Re: VCF Southeast Photos
Very nice photos although I am confused by some. Some of them appear to be moving but a lot of stuff stays still. What is happening?? This one for example: https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipMxQT03fXAj3rZSF8jUm5IrLnmLnVYTTP_hgiNtZ6z-0-pKjaFeKB3aw1ItxldqKA/photo/AF1QipPyuT8UHx84MIB-PxX5L04jePbF6tP80ojp73Iz?key=RjVnUU5qZ19haWNrbkkxMmF2bTFlMndiOFlkRWxB Aaron On 1 May 2019 at 21:10 BST, Jason T via cctalk wrote: > Last weekend I made an unannounced visit out to Roswell, GA to visit > our brothers-and-sisters-in-hoarding at the Vintage Computer Festival > Southeast. They were hosted by the new location of the Computer > Museum of America, not yet open to the public. The show was a solid > representation of the hobby, with a wide range of micros, minis and > workstations as well as a few calculators and computing ephemera. On > the museum side, I've never seen so many Crays in once place - and > they're not even done yet! > > Here is my photo set: https://photos.app.goo.gl/aiKGadREX511xeUt5 > (contains computers, computer collectors and one giant rabbit) > > Big thanks to Earl and the gang for putting on another great VCF and > showing me that southern hospitality. > > More VCF Midwest news coming soon! > > -j -- Aaron Jackson, Research Associate Computer Vision Lab, University of Nottingham http://aaronsplace.co.uk
Re: VCF Southeast Photos
On Fri, 3 May 2019 at 10:41, Aaron Jackson via cctalk wrote: > > Very nice photos although I am confused by some. Some of them appear to > be moving but a lot of stuff stays still. What is happening?? Please bottom-post on the list. It looks to me like an Apple "live photo". -- Liam Proven - Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk - Google Mail/Hangouts/Plus: lpro...@gmail.com Twitter/Facebook/Flickr: lproven - Skype/LinkedIn: liamproven UK: +44 7939-087884 - ČR (+ WhatsApp/Telegram/Signal): +420 702 829 053
Keyboards added today
Some you might want, since they go to Link terminals. http://www.elecshopper.com/nmb-rt8255c-at-keyboard.html http://www.elecshopper.com/fujitsu-fkb-4700-series-keyboard.html http://www.elecshopper.com/nmb-rt-101-keyboard-complete.html http://www.elecshopper.com/link-t27-keyboard.html http://www.elecshopper.com/macro-mc-27-keyboard.html Cindy Croxton Electronics Plus 1613 Water Street Kerrville, TX 78028 830-370-3239 cell sa...@elecplus.com --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus
Re: VCF Southeast Photos, Now Thinking Machines
>> It's a CM-2. The problem with most CM-2s - aside not working in 2019 - is >> most were never fully populated with card cages in all 8 hyper-cubes. That >> particular machine only has card cages in 2 of the hyper-cubes. The other 6 >> are empty. I'm not sure a machine with max 64K processors was ever actually >> sold to a real customer. > Very cool to see some of these being preserved. > Is there any documentation still around? I did a quick check on bitsavers, but couldn’t find any… was I looking in the wrong place?
Honeywell Terminals?
Out of curiosity, how common are Honeywell terminals like would have been used on a DPS-8? Zane
Re: Honeywell Terminals?
I’m not surprised, I’ve not used one since the early 90’s. Zane > On May 3, 2019, at 11:05 AM, Electronics Plus wrote: > > I have some pics of them, but I no longer have them. Have not seen any in > years. > > -Original Message- > From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Zane Healy > via cctalk > Sent: Friday, May 03, 2019 1:01 PM > To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts > Subject: Honeywell Terminals? > > Out of curiosity, how common are Honeywell terminals like would have been > used on a DPS-8? > > Zane > > > > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus >
RE: Honeywell Terminals?
I have some pics of them, but I no longer have them. Have not seen any in years. -Original Message- From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Zane Healy via cctalk Sent: Friday, May 03, 2019 1:01 PM To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts Subject: Honeywell Terminals? Out of curiosity, how common are Honeywell terminals like would have been used on a DPS-8? Zane --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus
Wilson Labs WBC-3000 (was Re: Q Bus front panel)
On 5/1/19 4:11 PM, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote: > I did decide to get the Wilson Labs RL01 emulator he just listed. Put up some pics. The electronics weren't at all what I was expecting http://bitsavers.org/pdf/wilsonLabs/WBC-3000 it has a 1.2gb SCSI drive inside.
Dallas drive
I plan to go to Dallas next week for a quick run. Things I know are there: IBM XT and AT computers with kbds, no monitors. (3 pallets last I checked) CASES of NIB 360K internal floppy drives (not diskettes) for the original IBM PC Some hdd for the original PCs, new and used Defective IBM monitors (flybacks are no longer made) Parts for 5140 computers, some NIB (no kbds) Original DEC things that have orange flippy switches-WARNING! Smells like dead rats and rat poop. Nasty condition! Looks something like this https://obsolescence.wixsite.com/obsolescence/pidp-11 Lots of NIB off brand old computers, PCs, like Apex by Compaq Most of the stuff is PC or laptop related Let me know what u want and what u want to pay, I will bring it home and ship. Car will only hold so much. Cindy Croxton Electronics Plus 1613 Water Street Kerrville, TX 78028 830-370-3239 cell sa...@elecplus.com --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus
Re: Wilson Labs WBC-3000 (was Re: Q Bus front panel)
> On May 3, 2019, at 12:13 PM, Al Kossow via cctalk > wrote: > On 5/1/19 4:11 PM, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote: > >> I did decide to get the Wilson Labs RL01 emulator he just listed. > > Put up some pics. The electronics weren't at all what I was expecting > http://bitsavers.org/pdf/wilsonLabs/WBC-3000 > > it has a 1.2gb SCSI drive inside. Interesting device, reminds me in some ways of a Webster WQESD/04, with the advantage of not requiring an ESDI Hard Drive. Zane
Decrepit old HDD
I have the opportunity to purchase some old 50-pin SCSI, ESDI, MFM, RLL etc. drives. There is no way to test them, and there are no refunds. There are no dents or obvious signs of damage, but that means noting. Is there any way to resurrect these if they are dead/defective? Any interest? Cindy Croxton Electronics Plus 1613 Water Street Kerrville, TX 78028 830-370-3239 cell sa...@elecplus.com --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus
Re: Dallas drive
On Fri, May 03, 2019 at 02:26:41PM -0500, Electronics Plus via cctalk wrote: > Original DEC things that have orange flippy switches-WARNING! Smells like > dead rats and rat poop. Nasty condition! Looks something like this > https://obsolescence.wixsite.com/obsolescence/pidp-11 I'd love to help drive up, especially to look at this unit, but I have already made other committments. Consider the F-150 volunteered for "next time". mcl
Re: Decrepit old HDD
It is rarely PRACTICAL to repair a dead drive. If it has important data on it, then repairing or swapping the board is sometimes done. It is extremely rare that there would be a need sufficient to justify opening the "bubble". But, often, drives are identified as being dead or defective, when all that they need is to redo the low level format. On Fri, 3 May 2019, Electronics Plus via cctalk wrote: I have the opportunity to purchase some old 50-pin SCSI, ESDI, MFM, RLL etc. drives. There is no way to test them, and there are no refunds. There are no dents or obvious signs of damage, but that means noting. Is there any way to resurrect these if they are dead/defective? Any interest? Cindy Croxton Electronics Plus 1613 Water Street Kerrville, TX 78028 830-370-3239 cell sa...@elecplus.com --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus
I need some education (PDP)
So I called my buddy of 20+ years. Got old PDP junk left? Like what kinda junk? PDP 8 or 11? Hmm, got PDP 8 boards and BA11 boxes. PDP11 makes no sense, it is a series, 11/70 or what? I know NOTHING about this stuff. I told him slide in boxes with flippy switches. He laughed and said he will send me over a list of all the OLD DEC stuff left in the warehouse. Shipping will be from Calif. Pickup avail, or shipping, for rack stuff. Cindy Croxton Electronics Plus 1613 Water Street Kerrville, TX 78028 830-370-3239 cell sa...@elecplus.com --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus
Re: VCF Southeast Photos, Now Thinking Machines
On 5/3/19 8:02 PM, Sytse van Slooten via cctalk wrote: It's a CM-2. The problem with most CM-2s - aside not working in 2019 - is most were never fully populated with card cages in all 8 hyper-cubes. That particular machine only has card cages in 2 of the hyper-cubes. The other 6 are empty. I'm not sure a machine with max 64K processors was ever actually sold to a real customer. Very cool to see some of these being preserved. Is there any documentation still around? I did a quick check on bitsavers, but couldn’t find any… was I looking in the wrong place? Here is some documentation: http://people.csail.mit.edu/bradley/cm5docs/ Also there are a couple of documents on archive.org like the CM chip specification: https://archive.org/details/06Kahle001103 - Jan
RS2030 MIPS workstation
Anyone know much about early MIPS workstations? I'm trying to get a MIPS RS2030 to boot, without much luck so far. It goes through the selftest but stops with the internal LED display at "5" accompanied by a continuous beep. Known problems: - The Dallas DS1287 battery is flat; I can hack a 3V lithium onto that. I assume it should still work to some extent even if the contents are lost? - The RAM is highly suspect. I think it needs a minimum of 8MB to start up. It has a good complement of SIPPs, but some of them are definitely non-original and are actually 30-pin SIMMs that somebody has done a rubbish job of soldering short stiff wires onto. So I'd like to know what the RAM spec really is, whether I need to reprogram the Dallas chip (and if so what goes where), and what the diagnostic numbers on the internal LED mean. Anyone? -- Pete Pete Turnbull
Re: RS2030 MIPS workstation
On 5/3/19 3:22 PM, Pete Turnbull via cctalk wrote: > Anyone know much about early MIPS workstations? I'm trying to get a MIPS > RS2030 to boot, without much luck so far. It > goes through the selftest but stops with the internal LED display at "5" > accompanied by a continuous beep. > > Known problems: > > - The Dallas DS1287 battery is flat; I can hack a 3V lithium onto that. I > assume it should still work to some extent > even if the contents are lost? > > - The RAM is highly suspect. I think it needs a minimum of 8MB to start up. > It has a good complement of SIPPs, but > some of them are definitely non-original and are actually 30-pin SIMMs that > somebody has done a rubbish job of soldering > short stiff wires onto. > > So I'd like to know what the RAM spec really is, whether I need to reprogram > the Dallas chip (and if so what goes > where), and what the diagnostic numbers on the internal LED mean. Anyone? > http://www.geekdot.com/the-mips-rs2030/ someone else had the same problem in the comments
Re: RS2030 MIPS workstation
On 5/3/19 4:25 PM, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote: > http://www.geekdot.com/the-mips-rs2030/ > > someone else had the same problem in the comments > > also, there is a simulation running in mame if you look at drivers/mips.cpp you'll find the nvram layout /* * The following isn't a real dump, but a hand-made nvram image that allows * entry to the boot monitor. Variables can be adjusted via the monitor, * and are laid out as follows: * * Offset Length Variable *0x0e 4netaddr *0x12 1lbaud *0x13 1rbaud *0x14 20bootfile *0x28 1bootmode *0x29 1console *0x2a 1ponmask? or something similar *0x2b 3unused? *0x2e 4resetepc *0x32 4resetra *0x36 1keyswtch *0x37 1flag *0x38 8unused? * */
Re: RS2030 MIPS workstation
On 5/3/19 4:25 PM, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote: >> So I'd like to know what the RAM spec really is, whether I need to reprogram >> the Dallas chip (and if so what goes >> where), and what the diagnostic numbers on the internal LED mean. Anyone? >> I thought I threw them all away, but i just found two 3020s and a 2030 with a full set of SIMMs which seems to get through POST. Will try dumping the NVRAM
Re: RS2030 MIPS workstation
On 04/05/2019 01:04, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote: On 5/3/19 4:25 PM, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote: So I'd like to know what the RAM spec really is, whether I need to reprogram the Dallas chip (and if so what goes where), and what the diagnostic numbers on the internal LED mean. Anyone? I thought I threw them all away, but i just found two 3020s and a 2030 with a full set of SIMMs which seems to get through POST. Will try dumping the NVRAM Thanks - that would be very useful, if you have time and suitable hardware. I read the pages at geekdot.com a couple of weeks ago, but I'd not seen the MAME data. I did find a manual about the ROM on Bitsavers recently, so with that ans the MAME info I can probably work out what some of those settings should be if necessary. Sadly nothing I've found says anything about the internal LED display, but my suspicion is that the error is to do with bad RAM. -- Pete Pete Turnbull
Re: RS2030 MIPS workstation
On 5/3/19 5:22 PM, Pete Turnbull via cctalk wrote: > Thanks - that would be very useful, if you have time and suitable hardware. > I read the pages at geekdot.com a couple of > weeks ago, but I'd not seen the MAME data. I did find a manual about the ROM > on Bitsavers recently, so with that ans > the MAME info I can probably work out what some of those settings should be > if necessary. Sadly nothing I've found says > anything about the internal LED display, but my suspicion is that the error > is to do with bad RAM. > I see we all were talking about the M2030 around 3 years ago http://www.classiccmp.org/pipermail/cctech/2016-May/017829.html
Re: RS2030 MIPS workstation
On 5/3/19 3:22 PM, Pete Turnbull via cctalk wrote: > Anyone know much about early MIPS workstations? RISCos 4.52 src, incl monitor src up now under http://bitsavers.org/bits/MIPS/RISCos
Re: RS2030 MIPS workstation
On Fri, May 3, 2019, 7:53 PM Al Kossow via cctalk wrote: > > > On 5/3/19 3:22 PM, Pete Turnbull via cctalk wrote: > > Anyone know much about early MIPS workstations? > > RISCos 4.52 src, incl monitor src up now under > http://bitsavers.org/bits/MIPS/RISCos I have QIC tapes and a 300mb hard drive with riscos on it. I'm unsure the version, and it may be for the rs3xxx. I'll have to check. I think I still have the workstation and would be happy to see it go to a good home... I'll check... Warner > >
Re: I need some education (PDP)
Please send along that list when you get it. =] -- Anders Nelson +1 (517) 775-6129 www.erogear.com On Fri, May 3, 2019 at 4:05 PM Electronics Plus via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > So I called my buddy of 20+ years. > > Got old PDP junk left? > > Like what kinda junk? > > PDP 8 or 11? > > Hmm, got PDP 8 boards and BA11 boxes. PDP11 makes no sense, it is a series, > 11/70 or what? > > > > I know NOTHING about this stuff. I told him slide in boxes with flippy > switches. He laughed and said he will send me over a list of all the OLD > DEC > stuff left in the warehouse. Shipping will be from Calif. Pickup avail, or > shipping, for rack stuff. > > > > Cindy Croxton > > Electronics Plus > > 1613 Water Street > > Kerrville, TX 78028 > > 830-370-3239 cell > > sa...@elecplus.com > > > > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus >
found in the shelf - Case study of control data corporation 1958-1967 by Steven Arnold Estrin B.S.B
Found in the shelf in smecc library - Case study of control data corporation 1958-1967 by Steven Arnold Estrin B.S.B a master's thesis - anyone know him or this? Ed# at SMECC
