Re: [ccp4bb] brute force molecular replacement

2009-01-25 Thread Nicholas M Glykos
Dear Xie,

> What are the other brute force programs for molecular replacement out 
> there?

Qs (available via http://www.mbg.duth.gr/~glykos/Qs.html) can be as brutal 
with your CPU(s) as they can take.

Nicholas

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[ccp4bb] more on lattice translocation defects

2009-01-25 Thread Laurie Betts
May I inquire if someone has a copy of Zhu et. al. (Acta Cryst. D. 2008
D64, 843-850) that might be posted somewhere free?  I don't have
subscription to Acta Cryst D and this one is possibly a problem I have in
a structure and I don't understand what it means exactly.  Or if someone
can give a definition in terms that is simple (for my simple mind).

Thanks

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[ccp4bb] Problem during refinement

2009-01-25 Thread anil kumar
Dear All,
   
  I am refining a structure (resolution 2.4A) using Refmac and am getting a lot 
of cis-peptides (about 16 for prolines as well as other amino acids). There are 
some side chain swaps as well leading to high differences Rfactor: 20.6 and 
Rfree: 27.6. Although I tried to convert them to trans form and then tried to 
refine but it shows them again as cis peptides only. 
  In order to rectify the second problem of side chain swaps I have tried to 
mutate back the residues followed by refinements but it is also of no use.
   
  I need to know if anyone of you have ever encountered these kind of problems. 
I will be greatly helped by your suggestions in this regard.  
   
  Best regards,
   
  Anil Kumar (Graduate Student)

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Re: [ccp4bb] Problem during refinement

2009-01-25 Thread Garib Murshudov
IT could be miscommunication between refmac and coot. Try to remove  
cispep lines from your pdb and refine again. Then it may work. After  
model building info about cispep and/or ssbridge should be removed  
from the pdb file (unless you are confident about them)


regards
Garib

On 25 Jan 2009, at 19:32, anil kumar wrote:


Dear All,

I am refining a structure (resolution 2.4A) using Refmac and am  
getting a lot of cis-peptides (about 16 for prolines as well as  
other amino acids). There are some side chain swaps as well leading  
to high differences Rfactor: 20.6 and Rfree: 27.6. Although I tried  
to convert them to trans form and then tried to refine but it shows  
them again as cis peptides only.
In order to rectify the second problem of side chain swaps I have  
tried to mutate back the residues followed by refinements but it is  
also of no use.


I need to know if anyone of you have ever encountered these kind of  
problems. I will be greatly helped by your suggestions in this regard.


Best regards,

Anil Kumar (Graduate Student)
-
School of Biological Sciences
Division of Structural & Computational Biology
Nanyang Technological University, 60 Nanyang Drive
Singapore 639798.
anil0...@ntu.edu.sg
Tel:   +65-6316-2926


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Re: [ccp4bb] cbuccanner.exam failed with libFFTW generated by Intel MKL

2009-01-25 Thread Nobuo OKAZAKI
Dear Kevin,

Thanks for your advice.
I compared cpirate.exam log between pre-built and intel-FFT linked. the
log values seems distinctly different.

Maps with pre-build MLPHARE and intel-FFT don't seem so different. So, I
tried the comparison using phase which estimated by pre-build
mlphare.exam.
However, cpirate.exam's logs are different. As a result, pre-build
cbuccarneer.exam is successful and intel-FFT is failed.

So intel-FFT library may act differently in this case. For reference,
the logs are attached.

--- the cpirate.exam logs by pre-built vs intel-FFT
Automatic content fitting:
 Skew by: -0.21875,0 (dense, ordered)  0.96875,0.875 (dense, ordered)

Unbiased results from initial cycle:
 R-factor : 0.790483   0.195488
 Free R-factor: 0.845515   1.15188
 E-correl : 0.504196   0.991128
 Free E-correl: 0.195072   0.2489
 LgLkGain : 0.331314   2.8692
 Free LgLkGain: 0.30185-inf

Biased results from cycle 2:
 Biased R-factor : 0.6762870.140585
 Biased Free R-factor: 0   0
 Biased E-correl : 0.6507680.988193
 Biased Free E-correl: 0   0
 Biased LgLkGain : 0.526848nan
 Biased Free LgLkGain: 0   0

Biased results from cycle 3:
 Biased R-factor : 0.60964 0.191351
 Biased Free R-factor: 0   0
 Biased E-correl : 0.7269250.977604
 Biased Free E-correl: 0   0
 Biased LgLkGain : 0.694419nan
 Biased Free LgLkGain: 0   0

Thanks,
Nobuo OKAZAKI

Kevin Cowtan wrote:
> OK, I had a closer look at this.
> 
> Buccaneer is failing because it can't grow a single residue of chain 
> from the seed positions. This can only happen if the map is total garbage.
> 
> So the first thing to do is check the phases which are going into 
> buccaneer in both the gcc and intel cases. Calculate a map from each 
> set, and make sure they are both reasonably similar and interpretable 
> (they should be for the example data).
> 
> If the two maps, differ, then the problem is in the upstream program.
> 
> If they don't, then the most likely cause is that buccaneer is not 
> calculating the map correctly. Add 'mapout buc.map' to the buccaneer 
> command file, and rerun both the gcc and intel versions. If the 
> buccaneer map from the intel version is corrupted, then the problem is 
> most likely the linking of the fft library in the intel case.


Re: [ccp4bb] cbuccanner.exam failed with libFFTW generated by Intel MKL

2009-01-25 Thread Nobuo OKAZAKI
I have checked CLIPPER with lib/clipper/examples/test.csh and compared
logs between gcc and intel-FFT.
"diff" output about 1000 different lines.

These are few lines of output.
(intel-FFT)
< HKL = (   2,   2,   0)  198  306:8.25  306: 198  306
< HKL = (   2,   2,   1)  199  153:8.29  153: 199  153
< HKL = (   2,   2,   2)  200  360:8.33  360: 200  360

(gcc)
> HKL = (   2,   2,   0)  198  306: 198  306: 198  306
> HKL = (   2,   2,   1)  199  153: 199  153: 199  153
> HKL = (   2,   2,   2)  200  360: 200  360: 200  360

It suggested CLIPPER with Intel-FFT is not all right.

Thanks,
Nobuo OKAZAKI