RE: Bind and blacklist IP file

2010-10-12 Thread Ian Tait
 

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Subject: Re: Bind and blacklist IP file



>Ok, but you can always browse by IP address and in this case there is
no DNS server than can stop you from 
>browsing what you want.

Vaguely related, are host headers - a lot of webservers share an IP
address/many IP addresses and use host headers to 'display' the correct
website.

You wouldn't be able to browse a particular website hosted in this
fashion, by IP address.

Ian

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Re: AXFR partially timed out

2010-10-12 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
> > >I have a very strange problem with AXFR. We are using a master and a
> > >secondary DNS Server with an internal and an external view. Depending
> > >on the source address the secondary server will get the internal or
> > >external view for zone transfer.
> > >
> > >Everything is working correct so far except only one specific zone file
> > >won't get transferred. In the external view there are about 70 zones
> > >defined. Every zone will get transferred except one and only one won't.
> > >Therefor there can't be a problem with the firewall.
> > >
> > >Then I scaled down the seconday DNS server to just about 2 zones and
> > >again: this specific zone file won't get transfered even the master
> > >said "AXFR started" and "AXFR ended" for this particular zone. On
> > >the secondary server I'll get "giving up: timed out".
> 
> > Is the problem zone larger than the ones that are not a problem?  If so 
> > it may be a MTU problem, or even a firewall that does things differently 
> > based on packet sizes.

On 11.10.10 23:11, Beat Jucker wrote:
> Indeed the trouble zone is about double the size of other zones. 
> Both DNS servers are Solaris boxes and comunicate by plain TCP (no VPN).
> How can I check for MTU problem and how can I influence it?
> 
> When I ask for the zone by dig utility everything is ok but not
> when the zone get requested by named ... head scraping ...

well, try in the following order:

dig +notcp

dig +tcp

dig +notcp +bufsize=1480

dig +notcp +bufsize=1500

dig +notcp +bufsize=4096

that may tell you something...

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Re: Bind and blacklist IP file

2010-10-12 Thread Andrey G. Sergeev (AKA Andris)
Hello Ian,


Tue, 12 Oct 2010 10:54:19 +0100 "Ian Tait" wrote:

>> Ok, but you can always browse by IP address and in this case there
>> is no DNS server than can stop you from browsing what you want.
> 
> Vaguely related, are host headers - a lot of webservers share an IP
> address/many IP addresses and use host headers to 'display' the
> correct website.
> 
> You wouldn't be able to browse a particular website hosted in this
> fashion, by IP address.

If you know the website domain and the corresponding IP address and if
your ISP prevents you from accessing this website by timing out or
tampering DNS query results you can always put the entry like

192.168.10.20   www.domain.tld.

to your hosts file and access the site.

This technique is also in use when someone needs to access the site
which is on a not delegated domains.


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Andrey G. Sergeev (AKA Andris) http://www.andris.name/
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testing bounces please ignore

2010-10-12 Thread donovan jeffrey j
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Re: AXFR partially timed out

2010-10-12 Thread Dave Sparro

On 10/11/2010 5:11 PM, Beat Jucker wrote:

Is the problem zone larger than the ones that are not a problem?  If so
it may be a MTU problem, or even a firewall that does things differently
based on packet sizes.


Indeed the trouble zone is about double the size of other zones.
Both DNS servers are Solaris boxes and comunicate by plain TCP (no VPN).
How can I check for MTU problem and how can I influence it?


look at:
man ifconfig

try setting the MTU to 1200 to see if the results are different.

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Re: Bind and blacklist IP file

2010-10-12 Thread Alans

On 10/12/2010 03:44 PM, Andrey G. Sergeev (AKA Andris) wrote:

Hello Ian,


Tue, 12 Oct 2010 10:54:19 +0100 "Ian Tait" wrote:


Ok, but you can always browse by IP address and in this case there
is no DNS server than can stop you from browsing what you want.


Vaguely related, are host headers - a lot of webservers share an IP
address/many IP addresses and use host headers to 'display' the
correct website.

You wouldn't be able to browse a particular website hosted in this
fashion, by IP address.


If you know the website domain and the corresponding IP address and if
your ISP prevents you from accessing this website by timing out or
tampering DNS query results you can always put the entry like

192.168.10.20   www.domain.tld.

to your hosts file and access the site.

This technique is also in use when someone needs to access the site
which is on a not delegated domains.


Even this way, you should know all the IP of subdomains to work 
properly. Try it for facebook, open homepage fine but once you login it 
will fail.
Another thing, we are talking about a technical person, for other users 
they don't know about hosts file or they don't have access to change it 
even it they know about it.


regards.
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Re: Bind and blacklist IP file

2010-10-12 Thread Sam Wilson
In article ,
 Alans  wrote:

> [ Norwegian Gov vs ISPs, banning domains, and inserting local host
>entries to subvert such a ban ]
>
> Even this way, you should know all the IP of subdomains to work 
> properly. Try it for facebook, open homepage fine but once you login it 
> will fail.
> Another thing, we are talking about a technical person, for other users 
> they don't know about hosts file or they don't have access to change it 
> even it they know about it.

So there's a market opportunity for someone with half a clue to help out 
his "friends".

Sam
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