes available

2019-07-11 Thread Guy Dunphy via cctalk
At 03:47 PM 11/07/2019 -0500, you wrote:
>> On 7/10/19 11:32 AM, Will Cooke via cctalk wrote:
>>
>> > https://www.bgmicro.com/4-pack-of-5-25-floppy-diskettes-with-sleeves.aspx
>>
>> They have hub rings, so they are probably 360K
>
>Weren't these 89 cents when this was first posted?  Well they're $1.89 now.
>You're altering the market!

So they are! Oops. Sorry! 
Maybe they had a rush of orders, and it's not entirely my fault?
Or maybe the 89c price was a typo, and my order alerted them?

They confirmed my order. Fingers crossed they actually ship them, and it doesn't
turn into an argument about honoring transactions. Though probably, a higher 
postage
cost would be fair. 88 floppies and covers will weigh a bit. (Should have 
bought 100.)

4 Pack of 5.25" Floppy Diskettes with Sleeves
COM1147   22   $0.89$19.58
Subtotal:   $19.58
Shipping & Handling: $6.95
Tax: $0.00
Order Total:$26.53

That's an easily altered market. I am a lovely butterfly, fear my flapping 
wings!

Guy


Re: 5 1/4 diskettes available

2019-07-11 Thread TeoZ via cctalk

At least shipping is cheap.

Never seen a 4 pack before. I still have tons of green 5.25" DD disks I 
picked up bulk when I got into 8 bit computers in the early 2000's. 
Duplicators were dumping them so cheap back then, wish I would have snagged 
more of the 3.5" DD back then.


TZ


-Original Message- 
From: Guy Dunphy via cctalk

Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2019 7:21 PM
To: Jason T ; General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
Subject: Re: 5 1/4 diskettes available

At 03:47 PM 11/07/2019 -0500, you wrote:

On 7/10/19 11:32 AM, Will Cooke via cctalk wrote:

> https://www.bgmicro.com/4-pack-of-5-25-floppy-diskettes-with-sleeves.aspx

They have hub rings, so they are probably 360K


Weren't these 89 cents when this was first posted?  Well they're $1.89 now.
You're altering the market!


So they are! Oops. Sorry!
Maybe they had a rush of orders, and it's not entirely my fault?
Or maybe the 89c price was a typo, and my order alerted them?

They confirmed my order. Fingers crossed they actually ship them, and it 
doesn't
turn into an argument about honoring transactions. Though probably, a higher 
postage
cost would be fair. 88 floppies and covers will weigh a bit. (Should have 
bought 100.)


4 Pack of 5.25" Floppy Diskettes with Sleeves
COM1147   22   $0.89$19.58
Subtotal:   $19.58
Shipping & Handling: $6.95
Tax: $0.00
Order Total:$26.53

That's an easily altered market. I am a lovely butterfly, fear my flapping 
wings!


Guy 



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