Re: Panaplex display history

2015-05-31 Thread Jules Richardson

On 05/30/2015 05:00 PM, Brent Hilpert wrote:

If you look closely at the displays, esp. at an angle to the glass, you
can see the anode coating on the inside surface of the glass. If you see
a red/brownish non-uniform discoloration in that coating, or
discoloration around the ends of the segment bars, or some black spots
on the segment bars, that can be an indication of 'burning' or 'wear'.
Not sure how bad it has to get before it's a failure/problem, or how
long it might last once that begins to appear.


I'll give that a go. So far I've not noticed any like that, just the usual 
slightly-hazy appearance which every such display I've ever seen has.



There should be nice high-voltage drivers on those boards too.


Yes, I'm missing the wiring harnesses and the interface boards which hooked 
up to the pump mechanicals, but I've got the driver ICs for the displays, a 
complete PSU, a second PSU board, and one of the Z80-based logic boards.


If the wiring was obvious (it's probably not) then it's possible that I 
could hook everything up and that there may be some sort of test mode to 
drive all the digits at once, which would save desoldering failed 
displays/drivers for reuse. We'll see.



No, I never saw gas pumps with LED displays. As I recall, gas pumps
around here went from mechanical to Beckman GD displays sometime in the
mid-70s, then transitioned to LCD in the late-80s/early-90s. So pumps in
Britain never saw the gas-discharge display generation?


I don't remember them over in the UK, just mechanical displays being 
replaced by LCD.  Although Nixies were used over in the UK, these types of 
7-seg GD displays seemed much rarer generally.


I just noticed yesterday (now that I knew what to look for) that one of the 
little old gas stations in town has pumps of the same style as the ones 
which I think these boards came from, so I'll go take a look at them when I 
get a chance (and maybe ask who owns them - I don't know if a gas station 
typically buys their pumps outright, or if they're leased from another 
company along with a maintenance contract)



Speaking of old display technology, as someone who has been collecting
NIXIE and other-display-type equipment for many years, the NIXIE clock
craze of the past few years has been a bit of a surprise. And now that
crowd has discovered the other old display types such as the 7-segment
incandescent Numitron & minitron displays, which are quite rare. If you
want a display technology that was obsolete almost from the day it was
introduced that would be it.

If I ever get around to building a NIXIE clock, I was going to try
putting a motion detector in it to turn the display on/off for the sake
of longevity of the displays.


I'm very tempted to completely over-engineer a clock, just for the heck of 
it: using one of my Nixie-based voltmeters for the display portion, keeping 
it intact and sticking it in a small rack along with some sort of old 
computer to drive it (either directly via the rear-panel interface, or via 
a D/A convertor). The computer would have 'net access, so if I could 
find/compile/write an NTP client for it, it would be perfect.


It would be way too power-hungry to just leave running all the time, of 
course, but it would be kind of goofy to see. For an alarm, well I know 
someone who has a 6V police siren from an old cop car... ;-)


cheers

Jules


Re: Intel absolute object file format specification

2015-05-31 Thread Dave Mabry

Eric Smith wrote on 5/31/2015 12:40 AM:

Various Intel manual reference an "MCS 80/85 absolute object file
formats" manual, order number 9800183B. Does anyone have this?  Note
that this is a pure binary format, not the well-known "Intel Hex"
format.




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UA11 "Unibus Analyzer" Wanted

2015-05-31 Thread Paul Birkel
I didn't discover this wonderful project from Guy until *after* he had
moved.  And while he _may_ have a few boards left, they're still buried
somewhere in his amazing collection of "materiel" :->.

As I need to learn/work my way through various Unibus systems/scenarios ...
starting with self-education ... I'd very much like to acquire one of these
beasties.  Does anyone have a UA11 PCB, kit, or completed board, with which
they'd be willing to part?

A good home with a friendly family is guaranteed!

Many Thanks,

paul


Franklin Ace 1000

2015-05-31 Thread Electronics Plus
Looks kind of like Apple II, but bigger.  Hasd 1 external 5.25" diskette
drive.  Missing one keycap (the letter F).

Make an offer, I can ship it.  Totally untested J

 

Cindy Croxton

Electronics Plus

1613 Water Street

Kerrville, TX 78028

830-370-3239 cell

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Apple-1 doh!

2015-05-31 Thread Chris Elmquist

http://in.reuters.com/article/2015/05/31/usa-california-computer-idINL1N0YM0AX20150531

May 31 (Reuters) - A $100,000 check is waiting for a mystery woman who
donated a rare Apple 1 computer to a Silicon Valley recycling firm.

CleanBayArea in Milpitas, California, is trying to track down a woman
in her 60s who dropped off some electronic goods in April, when she was
cleaning out the garage after her husband died.

In one of the boxes, buried under worthless keyboards, personal
computer pieces and wires, was a 1976 Apple 1, a groundbreaking home
computer. Apple co-founder Steve Wozniak designed and hand-built the
computers and sold them for $666.66 each. Only a few dozen are known
still to exist.

[...]

-- 
Chris Elmquist



FFS Old HP Designjet Plotter stand - 24 inch

2015-05-31 Thread steve shumaker
Before it goes to recycling, figured I 'd offer it here in case someone 
out there needs one.  I have a plotter stand for the old HP Designjet 
units such as 650, 750 etc* in 24" width*.  Set includes all the metal 
parts including the wire frame paper basket and the little plastic clip 
that goes on the front edges of the paper tray. Mounting screws are long 
gone but they are standard thread screws (and still available from HP if 
you *really* want to give away lots of pennies).  Hardware is used but 
in good condition.  Free for shipping from 95006 in two medium to large 
boxes.   I will get a cost for anyone interested.


Steve




Re: PDP 11/44 for sale

2015-05-31 Thread Jerome H. Fine

>Rod wrote:


I have been on this list for a long time as a reader and wanted to give the
list a heads up on this system before 


doing anything else in case somebody wants it and can pick it up.

--

Cabinet 1:
Quickware Engineering QED-95 CPU replacement 
2- TU-58 tape drives


Cabinet 2:
BA11-KW
RX02 floppies

Cabinet 3:
2- RL02 disk drives
1-MDI 76-contains 1 Maxtor XT8760EM 760 Meg HD

Cabinet 4:
2-RL02 disk drives
1-MDI 276-contains two Maxtor XT8760EM 760 Meg HDs

I am asking US$3000.00 for the four cabinets. I can't guarantee anything but
it was turned off working fine.

The buyer would have the option of buying up to 18 RL02K-DC data carts for
US$25 each

Shipping is probably not an option they are about 300lbs + each

I am located in Kelowna BC Canada about 3hrs north of Spokane Washington..
Preference would have to go to someone that could come and get it.

Pictures are here

http://photoshare.shaw.ca/view/32499942349-1432868285-94725/0

Rod

Rdooley at shaw dot ca


My son has a trailer and could pick it up for me.

Is there any possibility of turning on the system and checking if it boots?
Which Operating System was being used before it was turned off?  How
long ago was the system run?  Where has it been stored?  Do you have any
terminals?  Should he bring one with him?  Would a VT100 be satisfactory?

Jerome Fine


RE: PDP 11/44 for sale

2015-05-31 Thread Rod


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Subject: Re: PDP 11/44 for sale

 >Rod wrote:

>I have been on this list for a long time as a reader and wanted to give 
>the list a heads up on this system before
>
>doing anything else in case somebody wants it and can pick it up.
> 
>--
>
>Cabinet 1:
>Quickware Engineering QED-95 CPU replacement
>2- TU-58 tape drives
>
>Cabinet 2:
>BA11-KW
>RX02 floppies
>
>Cabinet 3:
>2- RL02 disk drives
>1-MDI 76-contains 1 Maxtor XT8760EM 760 Meg HD
>
>Cabinet 4:
>2-RL02 disk drives
>1-MDI 276-contains two Maxtor XT8760EM 760 Meg HDs
>
>I am asking US$3000.00 for the four cabinets. I can't guarantee 
>anything but it was turned off working fine.
>
>The buyer would have the option of buying up to 18 RL02K-DC data carts 
>for
>US$25 each
>
>Shipping is probably not an option they are about 300lbs + each
>
>I am located in Kelowna BC Canada about 3hrs north of Spokane Washington..
>Preference would have to go to someone that could come and get it.
>
>Pictures are here
>
>http://photoshare.shaw.ca/view/32499942349-1432868285-94725/0
>
>Rod
>
>Rdooley at shaw dot ca
>
My son has a trailer and could pick it up for me.

Is there any possibility of turning on the system and checking if it boots?
Which Operating System was being used before it was turned off?  How long
ago was the system run?  Where has it been stored?  Do you have any
terminals?  Should he bring one with him?  Would a VT100 be satisfactory?


Jerome Fine



Hi Jerome

The system was running RSX11M+, and it was used as an RMCS. It had about 6
terminals on it and was gathering data from about 10 sites.
I was shut down in 2000 and I have had it since then. It has been in my
garage the whole time. There have been no rodents or anything.
I used the RMCS but didn't do any of the work on the system. As far as I
know the cables were unplugged and put into each cabinet.
One of the MDI disks was taken from cabinet 3 by someone I don't know
whether it was a MDI 76 or 276. I don't have any terminals 
That I would be sure works as I never tried to get it going again.
It also had two RK07 attached to it that I couldn't get.

I do have some spare cards and the original cpu cards that would go with it.

It would be a bit of a project to start it up I guess, I don't know which
disk it boots off, hopefully not the that's missing.

Rod