[AFMUG] Need to purchase 2200 feet of Corning SMF-28e+

2020-05-28 Thread Paul McCall
Anybody have this in stock?

Corning SMF-28e+
2200ft.

Paul McCall, President
Florida Broadband / PDMNet
658 Old Dixie Highway
Vero Beach, FL 32962
772-564-6800

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Re: [AFMUG] Ot: yum

2020-05-28 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)
Add some Vienna sausage pieces and then you've got something.

Actually the tater tots with cheese and butter sound yummy (without the
vienna sausages)


On Wed, May 27, 2020 at 9:14 PM Steve Jones 
wrote:

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> On Wed, May 27, 2020, 10:12 PM Steve Jones 
> wrote:
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>> This is a bowl of melted cheese and butter with a few tater tots. This is
>> true gourmet
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Re: [AFMUG] Documenting logical paths

2020-05-28 Thread Adam Moffett
I realized last night that at some point no amount of documentation is 
going to help the next guy.  He'll either be able to understand what 
he's seeing or he won't.  If you drew me perfectly detailed pictures of 
a jet turbine I still wouldn't understand all the nuance of it.  Maybe 
it's likewise with some of this network stuff.



On 5/28/2020 12:29 AM, Steve Jones wrote:

It cant be done. I've tried. It's simply not doable.

But really, what he asked

On Wed, May 27, 2020, 2:08 PM Adam Moffett > wrote:


All of the DCIM software I look at focuses on answering "What's
plugged
into what" and "what's in the rack".

Those are important things to document, but how do you show or draw a
VLAN bridged to a VPLS tunnel and other such shenanigans?



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Re: [AFMUG] Documenting logical paths

2020-05-28 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)
I've always been a fan of self-documenting configuration, code, etc.

The idea of maintaining a second document which somehow has to stay in sync
with what is in the network is not realistic.   Worse, it can lead you down
the wrong path when the documentation says one thing and it's configured
another way.   You of course have to keep track of a certain amount of
stuff, just because you can't search your entire network for a given
answer.   Like what ports customers are plugged into, or at least what
switches.

Over the years, I've found that it's much better to come up with general
architecture documents and also configuration standards instead of
documenting every little thing.   You need to document the things a skilled
practitioner is going to need to come up to speed, not how every knob is
turned.   The standards are more so you don't have to deal with a hundred
things configured a hundred different ways.


On Thu, May 28, 2020 at 4:51 AM Adam Moffett  wrote:

> I realized last night that at some point no amount of documentation is
> going to help the next guy.  He'll either be able to understand what he's
> seeing or he won't.  If you drew me perfectly detailed pictures of a jet
> turbine I still wouldn't understand all the nuance of it.  Maybe it's
> likewise with some of this network stuff.
>
>
> On 5/28/2020 12:29 AM, Steve Jones wrote:
>
> It cant be done. I've tried. It's simply not doable.
>
> But really, what he asked
>
> On Wed, May 27, 2020, 2:08 PM Adam Moffett  wrote:
>
>> All of the DCIM software I look at focuses on answering "What's plugged
>> into what" and "what's in the rack".
>>
>> Those are important things to document, but how do you show or draw a
>> VLAN bridged to a VPLS tunnel and other such shenanigans?
>>
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Re: [AFMUG] Ot: yum

2020-05-28 Thread Ken Hohhof
I used to think of Tater Tots as stuff you feed little kids, but they are the 
perfect pandemic food.

 

They go with almost everything, they come in a bag so you just shake out how 
ever many you want to make, they are tolerant of different oven temperatures so 
you can throw them in with whatever else you are making, and if you make too 
many they heat up fine the next day in the toaster oven.  Plus none of the 
frozen French fries are any good, if you don’t have a deep fryer, it’s baked 
potatoes or Tots.  They last forever in the freezer, and are a staple you need 
to always have on hand like flour and toilet paper.

 

I prefer the Mini Tater Tots, and baking them hotter and longer than the 
directions say.  But the toaster oven also works.

 

 

From: AF  On Behalf Of Forrest Christian (List Account)
Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2020 4:05 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ot: yum

 

Add some Vienna sausage pieces and then you've got something.

 

Actually the tater tots with cheese and butter sound yummy (without the vienna 
sausages)

 

 

On Wed, May 27, 2020 at 9:14 PM Steve Jones mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

On Wed, May 27, 2020, 10:12 PM Steve Jones mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> > wrote:

This is a bowl of melted cheese and butter with a few tater tots. This is true 
gourmet

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Re: [AFMUG] Ot: yum

2020-05-28 Thread Bill Prince

  
  
We almost always have some baby potatoes (AKA "fingerlings) on
  hand. You can fix them a dozen different ways. They can be
  colorful too (red, white, purple).





bp



On 5/28/2020 6:41 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:


  
  
  
  
I used to think of Tater Tots as stuff you
  feed little kids, but they are the perfect pandemic food.
 
They go with almost everything, they come
  in a bag so you just shake out how ever many you want to make,
  they are tolerant of different oven temperatures so you can
  throw them in with whatever else you are making, and if you
  make too many they heat up fine the next day in the toaster
  oven.  Plus none of the frozen French fries are any good, if
  you don’t have a deep fryer, it’s baked potatoes or Tots. 
  They last forever in the freezer, and are a staple you need to
  always have on hand like flour and toilet paper.
 
I prefer the Mini Tater Tots, and baking
  them hotter and longer than the directions say.  But the
  toaster oven also works.
 
 

  From: AF
 On Behalf Of Forrest
Christian (List Account)
Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2020 4:05 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ot: yum

 

  Add some Vienna sausage pieces and then
you've got something.    
  
 
  
  
Actually the tater tots with cheese and
  butter sound yummy (without the vienna sausages)
  
  
 
  

 

  
On Wed, May 27, 2020 at 9:14 PM Steve
  Jones 
  wrote:
  
  
 

  
On Wed, May 27, 2020, 10:12 PM
  Steve Jones 
  wrote:
  
  

  This is a bowl of melted cheese
and butter with a few tater tots. This is true
gourmet

  

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Re: [AFMUG] Need to purchase 2200 feet of Corning SMF-28e+

2020-05-28 Thread Colin Stanners
I'm assuming that you want it as a cable, not just the bare hair-sized
fiber. Now many strands in the cable? indoor or outdoor or both? if the
latter, armoured?

On Thu, May 28, 2020 at 2:36 AM Paul McCall  wrote:

> Anybody have this in stock?
>
>
>
> *Corning SMF-28e+*
>
> 2200ft.
>
>
>
> *Paul McCall, President *
>
> *Florida Broadband / PDMNet*
>
> *658 Old Dixie Highway*
>
> *Vero Beach, FL 32962*
>
> *772-564-6800*
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Re: [AFMUG] Supper

2020-05-28 Thread Chuck McCown
Cod

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 27, 2020, at 8:54 PM, Jaime Solorza  wrote:
> 
> 
> Looks good.what fish did you use? 
> 
>> On Wed, May 27, 2020, 6:17 PM Chuck McCown  wrote:
>> Pescado al la veracruzana.  Yum!
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Re: [AFMUG] Supper

2020-05-28 Thread Jaime Solorza
I love Cod !! Luby's Cafeteria...

On Thu, May 28, 2020, 8:14 AM Chuck McCown  wrote:

> Cod
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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> On May 27, 2020, at 8:54 PM, Jaime Solorza 
> wrote:
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> 
> Looks good.what fish did you use?
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> On Wed, May 27, 2020, 6:17 PM Chuck McCown  wrote:
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>> Pescado al la veracruzana.  Yum!
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Re: [AFMUG] Supper

2020-05-28 Thread Ken Hohhof
My college roommate had one joke – he had a fish in his wallet and would show 
you his credit cod.

 

From: AF  On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza
Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2020 10:07 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Supper

 

I love Cod !! Luby's Cafeteria...

 

On Thu, May 28, 2020, 8:14 AM Chuck McCown mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com> > wrote:

Cod

Sent from my iPhone





On May 27, 2020, at 8:54 PM, Jaime Solorza mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com> > wrote:



Looks good.what fish did you use? 

 

On Wed, May 27, 2020, 6:17 PM Chuck McCown mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com> > wrote:

Pescado al la veracruzana.  Yum!



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[AFMUG] Amazon DNS

2020-05-28 Thread Adam Moffett
Through both Google DNS and Cloudflare we can resolve amazon.com, but 
NOT www.amazon.com.


Throwing that out there in case someone has a friend of a friend who can 
let Amazon know.



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Re: [AFMUG] Amazon DNS

2020-05-28 Thread Mike Hammett
https://puck.nether.net/pipermail/outages/2020-May/013069.html 




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Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2020 2:28:53 PM 
Subject: [AFMUG] Amazon DNS 


Through both Google DNS and Cloudflare we can resolve amazon.com, but NOT 
www.amazon.com . 
Throwing that out there in case someone has a friend of a friend who can let 
Amazon know. 




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Re: [AFMUG] Amazon DNS

2020-05-28 Thread Timothy Steele
looks like someone fixed it..
[image: image.png]

On Fri, May 29, 2020 at 3:29 AM Adam Moffett  wrote:

> Through both Google DNS and Cloudflare we can resolve amazon.com, but NOT
> www.amazon.com.
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