Re: AIX for IBM system 370
Probably to the point where these can be experienced without fear mongering and it's of course dependent on local laws not just US https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abandonware. IBM has much better things to do than attack people messing around with an ancient nonviable operating system and Amdahl isn't even a thing anymore. On Mon, Feb 1, 2016 at 4:28 PM, Dave Wade wrote: > As I said on the Hercules list, its licenced materials so probably not > available anywhere, and IBM is pretty protective about its intellectual > property. > It wasn't widely used, and it wasn't popular where it was used. There was > also Amdahl UTS but again licenced. > > Dave > G4UGM > > > -Original Message- > > From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of devin > > davison > > Sent: 01 February 2016 23:11 > > To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts > > > > Subject: AIX for IBM system 370 > > > > I have been messing with the Hercules emulator, and have really been > > wanting to take a look at ibm AIX, and get a working install on an > emulated > > system 370. I have found no mention of install media or disk images of a > > working system for download online. > > > > Is there a good place to get the install media? > >
RE: AIX for IBM system 370
> > IBM's PS/2 was designed to remain software compatible with their PC/AT/XT > line of computers upon which the large PC clone market was built, but the > hardware was quite different. PS/2 had two BIOSes; one was named ABIOS > (Advanced BIOS) which provided a new protected mode interface and was > used by OS/2, and the other was named CBIOS (Compatible BIOS) which was > included in order for the PS/2 to be software compatible with the PC/AT/XT. > CBIOS was so compatible that it even included Cassette BASIC. > Well it would, otherwise IBM DOS Basic wouldn't work ... it checks for the Basic ROMS and won't run on a clone... Dave G4UGM
RE: AIX for IBM system 370
[IBM PC ROM BASIC] > Well it would, otherwise IBM DOS Basic wouldn't work .> .. it checks for the Basic ROMS and won't run on a clone... Not so much 'checks for them' as 'uses large numbers of routines from them'. The BASIC on an IBM PC-DOS disk is a much smaller file than the one on a normal MS-DOS disk as a result. -tony
Re: AIX for IBM system 370
On 02/ 2/16 01:11 AM, Guy Sotomayor wrote: Yea, all of the management was done through smit (I think that's the command). Management done thru smit - true, if you had the hardware to run the X11/CDE GUI. Otherwise, it was smitty (with emphasis on the tty) on green screen. Menu driven and everything was kept in a database. AIX, the only Unix with the equivalant of the ms windows registry, the ODC database. Heaven help you if that database becomes corrupted.
OS help needed please
Seems Windows 98 has got a few mentions on the list of late - must have just come into the "classic era". A while ago a good friend approached me as he wanted to get an old game up and running that he really likes - Recoil (might ring a bell with a few list folk) - wants the real experience, not the VM experience. I'd be happy to help him out anyway but he has thrown a few old machines at me from time to time rather than see them go to the tip so he definitely gets help. The game is quite particular and will only run on Win 98. I've resurrected a HP e-Vectra that I have (very nice little machine by the way) that has a serial on it for Win 98 SE but I really need the "actual" HP Recovery media for it as I'm having some dramas getting the right video and sound drivers for it. I've struck out at HP and have tried a few vendors that still list parts for this machine but no joy. Be most grateful if someone can help me out or point me somewhere please. Thank you!!! ++ Kevin Parker ++
Bull DPX/2 and B.O.S. help wanted.
Hi I'm trying to boot a Bull DPX/2 and got stuck waiting for NFS to do something, at least that is what I believe. Is there anyone on the list with B.O.S experience that could help me bring the sytem up under some kind of single user environment without network. I have a OS install kit with bootable floppies and I managed to get a prompt using the "boot_unix" floppy and following the manuals that I have. However, not even "ls" would work from this prompt, only "cat". (You are supposed to enter "os_install", but I don't want to mess up the existing installtion. /P
Mentec manuals
I was looking back at the discussion on what Mentec actually owned, back when it existed. The discussion on the list suggested that Mentec had a license but did not actually own the IP. It seems an odd arrangement that doesn't say much for the business skills of those making it, but I suppose it's posssible. I found that there are some RSTS manuals at www.computinghistory.co.uk with Mentec cover pages. Among other things, a free for the download RSTS 10.1 internals manual, over 600 pages of good stuff. The cover has a Mentec logo but no other ownership clues. I was hoping to see the copyright page to find out whose name appears there. Unfortunately, the scan omits the copyright page. Does anyone have any manuals from Mentec? If yes, does it say "Copyright ... Mentec"? Or "Copyright ... someone else"? paul
Re: AIX for IBM PS/2
>Good luck in finding media for AIX PS/2. As far as I know, it was never released on >CDROM and the last version I had was ~53 3.5? floppies (long gone now unfortunately) >and *only* worked on specific PS/2 hardware (no BIOS ? all drivers went straight >to the ?metal?). > >TTFN - Guy Nope, AIX 1.3 is readily available. It's over on http://ps-2.kev009.com if you know where to look along with a rather massive amount of documentation and (VERY HANDY) installation instructions. I can confirm that it will work on a stock IBM 8580 and you can get several different flavours of window system if you wanna roll that way. I put a video on Youtube a few years ago of a running machine when it was still rather badly configured. I briefly had it working on the model 55SX as well but because I was not labling the disks as I wrote them I went out-of-sequence somewhere and frustratingly couldn't find Disk 15. -John
Re: AIX for IBM PS/2
Il giorno mer, 03/02/2016 alle 09.11 -0800, John Ball ha scritto: > >Good luck in finding media for AIX PS/2. As far as I know, it was never > released on > >CDROM and the last version I had was ~53 3.5? floppies (long gone now > unfortunately) > >and *only* worked on specific PS/2 hardware (no BIOS ? all drivers went > straight > >to the ?metal?). > > > >TTFN - Guy > > Nope, AIX 1.3 is readily available. It's over on http://ps-2.kev009.com if > you know where to look along with a rather massive amount of documentation > and (VERY HANDY) installation instructions. I can confirm that it will work > on a stock IBM 8580 and you can get several different flavours of window > system if you wanna roll that way. I put a video on Youtube a few years ago > of a running machine when it was still rather badly configured. I briefly > had it working on the model 55SX as well but because I was not labling the > disks as I wrote them I went out-of-sequence somewhere and frustratingly > couldn't find Disk 15. > > > -John > This is a dual booting PS/2 (OS/2 and AiX), configured using kev009 floppy images and instructions... http://www.supervinx.com/OnlineMuseum/IBM/8595/AJF/
Re: Bull DPX/2 and B.O.S. help wanted.
Can you take some pictures of that system? Sounds interesting. I had a DPX/20 at one time which was basically an IBM RS/6000. On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 3:09 AM, Pontus Pihlgren wrote: > Hi > > I'm trying to boot a Bull DPX/2 and got stuck waiting for NFS to do > something, at least that is what I believe. > > Is there anyone on the list with B.O.S experience that could help me > bring the sytem up under some kind of single user environment without > network. > > I have a OS install kit with bootable floppies and I managed to get a > prompt using the "boot_unix" floppy and following the manuals that I > have. > > However, not even "ls" would work from this prompt, only "cat". (You are > supposed to enter "os_install", but I don't want to mess up the existing > installtion. > > > /P >
BC11A Cable ends
I just received the BC11A-T variant boards (the ribbon cables come out the “top”…yea not imaginative naming) this afternoon. I inserted a couple of the ribbon cable connectors on the board and everything looks great! When I have some time (probably in a couple of weeks) I’ll fire up my 11/40 (to make sure it’s still working after all of this time) and then re-cable it using cables with a pair of BC11A-T ends and some ribbon cable. I’ll run memory diagnostics on it for a while (I have 128KW of memory on it split between two racks, so this should be a good test) and see how it does vs with the “standard” BC11A cables. TTFN - Guy
.IMD diskette image file recovery
Is there a utility that will read .IMD diskette archive files and recover the data? I've found a wealth of BigBoard & BigBoard II data (and lots of other stuff too) on many different sites, all saved in .IMD format. Is it possible to read these files and recover the data instead of writing a floppy disk with DiskImage? Thanks, Jim Simpson
Re: Mentec manuals
>paul_kon...@dell.com wrote: I was looking back at the discussion on what Mentec actually owned, back when it existed. The discussion on the list suggested that Mentec had a license but did not actually own the IP. It seems an odd arrangement that doesn't say much for the business skills of those making it, but I suppose it's posssible. I found that there are some RSTS manuals at www.computinghistory.co.uk with Mentec cover pages. Among other things, a free for the download RSTS 10.1 internals manual, over 600 pages of good stuff. The cover has a Mentec logo but no other ownership clues. I was hoping to see the copyright page to find out whose name appears there. Unfortunately, the scan omits the copyright page. Does anyone have any manuals from Mentec? If yes, does it say "Copyright ... Mentec"? Or "Copyright ... someone else"? This MIGHT be your answer!!! I have a V05.07 RT-11 DOC set with over a dozen binders. Each binder has about 1000 pages for one or more manuals. All the binders have the DEC logo. All the manuals have the DEC copyright. The only place the "Compaq" logo appears is for the funny cover pages which are very thick paper with a window to allow the manual name to show through. Those very thick cover pages also used to have the DEC logo before Mentec was involved. Overall conclusion: The manuals are still from DEC - nothing has changed since replacing the name on the thick paper cover page without ANY supporting reference to what the "Compaq" logo refers to may be just the way that Mentec attempted to portray that Mentec now owned the manual copyrights. There is ONE exception. The Release Notes for V05.07 of RT-11 was prepared and produced by Mentec in 1998. This one manual does have a copyright notice from Mentec! So I would suggest that any manual prepared prior to 1994 which was approximately when Mentec became involved is purely from DEC and is still under copyright from DEC. And further, based on a notice from DEC concerning manuals which are out of print (naturally at this point all manuals from DEC are out of print), DEC gave permission (I don't have a copy of the actual notice - can someone please provide it) to copy all manuals. Jerome Fine
Re: .IMD diskette image file recovery
On Wed, 3 Feb 2016, Jim Simpson wrote: Is there a utility that will read .IMD diskette archive files and recover the data? I've found a wealth of BigBoard & BigBoard II data (and lots of other stuff too) on many different sites, all saved in .IMD format. Is it possible to read these files and recover the data instead of writing a floppy disk with DiskImage? You can use the IMDU program (part of the ImageDisk package) to convert those files to a vanilla sector image. From there, cpmtools is your friend for extracting the files. IIRC, the BB used the same format as the Xerox 820 machines and they'll probably already be a useable diskdef. If not, it's fairly straightforward to write one. --
Re: .IMD diskette image file recovery
On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 6:56 PM, Jim Simpson wrote: > Is there a utility that will read .IMD diskette archive files and recover > the data? I've found a wealth of BigBoard & BigBoard II data (and lots of > other stuff too) on many different sites, all saved in .IMD format. Is it > possible to read these files and recover the data instead of writing a > floppy disk with DiskImage? This tool is new to me but I'm looking forward to trying it out: http://simonowen.com/samdisk/formats/ It claims to be able to convert between many formats, including ImageDisk's IMD. Might be worth a try. j
ISO: VAX-11/750
So, I figure it's unlikely, but I've been jonesing for a "larger" VAX and I'd like to track down an 11/750 (or an 11/730). If anyone out there has one for sale trade (in any condition apart from "pile of slag"), let me know. I have DEC and various other gear for trade. Thanks as always! - Josh
Re: ISO: VAX-11/750
> On 04 Feb 2016, at 03:41 , Josh Dersch wrote: > > So, I figure it's unlikely, but I've been jonesing for a "larger" VAX and I'd > like to track down an 11/750 (or an 11/730). If anyone out there has one for > sale trade (in any condition apart from "pile of slag"), let me know. I have > DEC and various other gear for trade. > This may be of interest: http://www.vintage-computer.com/vcforum/showthread.php?51013-VAX-11-730-San-Francisco-Bay-Area
Re: ISO: VAX-11/750
On 2/3/16 7:58 PM, Raymond Wiker wrote: On 04 Feb 2016, at 03:41 , Josh Dersch wrote: So, I figure it's unlikely, but I've been jonesing for a "larger" VAX and I'd like to track down an 11/750 (or an 11/730). If anyone out there has one for sale trade (in any condition apart from "pile of slag"), let me know. I have DEC and various other gear for trade. This may be of interest: http://www.vintage-computer.com/vcforum/showthread.php?51013-VAX-11-730-San-Francisco-Bay-Area Thanks for the heads-up! I'll have to keep an eye on that. - Josh
Re: ISO: VAX-11/750
Date on the 730 notice is Aug 2009 - I suspect it is long gone by now. :-( Lee C. On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 8:22 PM, Josh Dersch wrote: > On 2/3/16 7:58 PM, Raymond Wiker wrote: > >> On 04 Feb 2016, at 03:41 , Josh Dersch wrote: >>> >>> So, I figure it's unlikely, but I've been jonesing for a "larger" VAX >>> and I'd like to track down an 11/750 (or an 11/730). If anyone out there >>> has one for sale trade (in any condition apart from "pile of slag"), let me >>> know. I have DEC and various other gear for trade. >>> >>> This may be of interest: >> http://www.vintage-computer.com/vcforum/showthread.php?51013-VAX-11-730-San-Francisco-Bay-Area >> >> >> > Thanks for the heads-up! I'll have to keep an eye on that. > > - Josh > > -- Lee Courtney +1-650-704-3934 cell
Re: OS help needed please
>From the dim hazy past.. Didn't HP (USA) maintain a public FTP site loaded with drivers, docs, etc. for obsolete / unsupported machines? Does anyone know if that resource is still around? At least your machine has a tag for Win98, so you know for a +fact+ that the software set you need is definitely out there, somewhere.. just a matter of finding it. And again, this isn't ancient history stuff.. support must have been current through at least 2000 and sometime thereafter. On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 3:38 AM, Kevin Parker wrote: > Seems Windows 98 has got a few mentions on the list of late - must have > just > come into the "classic era". > > A while ago a good friend approached me as he wanted to get an old game up > and running that he really likes - Recoil (might ring a bell with a few > list > folk) - wants the real experience, not the VM experience. > > I'd be happy to help him out anyway but he has thrown a few old machines at > me from time to time rather than see them go to the tip so he definitely > gets help. > > The game is quite particular and will only run on Win 98. I've resurrected > a > HP e-Vectra that I have (very nice little machine by the way) that has a > serial on it for Win 98 SE but I really need the "actual" HP Recovery > media > for it as I'm having some dramas getting the right video and sound drivers > for it. > > I've struck out at HP and have tried a few vendors that still list parts > for > this machine but no joy. > > Be most grateful if someone can help me out or point me somewhere please. > > Thank you!!! > > > > > ++ > Kevin Parker > > ++ > > > >
Re: OS help needed please
On 02/03/2016 04:13 PM, drlegendre . wrote: From the dim hazy past.. Didn't HP (USA) maintain a public FTP site loaded with drivers, docs, etc. for obsolete / unsupported machines? Does anyone know if that resource is still around? HP has gratuitously removed its driver archive from the web. At least I can't find anything. Probably due to the slice-and-dice of HP Enterprise from the (remaining) HP body, whatever's left of it. I was looking last week for the drivers for the Vectra VL600. There are still web pages that point to it, but th pages now say something to the effect of "so sorry, we don't do that anymore"/ And I don't really trust the third-party nastyware driver sites. I wish it were otherwise. I reiterate that the web is written in sand, just waiting for a good gust of wind to obliterate things. --Chuck
Re: Bull DPX/2 and B.O.S. help wanted.
Hello, On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 11:09 AM, Pontus Pihlgren wrote: > > I have a OS install kit with bootable floppies and I managed to get a > prompt using the "boot_unix" floppy and following the manuals that I > have. > > However, not even "ls" would work from this prompt, only "cat". (You are > supposed to enter "os_install", but I don't want to mess up the existing > installtion. > I don't have experience with Bull at all. However, I have some experience with other limited environments. Does "echo" work? If it does, you can try "echo *" as a (poor) substitute for "ls". Apologies if you already know this. HTH -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen
Re: ISO: VAX-11/750
> On Feb 3, 2016, at 20:37, Lee Courtney wrote: > > Date on the 730 notice is Aug 2009 - I suspect it is long gone by now. :-( Where do you see that? The listing states: "Status: Open 2/1/16 - 02/07/16 23:59:00" -- Mark J. Blair, NF6X http://www.nf6x.net/
Re: .IMD diskette image file recovery
I've been developing Python code for dealing with .IMD files off and on. It's not complete by any stretch of imagination, but if you're comfortable with Python then you might be able to use it to do what you want: https://github.com/NF6X/pyImageDisk At this time, extracting meaningful data would require more coding. Using the provided classes to pull out raw sector data would be easy, but it does not yet have any understanding of filesystems. I do play to add support for at least some filesystems in the future, but at this time the filesystem code is just some nonfunctional skeleton classes that I'm still working on. The provided command-line utility will at least reveal details about the low level format, such as sector sizes, interleave factors, use of different sector address marks (i.e., the use of DDAM marks on the directory track of some TRS-80 formats), or weird cylinder and head numbers in the headers. It'll also do hex dumps of the entire disk image or individual sectors. And it can change interleave factors and first sector after the index pulse if that might be helpful. -- Mark J. Blair, NF6X http://www.nf6x.net/
