Re: [ccp4bb] ARP/wARP 7.0 error

2007-07-24 Thread Anastassis Perrakis

Hi there -

That error is indeed something totally misleading from python.
Somehow, the error messages get hard-coded at compilation time and  
list the directories

that compilation took place at (in this case Gerrit's laptop).
We will try and suppress this message since its totally misleading.

The error message is in the parsing of the Refmac log file
(Garib ... we should indeed do the XML one of these days !)
I think we have seen it before, but if you could send us a gzip of  
the whole run dir,
or at least the last refmac log file, we will be able to tell you  
exactly.


In a similar case, getting the newest refmac5 from York solved the  
problem.


Since I can almost guarantee that any such anomalies are genuine bugs  
in ARP/wARP 7.0
(and especially in the 'new' flex-warp module) it might be best to  
email directly the authors,

so we can deal with it asap ...
(I am on ccp4bb detox, I read it once a day to avoid shouting to too  
many people)



Tassos


On Jul 23, 2007, at 16:24, Craig McElroy wrote:


Hi all,
I am trying to use the new ARP/wARP to build a model starting from a
partially refined structure for the phases using the "Use pdb file  
as it is"
option. When I run the program it quits after/during the first  
REFMAC cycle

with the following message:


ERROR ('IndexError', ('list index out of range',), ['  File
"/Users/gerrit/CProg/ARP_svn/pyWARP/CArc.py", line 78, in
checkAndProcess\n', '  File
"/Users/gerrit/CProg/ARP_svn/pyWARP/CRefmacController.py", line 43, in
checkAndProcess\n', '  File
"/Users/gerrit/CProg/ARP_svn/pyWARP/CRefmacController.py", line  
107, in

_parse\n'])
-- 


ERROR => Ending JOB
-- 



I'm relatively sure I have everything installed properly, but it  
seems the
program is trying to reference scripts that do not exist (i.e.  
there is no

/Users/gerrit on my system and therefore no python scripts in
/Users/gerrit/CProg/ARP_svn/pyWARP/).






Any help that you could provide would
be appreciated. Thanks in advance.
Craig

--
Craig McElroy, Ph.D.
Department of Molecular and Cellular Biochemistry
Ohio State University
483 Hamilton Hall
1645 Neil Ave.
Columbus, OH 43210
(614) 688-8630


[ccp4bb] 21st Rhine-Knee Regiomeeting 2007

2007-07-24 Thread Peer Mittl
Registration for the 21st Rhine-Knee Regiomeeting 2007 in Hölstein (CH) 
is open until August 31th, 2007 under 
http://www.bioc.uzh.ch/index.php?204&L=1 .


Best regards,
Peer Mittl


Re: [ccp4bb] CCP4 Wiki

2007-07-24 Thread Kevin Cowtan
Yes, that is our intention. CCP4 would probably be at the third level of 
 a hierarchy including:


Macromolecular crystallographic techniques
  Structure solution, analysis and visualisation software
The CCP4 suite

So there would be room for other software packages at the same level as 
CCP4, and things like purification and crystallisation off of the top level.


James Stroud wrote:
Would a "CCP4 wiki" be different from a general crystallography wiki? Would it 
reflect, for instance, the breadth of topics on the CCP4BB?



On Monday 23 July 2007 09:57, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Contributions from volunteers to establish and maintain the CCP4 wiki will
be definitely appreciated.





Re: [ccp4bb] resolution and solvent accessible surface area

2007-07-24 Thread Curious George
Hi Hyunchul Kim,

the paper that Miguel quotes concludes that the ASA doesn't show any 
correlation with resolution, but i would like to respectfully disagree. In the 
paper, the authors limit themselves to structures determined at a resolution no 
lower than 2.3 A. Many complex structures though are determined at much lower 
resolution. Especially below 3 Angstrom, many side chains are less well 
defined, and tend to fold onto the main chain. 

As a result, one is often forced to build the interface by hand, even though 
hydrogen bonds at that resolution are hard to determine.

So I would take any (S)ASA calculation (per residue) on a structure at a 
resolution lower than 3 A with a grain of biodegradable salt. In fact, any 
structure that misses the first solvation shell around the protein is suspect.

Cheers,

Rob Meijers
Synchrotron Soleil

Hyunchul Kim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hello Miguel,

Thank you for your reply.
It's related to the total SASA of a  protein structure but not that of
per residue. However, it still give me a hint. :)

Best,

Hyunchul Kim

On Tue, 2007-07-24 at 08:12 +0200, Miguel Ortiz-Lombardía wrote:
> Hello Hyunchul Kim,
> 
> I found this paper very interesting:
> 
> Novotny M, Seibert M, Kleywegt GJ.
> On the precision of calculated solvent-accessible surface areas.
> Acta Crystallogr D Biol Crystallogr. 2007 Feb;63(Pt 2):270-4. Epub
> 2007 Jan 16. 
> PMID: 17242521 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
> 
> http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?Db=PubMed&Cmd=ShowDetailView&TermToSearch=17242521&ordinalpos=1&itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum
> 
> It discusses most of the topics you mentioned. 
> There are many programs around to do that type of calculations. I tend
> to use naccess.
> 
> Best,
> 
> 
> 
> Miguel
> 
> 
> 2007/7/24, Hyunchul Kim :
> I am interested in the SASA per residue.
> 
> On Tue, 2007-07-24 at 14:43 +0900, Hyunchul Kim wrote: 
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Resolution doesn't matter when solvent accessible surface
> area(SASA) is
> > calculated?
> >
> > If resolution is poor, I think that the SASA is not likely
> to be
> > reliable. Then, is there any resolution cut-off for SASA
> calculation? 
> >
> > Also, when you calculate SASA, do you include NMR data, too?
> >
> > Any comments are welcome :)
> >
> > Thank you in advance.
> >
> > Best,
> > Hyunchul Kim
> >
> 
> 
> 
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> Je pousse en liberté
> Dans les jardins mal fréquentés!
> 
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[ccp4bb] mosflm error

2007-07-24 Thread bmbsbc
Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 11:49:35 +0100
From: Stephen Brian Carr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: ccp4bb@jiscmail.ac.uk
Subject: mosflm error
Message-ID: 
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII


Dear ccp4bb-ers,

I have started encountering an error in mosflm 
(version 6.2.6 with ccp4 6.0.2), after integration ipmosflm 
is crashing with the error message

 Open failed: Unit:  10, File: COORDS (logical: COORDS)

Last system error message: Success
 ipmosflm:   Open failed: File: COORDS
 ipmosflm:   Open failed: File: COORDS
 
I'm sure there is a simple fix so does anybody know how to prevent this 
from happening.  The message occurs with any data set I have tried to 
integrate today (even those which I have processed previously with no 
problems).

Thanks very much,

Steve

~~~
Dr Stephen Carr
Astbury Centre for Structural Molecular Biology
University of Leeds
Leeds
LS2 9JT 


Re: [ccp4bb] mosflm error

2007-07-24 Thread Remacle, F (Francois)
Hi,

>From the error message if seems that the programs is trying to read in a
file that should be specified with the COORDS keywords. It is trying
COORDS as a filename, which is usually a sign that the filename itself
is missing. When writing out a file that should not be too much of a
problem as the file will simply be called as the keyword but when
reading in it would fail.

Hope this can help 

-Original Message-
From: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 24 July 2007 11:50
To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
Subject: [ccp4bb] mosflm error

Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 11:49:35 +0100
From: Stephen Brian Carr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: ccp4bb@jiscmail.ac.uk
Subject: mosflm error
Message-ID: 
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII


Dear ccp4bb-ers,

I have started encountering an error in mosflm (version 6.2.6 with ccp4
6.0.2), after integration ipmosflm is crashing with the error message

 Open failed: Unit:  10, File: COORDS (logical: COORDS) 
Last system error message: Success
 ipmosflm:   Open failed: File: COORDS
 ipmosflm:   Open failed: File: COORDS
 
I'm sure there is a simple fix so does anybody know how to prevent this
from happening.  The message occurs with any data set I have tried to
integrate today (even those which I have processed previously with no
problems).

Thanks very much,

Steve

~~~
Dr Stephen Carr
Astbury Centre for Structural Molecular Biology University of Leeds
Leeds
LS2 9JT 


[ccp4bb] mosflm error follow up

2007-07-24 Thread Stephen Brian Carr
Thanks for the replies so far.

Here is some more information I should have included last time.  
The COORDS file is being written, but mosflm seems unable to 
read it.  The simple things like the file permissions are all correct 
and there is plenty of free space on the disk.

Thanks again 

Steve

~~~
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Astbury Centre for Structural Molecular Biology
University of Leeds
Leeds
LS2 9JT


Re: [ccp4bb] resolution and solvent accessible surface area

2007-07-24 Thread Marian Novotny

Hi Rob, Hyunchul Kim and Miguel,

I was just about to write a comment on this, but Rob was quicker..

Rob is right, our dataset of hen egg-white lysozymes does not contain 
any structures with resolution lower than 2.3 Aone may say that 
these are all relatively high-resolution structures, therefore we can 
not claim there is no correlation between ASA and resolution in general. 
Nevertheless, we cannot see any correlation in our (limited) dataset.


On the other hand, we  also saw that two structures of the same protein 
differed by hundreds of sq A in their ASA just because a few residues 
could not be seen in one of these two structures.
The conclusion of our paper was identical with Rob's last paragraph 
(although we forget to use the word "biodegradable"), and it is even 
more true when one look at individual residues.


I think that The EDS server can provide some hints concerning the 
reliability of ASA values for individual residues...it allows to check 
how well are individual residues supported by experimental data, so if a 
deposited residue conformation is well supported by its electron density 
map, then its ASA can be quite reliable regardless resolution of a whole 
structure. However, proteins are dynamic and therefore ASA for 
individual residues will fluctuate substantially during time (regardless 
of resolution).


best regards,


--marian


Marian Novotny
Department of Animal Physiology and Developmental Biology
Faculty of Natural Sciences
Charles University in Prague
Vinicna 7
Praha 2
128 43
Czech Republic

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[ccp4bb] low b factors

2007-07-24 Thread German Gomez
I am working with a small protein in a relatively high
space group p6322 and have good data to a modest 2.5 A
resolution.  During the first rounds of restrained
refinement however the B factors drop to an average of
15 and as low as 2 A^3.  This has the effect of
producing large amounts of negative density in the
voids of the structure.  I have tried artificially
rasing the   b factors and setting a higher low cutoff
but nothing seems to help.  I have also chosen each of
the b models of refinement (anisotropic, overall,
etc.) but to no avail.  

Any suggestions?

German Gomez


   
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[ccp4bb] Help with coordinate file

2007-07-24 Thread Mona N. Rahman
Hello all,

I have a coordinate file of an energy minimized molecule which was
apparently done using Chem 3D Pro.  Does anyone know how I can convert
this to a pdb file?

Thank you
Mona Rahman


-- 
Mona N. Rahman, Ph.D.
Post-doctoral Fellow
Botterell Hall, Room 634
Department of Biochemistry
Queen's University
Kingston, ON, K7L 3N6
Tel:  613-533-6392
E-mail:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Re: [ccp4bb] Help with coordinate file

2007-07-24 Thread Miguel Ortiz-Lombardía

Hi Mona,

No idea what format may be that file, but if you find it out, most often in
these cases openbabel (http://openbabel.sourceforge.net/wiki/Main_Page) is
your friend.


M.

2007/7/24, Mona N. Rahman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:


Hello all,

I have a coordinate file of an energy minimized molecule which was
apparently done using Chem 3D Pro.  Does anyone know how I can convert
this to a pdb file?

Thank you
Mona Rahman


--
Mona N. Rahman, Ph.D.
Post-doctoral Fellow
Botterell Hall, Room 634
Department of Biochemistry
Queen's University
Kingston, ON, K7L 3N6
Tel:  613-533-6392
E-mail:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]





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Re: [ccp4bb] ARP/wARP 7.0 error

2007-07-24 Thread Craig McElroy

Thank you for the help. It seems as if the new Refmac5 has done the trick.
Thanks
Craig

Craig McElroy, Ph.D.
Department of Molecular and Cellular Biochemistry
Ohio State University
483 Hamilton Hall
1645 Neil Ave.
Columbus, OH 43210
(614) 688-8630



Anastassis Perrakis wrote:

Hi there -

That error is indeed something totally misleading from python.
Somehow, the error messages get hard-coded at compilation time and 
list the directories

that compilation took place at (in this case Gerrit's laptop).
We will try and suppress this message since its totally misleading.

The error message is in the parsing of the Refmac log file
(Garib ... we should indeed do the XML one of these days !)
I think we have seen it before, but if you could send us a gzip of the 
whole run dir,
or at least the last refmac log file, we will be able to tell you 
exactly.


In a similar case, getting the newest refmac5 from York solved the 
problem.


Since I can almost guarantee that any such anomalies are genuine bugs 
in ARP/wARP 7.0
(and especially in the 'new' flex-warp module) it might be best to 
email directly the authors,

so we can deal with it asap ...
(I am on ccp4bb detox, I read it once a day to avoid shouting to too 
many people)



Tassos


On Jul 23, 2007, at 16:24, Craig McElroy wrote:


Hi all,
I am trying to use the new ARP/wARP to build a model starting from a
partially refined structure for the phases using the "Use pdb file as 
it is"
option. When I run the program it quits after/during the first REFMAC 
cycle

with the following message:


ERROR ('IndexError', ('list index out of range',), ['  File
"/Users/gerrit/CProg/ARP_svn/pyWARP/CArc.py", line 78, in
checkAndProcess\n', '  File
"/Users/gerrit/CProg/ARP_svn/pyWARP/CRefmacController.py", line 43, in
checkAndProcess\n', '  File
"/Users/gerrit/CProg/ARP_svn/pyWARP/CRefmacController.py", line 107, in
_parse\n'])
-- 


ERROR => Ending JOB
-- 



I'm relatively sure I have everything installed properly, but it 
seems the
program is trying to reference scripts that do not exist (i.e. there 
is no

/Users/gerrit on my system and therefore no python scripts in
/Users/gerrit/CProg/ARP_svn/pyWARP/).






Any help that you could provide would
be appreciated. Thanks in advance.
Craig

--Craig McElroy, Ph.D.
Department of Molecular and Cellular Biochemistry
Ohio State University
483 Hamilton Hall
1645 Neil Ave.
Columbus, OH 43210
(614) 688-8630




Re: [ccp4bb] Help with coordinate file

2007-07-24 Thread artis
Hello Mona,
I am guessing you have the atom name,number and coordinates in your file.
I did something like that and Openbabel will convert it to the pdb file
you desire but as far as I know, you will have to assign a residue name to
the atom yourself. I did this by superimposition on the original file and
manually naming the atoms in a text editor.
If all else fails, that is.
Arti
> Hello all,
>
> I have a coordinate file of an energy minimized molecule which was
> apparently done using Chem 3D Pro.  Does anyone know how I can convert
> this to a pdb file?
>
> Thank you
> Mona Rahman
>
>
> --
> Mona N. Rahman, Ph.D.
> Post-doctoral Fellow
> Botterell Hall, Room 634
> Department of Biochemistry
> Queen's University
> Kingston, ON, K7L 3N6
> Tel:  613-533-6392
> E-mail:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>


Arti S. Pandey
Graduate Student
Chemistry and Biochemistry
Montana State University
Bozeman,MT 59717


Re: [ccp4bb] Help with coordinate file

2007-07-24 Thread Mona N. Rahman
Thanks for the advice everyone.  I downloaded the graphic interface for
Open Babel but for some reason it's not converting my file.  I'll play
around more with this later but any hints would be greatly appreciated.


On Tue, July 24, 2007 09:50, Seth Horne wrote:
> Try Open Babel at http://openbabel.sourceforge.net/wiki/Main_Page
>
> Regards,
> Seth
>
> 
> W. Seth Horne, Ph.D.
> Department of Chemistry
> University of Wisconsin
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
> Mona N. Rahman
> Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2007 8:32 AM
> To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
> Subject: [ccp4bb] Help with coordinate file
>
> Hello all,
>
> I have a coordinate file of an energy minimized molecule which was
> apparently done using Chem 3D Pro.  Does anyone know how I can convert
> this to a pdb file?
>
> Thank you
> Mona Rahman
>
>
> --
> Mona N. Rahman, Ph.D.
> Post-doctoral Fellow
> Botterell Hall, Room 634
> Department of Biochemistry
> Queen's University
> Kingston, ON, K7L 3N6
> Tel:  613-533-6392
> E-mail:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>


-- 
Mona N. Rahman, Ph.D.
Post-doctoral Fellow
Botterell Hall, Room 634
Department of Biochemistry
Queen's University
Kingston, ON, K7L 3N6
Tel:  613-533-6392
E-mail:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]


[ccp4bb] Low B factors Resolved

2007-07-24 Thread German Gomez
First, Thank you all for the help and suggestions, it
truly resolved the issue.

First I reset the B factors to something close to the
Wilson B average (53).   Then making sure the
B-solvent contribution flag was set and refining
isotropic b-factor I reran the job.  The B-factors now
are reasonable and the negative density issues have
been resolved.  Using Babinet instead of simple
scaling also brought down the R and Rfree though it
did make the maps a little less defined and increased
the B factors to a higher average B.  Much more
refining to do but I'm in a much better position now.
Not to mention that my maps are a lot more
interpretable.

Thanks 


   

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Re: [ccp4bb] Help with coordinate file

2007-07-24 Thread Edward Berry

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hello Mona,
I am guessing you have the atom name,number and coordinates in your file.
I did something like that and Openbabel will convert it to the pdb file
you desire but as far as I know, you will have to assign a residue name to
the atom yourself. I did this by superimposition on the original file and
manually naming the atoms in a text editor.


As has been pointed out on this BBS before, the text editor "nedit"
is very good for this because of the ability to cut and paste columns,
i.e rectangular selections of text. Hold down the control key and
drag from upper right to lower left corner (or v.v.) to select
the column with residue names, copy, then select the same
area in the defective file and paste. (Make sure the two
selections have the same number of residues and atoms
in each residue)

Get nedit (if you don't have it) from nedit.org
or "yum install nedit"


Re: [ccp4bb] FPLC vs Duo Flow

2007-07-24 Thread Filip Van Petegem

Thanks to all those who responded.  Here is a summary of the
responses.  Overall,
there are mixed feelings, but there is a clear bias towards Akta, with a
better service and durability – individual experiences with service might be
due to geographical distributions?

Filip



___

Original question:



Hi,



I believe this subject has been touched briefly before, but does anyone have
any strong feelings before or against using an Akta FPLC/purifier versus a
Biorad Duo Flow?  The Biorad Duo instruments are significantly cheaper; are
they however also 'as good' as GE Healthcare? I'm especially interested in
comments from people who have used both instruments before.



Cheers



Filip

___

Hi Filip,

I use both Biologic Duo Flow and Akta Explorer extensively. In my opinion
the Biorad equipment is as good and realiable as the Akta for most routine
uses. I generally prefer the Akta Explorer over the Biorad system but its
mostly a personal preference. In my opinion, the following are the relative
advantages of one system over the other.

Advantages of Biorad:
1. It is easy to use and maintain/clean.
2. The software interface is straight forward and user firendly. The Akta
software appears to deter new users!
3. The Biorad system is highly modular. So, upgrading the equipment or
adding more capabilities is easy and cheap.
4. The system pressure is far lower than Akta at a particular flow rate.

Advantages of Akta:
1. The Akta software is far superior in terms of capability (display/data
analysis), although not as user friendly in terms of creating a program.
2. The fraction collectors are more robust and reliable, although the Biorad
fraction collector seems to have improved.
3. The Akta system is less sensitive to air in the buffer and runs perfectly
fine without degassing buffers. It is fairly easy to get air-trapped in the
Biorad pump.

I would not hesitate to chose the Duo Flow over the basic Akta FPLC if cost
is a major concern. Hope this helps,

-Anirban
-



Dear Filip,



I would recommend getting a demo from the manufacturer. It's hard to decide
based on other people's recommendations.  Having said this I also must add
that I am an avid fan of the AKTA systems, although their prices are high.
Still, a Purifier can be obtained for around 30K, which is comparable with
the 20K we have heard for the DuoFlow system with similar capacity.



The DuoFlow is overall cheaper, however it also has the distinctly 80-ies
feeling of a box-modular system. The fancy names of the components don't
help either – for example, why does there have to be a special valve kit to
double the performance of the standard 10 and 40 ml/min pumps? Everything
has to be configured piece-by-piece and the software is somewhat clumsy, as
compared to the sleek Unicow (Unicorn) that runs the AKTA systems.



The advantages of the system are essentially the same as its disadvantages –
namely that you can configure DuoFlow to be as simple or as complicated as
you wish, and more importantly if money is tight – theoretically, additional
pieces can be bought later as the money situation improves. The slight
problem with this is that you get a system where individual components are
ageing at different rates.



So, as I said – ask the rep to bring you a system for a few days – they're
pretty small so it shouldn't be a serious problem for them, especially if
you can hint on trying to decide on it versus AKTA, or on the potential to
buy more than one J



Good luck,



Artem



Actually I have to take back the price comment. I cannot find a way to build
something for less than 33-35K that'd be comparable to the 34K for AKTA
Purifier. Perhaps they quote you different prices, though.



Artem

-

Hi Filip,



The support for the Akta machines since they have been bought by GE has been
absolutely terrible in our experience.  Their engineers know less about the
machines than we do and that was not the case before they became part of the
giant GE corporation.  The Akta that we purchased had defective pumps and it
took 6 months for them to acknowledge the problem and they agreed to replace
them only when the Howard Hughes purchasing office threatened to take action
against the company.



So, the bottom line is the machines are well engineered thanks to the great
design of the old Amersham engineers, but GE does not care about this market
(chump change compared to the other stuff they sell). So as a result the
price is high and the service has been terrible in our experience.  Just my
two cents.



Good luck.



Antonina



Hi,

In our lab we have background on both instruments, 2 Biorad and 2
Aktas. We got problems on both, minor ones on Aktas, major ones on
Biorads, with expensive fixing on Aktas and cheaper fixings on
Biorads, but efficient fixing on Aktas and unsolved problem

[ccp4bb] reagarding CNS domain definitons

2007-07-24 Thread krish

Hello to all,

   I'm a bit new to CNS. I am using CNS for rigid body
refinement but i don't know how to define domains in the input file and also
for annealated simulations which one I have to chose. I mean either
"cartesian " or "torsion" molecular dynamics.

Thanx in advance for your kind help.


Krishna Ch
PhD Student
Hannover Medical School
Hannover


[ccp4bb] phenix mtz to ccp4 mtz conversion

2007-07-24 Thread John Bruning
Hi,

I have an mtz file from Phenix I am trying to convert for use in Refmac.  The 
labels are currently:

H
K
L
I-obs
SIGI-obs
R-free-flags

I can't seem to get it to work.  I am using Import, it runs, spits out a new 
mtz, and then Refmac complains about the labels.  What is the easiest way (ie 
what program in ccp4 and usig what parameters).

Thanks,
John Bruning


Re: [ccp4bb] phenix mtz to ccp4 mtz conversion

2007-07-24 Thread Peter Zwart

Use truncate to convert I-obs to F-obs. No format change is needed.


Peter


John Bruning wrote:


Hi,

I have an mtz file from Phenix I am trying to convert for use in 
Refmac.  The labels are currently:


H
K
L
I-obs
SIGI-obs
R-free-flags

I can't seem to get it to work.  I am using Import, it runs, spits out 
a new mtz, and then Refmac complains about the labels.  What is the 
easiest way (ie what program in ccp4 and usig what parameters).


Thanks,
John Bruning



Re: [ccp4bb] reagarding CNS domain definitons

2007-07-24 Thread Anastassis Perrakis
Since I was reading it this afternoon again, I cant help but suggest  
to all refinement newbies and more experienced 'refiners' my favorite  
read:


Acta Crystallogr D Biol Crystallogr. 2004 Dec;60(Pt 12 Pt 1):2156-68.  
Epub 2004 Nov 26.


Introduction to macromolecular refinement.

Tronrud DE.
Howard Hughes Medical Institute and Institute of Molecular Biology,  
University of Oregon, Eugene, OR 97403, USA. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The process of refinement is such a large problem in function  
minimization that even the computers of today cannot perform the  
calculations to properly fit X-ray diffraction data. Each of the  
refinement packages currently under development reduces the  
difficulty of this problem by utilizing a unique combination of  
targets, assumptions and optimization methods. This review summarizes  
the basic methods and underlying assumptions in the commonly used  
refinement packages. This information can guide the selection of a  
refinement package that is best suited for a particular refinement  
project.


Tassos

PS  Krishna, your questions will at least be partially answered in  
that; you will also see there is no simple answer before you define  
your needs better.



On 24 Jul 2007, at 20:07, krish wrote:


Hello to all,

I'm a bit new to CNS. I am using CNS for rigid  
body refinement but i don't know how to define domains in the input  
file and also for annealated simulations which one I have to chose.  
I mean either "cartesian " or "torsion" molecular dynamics.


Thanx in advance for your kind help.


Krishna Ch
PhD Student
Hannover Medical School
Hannover





Re: [ccp4bb] Help with coordinate file

2007-07-24 Thread artis
You might need to make sure that the input format you are entering is the
correct one for the program that created the file.


> Thanks for the advice everyone.  I downloaded the graphic interface for
> Open Babel but for some reason it's not converting my file.  I'll play
> around more with this later but any hints would be greatly appreciated.
>
>
> On Tue, July 24, 2007 09:50, Seth Horne wrote:
>> Try Open Babel at http://openbabel.sourceforge.net/wiki/Main_Page
>>
>> Regards,
>> Seth
>>
>> 
>> W. Seth Horne, Ph.D.
>> Department of Chemistry
>> University of Wisconsin
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
>> Mona N. Rahman
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2007 8:32 AM
>> To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
>> Subject: [ccp4bb] Help with coordinate file
>>
>> Hello all,
>>
>> I have a coordinate file of an energy minimized molecule which was
>> apparently done using Chem 3D Pro.  Does anyone know how I can convert
>> this to a pdb file?
>>
>> Thank you
>> Mona Rahman
>>
>>
>> --
>> Mona N. Rahman, Ph.D.
>> Post-doctoral Fellow
>> Botterell Hall, Room 634
>> Department of Biochemistry
>> Queen's University
>> Kingston, ON, K7L 3N6
>> Tel:  613-533-6392
>> E-mail:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Mona N. Rahman, Ph.D.
> Post-doctoral Fellow
> Botterell Hall, Room 634
> Department of Biochemistry
> Queen's University
> Kingston, ON, K7L 3N6
> Tel:  613-533-6392
> E-mail:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>


Arti S. Pandey
Graduate Student
Chemistry and Biochemistry
Montana State University
Bozeman,MT 59717