Re: [AFMUG] Packet Flux Temperature Controller

[Forrest Christian (List Account)]

The intelligent temp control is mechanically identical to the relay module,
but has two resistive temperature inputs and 4 normaly open relay outputs.
I.E. On the 12 pin input, the first 4 pins are used (2 each) for the
temperature sensors, and the remaining 8 pins are used (2 each) for the
relays.

The sensors are about 18" long or so, but can be extended without a lot of
effort.

Works fine down to very cold.   Not sure what the lower range is right off
the top of my head but it's well below 0F.

As an aside, the Base 3 will have it's switch closure input repurposed to a
resistance input, with an option for connecting a similar temperature
sensor.   So you'll have the base 3 internal sensor, and then can choose to
use the resistance input as a temperature input instead.

I've checked and Debbie has replacing that picture with a temperature
controller on her todo list.   We're not sure when it got misuploaded but
we discovered it a couple months back.

-forrest

On Wed, Nov 13, 2019 at 2:20 PM Nate Burke  wrote:

> I was wondering if anyone had any pictures of the 'SiteMonitor
> Intelligent Temperature Control' unit.  I think the image on the website
> is just of the 4 port relay module.
>
> What do the 'thermocouples' look like.  How long are the leads/can they
> be expanded.  What is the temperature range on the thermocouples. Will
> they operate <32F?
>
> My Current airduct controller that was using SNMP read/write from a
> MiniGoose to an APC PDU unit just died, so I'm looking for a replacement.
>
> Nate
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Re: [AFMUG] OT bad stock tips

[Forrest Christian (List Account)]

So I bought a bit of CMBM today.   Stock immediately lost 3.65% My
trend continues.

(It's a long-term purchase, I'm not particularly worried).

On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 9:51 PM Forrest Christian (List Account) <
li...@packetflux.com> wrote:

> I thought for a while that people should just look at what I invest in and
> short them.   I had a nearly 100% success rate in picking stocks which
> would eventually become worthless. But again I also at the time figured
> that there was a high percentage chance that the stocks I picked would do
> that - it was more gambling than investing since they were largely R&D
> ventures.
>
> I do still occasionally buy a few shares of individual stocks, but it
> really is more of a bit of "I trust and respect this company, I would like
> to own a little piece of it" than investing.   Tesla, Microchip
> Technologies, etc.   Will probably pick up some CMBM.   Other than that I
> just stick to index funds anymore.
>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 8:03 PM Chuck McCown  wrote:
>
>> I am thinking of following up my strategic Moviepass investment with one
>> in PG&E.  It has to be bottoming out.  No where to go but up, right?
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Re: [AFMUG] OT bad stock tips

[Josh Luthman]

It's been going up and down a whole lot every couple of weeks so I just
jump in/out making a few pennies.

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Direct: 937-552-2343
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On Thu, Nov 14, 2019 at 4:29 AM Forrest Christian (List Account) <
li...@packetflux.com> wrote:

> So I bought a bit of CMBM today.   Stock immediately lost 3.65% My
> trend continues.
>
> (It's a long-term purchase, I'm not particularly worried).
>
> On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 9:51 PM Forrest Christian (List Account) <
> li...@packetflux.com> wrote:
>
>> I thought for a while that people should just look at what I invest in
>> and short them.   I had a nearly 100% success rate in picking stocks which
>> would eventually become worthless. But again I also at the time figured
>> that there was a high percentage chance that the stocks I picked would do
>> that - it was more gambling than investing since they were largely R&D
>> ventures.
>>
>> I do still occasionally buy a few shares of individual stocks, but it
>> really is more of a bit of "I trust and respect this company, I would like
>> to own a little piece of it" than investing.   Tesla, Microchip
>> Technologies, etc.   Will probably pick up some CMBM.   Other than that I
>> just stick to index funds anymore.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 8:03 PM Chuck McCown  wrote:
>>
>>> I am thinking of following up my strategic Moviepass investment with one
>>> in PG&E.  It has to be bottoming out.  No where to go but up, right?
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Re: [AFMUG] OT bad stock tips

[Carl Peterson]

UI is at a good point to short (Buy Puts) but If you are risk averse you
might want to wait a bit to see if there is a secondary squeeze.  It
squeezed up hard after the last earnings and should drop down to 130-150 in
the next few months.

On Thu, Nov 14, 2019 at 8:32 AM Josh Luthman 
wrote:

> It's been going up and down a whole lot every couple of weeks so I just
> jump in/out making a few pennies.
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 14, 2019 at 4:29 AM Forrest Christian (List Account) <
> li...@packetflux.com> wrote:
>
>> So I bought a bit of CMBM today.   Stock immediately lost 3.65% My
>> trend continues.
>>
>> (It's a long-term purchase, I'm not particularly worried).
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 9:51 PM Forrest Christian (List Account) <
>> li...@packetflux.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I thought for a while that people should just look at what I invest in
>>> and short them.   I had a nearly 100% success rate in picking stocks which
>>> would eventually become worthless. But again I also at the time figured
>>> that there was a high percentage chance that the stocks I picked would do
>>> that - it was more gambling than investing since they were largely R&D
>>> ventures.
>>>
>>> I do still occasionally buy a few shares of individual stocks, but it
>>> really is more of a bit of "I trust and respect this company, I would like
>>> to own a little piece of it" than investing.   Tesla, Microchip
>>> Technologies, etc.   Will probably pick up some CMBM.   Other than that I
>>> just stick to index funds anymore.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 8:03 PM Chuck McCown  wrote:
>>>
 I am thinking of following up my strategic Moviepass investment with
 one in PG&E.  It has to be bottoming out.  No where to go but up, right?
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Re: [AFMUG] OT bad stock tips

[Josh Luthman]

I did UBNT for a while.  Made enough for a nice trip :)

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On Thu, Nov 14, 2019 at 9:40 AM Carl Peterson 
wrote:

> UI is at a good point to short (Buy Puts) but If you are risk averse you
> might want to wait a bit to see if there is a secondary squeeze.  It
> squeezed up hard after the last earnings and should drop down to 130-150 in
> the next few months.
>
> On Thu, Nov 14, 2019 at 8:32 AM Josh Luthman 
> wrote:
>
>> It's been going up and down a whole lot every couple of weeks so I just
>> jump in/out making a few pennies.
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 14, 2019 at 4:29 AM Forrest Christian (List Account) <
>> li...@packetflux.com> wrote:
>>
>>> So I bought a bit of CMBM today.   Stock immediately lost 3.65% My
>>> trend continues.
>>>
>>> (It's a long-term purchase, I'm not particularly worried).
>>>
>>> On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 9:51 PM Forrest Christian (List Account) <
>>> li...@packetflux.com> wrote:
>>>
 I thought for a while that people should just look at what I invest in
 and short them.   I had a nearly 100% success rate in picking stocks which
 would eventually become worthless. But again I also at the time figured
 that there was a high percentage chance that the stocks I picked would do
 that - it was more gambling than investing since they were largely R&D
 ventures.

 I do still occasionally buy a few shares of individual stocks, but it
 really is more of a bit of "I trust and respect this company, I would like
 to own a little piece of it" than investing.   Tesla, Microchip
 Technologies, etc.   Will probably pick up some CMBM.   Other than that I
 just stick to index funds anymore.



 On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 8:03 PM Chuck McCown  wrote:

> I am thinking of following up my strategic Moviepass investment with
> one in PG&E.  It has to be bottoming out.  No where to go but up, right?
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Re: [AFMUG] Packet Flux Temperature Controller

[Nate Burke]

How big are the thermocouples?  My old setup they were basically the 
size of a #12 wire.  I just drilled a little hole in the metal duct and 
pushed the sensor through.  Are these similar?


On 11/14/2019 3:07 AM, Forrest Christian (List Account) wrote:
The intelligent temp control is mechanically identical to the relay 
module, but has two resistive temperature inputs and 4 normaly open 
relay outputs.  I.E. On the 12 pin input, the first 4 pins are used (2 
each) for the temperature sensors, and the remaining 8 pins are used 
(2 each) for the relays.


The sensors are about 18" long or so, but can be extended without a 
lot of effort.


Works fine down to very cold.   Not sure what the lower range is right 
off the top of my head but it's well below 0F.


As an aside, the Base 3 will have it's switch closure input repurposed 
to a resistance input, with an option for connecting a similar 
temperature sensor.   So you'll have the base 3 internal sensor, and 
then can choose to use the resistance input as a temperature input 
instead.


I've checked and Debbie has replacing that picture with a temperature 
controller on her todo list.   We're not sure when it got 
misuploaded but we discovered it a couple months back.


-forrest

On Wed, Nov 13, 2019 at 2:20 PM Nate Burke > wrote:


I was wondering if anyone had any pictures of the 'SiteMonitor
Intelligent Temperature Control' unit.  I think the image on the
website
is just of the 4 port relay module.

What do the 'thermocouples' look like.  How long are the leads/can
they
be expanded.  What is the temperature range on the thermocouples.
Will
they operate <32F?

My Current airduct controller that was using SNMP read/write from a
MiniGoose to an APC PDU unit just died, so I'm looking for a
replacement.

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Re: [AFMUG] Started a WISP discord server

[Timothy Steele]

Forgot to set invite link to never expire

here is the new link https://discord.gg/JfcyhZg

Thanks,

On Thu, Nov 14, 2019 at 2:26 PM Timothy Steele 
wrote:

> That's odd
>
> I checked the settings again and not required
>
> Also have about 5 other users that joined just fine
>
> I'll keep looking into it but from what I'm reading ether you never
> verified your discord email, failed that captcha or discord flagged your
> account
>
> On Thu, Nov 14, 2019, 1:39 PM  wrote:
>
>> > Started a WISP discord server
>> > If anyone wants to check it out
>>   Requires a phone number to access. Screw that.
>>
>> Jared
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Re: [AFMUG] Started a WISP discord server

[Chuck McCown]

App download is a bit slower than plate tectonics .

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 14, 2019, at 8:59 AM, Timothy Steele  wrote:
> 
> 
> Forgot to set invite link to never expire
> 
> here is the new link https://discord.gg/JfcyhZg
> 
> Thanks,
> 
>> On Thu, Nov 14, 2019 at 2:26 PM Timothy Steele  
>> wrote:
>> That's odd
>> 
>> I checked the settings again and not required
>> 
>> Also have about 5 other users that joined just fine
>> 
>> I'll keep looking into it but from what I'm reading ether you never verified 
>> your discord email, failed that captcha or discord flagged your account
>> 
>>> On Thu, Nov 14, 2019, 1:39 PM  wrote:
>>> > Started a WISP discord server 
>>> > If anyone wants to check it out
>>>   Requires a phone number to access. Screw that.
>>> 
>>> Jared 
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Re: [AFMUG] OT bad stock tips

[Robert]

Note to self, Buy CMBM, instant 3.65% win...

On 11/14/19 1:28 AM, Forrest Christian (List Account) wrote:
So I bought a bit of CMBM today.   Stock immediately lost 3.65% My 
trend continues.


(It's a long-term purchase, I'm not particularly worried).

On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 9:51 PM Forrest Christian (List Account) 
mailto:li...@packetflux.com>> wrote:


I thought for a while that people should just look at what I
invest in and short them.   I had a nearly 100% success rate in
picking stocks which would eventually become worthless.     But
again I also at the time figured that there was a high percentage
chance that the stocks I picked would do that - it was more
gambling than investing since they were largely R&D ventures.

I do still occasionally buy a few shares of individual stocks, but
it really is more of a bit of "I trust and respect this company, I
would like to own a little piece of it" than investing.   Tesla,
Microchip Technologies, etc.   Will probably pick up some CMBM.
 Other than that I just stick to index funds anymore.



On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 8:03 PM Chuck McCown mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote:

I am thinking of following up my strategic Moviepass
investment with one in PG&E.  It has to be bottoming out.  No
where to go but up, right?
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Re: [AFMUG] Started a WISP discord server

[Josh Luthman]

I'd probably do a WISP Slack since I already have it running for
Powercode/my company.  I'm not doing another program - especially Discord.
Just my thoughts.

Josh Luthman
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Direct: 937-552-2343
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Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373


On Thu, Nov 14, 2019 at 11:06 AM Chuck McCown  wrote:

> App download is a bit slower than plate tectonics .
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Nov 14, 2019, at 8:59 AM, Timothy Steele 
> wrote:
>
> 
> Forgot to set invite link to never expire
>
> here is the new link https://discord.gg/JfcyhZg
>
> Thanks,
>
> On Thu, Nov 14, 2019 at 2:26 PM Timothy Steele 
> wrote:
>
>> That's odd
>>
>> I checked the settings again and not required
>>
>> Also have about 5 other users that joined just fine
>>
>> I'll keep looking into it but from what I'm reading ether you never
>> verified your discord email, failed that captcha or discord flagged your
>> account
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 14, 2019, 1:39 PM  wrote:
>>
>>> > Started a WISP discord server
>>> > If anyone wants to check it out
>>>   Requires a phone number to access. Screw that.
>>>
>>> Jared
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Re: [AFMUG] Started a WISP discord server

[Timothy Steele]

would do slack if it was free and not a huge system hog and hard to
moderate

if someone finds a way to do it I agree it would be cool though

On Fri, Nov 15, 2019 at 12:16 AM Josh Luthman 
wrote:

> I'd probably do a WISP Slack since I already have it running for
> Powercode/my company.  I'm not doing another program - especially Discord.
> Just my thoughts.
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 14, 2019 at 11:06 AM Chuck McCown  wrote:
>
>> App download is a bit slower than plate tectonics .
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Nov 14, 2019, at 8:59 AM, Timothy Steele 
>> wrote:
>>
>> 
>> Forgot to set invite link to never expire
>>
>> here is the new link https://discord.gg/JfcyhZg
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 14, 2019 at 2:26 PM Timothy Steele 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> That's odd
>>>
>>> I checked the settings again and not required
>>>
>>> Also have about 5 other users that joined just fine
>>>
>>> I'll keep looking into it but from what I'm reading ether you never
>>> verified your discord email, failed that captcha or discord flagged your
>>> account
>>>
>>> On Thu, Nov 14, 2019, 1:39 PM  wrote:
>>>
 > Started a WISP discord server
 > If anyone wants to check it out
   Requires a phone number to access. Screw that.

 Jared


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Re: [AFMUG] OT bad stock tips

[Bill Prince]

  
  
I have a friend who had that kind of track record. We used to
  joke that we could plant an arrow out of his back to show the
  correct way to go.


bp



On 11/14/2019 1:28 AM, Forrest
  Christian (List Account) wrote:


  
  So I bought a bit of CMBM today.   Stock
immediately lost 3.65% My trend continues.


(It's a long-term purchase, I'm not particularly worried).
  
  
  
On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 9:51
  PM Forrest Christian (List Account) 
  wrote:


  I thought for a while that people should just
look at what I invest in and short them.   I had a nearly
100% success rate in picking stocks which would eventually
become worthless.     But again I also at the time figured
that there was a high percentage chance that the stocks I
picked would do that - it was more gambling than investing
since they were largely R&D ventures.



  I do still occasionally buy a few shares of
individual stocks, but it really is more of a bit of "I
trust and respect this company, I would like to own a
little piece of it" than investing.   Tesla, Microchip
Technologies, etc.   Will probably pick up some CMBM. 
 Other than that I just stick to index funds anymore.





  
  
  
On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at
  8:03 PM Chuck McCown 
  wrote:


  

  
I am thinking of following up my strategic
  Moviepass investment with one in PG&E.  It has
  to be bottoming out.  No where to go but up,
  right?
  

  
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Re: [AFMUG] Started a WISP discord server

[chuck]

OK, not sure what to do with this.  I have it loaded on the phone now.
Like to have a group of employees try it.  What is next?  They all add the app 
and then what?
Create a server, join a server.  Just like to give it a quick try.  

From: Timothy Steele 
Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2019 8:58 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Started a WISP discord server

Forgot to set invite link to never expire 

here is the new link https://discord.gg/JfcyhZg

Thanks,

On Thu, Nov 14, 2019 at 2:26 PM Timothy Steele  wrote:

  That's odd 

  I checked the settings again and not required

  Also have about 5 other users that joined just fine

  I'll keep looking into it but from what I'm reading ether you never verified 
your discord email, failed that captcha or discord flagged your account

  On Thu, Nov 14, 2019, 1:39 PM  wrote:

> Started a WISP discord server 
> If anyone wants to check it out
  Requires a phone number to access. Screw that.

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Re: [AFMUG] Started a WISP discord server

[Nate Burke]

So I'm realizing that I'm quickly reaching the age where all this 
newfangled stuff is moving too fast.  I've never heard of Dischord 
before.  A quick Google search, it looks like basically it's a paryline 
with the addition of texting?


What's the draw?

On 11/14/2019 10:44 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:

OK, not sure what to do with this.  I have it loaded on the phone now.
Like to have a group of employees try it.  What is next? They all add 
the app and then what?

Create a server, join a server.  Just like to give it a quick try.
*From:* Timothy Steele
*Sent:* Thursday, November 14, 2019 8:58 AM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Started a WISP discord server
Forgot to set invite link to never expire
here is the new link https://discord.gg/JfcyhZg
Thanks,
On Thu, Nov 14, 2019 at 2:26 PM Timothy Steele 
 wrote:


That's odd
I checked the settings again and not required
Also have about 5 other users that joined just fine
I'll keep looking into it but from what I'm reading ether you
never verified your discord email, failed that captcha or discord
flagged your account
On Thu, Nov 14, 2019, 1:39 PM  wrote:

> Started a WISP discord server
> If anyone wants to check it out
  Requires a phone number to access. Screw that.

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[AFMUG] Greta

[chuck]

Every time Greta goes somewhere, I am going to calculate the distance, 
multiply it by 2691 BTU per mile.

Divide that by 139000 and we have gallons of diesel.

So say she is boating from somewhere in South America to Spain.
Perhaps 3000 miles of airline flight she avoided.
3000*2691/139000=58 gallons.

So I will get a kick starter campaign to donate 58 gallons of fuel to light 
the Greta memorial torch so everyone can see when she is on the move.


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[AFMUG] OT Oops

[chuck]

Sh*t that was not supposed to get posted here.  I was sending this to my 
kids and their families.

I have 7 living kids with ideologies from Castro to Ronald Regan.
All of them millenials, so I like to prod them now and then.
I find amusement in the idea.

Sorry, it is still Lent.  Not a climate denier.  Just a teaser.

-Original Message- 
From: ch...@wbmfg.com

Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2019 10:15 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Greta

Every time Greta goes somewhere, I am going to calculate the distance,
multiply it by 2691 BTU per mile.
Divide that by 139000 and we have gallons of diesel.

So say she is boating from somewhere in South America to Spain.
Perhaps 3000 miles of airline flight she avoided.
3000*2691/139000=58 gallons.

So I will get a kick starter campaign to donate 58 gallons of fuel to light
the Greta memorial torch so everyone can see when she is on the move.

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Re: [AFMUG] Greta

[Robert Andrews]

Greta?

On 11/14/2019 09:15 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
Every time Greta goes somewhere, I am going to calculate the distance, 
multiply it by 2691 BTU per mile.

Divide that by 139000 and we have gallons of diesel.

So say she is boating from somewhere in South America to Spain.
Perhaps 3000 miles of airline flight she avoided.
3000*2691/139000=58 gallons.

So I will get a kick starter campaign to donate 58 gallons of fuel to 
light the Greta memorial torch so everyone can see when she is on the move.


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Re: [AFMUG] Started a WISP discord server

[Ken Hohhof]

Remember the TV commercials for chat lines, $1 a minute or something?  Or
this:

https://www.chatlineguide.com/naughty/

 

Stephen Colbert did a spoof on these a couple days ago with "Donald Trump's
Perfect Phone Call Hotline".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Of0S_6U9T8g

starts at around 7:00 in the video, substitute tantalizing impeachable
offenses for phone sex

 

From: AF  On Behalf Of Nate Burke
Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2019 10:50 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Started a WISP discord server

 

So I'm realizing that I'm quickly reaching the age where all this newfangled
stuff is moving too fast.  I've never heard of Dischord before.  A quick
Google search, it looks like basically it's a paryline with the addition of
texting?  

What's the draw?  

On 11/14/2019 10:44 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com   wrote:

OK, not sure what to do with this.  I have it loaded on the phone now.

Like to have a group of employees try it.  What is next?  They all add the
app and then what?

Create a server, join a server.  Just like to give it a quick try.  

 

From: Timothy Steele 

Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2019 8:58 AM

To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Started a WISP discord server

 

Forgot to set invite link to never expire 

 

here is the new link https://discord.gg/JfcyhZg

 

Thanks,

 

On Thu, Nov 14, 2019 at 2:26 PM Timothy Steele mailto:timothy.pct...@gmail.com> > wrote:

That's odd 

 

I checked the settings again and not required

 

Also have about 5 other users that joined just fine

 

I'll keep looking into it but from what I'm reading ether you never verified
your discord email, failed that captcha or discord flagged your account

 

On Thu, Nov 14, 2019, 1:39 PM mailto:fiber...@mail.com>
> wrote:

> Started a WISP discord server 
> If anyone wants to check it out
  Requires a phone number to access. Screw that.

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Re: [AFMUG] Greta

[chuck]

Thunberg

-Original Message- 
From: Robert Andrews

Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2019 10:34 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Greta

Greta?

On 11/14/2019 09:15 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
Every time Greta goes somewhere, I am going to calculate the distance, 
multiply it by 2691 BTU per mile.

Divide that by 139000 and we have gallons of diesel.

So say she is boating from somewhere in South America to Spain.
Perhaps 3000 miles of airline flight she avoided.
3000*2691/139000=58 gallons.

So I will get a kick starter campaign to donate 58 gallons of fuel to 
light the Greta memorial torch so everyone can see when she is on the 
move.


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Re: [AFMUG] Greta

[Mathew Howard]

I like it! excellent idea

On Thu, Nov 14, 2019 at 11:15 AM  wrote:

> Every time Greta goes somewhere, I am going to calculate the distance,
> multiply it by 2691 BTU per mile.
> Divide that by 139000 and we have gallons of diesel.
>
> So say she is boating from somewhere in South America to Spain.
> Perhaps 3000 miles of airline flight she avoided.
> 3000*2691/139000=58 gallons.
>
> So I will get a kick starter campaign to donate 58 gallons of fuel to
> light
> the Greta memorial torch so everyone can see when she is on the move.
>
> We have to combat climate change!!!
>
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Re: [AFMUG] Greta

[Jaime Solorza]

She scares youlol

On Thu, Nov 14, 2019, 10:43 AM  wrote:

> Thunberg
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Robert Andrews
> Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2019 10:34 AM
> To: af@af.afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Greta
>
> Greta?
>
> On 11/14/2019 09:15 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
> > Every time Greta goes somewhere, I am going to calculate the distance,
> > multiply it by 2691 BTU per mile.
> > Divide that by 139000 and we have gallons of diesel.
> >
> > So say she is boating from somewhere in South America to Spain.
> > Perhaps 3000 miles of airline flight she avoided.
> > 3000*2691/139000=58 gallons.
> >
> > So I will get a kick starter campaign to donate 58 gallons of fuel to
> > light the Greta memorial torch so everyone can see when she is on the
> > move.
> >
> > We have to combat climate change!!!
> >
>
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Re: [AFMUG] OT Oops

[Jaime Solorza]

I still think she scares you...lol

On Thu, Nov 14, 2019, 10:21 AM  wrote:

> Sh*t that was not supposed to get posted here.  I was sending this to my
> kids and their families.
> I have 7 living kids with ideologies from Castro to Ronald Regan.
> All of them millenials, so I like to prod them now and then.
> I find amusement in the idea.
>
> Sorry, it is still Lent.  Not a climate denier.  Just a teaser.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: ch...@wbmfg.com
> Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2019 10:15 AM
> To: af@af.afmug.com
> Subject: Greta
>
> Every time Greta goes somewhere, I am going to calculate the distance,
> multiply it by 2691 BTU per mile.
> Divide that by 139000 and we have gallons of diesel.
>
> So say she is boating from somewhere in South America to Spain.
> Perhaps 3000 miles of airline flight she avoided.
> 3000*2691/139000=58 gallons.
>
> So I will get a kick starter campaign to donate 58 gallons of fuel to light
> the Greta memorial torch so everyone can see when she is on the move.
>
> We have to combat climate change!!!
>
>
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Re: [AFMUG] Greta

[chuck]

Has the face of many scary school teachers.  Makes me flinch...

From: Jaime Solorza 
Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2019 10:48 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Greta

She scares youlol

On Thu, Nov 14, 2019, 10:43 AM  wrote:

  Thunberg

  -Original Message- 
  From: Robert Andrews
  Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2019 10:34 AM
  To: af@af.afmug.com
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Greta

  Greta?

  On 11/14/2019 09:15 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
  > Every time Greta goes somewhere, I am going to calculate the distance, 
  > multiply it by 2691 BTU per mile.
  > Divide that by 139000 and we have gallons of diesel.
  >
  > So say she is boating from somewhere in South America to Spain.
  > Perhaps 3000 miles of airline flight she avoided.
  > 3000*2691/139000=58 gallons.
  >
  > So I will get a kick starter campaign to donate 58 gallons of fuel to 
  > light the Greta memorial torch so everyone can see when she is on the 
  > move.
  >
  > We have to combat climate change!!!
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[AFMUG] Channelmaster Smartenna+

[Ken Hohhof]

Sounds like the cnMedusa of indoor TV antennas.  Anybody used one?  Are they
any good?  Or just a gimmick.

 

I got an email about a Black Friday deal $10 open box with free shipping on
Nov. 29 only.  Gotta wonder how many open box units they have, maybe just
one and they hope you'll buy one at regular price.  If they really have a
ton of open box units, and they're returns, that would indicate they might
not be a deal even at $10.  I also wonder how much beam steering you can do
at UHF frequencies with a small panel.  Most of those indoor TV antennas are
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Re: [AFMUG] Started a WISP discord server

[Josh Luthman]

Discord replaced Teamspeak and Ventrillo.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
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On Thu, Nov 14, 2019 at 11:51 AM Nate Burke  wrote:

> So I'm realizing that I'm quickly reaching the age where all this
> newfangled stuff is moving too fast.  I've never heard of Dischord before.
> A quick Google search, it looks like basically it's a paryline with the
> addition of texting?
>
> What's the draw?
>
> On 11/14/2019 10:44 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
>
> OK, not sure what to do with this.  I have it loaded on the phone now.
> Like to have a group of employees try it.  What is next?  They all add the
> app and then what?
> Create a server, join a server.  Just like to give it a quick try.
>
> *From:* Timothy Steele
> *Sent:* Thursday, November 14, 2019 8:58 AM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Started a WISP discord server
>
> Forgot to set invite link to never expire
>
> here is the new link https://discord.gg/JfcyhZg
>
> Thanks,
>
> On Thu, Nov 14, 2019 at 2:26 PM Timothy Steele 
> wrote:
>
>> That's odd
>>
>> I checked the settings again and not required
>>
>> Also have about 5 other users that joined just fine
>>
>> I'll keep looking into it but from what I'm reading ether you never
>> verified your discord email, failed that captcha or discord flagged your
>> account
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 14, 2019, 1:39 PM  wrote:
>>
>>> > Started a WISP discord server
>>> > If anyone wants to check it out
>>>   Requires a phone number to access. Screw that.
>>>
>>> Jared
>>>
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Re: [AFMUG] Started a WISP discord server

[Josh Luthman]

If you want to do just a single workspace (ie just WISPs/AFMUG) you can use
a browser.  For multiple workspaces (in my case AFMUG + Imagine Networks +
powercode community) you have to have the app (Windows/MAC/android/iphone).

I've ran it for a few months now and it seems perfectly fine.  Chrome
easily is my biggest issue with using every bit of memory that I have
available.  Moderate...idk...never have a problem in either of mine.

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On Thu, Nov 14, 2019 at 11:21 AM Timothy Steele 
wrote:

> would do slack if it was free and not a huge system hog and hard to
> moderate
>
> if someone finds a way to do it I agree it would be cool though
>
> On Fri, Nov 15, 2019 at 12:16 AM Josh Luthman 
> wrote:
>
>> I'd probably do a WISP Slack since I already have it running for
>> Powercode/my company.  I'm not doing another program - especially Discord.
>> Just my thoughts.
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 14, 2019 at 11:06 AM Chuck McCown  wrote:
>>
>>> App download is a bit slower than plate tectonics .
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Nov 14, 2019, at 8:59 AM, Timothy Steele 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>> Forgot to set invite link to never expire
>>>
>>> here is the new link https://discord.gg/JfcyhZg
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> On Thu, Nov 14, 2019 at 2:26 PM Timothy Steele 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 That's odd

 I checked the settings again and not required

 Also have about 5 other users that joined just fine

 I'll keep looking into it but from what I'm reading ether you never
 verified your discord email, failed that captcha or discord flagged your
 account

 On Thu, Nov 14, 2019, 1:39 PM  wrote:

> > Started a WISP discord server
> > If anyone wants to check it out
>   Requires a phone number to access. Screw that.
>
> Jared
>
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Re: [AFMUG] Channelmaster Smartenna+

[Josh Luthman]

I'm curious as well.  Are you saying the total cost is $10 with free
shipping?  Is that on their website or Amazon?

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On Thu, Nov 14, 2019 at 1:10 PM Ken Hohhof  wrote:

> Sounds like the cnMedusa of indoor TV antennas.  Anybody used one?  Are
> they any good?  Or just a gimmick.
>
>
>
> I got an email about a Black Friday deal $10 open box with free shipping
> on Nov. 29 only.  Gotta wonder how many open box units they have, maybe
> just one and they hope you’ll buy one at regular price.  If they really
> have a ton of open box units, and they’re returns, that would indicate they
> might not be a deal even at $10.  I also wonder how much beam steering you
> can do at UHF frequencies with a small panel.  Most of those indoor TV
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Re: [AFMUG] Channelmaster Smartenna+

[Bill Prince]

  
  
Indoor antennas are a real crapshoot. Where we are, they are all
  very limited due to walls and such.
Several years ago we got a Winegard Flatwave (https://winegard.com/products/hdtv-digital-antennas/vhf-uhf-antennas/flatwave/flatwave-air).
  It works great as almost all the stations we can receive are
  within about a 3-5 degree azimuth. Last time I did a channel scan,
  we picked up 60 or so channels. It's also very compact (about 1
  foot square, and maybe 3 inches thick).


bp



On 11/14/2019 10:09 AM, Ken Hohhof
  wrote:


  
  
  
  
Sounds like the cnMedusa of indoor TV
  antennas.  Anybody used one?  Are they any good?  Or just a
  gimmick.
 
I got an email about a Black Friday deal
  $10 open box with free shipping on Nov. 29 only.  Gotta wonder
  how many open box units they have, maybe just one and they
  hope you’ll buy one at regular price.  If they really have a
  ton of open box units, and they’re returns, that would
  indicate they might not be a deal even at $10.  I also wonder
  how much beam steering you can do at UHF frequencies with a
  small panel.  Most of those indoor TV antennas are omnis.
  
  
  

  


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Re: [AFMUG] Channelmaster Smartenna+

[chuck]

We need someone to do a tear down.  Problem is, how does the antenna know which 
channel you want to watch.  We don’t all have the luxury of all the channels 
coming from only one direction.  At most, it is taking some kind of aggregate 
RF level and perhaps tweaking some elements to maximize that number.  

From: Ken Hohhof 
Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2019 11:09 AM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' 
Subject: [AFMUG] Channelmaster Smartenna+

Sounds like the cnMedusa of indoor TV antennas.  Anybody used one?  Are they 
any good?  Or just a gimmick.

 

I got an email about a Black Friday deal $10 open box with free shipping on 
Nov. 29 only.  Gotta wonder how many open box units they have, maybe just one 
and they hope you’ll buy one at regular price.  If they really have a ton of 
open box units, and they’re returns, that would indicate they might not be a 
deal even at $10.  I also wonder how much beam steering you can do at UHF 
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Re: [AFMUG] Channelmaster Smartenna+

[Ken Hohhof]

https://www.channelmaster.com/Smartenna_Open_Box_p/cm-3001hdr.htm

 

Email says 85% off $10 free shipping standard ground continental US Nov. 29 
while supplies last one per customer.  I guess maybe the price will change on 
Nov. 29.

 

 

From: AF  On Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2019 12:14 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Channelmaster Smartenna+

 

I'm curious as well.  Are you saying the total cost is $10 with free shipping?  
Is that on their website or Amazon?

 

Josh Luthman

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Direct: 937-552-2343
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On Thu, Nov 14, 2019 at 1:10 PM Ken Hohhof mailto:af...@kwisp.com> > wrote:

Sounds like the cnMedusa of indoor TV antennas.  Anybody used one?  Are they 
any good?  Or just a gimmick.

 

I got an email about a Black Friday deal $10 open box with free shipping on 
Nov. 29 only.  Gotta wonder how many open box units they have, maybe just one 
and they hope you’ll buy one at regular price.  If they really have a ton of 
open box units, and they’re returns, that would indicate they might not be a 
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Re: [AFMUG] Started a WISP discord server

[dave via AF]

OMG.. Teamspeak still rocks..
Uhg quick re-inventing the wheel


On 11/14/19 12:10 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:

Discord replaced Teamspeak and Ventrillo.

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On Thu, Nov 14, 2019 at 11:51 AM Nate Burke > wrote:


So I'm realizing that I'm quickly reaching the age where all this
newfangled stuff is moving too fast.  I've never heard of Dischord
before.  A quick Google search, it looks like basically it's a
paryline with the addition of texting?

What's the draw?

On 11/14/2019 10:44 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com 
wrote:

OK, not sure what to do with this.  I have it loaded on the phone
now.
Like to have a group of employees try it.  What is next?  They
all add the app and then what?
Create a server, join a server.  Just like to give it a quick try.
*From:* Timothy Steele
*Sent:* Thursday, November 14, 2019 8:58 AM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Started a WISP discord server
Forgot to set invite link to never expire
here is the new link https://discord.gg/JfcyhZg
Thanks,
On Thu, Nov 14, 2019 at 2:26 PM Timothy Steele
 wrote:

That's odd
I checked the settings again and not required
Also have about 5 other users that joined just fine
I'll keep looking into it but from what I'm reading ether you
never verified your discord email, failed that captcha or
discord flagged your account
On Thu, Nov 14, 2019, 1:39 PM  wrote:

> Started a WISP discord server
> If anyone wants to check it out
  Requires a phone number to access. Screw that.

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Re: [AFMUG] Started a WISP discord server

[Dan Parrish]

It's sneaky, but Discord is much, much larger than slack. In April it was about 
250M discord users to 10M slack users. There are features in slack that make 
for a pretty good collaboration for working groups, but discord does a pretty 
good job at what it does.

Here's a cnbc video from earlier this year:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNJ2n6XKmmA

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On 11/14/2019 10:15 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:
I'd probably do a WISP Slack since I already have it running for Powercode/my 
company.  I'm not doing another program - especially Discord.  Just my thoughts.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373


On Thu, Nov 14, 2019 at 11:06 AM Chuck McCown 
mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote:
App download is a bit slower than plate tectonics .

Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 14, 2019, at 8:59 AM, Timothy Steele 
mailto:timothy.pct...@gmail.com>> wrote:


Forgot to set invite link to never expire

here is the new link https://discord.gg/JfcyhZg

Thanks,

On Thu, Nov 14, 2019 at 2:26 PM Timothy Steele 
mailto:timothy.pct...@gmail.com>> wrote:
That's odd

I checked the settings again and not required

Also have about 5 other users that joined just fine

I'll keep looking into it but from what I'm reading ether you never verified 
your discord email, failed that captcha or discord flagged your account

On Thu, Nov 14, 2019, 1:39 PM mailto:fiber...@mail.com>> 
wrote:
> Started a WISP discord server
> If anyone wants to check it out
  Requires a phone number to access. Screw that.

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Re: [AFMUG] Started a WISP discord server

[Robert Andrews]

more doesn't mean it better fits the needs

On 11/14/2019 01:02 PM, Dan Parrish wrote:
It's sneaky, but Discord is much, much larger than slack. In April it 
was about 250M discord users to 10M slack users. There are features in 
slack that make for a pretty good collaboration for working groups, but 
discord does a pretty good job at what it does.


Here's a cnbc video from earlier this year:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNJ2n6XKmmA

--dan



On 11/14/2019 10:15 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:
I'd probably do a WISP Slack since I already have it running for 
Powercode/my company.  I'm not doing another program - especially 
Discord.  Just my thoughts.


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Direct: 937-552-2343
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Suite 1337
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On Thu, Nov 14, 2019 at 11:06 AM Chuck McCown > wrote:


App download is a bit slower than plate tectonics .

Sent from my iPhone


On Nov 14, 2019, at 8:59 AM, Timothy Steele
mailto:timothy.pct...@gmail.com>> wrote:


Forgot to set invite link to never expire

here is the new link https://discord.gg/JfcyhZg

Thanks,

On Thu, Nov 14, 2019 at 2:26 PM Timothy Steele
mailto:timothy.pct...@gmail.com>> wrote:

That's odd

I checked the settings again and not required

Also have about 5 other users that joined just fine

I'll keep looking into it but from what I'm reading ether you
never verified your discord email, failed that captcha or
discord flagged your account

On Thu, Nov 14, 2019, 1:39 PM mailto:fiber...@mail.com>> wrote:

> Started a WISP discord server
> If anyone wants to check it out
  Requires a phone number to access. Screw that.

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Re: [AFMUG] Started a WISP discord server

[Mike Hammett]

Discord, Slack, Microsoft Teams, etc. are all just new versions of IRC. 


TBW has a Patreon-supported Slack. 




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- Original Message -

From: ch...@wbmfg.com 
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group"  
Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2019 10:44:10 AM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Started a WISP discord server 




OK, not sure what to do with this. I have it loaded on the phone now. 
Like to have a group of employees try it. What is next? They all add the app 
and then what? 
Create a server, join a server. Just like to give it a quick try. 




From: Timothy Steele 
Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2019 8:58 AM 
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Started a WISP discord server 


Forgot to set invite link to never expire 

here is the new link https://discord.gg/JfcyhZg 

Thanks, 


On Thu, Nov 14, 2019 at 2:26 PM Timothy Steele < timothy.pct...@gmail.com > 
wrote: 



That's odd 

I checked the settings again and not required 

Also have about 5 other users that joined just fine 

I'll keep looking into it but from what I'm reading ether you never verified 
your discord email, failed that captcha or discord flagged your account 


On Thu, Nov 14, 2019, 1:39 PM < fiber...@mail.com > wrote: 


> Started a WISP discord server 
> If anyone wants to check it out 
Requires a phone number to access. Screw that. 

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Re: [AFMUG] Greta

[Steve Jones]

I feel bad for her, autistic, child tool of adults agenda, trained to use a
mental illness to her advantage while denying it is a mental illness. Id
like to smack the adults puppeting her around and let her finish being a
kid before she gets jaded by her politics


On Thu, Nov 14, 2019 at 11:51 AM  wrote:

> Has the face of many scary school teachers.  Makes me flinch...
>
> *From:* Jaime Solorza
> *Sent:* Thursday, November 14, 2019 10:48 AM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Greta
>
> She scares youlol
>
> On Thu, Nov 14, 2019, 10:43 AM  wrote:
>
>> Thunberg
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Robert Andrews
>> Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2019 10:34 AM
>> To: af@af.afmug.com
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Greta
>>
>> Greta?
>>
>> On 11/14/2019 09:15 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
>> > Every time Greta goes somewhere, I am going to calculate the distance,
>> > multiply it by 2691 BTU per mile.
>> > Divide that by 139000 and we have gallons of diesel.
>> >
>> > So say she is boating from somewhere in South America to Spain.
>> > Perhaps 3000 miles of airline flight she avoided.
>> > 3000*2691/139000=58 gallons.
>> >
>> > So I will get a kick starter campaign to donate 58 gallons of fuel to
>> > light the Greta memorial torch so everyone can see when she is on the
>> > move.
>> >
>> > We have to combat climate change!!!
>> >
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Re: [AFMUG] Started a WISP discord server

[Steve Jones]

just go back to HAM if you actually want to talk to somebody. I hate all
this stuff that leaves no footprint for historical reference. mailing lists
and user forums is all there needs to be
get off my lawn

On Thu, Nov 14, 2019 at 4:20 PM Mike Hammett  wrote:

> Discord, Slack, Microsoft Teams, etc. are all just new versions of IRC.
>
> TBW has a Patreon-supported Slack.
>
>
>
> -
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> Intelligent Computing Solutions 
> 
> 
> 
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> 
> 
> 
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> 
>
>
> 
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> *From: *ch...@wbmfg.com
> *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" 
> *Sent: *Thursday, November 14, 2019 10:44:10 AM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Started a WISP discord server
>
> OK, not sure what to do with this.  I have it loaded on the phone now.
> Like to have a group of employees try it.  What is next?  They all add the
> app and then what?
> Create a server, join a server.  Just like to give it a quick try.
>
> *From:* Timothy Steele
> *Sent:* Thursday, November 14, 2019 8:58 AM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Started a WISP discord server
>
> Forgot to set invite link to never expire
>
> here is the new link https://discord.gg/JfcyhZg
>
> Thanks,
>
> On Thu, Nov 14, 2019 at 2:26 PM Timothy Steele 
> wrote:
>
>> That's odd
>>
>> I checked the settings again and not required
>>
>> Also have about 5 other users that joined just fine
>>
>> I'll keep looking into it but from what I'm reading ether you never
>> verified your discord email, failed that captcha or discord flagged your
>> account
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 14, 2019, 1:39 PM  wrote:
>>
>>> > Started a WISP discord server
>>> > If anyone wants to check it out
>>>   Requires a phone number to access. Screw that.
>>>
>>> Jared
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Re: [AFMUG] Started a WISP discord server

[Mike Hammett]

There's probably about 20k - 30k pigs on the 2 miles of road that I live on. 
That's a lot of ham. 




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- Original Message -

From: "Steve Jones"  
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group"  
Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2019 4:26:59 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Started a WISP discord server 


just go back to HAM if you actually want to talk to somebody. I hate all this 
stuff that leaves no footprint for historical reference. mailing lists and user 
forums is all there needs to be 
get off my lawn 


On Thu, Nov 14, 2019 at 4:20 PM Mike Hammett < af...@ics-il.net > wrote: 




Discord, Slack, Microsoft Teams, etc. are all just new versions of IRC. 


TBW has a Patreon-supported Slack. 




- 
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From: ch...@wbmfg.com 
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" < af@af.afmug.com > 
Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2019 10:44:10 AM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Started a WISP discord server 




OK, not sure what to do with this. I have it loaded on the phone now. 
Like to have a group of employees try it. What is next? They all add the app 
and then what? 
Create a server, join a server. Just like to give it a quick try. 




From: Timothy Steele 
Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2019 8:58 AM 
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Started a WISP discord server 


Forgot to set invite link to never expire 

here is the new link https://discord.gg/JfcyhZg 

Thanks, 


On Thu, Nov 14, 2019 at 2:26 PM Timothy Steele < timothy.pct...@gmail.com > 
wrote: 



That's odd 

I checked the settings again and not required 

Also have about 5 other users that joined just fine 

I'll keep looking into it but from what I'm reading ether you never verified 
your discord email, failed that captcha or discord flagged your account 


On Thu, Nov 14, 2019, 1:39 PM < fiber...@mail.com > wrote: 


> Started a WISP discord server 
> If anyone wants to check it out 
Requires a phone number to access. Screw that. 

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Re: [AFMUG] Started a WISP discord server

[Steve Jones]

m bacon


On Thu, Nov 14, 2019 at 4:31 PM Mike Hammett  wrote:

> There's probably about 20k - 30k pigs on the 2 miles of road that I live
> on. That's a lot of ham.
>
>
>
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> *From: *"Steve Jones" 
> *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" 
> *Sent: *Thursday, November 14, 2019 4:26:59 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Started a WISP discord server
>
> just go back to HAM if you actually want to talk to somebody. I hate all
> this stuff that leaves no footprint for historical reference. mailing lists
> and user forums is all there needs to be
> get off my lawn
>
> On Thu, Nov 14, 2019 at 4:20 PM Mike Hammett  wrote:
>
>> Discord, Slack, Microsoft Teams, etc. are all just new versions of IRC.
>>
>> TBW has a Patreon-supported Slack.
>>
>>
>>
>> -
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Midwest Internet Exchange 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> The Brothers WISP 
>> 
>>
>>
>> 
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>> *From: *ch...@wbmfg.com
>> *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" 
>> *Sent: *Thursday, November 14, 2019 10:44:10 AM
>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Started a WISP discord server
>>
>> OK, not sure what to do with this.  I have it loaded on the phone now.
>> Like to have a group of employees try it.  What is next?  They all add
>> the app and then what?
>> Create a server, join a server.  Just like to give it a quick try.
>>
>> *From:* Timothy Steele
>> *Sent:* Thursday, November 14, 2019 8:58 AM
>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Started a WISP discord server
>>
>> Forgot to set invite link to never expire
>>
>> here is the new link https://discord.gg/JfcyhZg
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 14, 2019 at 2:26 PM Timothy Steele 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> That's odd
>>>
>>> I checked the settings again and not required
>>>
>>> Also have about 5 other users that joined just fine
>>>
>>> I'll keep looking into it but from what I'm reading ether you never
>>> verified your discord email, failed that captcha or discord flagged your
>>> account
>>>
>>> On Thu, Nov 14, 2019, 1:39 PM  wrote:
>>>
 > Started a WISP discord server
 > If anyone wants to check it out
   Requires a phone number to access. Screw that.

 Jared


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Re: [AFMUG] Greta

[Gino A. Villarini]

Mental illness?


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From: AF  on behalf of Steve Jones 

Reply-To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Date: Thursday, November 14, 2019 at 6:26 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Greta

I feel bad for her, autistic, child tool of adults agenda, trained to use a 
mental illness to her advantage while denying it is a mental illness. Id like 
to smack the adults puppeting her around and let her finish being a kid before 
she gets jaded by her politics


On Thu, Nov 14, 2019 at 11:51 AM mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> 
wrote:
Has the face of many scary school teachers.  Makes me flinch...

From: Jaime Solorza
Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2019 10:48 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Greta

She scares youlol

On Thu, Nov 14, 2019, 10:43 AM  wrote:
Thunberg

-Original Message-
From: Robert Andrews
Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2019 10:34 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Greta

Greta?

On 11/14/2019 09:15 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
> Every time Greta goes somewhere, I am going to calculate the distance,
> multiply it by 2691 BTU per mile.
> Divide that by 139000 and we have gallons of diesel.
>
> So say she is boating from somewhere in South America to Spain.
> Perhaps 3000 miles of airline flight she avoided.
> 3000*2691/139000=58 gallons.
>
> So I will get a kick starter campaign to donate 58 gallons of fuel to
> light the Greta memorial torch so everyone can see when she is on the
> move.
>
> We have to combat climate change!!!
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Re: [AFMUG] Greta

[Ken Hohhof]

When I was a kid, many kids were “nerdy”, “shy”, or “introverted”.  Now they 
would be “autistic” or “on the autism spectrum” or have “ASD”.  As anything 
with “spectrum” in the name, it can vary from minor to severe.  I think Gino is 
right, mental illness is incorrect terminology.

 

Some employers with boring or repetitive jobs that nonetheless must be done 
correctly with attention to detail have found that such people are ideal 
employees.  Like watchmakers that found out they didn’t want people with 20/20 
vison, they wanted nearsighted people.

 

The opposite situation is probably all the kids that are diagnosed with ADHD 
because teachers don’t want to deal with a kid who won’t sit quietly and shut 
up, and the helicopter parents take them to the doctor and put them on Ritalin. 
 Because big Pharma has a solution for every problem.  And class size is too 
big for teachers to deal with non conforming kids, and who wants to try old 
fashioned solutions like sending the kids out for recess to burn off energy.

 

Strange stuff, like have you noticed how many successful, creative, or big 
picture people are dyslexic?

 

 

From: AF  On Behalf Of Gino A. Villarini
Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2019 4:43 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Greta

 

Mental illness? 

 

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From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> > on behalf 
of Steve Jones mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> >
Reply-To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com> >
Date: Thursday, November 14, 2019 at 6:26 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com> >
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Greta

 

I feel bad for her, autistic, child tool of adults agenda, trained to use a 
mental illness to her advantage while denying it is a mental illness. Id like 
to smack the adults puppeting her around and let her finish being a kid before 
she gets jaded by her politics 

 

 

On Thu, Nov 14, 2019 at 11:51 AM mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com> > 
wrote:

Has the face of many scary school teachers.  Makes me flinch...

 

From: Jaime Solorza 

Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2019 10:48 AM

To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Greta

 

She scares youlol

 

On Thu, Nov 14, 2019, 10:43 AM mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com> > 
wrote:

Thunberg

-Original Message- 
From: Robert Andrews
Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2019 10:34 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com  
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Greta

Greta?

On 11/14/2019 09:15 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com   wrote:
> Every time Greta goes somewhere, I am going to calculate the distance, 
> multiply it by 2691 BTU per mile.
> Divide that by 139000 and we have gallons of diesel.
>
> So say she is boating from somewhere in South America to Spain.
> Perhaps 3000 miles of airline flight she avoided.
> 3000*2691/139000=58 gallons.
>
> So I will get a kick starter campaign to donate 58 gallons of fuel to 
> light the Greta memorial torch so everyone can see when she is on the 
> move.
>
> We have to combat climate change!!!
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Re: [AFMUG] Greta

[Richard Strittmatter]

As a parent of an “autistic” kid ( aspergers ), I never let the teachers treat 
him any different.

The only reason he has a “diagnosis” is that the teachers kept insisting 
something must be wrong because he didn’t do what they wanted.
I don’t believe in treating him different, and giving him “special” education 
requirements. I have always told them no, and he has excelled in classes 
related to reading, and history.
Granted he sucks at math, but hey, it is what it is.

This medical/education treatment of them as “special” is the reason for so many 
of them NOT succeeding, IMHO..

The real world isn’t nice, and handicapping them early by making them believe 
they can’t do it is wrong.

BTW, he wants to be an English teacher… lol

Richard

From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof
Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2019 5:11 PM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Greta

When I was a kid, many kids were “nerdy”, “shy”, or “introverted”.  Now they 
would be “autistic” or “on the autism spectrum” or have “ASD”.  As anything 
with “spectrum” in the name, it can vary from minor to severe.  I think Gino is 
right, mental illness is incorrect terminology.

Some employers with boring or repetitive jobs that nonetheless must be done 
correctly with attention to detail have found that such people are ideal 
employees.  Like watchmakers that found out they didn’t want people with 20/20 
vison, they wanted nearsighted people.

The opposite situation is probably all the kids that are diagnosed with ADHD 
because teachers don’t want to deal with a kid who won’t sit quietly and shut 
up, and the helicopter parents take them to the doctor and put them on Ritalin. 
 Because big Pharma has a solution for every problem.  And class size is too 
big for teachers to deal with non conforming kids, and who wants to try old 
fashioned solutions like sending the kids out for recess to burn off energy.

Strange stuff, like have you noticed how many successful, creative, or big 
picture people are dyslexic?


From: AF  On Behalf Of Gino A. Villarini
Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2019 4:43 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Greta

Mental illness?


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From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> on behalf of 
Steve Jones mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>>
Reply-To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
Date: Thursday, November 14, 2019 at 6:26 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Greta

I feel bad for her, autistic, child tool of adults agenda, trained to use a 
mental illness to her advantage while denying it is a mental illness. Id like 
to smack the adults puppeting her around and let her finish being a kid before 
she gets jaded by her politics


On Thu, Nov 14, 2019 at 11:51 AM mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> 
wrote:
Has the face of many scary school teachers.  Makes me flinch...

From: Jaime Solorza
Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2019 10:48 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Greta

She scares youlol

On Thu, Nov 14, 2019, 10:43 AM mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote:
Thunberg

-Original Message-
From: Robert Andrews
Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2019 10:34 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Greta

Greta?

On 11/14/2019 09:15 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
> Every time Greta goes somewhere, I am going to calculate the distance,
> multiply it by 2691 BTU per mile.
> Divide that by 139000 and we have gallons of diesel.
>
> So say she is boating from somewhere in South America to Spain.
> Perhaps 3000 miles of airline flight she avoided.
> 3000*2691/139000=58 gallons.
>
> So I will get a kick starter campaign to donate 58 gallons of fuel to
> light the Greta memorial torch so everyone can see when she is on the
> move.
>
> We have to combat climate change!!!
>

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Re: [AFMUG] Greta

[Jaime Solorza]

Bullshit...she stands on her own two feet...

On Thu, Nov 14, 2019, 3:25 PM Steve Jones  wrote:

> I feel bad for her, autistic, child tool of adults agenda, trained to use
> a mental illness to her advantage while denying it is a mental illness. Id
> like to smack the adults puppeting her around and let her finish being a
> kid before she gets jaded by her politics
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 14, 2019 at 11:51 AM  wrote:
>
>> Has the face of many scary school teachers.  Makes me flinch...
>>
>> *From:* Jaime Solorza
>> *Sent:* Thursday, November 14, 2019 10:48 AM
>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Greta
>>
>> She scares youlol
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 14, 2019, 10:43 AM  wrote:
>>
>>> Thunberg
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Robert Andrews
>>> Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2019 10:34 AM
>>> To: af@af.afmug.com
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Greta
>>>
>>> Greta?
>>>
>>> On 11/14/2019 09:15 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
>>> > Every time Greta goes somewhere, I am going to calculate the distance,
>>> > multiply it by 2691 BTU per mile.
>>> > Divide that by 139000 and we have gallons of diesel.
>>> >
>>> > So say she is boating from somewhere in South America to Spain.
>>> > Perhaps 3000 miles of airline flight she avoided.
>>> > 3000*2691/139000=58 gallons.
>>> >
>>> > So I will get a kick starter campaign to donate 58 gallons of fuel to
>>> > light the Greta memorial torch so everyone can see when she is on the
>>> > move.
>>> >
>>> > We have to combat climate change!!!
>>> >
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[AFMUG] Verizon Wholesale Contact

[Matt Hoppes]

Anyone have a wholesale contact at Verizon that can sell me Local Area Data 
Circuits?

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Re: [AFMUG] Verizon Wholesale Contact

[TJ Trout]

I might be able to assist through the wholesale channel, we are clec and
have worked with the wholesale guys before, if you want to inbox you A-Z's
and desired design I can engage them?

TJ Trout
Volt Broadband
AS62809

On Thu, Nov 14, 2019 at 6:53 PM Matt Hoppes <
mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote:

> Anyone have a wholesale contact at Verizon that can sell me Local Area
> Data Circuits?
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