Re: sugar packjets anyone ever come across em?

2018-04-21 Thread E. Groenenberg via cctalk

On Fri, April 20, 2018 21:33, Adrian Stoness via cctalk wrote:
> anyone ever come across sugar packets? this came in a lot of manuals and
> documents that arived the other day kinda neat
> https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/800x512q90/922/T4MCLS.jpg
>

Wow, that's an oldie.

Sugar sachets (suikerzakjes) were pretty common in Europe in the '60 and
'70-ties.
Indeed they were collected, every cafe, restaurant or company did have
them and usually had their own printing on them. Later on they got
more or less replaced with packed sugar cubes and nowadays in sticks
with plain, boring sticks.

Ed
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Re: TRS-80 bits

2018-04-21 Thread Wouter de Waal via cctalk

Hi Jim and all


Hmm, I guess it does indeed depend on shipping costs, but I am looking
for a card cage for the 12, and they can be a bit tough to find.


Yea, we tend to use couriers but it runs to a few hundred dollars a pop.

I will send pics off-list sometime next week.

W



USB Panda Display for klh10 help

2018-04-21 Thread David Griffith via cctalk


I couple years ago I completed the design for my USB Panda Display[1] 
board.  This is a modernization of the original Panda Display once 
distributed by Spare Time Gizmos[2].  Both devices are intended to be 
connected to a more-or-less modern x86-class computer running the klh-10 
pdp10 emulator and provide useful blinkenlights.  The development of klh10 
is once again active, this time on Github[3].  I created my own repo of 
klh10 as a means of writing support for my new Panda Display.  The 
display seems to be recognized and used, but what it displays is 
meaningless.  I cannot fully test it until I can get the old test program 
compiled and working.  Once that's done, I'll add my changes to the 
PDP-10/klh10 repo and delete my own.


Here's a video of a computer with the old Panda Display running klh10: 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_LcQ5apODg.  The creator of that video, 
Jan de Rie, got the program that was used to generate that pattern from 
Mark Crispin, the creator of the Panda distribution of klh10.  That 
program appears at the end of this post.


I'm looking for someone who knows TOPS10 / TOPS20 well enough to figure 
out for me why this test program won't compile.  Once that's done, I can 
complete the firmware for the USB Panda Display an its support within 
klh10.  I'll then make more copies of the USB Panda Display board (and 
maybe overlays) for whoever wants them.



TITLE HACK
SEARCH MONSYM

HACK:   SKIPA 4,[^D4]
HACK0:   SOJL 4,TRAILL
SETZB 1,3
HACK1:  TLNE 1,77
 JRST HACK0
MOVE 2,1
CIRC 2,-^D18
SKIPN 4
 SKIPA 1,3
  IOR 1,3
LITES%
 HALT
HRRZ 2,1
MOVEI 1,30
DISMS%
MOVE 1,2
AOJA 1,HACK1

TRAILL: SETZ 1,
TRALL0: LITES%
 HALT
MOVE 2,1
MOVEI 1,30
DISMS%
JUMPL 2,TRAILR
LSHC 1,^D37
AOJA 1,TRALL0

TRAILR: MOVSI 1,40
TRALR0: LITES%
 HALT
MOVE 2,1
MOVEI 1,30
DISMS%
MOVE 1,2
TRNE 1,1
 JRST HACK
ASH 1,-1
JRST TRALR0

END HACK



[1] https://github.com/DavidGriffith/panda-display
[2] http://sparetimegizmos.com/Hardware/Panda.htm)
[3] https://github.com/PDP-10/klh10/

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Re: Multics Lives

2018-04-21 Thread Lyndon Nerenberg via cctalk

> On Apr 20, 2018, at 8:45 AM, Tomasz Rola via cctalk  
> wrote:
> 
> It seems to go unmentioned here, so here you are. One guy have set up
> a public Multics site.

More than one ;-)

$ ssh mult...@orthanc.ca
HSLA Port 
(d.h000,d.h001,d.h002,d.h003,d.h004,d.h005,d.h006,d.h007,d.h008,d.h009,d.h010,d.h011,d.h012,d.h013,d.h014,d.h015,d.h016,d.h017,d.h018,d.h019,d.h020,d.h021,d.h022,d.h023,d.h024,d.h025,d.h026,d.h027,d.h028,d.h029)?
 
Attached to line d.h000

Multics MR12.6f: Frobozz Magic Abacus Co. (Channel d.h000)
Load = 5.0 out of 90.0 units: users = 5, 04/21/18  1356.4 pst Sat


That gets you a guest login to play with.  There are no plans right now for 
individual accounts.

I'm also working on setting up a public MTS host ...