Questions: BIND Dynamic Update DoS

2009-08-03 Thread ato...@people.net.au

According to this link: https://www.isc.org/node/474

The dynamic update vulnerability affects all BIND 9 versions, but what 
about BIND 8? Is it not affected or not tested?


As we are running BIND 8 (can't upgrade to BIND 9 due to restricted to 
Windows2000), how can we test if dynamic update is a problem for us?


TIA.
Peter

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Re: Questions: BIND Dynamic Update DoS

2009-08-03 Thread sthaug
> According to this link: https://www.isc.org/node/474
> 
> The dynamic update vulnerability affects all BIND 9 versions, but what 
> about BIND 8? Is it not affected or not tested?

BIND 8 is End of Life. It has several known vulnerabilities. See for
instance

https://www.isc.org/node/378

I don't know if the recent dynamic update vulnerability affects BIND 8.
However, given the number of *other* known vulnerabilities in BIND 8
you should definitely think about upgrading.

Steinar Haug, Nethelp consulting, sth...@nethelp.no
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Re: change NXDOMAIN to a A type response

2009-08-03 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 03.08.09 13:59, Ryan Qian wrote:
> some isp change NXDOMAIN to a A type response, I know this is can not be
> realized by bind software by default source code, so is there anyone know
> how do they realize this function? change the source code or use proxy
> software upon DNS bind?

Many people consider that a bad idea. the DNS is used by many applications
in many manners and providing false answers can break them in many ways.

You won't get different answer on this list, i guess.

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Re: change NXDOMAIN to a A type response

2009-08-03 Thread Chris Thompson

On Aug 3 2009, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote:


On 03.08.09 13:59, Ryan Qian wrote:

some isp change NXDOMAIN to a A type response, I know this is can not be
realized by bind software by default source code, so is there anyone know
how do they realize this function? change the source code or use proxy
software upon DNS bind?


Many people consider that a bad idea. the DNS is used by many applications
in many manners and providing false answers can break them in many ways.

You won't get different answer on this list, i guess.


You could read the rather heated discussion of Internet Draft
draft-livingood-dns-redirect-00 over on the dnsop mailing list -
see http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/dnsop

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Re: Dig shows wrong ip

2009-08-03 Thread Chris Thompson

On Aug 3 2009, Danny Mayer wrote:


Chris Thompson wrote:

[...]

You are misinterpreting what I said. Of course erroneous glue needs to be
corrected. But there is no need for the servers to return IP addresses
provided for glue as an *answer* to a query, as the *.gtld-servers.net ones
do, rather than giving a proper referral. (At least their answers are not
marked authoritative, unlike those from some other nameservers.)


It needs to be part of the answer if the nameserver is in the same
domain as the FQDN otherwise it won't know where to go for the answers.
That's the point of the glue.


It needs to be part of the *response*, not part of the *answer* (section).
In a referral, glue records appear in the additional section: the answer
section is empty.

When the *.gtld-servers.net servers are asked about dns3.potomacnetworks.com
(for example), they don't give a referral. They give an answer based on
what ought to be the glue record. This means that if the NS records for
potomacnetworks.com have not already been cached, a recursive nameserver
will believe this answer (and cache it). This would only be proper 
behaviour if the *.gtld-servers.net were slaving (possibly stealth slaving)

potomacnetworks.com - which of course they aren't, but how is the poor
recursive nameserver to know that?

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Tim Debolt/AHM/AM/HONDA is out of the office.

2009-08-03 Thread Tim_Debolt

I will be out of the office starting  08/03/2009 and will not return until
08/04/2009.

I will respond to your message when I return.

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Re: change NXDOMAIN to a A type response

2009-08-03 Thread Tech W.


--- On Mon, 3/8/09, Matus UHLAR - fantomas  wrote:


> 
> Many people consider that a bad idea. the DNS is used by
> many applications
> in many manners and providing false answers can break them
> in many ways.
> 


Here the primary ISP CN Telecom does do DNS hijack, though I hate this.
anybody could try it using their DNS with nslookup:

> server 202.96.128.166
Default Server:  cache-b.guangzhou.gd.cn
Address:  202.96.128.166

> www.notexists234256235.com
Server:  cache-b.guangzhou.gd.cn
Address:  202.96.128.166

Non-authoritative answer:
Name:www.notexists234256235.com
Address:  59.37.71.85


www.notexists234256235.com doesn't exist, but this DNS does return an A RR.


Wah.


  

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Dave Mason is on vacation..

2009-08-03 Thread Dave.Mason

I will be out of the office starting  07/31/2009 and will not return until
08/17/2009.

I will respond to your message when I return.

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Re: Dig shows wrong ip

2009-08-03 Thread JINMEI Tatuya / 神明達哉
At 03 Aug 2009 11:52:10 +0100,
Chris Thompson  wrote:

> will believe this answer (and cache it). This would only be proper 
> behaviour if the *.gtld-servers.net were slaving (possibly stealth slaving)
> potomacnetworks.com - which of course they aren't, but how is the poor
> recursive nameserver to know that?

By seeing the aa bit of the response.  We're aware of this problem and
have a patch to fix the behavior at the resolver side.  The fix will
(hopefully) appear in next release versions of BIND9.

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Re: Bind9.6.0 Statistics Output

2009-08-03 Thread JINMEI Tatuya / 神明達哉
At Thu, 30 Jul 2009 09:53:13 +0200,
"Dangl, Thomas"  wrote:

> I collect statistics data via the http interface and parse the XML file.
>  
> There are some differences of the layout of the XML result between
> Bind9.5 and Bind9.6.

To be precise, there have been substantial changes in (IIRC) 9.5.1
from 9.5.0, so it's actually not between 9.5 and 9.6.  Note that the
XML format is still considered "experimental", and backward
incompatible changes may still happen.  However, we understand such
changes are very inconvenient even if it's still "experimental", and
we'll try to keep future changes in a backward compatible manner as
much as possible.

> Is there an option or configuration parameter that allows to control the
> XML format?

No, but you can at least check the statistics version to see if it's
compatible for your parser.  The current version is 2.0, and, in
general, changes in the same major version (currently "2") should be
backward compatible.

> There are 2 views found in the XML file named "_default" and "bind".
> Is there a view - or rather one of these views - that is included in
> each XML statistics result that contains the total of the counter across
> all views?
> Or is it necessary to parse across all views and calculate the sum? 

The latter.  If a statistics counter is provided per-view basis, you
need to sum up the counters of all views to get the total.

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RE: Questions: BIND Dynamic Update DoS

2009-08-03 Thread MontyRee

 
> The dynamic update vulnerability affects all BIND 9 versions, but what 
> about BIND 8? Is it not affected or not tested?
As I know, there is no effect at bind 8 version.
 
 
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Re: How many available compile options are on bind-9.4.3-P3

2009-08-03 Thread Mark Andrews

In message , "David M. D
owdle" writes:
> So, as he originally asked, how do you find out what the feature MEANS?
> 
> --enable-getifaddrsEnable the use of getifaddrs() [yes|no].
> 
> All the documentation I could find on it for bind was a 2006 'fixed bug in 
> linux with getifaddrs'. So what's the advantage and disadvantage of this 
> 'feature'. IE what features does this feature do?

These days it does little.  CHANGES references to getifaddrs.

2342.   [func]  Use getifaddrs() if available under Linux. [RT #17224]

2160.   [bug]   libisc wasn't handling NULL ifa_addr pointers returned
from getifaddrs(). [RT #16708]

1751.   [bug]   --enable-getifaddrs failed under linux. [RT #12867]

1626.   [bug]   --enable-getifaddrs was broken. [RT#11259]

1454.   [port]  Use getifaddrs() if available for interface scanning.
--disable-getifaddrs to override.  Glibc currently
has a getifaddrs() that does not support IPv6.
Use --enable-getifaddrs=glibc to force the use of
this version under linux machines.

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