Re: Getting an ibm as/400
On Thu, 14 Apr 2016, Yvan Janssens wrote: Also, DD won't work on those disks; you'll have to use sg_utils and use raw SCSI commands to dump the disks. Linux DD uses the system calls to read block devices, and interestingly enough, they only support multiples of 512b for sector size on that. Dumping those disks isn't impossible, but you need the right tooling. Yes, the tool is simply called 'sg_dd' and works just like 'dd'. You must specify the right block size, though. Christian
Re: Getting an ibm as/400
Beautiful! Congratulations on the system On Wed, Apr 13, 2016 at 11:09 PM, devin davison wrote: > Couple of pictures. > > http://s20.postimg.org/zf5twva0d/20160413_210749.jpg > > > http://s20.postimg.org/dephg8rcd/20160413_210826.jpg > > http://s20.postimg.org/61eov0wod/20160413_210836.jpg > > On Wednesday, April 13, 2016, devin davison > wrote: > > > The size of two pc towers. I am trying to figure out how to log in. I > > tried the account qsecofr with pass qsecofr with no luck. I might > actually > > have a licenced os on this thing, it is very different from anything i > have > > worked with before. Not sure really where to go from here. > > > > The drives are scsi, are they in a standard filesystem format i could > read > > in a seperate machine? > > > > On Wednesday, April 13, 2016, Pontus Pihlgren > wrote: > > > >> Nice! I have a 170 (not up and running, no OS). Which variant do you > >> have. Is it > >> about the size of a PC tower or or two PC towers next to each other? > >> > >> /P > >> > >> On Wed, Apr 13, 2016 at 08:09:02PM -0400, devin davison wrote: > >> > Alright. Picked up the machine today. Much smaller than expected, but > >> > everything needed seems to be included. I got a terminal as well as a > >> box > >> > of cables. I managed to boot the machine up to the login screen. > >> However I > >> > do not know the username or password. I was speaking with someone on > the > >> > phone that was quite knowlegable, they said that after 3 attempts to > >> login > >> > it becomes a potato. What do i do from here. I am going to try and > >> contact > >> > the original owners, however i believe they are unwilling to help. Im > >> quite > >> > amazed the main drive was not wiped. Anyhow, if i can not get the > >> password > >> > from the original owners, there does appear to be a working install on > >> the > >> > drives, how would I go about resetting the password to gain access to > >> the > >> > machine? The machine is a ibm as/400e 170. > >> > > >> > pictures to follow once I find my camera. > >> > > >> > --Devin > >> > > >> > On Wed, Apr 13, 2016 at 4:45 PM, Mazzini Alessandro > >> wrote: > >> > > >> > > You had it easy. > >> > > > >> > > Once upon a time, a place I was working for decided to get a new > >> > > development > >> > > as/400. The toy was 2x the 270 you mentioned (hd cage taking one > >> side)... > >> > > and the shipping original ibm box upped the weight to dunno... king > >> kong. > >> > > It didn't fit in the elevator, and anyway exceeded the max weight. > >> > > > >> > > The office was 2 floors up > >> > > > >> > > We pushed it up, I still have the nightmares > >> > > > >> > > -Messaggio originale- > >> > > Da: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] Per conto di > Kevin > >> > > Monceaux > >> > > Inviato: mercoledì 13 aprile 2016 21:09 > >> > > A: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts > >> > > Oggetto: Re: Getting an ibm as/400 > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > On Wed, Apr 13, 2016 at 01:26:29AM -0400, Ian Primus wrote: > >> > > > >> > > > On Wed, Apr 13, 2016 at 12:42 AM, Jason T > >> wrote: > >> > > > >> > > > > In IBM-speak, it's a "Midrange." > >> > > > > >> > > > Which is a fancy word for "unusually heavy for its size". > >> > > > >> > > That's the truth. In a previous reply I mentioned I have a "small" > >> > > 9406-270 > >> > > in my living room. I found it listed on eBay. It was in New York. > >> I'm in > >> > > Central Texas. It was listed with a flat $50 shipping fee. From > the > >> > > photos > >> > > and shipping fee I was expecting something small enough to be > shipped > >> by > >> > > UPS > >> > > or FedEx. I made the seller an offer $50 less than the list price > >> which > >> > > they accepted, so I basically got free shipping. It was shipped by > >> UPS > >> > > - UPS Freight. There was no way UPS Fright could get down my > >> driveway so I > >> > > had to pick it up at their terminal. Fortunately it was shipped on > a > >> tiny > >> > > pallet that just fit in the back of my mini-van. It looks like an > >> > > oversized > >> > > tower PC, but is definitely unusually heavy for its size. I have to > >> use a > >> > > dolly to move it around. > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > -- > >> > > > >> > > Kevin > >> > > http://www.RawFedDogs.net > >> > > http://www.Lassie.xyz > >> > > http://www.WacoAgilityGroup.org > >> > > Bruceville, TX > >> > > > >> > > What's the definition of a legacy system? One that works! > >> > > Errare humanum est, ignoscere caninum. > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >
Re: DEC Legacy UK show
The tentative plan is to run the next one in October. The date should be firmed up in the next month or so. Typically I run the event once every 18 months or so. Regards, Mark. On 14 April 2016 at 15:50, Rob Jarratt wrote: > It is a very informal event, organised by Mark in his own time. He has > family and work commitments like all of us, so I expect he has not been > able to find the time. > > Regards > > Rob > > Sent from my Windows 10 phone > > From: Rod Smallwood > Sent: 14 April 2016 15:09 > To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts > Subject: Re: DEC Legacy UK show > > So why did it say See you in 2016? > > > On 14/04/2016 15:03, Dave Wade wrote: > > I thought Mark was only aiming for every two years. > > > >> -Original Message- > >> From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Rod > >> Smallwood > >> Sent: 14 April 2016 14:14 > >> To: General Discussion: On-Topic Posts > >> Subject: DEC Legacy UK show > >> > >> DEC Legacy UK show > >> > >> Where did it go ? > >> 2015 then nothing > >> > >> Rod Smallwood > >> > > > > >
Adapters for original SCSI drives to newer drives
What is a recommended adapter for replacing orig 50 pin SCSI disks with some of the newer surplus SCSI drives ? Here's what I have, I've got a HP 9000/382 without its disk drive, it was pulled to solve the (preconceived) notion of leaking sensitive software. Sadly not only the drive but the carrier. BTW like to see what one of the original carriers looks like Ideas ?
Re: DEC Legacy UK show
Well Hello!! Its the man himself. I had all kinds of visions of floods and other disasters. Tentative or not its a start. Where do I register as an exhibitor ? Rod On 14/04/2016 21:44, Mark Wickens wrote: The tentative plan is to run the next one in October. The date should be firmed up in the next month or so. Typically I run the event once every 18 months or so. Regards, Mark. On 14 April 2016 at 15:50, Rob Jarratt wrote: It is a very informal event, organised by Mark in his own time. He has family and work commitments like all of us, so I expect he has not been able to find the time. Regards Rob Sent from my Windows 10 phone From: Rod Smallwood Sent: 14 April 2016 15:09 To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts Subject: Re: DEC Legacy UK show So why did it say See you in 2016? On 14/04/2016 15:03, Dave Wade wrote: I thought Mark was only aiming for every two years. -Original Message- From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Rod Smallwood Sent: 14 April 2016 14:14 To: General Discussion: On-Topic Posts Subject: DEC Legacy UK show DEC Legacy UK show Where did it go ? 2015 then nothing Rod Smallwood
Re: Vintage Computer Forum
On 14 April 2016 at 16:04, Rod Smallwood wrote: > > I have no idea what you are talking about. > I have no user name no password or anything else to search with. > Please repeat your message in understandable English > > Rod Smallwood > Sorry. I simply assumed everyone would be familiar with the site: search format of e.g. google. As I didn't want to insert a direct link to your (or apparently yours) user page on a public forum I opted for how to find it instead. The search engines support a 'site:' keyword to limit searches to e.g. a single website. So, entering: site:www.vcfed.org/forum/ "Rod Smallwood" into the search field of google.com or most other search engines will search for your name not all over the net, but only on those pages limited by the 'site:' option. That'll lead you to the user page (and also some posts mentioning your name). But I see that others have posted the direct link anyway. As for your login problems, Erik or Evan K. (owner of the new home of the forum) should be able to help you out. CONFIDENTIALITY This e-mail and any attachment contain KONGSBERG information which may be proprietary, confidential or subject to export regulations, and is only meant for the intended recipient(s). Any disclosure, copying, distribution or use is prohibited, if not otherwise explicitly agreed with KONGSBERG. If received in error, please delete it immediately from your system and notify the sender properly.
RE: CYCLOPS: Here it is, but come see it in person at VCF East
Brent Hilpert wrote: > I had assumed that you came across a hobbyist unit > built in the 70's and was repairing or completing it. > Sounds like that's incorrect - this is a new build > from scratch? Yes, for certain definitions of "new" (more below). > including the printed circuit boards? Yes, I used "toner transfer" to make the board. The board is made from the original art in the article. Back to "new"... The copper clad board that was used is from a piece I bought in 1977 to make a memory addition for my OSI C1P. The IC sockets were recovered from an old board where all of the ICs had 1974 date codes. The chips used have date codes ranging from 1969 to 1976, The Sprague Atom cap (the orange one) is not only the same type as the one in the article pictures, it has the same data and batch code "USA7413H". The other two electrolytic caps are the right make and physical size (Mallory TT) but unfortunately had to be "restuffed". The ceramic caps and the resistors are all from parts assortments I've had since at least 1979 (except for three 0.1 pf caps). The lens is the same type, 8.5mm Elgeet Magnaview. The chassis is a bit of a "hack". It was originally a used TenTec JW-8. I could not find a new or even used JW-6. The only difference between the two is 2 inches of width. I trimmed the lid and had a new bottom made. Etc, etc... This project has been more scavenger hunt than technical I guess. I wanted to make it as "right" as possible. > I had actually wondered from years ago whether the > design ever did work reliably, or whether it might > be the sort of magazine project where 1 in 100 might > function, e.g. say, the memory chips were an iffy > proposition as image sensor. It worked pretty much as soon as I powered it on. The only problem I had was a "duh" moment. The CYCLOPS outputs 0 volts for pixel off and -12 volts for pixel on. The Z input on my scope wants 2 volts for intensity off and 0 volts for intensity normal. After finally RTFMing and a helpful email from Dr. Walker (the designer) an external power supply and a couple of resistors solved that problem. Bill S.
Re: Vintage Computer Forum
Hello Tor Lets see if I can go back to when I used to teach computers 101 and make it simple. 1. I never registered before. No not ever!!! 2. Somebody tried to use my email address No not me!!! 3. Searching does not work I have no idea what to search for. 3. I can call myself whatever I like and the result is the same. Yes every time !!! 4. I never get a password reset email because there never was a password to reset !! 5. Please go and delete anything related to rodsmallwoo...@btinternet.com and let me know when its done. I can start from there. Its just a bulletin board system like the one I ran from 1983 to 1990. Never assume the software is perfect and the user does not know what they are doing. All I wanted to do was to put up some information about the PDP-8 and PDP-11 replacement front panels I produce because somebody asked me to. Making six layer silk screened panels is a whole lot easier than this!! Rod Smallwod On 15/04/2016 03:44, Tor Arntsen wrote: On 14 April 2016 at 16:04, Rod Smallwood wrote: I have no idea what you are talking about. I have no user name no password or anything else to search with. Please repeat your message in understandable English Rod Smallwood Sorry. I simply assumed everyone would be familiar with the site: search format of e.g. google. As I didn't want to insert a direct link to your (or apparently yours) user page on a public forum I opted for how to find it instead. The search engines support a 'site:' keyword to limit searches to e.g. a single website. So, entering: site:www.vcfed.org/forum/ "Rod Smallwood" into the search field of google.com or most other search engines will search for your name not all over the net, but only on those pages limited by the 'site:' option. That'll lead you to the user page (and also some posts mentioning your name). But I see that others have posted the direct link anyway. As for your login problems, Erik or Evan K. (owner of the new home of the forum) should be able to help you out. CONFIDENTIALITY This e-mail and any attachment contain KONGSBERG information which may be proprietary, confidential or subject to export regulations, and is only meant for the intended recipient(s). Any disclosure, copying, distribution or use is prohibited, if not otherwise explicitly agreed with KONGSBERG. If received in error, please delete it immediately from your system and notify the sender properly.
Re: DEC Legacy UK show
OK That looks good I hope it happens. My exhibit will consist of brand new DEC products made in the last six months, Rod Smallwood On 14/04/2016 21:44, Mark Wickens wrote: The tentative plan is to run the next one in October. The date should be firmed up in the next month or so. Typically I run the event once every 18 months or so. Regards, Mark. On 14 April 2016 at 15:50, Rob Jarratt wrote: It is a very informal event, organised by Mark in his own time. He has family and work commitments like all of us, so I expect he has not been able to find the time. Regards Rob Sent from my Windows 10 phone From: Rod Smallwood Sent: 14 April 2016 15:09 To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts Subject: Re: DEC Legacy UK show So why did it say See you in 2016? On 14/04/2016 15:03, Dave Wade wrote: I thought Mark was only aiming for every two years. -Original Message- From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Rod Smallwood Sent: 14 April 2016 14:14 To: General Discussion: On-Topic Posts Subject: DEC Legacy UK show DEC Legacy UK show Where did it go ? 2015 then nothing Rod Smallwood
Re: Vintage Computer Forum
This thread started to flag out, but I am delighted that it has bloomed into a beautiful rose bouquet of classic computing. On Apr 15, 2016 8:16 AM, "Rod Smallwood" wrote: > Hello Tor > > Lets see if I can go back to when I used to teach computers 101 and make > it simple. > > 1. I never registered before. No not ever!!! > > 2. Somebody tried to use my email address No not me!!! > > 3. Searching does not work I have no idea what to search for. > > 3. I can call myself whatever I like and the result is the same. Yes > every time !!! > > 4. I never get a password reset email because there never was a password > to reset !! > > 5. Please go and delete anything related to rodsmallwoo...@btinternet.com > and > let me know when its done. I can start from there. > Its just a bulletin board system like the one I ran from 1983 to 1990. > Never assume the software is perfect and the user does not know what > they are doing. > All I wanted to do was to put up some information about the PDP-8 and > PDP-11 replacement front panels I >produce because somebody asked me to. Making six layer silk screened > panels is a whole lot easier than this!! > > Rod Smallwod > > On 15/04/2016 03:44, Tor Arntsen wrote: > >> On 14 April 2016 at 16:04, Rod Smallwood >> wrote: >> >> I have no idea what you are talking about. >>> I have no user name no password or anything else to search with. >>> Please repeat your message in understandable English >>> >>> Rod Smallwood >>> >>> Sorry. I simply assumed everyone would be familiar with the site: >> search format of e.g. google. >> As I didn't want to insert a direct link to your (or apparently yours) >> user page on a public forum I opted for how to find it instead. >> The search engines support a 'site:' keyword to limit searches to e.g. >> a single website. >> >> So, entering: >> >> site:www.vcfed.org/forum/ "Rod Smallwood" >> >> into the search field of google.com or most other search engines will >> search for your name not all over the net, but only on those pages >> limited by the 'site:' option. That'll lead you to the user page (and >> also some posts mentioning your name). >> >> But I see that others have posted the direct link anyway. >> >> As for your login problems, Erik or Evan K. (owner of the new home of >> the forum) should be able to help you out. >> >> CONFIDENTIALITY >> This e-mail and any attachment contain KONGSBERG information which may be >> proprietary, confidential or subject to export regulations, and is only >> meant >> for the intended recipient(s). Any disclosure, copying, distribution or >> use is >> prohibited, if not otherwise explicitly agreed with KONGSBERG. If >> received in >> error, please delete it immediately from your system and notify the sender >> properly. >> >> >
Re: Adapters for original SCSI drives to newer drives
On Apr 15, 2016 4:05 AM, "Pete Lancashire" wrote: > > What is a recommended adapter for replacing orig 50 pin SCSI disks with > some of the newer surplus SCSI drives ? > > Here's what I have, I've got a HP 9000/382 without its disk drive, it was > pulled to solve the (preconceived) notion of leaking sensitive software. > Sadly not only the drive but the carrier. > > BTW like to see what one of the original carriers looks like > My 9000/382 came with an original drive but it was dead. I think I replaced it with a 68-pin drive with a 68-pin male - 50-pin male adapter. I'll have to open it up and check. Fortunately I had the original drive carrier to reuse. It also came with a SCSI floppy drive. Don't think I ever got around to testing that.
Re: Servicing DEC-T11 based products with a Fluke pod?
Hi John, In the apparent absence of other T11-related suggestions, are you aware that there are a couple of T11-related manuals on Bitsavers, at least one of which has schematics? There's the T11 Users Manual, and the T11 Evaluation Module Users Guide: www.bitsavers.org/pdf/dec/pdp11/t11/ Nothing about Fluke pods, but maybe something more than you have at the moment? Best of luck John Wallace
PDP-8/A w/RL01, RX01 and VT55 on eBay
Here: http://www.ebay.com/itm/252356086401 The starting price doesn't seem wholly unreasonable for what's all there. Noel
DEC 338 Vector Graphics Display emulator.
My 338 emulator is working to the point where I can push objects around the screen with the 'light pen'. https://youtu.be/lydGoE-JbIg I am looking for software to test the emulation; I thought that the DECUS kaleidoscope program was available, but all I can find is catalog references. There is a ' 338INSTRUCTIONTEST.BIN' out there, but none of the BIN loaders I have tried recognize it. The PDP-8 versions of space war all use a different graphics system, so are not helpful. Anyone have any 338 diagnostic or applications stashed away somewhere? -- Charles
