Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Re: CnPulse sad

[Ken Hohhof]

I checked for that, but I’ll look closer.

 

From: AF  On Behalf Of Mathew Howard
Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2019 11:40 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Re: CnPulse sad

 

It looks like those are probably the same gland they're using on some of the 
new ePMP radios... the rubber part is spit, so you can get an RJ45 through it 
just fine.

 

On Wed, Sep 25, 2019 at 3:12 PM Ken Hohhof mailto:af...@kwisp.com> > wrote:

Matt, I think I just discovered another problem – do the glands really require 
that you crimp the RJ45 plug on the cable AFTER passing it through the gland?  
Ideally a shielded plug.

 

That’s more than inconvenient, I’m going to have to order something else.

 

 

From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> > On Behalf 
Of Matt Mangriotis via AF
Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2019 2:46 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com> >
Cc: Matt Mangriotis mailto:matt.mangrio...@cambiumnetworks.com> >
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Re: CnPulse sad

 

Just want to say THANK YOU for the feedback. I love reading this list every day…

 

Matt

 

From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> > On Behalf 
Of ch...@wbmfg.com  
Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2019 2:44 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com> >
Subject: [ External ] Re: [AFMUG] CnPulse sad

 

Yes, with universities having “cry closets” for our snowflake generation to use 
during finals, what would one expect.  

 

BTW, AFMUG is not a “safe space”, we do our best to “trigger” snowflakes and it 
could be best said that we are a “brave space”.

 

From: Nate Burke 

Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2019 1:37 PM

To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CnPulse sad

 

I'm sure they stopped doing that because all the sensitive engineers who are 
just out of college now can't handle being told that their ideas are bad.  

I think the last time they had an event which was similar was when the original 
god-awful EPMP 1000 dishes had just come out.  The meeting was in January, we 
had one with and tried to get the engineers to come out and assemble it on the 
tailgate in the parking lot with us.  They refused.  

On 9/25/2019 2:34 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com   wrote:

Way back in the day, Motorola would send some of us prototypes to test and give 
feedback on before they finalized the designs.

They used to also have groups of users voice opinions about the roadmap.

 

From: Eric Muehleisen 

Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2019 1:28 PM

To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CnPulse sad

 

I had the same head scratching moment with the uGPS before it was called the 
cnPulse. The design is awkward to say the least. It didn't have any idiot 
lights which was difficult for the tower crew to troubleshoot. We quickly 
removed it and went to a RackIjector. Best decision ever.

 

On Wed, Sep 25, 2019 at 2:11 PM Ken Hohhof mailto:af...@kwisp.com> > wrote:

We’ve always used PacketFlux sync products with Cambium radios, I have a 
somewhat unusual install involving a 450i and an omni and wanted AUX port sync 
and decided to try a CnPulse instead of ordering a Syncbox Jr. AUX port version.

 

Am I wrong, or did the Cambium team responsible for this product royally mess 
up?

 

1)  Big multilanguage instruction sheet, nowhere shows how to assemble or 
install the product.

 

2)  Instruction sheet has generic photo of Cambium radios installed at a tower 
but does not show a CnPulse.

 

3)  Bracket is stupid and for some reason they decided the cable glands should 
come out horizontally not at the bottom.

 

4)  Screws for attaching bracket (or flipping it around to mount on the 
opposite side of the pipe) require a T15 bit, because every tower climber 
carriers Torx bits.

 

5)  Label for which port is which is on the back where the bracket attaches.  
Yes there are also labels molded into the plastic housing, but the grey on grey 
is almost invisible.

 

The bracket is so stupid it’s tempting to just electrical tape the unit to the 
pipe.  Except if we pointed the cable glands down, would it still see the 
satellites?

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[AFMUG] Grounding again

[Gino A. Villarini]

So we have had lots of issues with blow radios recently during storms.

I do know that we are possibly causing them because we are using McCowns SS 
with Netonix switches.

So our long term plant is to fuse them, but in the meantime, should we connect 
the radios directly to the Netonix switches?

Should we ground the shielded cable shield or would the grounding of the radio 
would suffice?



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Re: [AFMUG] Grounding again

[Mathew Howard]

As I understand it, using an SS with a Netonix switch will blow the port on
the switch, but it isn't going to hurt the radio. If you connect the radios
directly to the Netonix, you might save the switch, but you'll be more
likely to lose the radio. I guess if the switch is on the ground, I'd say
it's worth risking the switch to maybe save a radio... and there's a good
chance you'll lose the switch if you don't have an SS anyway.

On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 8:45 AM Gino A. Villarini  wrote:

> So we have had lots of issues with blow radios recently during storms.
>
>
>
> I do know that we are possibly causing them because we are using McCowns
> SS with Netonix switches.
>
>
>
> So our long term plant is to fuse them, but in the meantime, should we
> connect the radios directly to the Netonix switches?
>
>
>
> Should we ground the shielded cable shield or would the grounding of the
> radio would suffice?
>
>
>
>
>
> *Gino*
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Re: [AFMUG] Grounding again

[Sean Heskett]

We switched to packetflux rack injectors and planet switches because the
netonix had such a high failure rate.

Knock on wood it’s been a rock solid solution.

But if you are using the netonix you need both the fuse card and grounding
card from mcowentech.

-Sean


On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 8:45 AM Gino A. Villarini  wrote:

> So we have had lots of issues with blow radios recently during storms.
>
>
>
> I do know that we are possibly causing them because we are using McCowns
> SS with Netonix switches.
>
>
>
> So our long term plant is to fuse them, but in the meantime, should we
> connect the radios directly to the Netonix switches?
>
>
>
> Should we ground the shielded cable shield or would the grounding of the
> radio would suffice?
>
>
>
>
>
> *Gino*
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Re: [AFMUG] 320AP POE Injectors

[Steve Jones]

Alvarion VL power supplies work

On Wed, Sep 25, 2019, 8:35 AM Colin Stanners  wrote:

> I believe that we have a lot of them.
>
> On Wed, Sep 25, 2019, 6:56 AM Paul McCall,  wrote:
>
>> Anybody have a couple 320AP POE Injectors they can part with?
>>
>>
>>
>> They are differently wired than standard -+  -+  on   4,5  7.8
>>
>>
>>
>> Looking for a few for tech vans for them to program APs in the field
>>
>>
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Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Re: CnPulse sad

[Steve Jones]

Cambium did recently relay to me a feedback issue is that they don't get
details. They get "this mount sucks" and "that gland is a piece of crap"
but no clear description of failure.

But in re the op, this is what you get for angering the WISP gods. One does
not simply turn away from packetflux without consequence. It's likely a
squirrel will chew cables in the near term and a plague of ants will infest
your enclosures

On Thu, Sep 26, 2019, 7:15 AM Ken Hohhof  wrote:

> I checked for that, but I’ll look closer.
>
>
>
> *From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *Mathew Howard
> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 25, 2019 11:40 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Re: CnPulse sad
>
>
>
> It looks like those are probably the same gland they're using on some of
> the new ePMP radios... the rubber part is spit, so you can get an RJ45
> through it just fine.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 25, 2019 at 3:12 PM Ken Hohhof  wrote:
>
> Matt, I think I just discovered another problem – do the glands really
> require that you crimp the RJ45 plug on the cable AFTER passing it through
> the gland?  Ideally a shielded plug.
>
>
>
> That’s more than inconvenient, I’m going to have to order something else.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *Matt Mangriotis via AF
> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 25, 2019 2:46 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
> *Cc:* Matt Mangriotis 
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Re: CnPulse sad
>
>
>
> Just want to say THANK YOU for the feedback. I love reading this list
> every day…
>
>
>
> Matt
>
>
>
> *From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *ch...@wbmfg.com
> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 25, 2019 2:44 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
> *Subject:* [ External ] Re: [AFMUG] CnPulse sad
>
>
>
> Yes, with universities having “cry closets” for our snowflake generation
> to use during finals, what would one expect.
>
>
>
> BTW, AFMUG is not a “safe space”, we do our best to “trigger” snowflakes
> and it could be best said that we are a “brave space”.
>
>
>
> *From:* Nate Burke
>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 25, 2019 1:37 PM
>
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] CnPulse sad
>
>
>
> I'm sure they stopped doing that because all the sensitive engineers who
> are just out of college now can't handle being told that their ideas are
> bad.
>
> I think the last time they had an event which was similar was when the
> original god-awful EPMP 1000 dishes had just come out.  The meeting was in
> January, we had one with and tried to get the engineers to come out and
> assemble it on the tailgate in the parking lot with us.  They refused.
>
> On 9/25/2019 2:34 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
>
> Way back in the day, Motorola would send some of us prototypes to test and
> give feedback on before they finalized the designs.
>
> They used to also have groups of users voice opinions about the roadmap.
>
>
>
> *From:* Eric Muehleisen
>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 25, 2019 1:28 PM
>
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] CnPulse sad
>
>
>
> I had the same head scratching moment with the uGPS before it was called
> the cnPulse. The design is awkward to say the least. It didn't have any
> idiot lights which was difficult for the tower crew to troubleshoot. We
> quickly removed it and went to a RackIjector. Best decision ever.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 25, 2019 at 2:11 PM Ken Hohhof  wrote:
>
> We’ve always used PacketFlux sync products with Cambium radios, I have a
> somewhat unusual install involving a 450i and an omni and wanted AUX port
> sync and decided to try a CnPulse instead of ordering a Syncbox Jr. AUX
> port version.
>
>
>
> Am I wrong, or did the Cambium team responsible for this product royally
> mess up?
>
>
>
> 1)  Big multilanguage instruction sheet, nowhere shows how to assemble or
> install the product.
>
>
>
> 2)  Instruction sheet has generic photo of Cambium radios installed at a
> tower but does not show a CnPulse.
>
>
>
> 3)  Bracket is stupid and for some reason they decided the cable glands
> should come out horizontally not at the bottom.
>
>
>
> 4)  Screws for attaching bracket (or flipping it around to mount on the
> opposite side of the pipe) require a T15 bit, because every tower climber
> carriers Torx bits.
>
>
>
> 5)  Label for which port is which is on the back where the bracket
> attaches.  Yes there are also labels molded into the plastic housing, but
> the grey on grey is almost invisible.
>
>
>
> The bracket is so stupid it’s tempting to just electrical tape the unit to
> the pipe.  Except if we pointed the cable glands down, would it still see
> the satellites?
>
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Re: [AFMUG] Grounding again

[Steve Jones]

I dont understand how netonix has such widespread use with the constand
issues i read about. are they just that cheap? low heat production? what is
it?

On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 11:51 AM Sean Heskett  wrote:

> We switched to packetflux rack injectors and planet switches because the
> netonix had such a high failure rate.
>
> Knock on wood it’s been a rock solid solution.
>
> But if you are using the netonix you need both the fuse card and grounding
> card from mcowentech.
>
> -Sean
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 8:45 AM Gino A. Villarini 
> wrote:
>
>> So we have had lots of issues with blow radios recently during storms.
>>
>>
>>
>> I do know that we are possibly causing them because we are using McCowns
>> SS with Netonix switches.
>>
>>
>>
>> So our long term plant is to fuse them, but in the meantime, should we
>> connect the radios directly to the Netonix switches?
>>
>>
>>
>> Should we ground the shielded cable shield or would the grounding of the
>> radio would suffice?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *Gino*
>> *Villarini *Founder/President
>> @gvillarini
>> t: 787.273.4143 Ext. 204
>> m:
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>> tw-logo]
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>>
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Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Re: CnPulse sad

[Chuck McCown]

They can ask for details.,..

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 26, 2019, at 1:29 PM, Steve Jones  wrote:
> 
> Cambium did recently relay to me a feedback issue is that they don't get 
> details. They get "this mount sucks" and "that gland is a piece of crap" but 
> no clear description of failure.
> 
> But in re the op, this is what you get for angering the WISP gods. One does 
> not simply turn away from packetflux without consequence. It's likely a 
> squirrel will chew cables in the near term and a plague of ants will infest 
> your enclosures
> 
>> On Thu, Sep 26, 2019, 7:15 AM Ken Hohhof  wrote:
>> I checked for that, but I’ll look closer.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> From: AF  On Behalf Of Mathew Howard
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2019 11:40 PM
>> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Re: CnPulse sad
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> It looks like those are probably the same gland they're using on some of the 
>> new ePMP radios... the rubber part is spit, so you can get an RJ45 through 
>> it just fine.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> On Wed, Sep 25, 2019 at 3:12 PM Ken Hohhof  wrote:
>> 
>> Matt, I think I just discovered another problem – do the glands really 
>> require that you crimp the RJ45 plug on the cable AFTER passing it through 
>> the gland?  Ideally a shielded plug.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> That’s more than inconvenient, I’m going to have to order something else.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> From: AF  On Behalf Of Matt Mangriotis via AF
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2019 2:46 PM
>> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
>> Cc: Matt Mangriotis 
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Re: CnPulse sad
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Just want to say THANK YOU for the feedback. I love reading this list every 
>> day…
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Matt
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> From: AF  On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2019 2:44 PM
>> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
>> Subject: [ External ] Re: [AFMUG] CnPulse sad
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Yes, with universities having “cry closets” for our snowflake generation to 
>> use during finals, what would one expect. 
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> BTW, AFMUG is not a “safe space”, we do our best to “trigger” snowflakes and 
>> it could be best said that we are a “brave space”.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> From: Nate Burke
>> 
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2019 1:37 PM
>> 
>> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>> 
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CnPulse sad
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> I'm sure they stopped doing that because all the sensitive engineers who are 
>> just out of college now can't handle being told that their ideas are bad.  
>> 
>> I think the last time they had an event which was similar was when the 
>> original god-awful EPMP 1000 dishes had just come out.  The meeting was in 
>> January, we had one with and tried to get the engineers to come out and 
>> assemble it on the tailgate in the parking lot with us.  They refused. 
>> 
>> On 9/25/2019 2:34 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
>> 
>> Way back in the day, Motorola would send some of us prototypes to test and 
>> give feedback on before they finalized the designs.
>> 
>> They used to also have groups of users voice opinions about the roadmap.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> From: Eric Muehleisen
>> 
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2019 1:28 PM
>> 
>> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>> 
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CnPulse sad
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> I had the same head scratching moment with the uGPS before it was called the 
>> cnPulse. The design is awkward to say the least. It didn't have any idiot 
>> lights which was difficult for the tower crew to troubleshoot. We quickly 
>> removed it and went to a RackIjector. Best decision ever.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> On Wed, Sep 25, 2019 at 2:11 PM Ken Hohhof  wrote:
>> 
>> We’ve always used PacketFlux sync products with Cambium radios, I have a 
>> somewhat unusual install involving a 450i and an omni and wanted AUX port 
>> sync and decided to try a CnPulse instead of ordering a Syncbox Jr. AUX port 
>> version.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Am I wrong, or did the Cambium team responsible for this product royally 
>> mess up?
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> 1)  Big multilanguage instruction sheet, nowhere shows how to assemble or 
>> install the product.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> 2)  Instruction sheet has generic photo of Cambium radios installed at a 
>> tower but does not show a CnPulse.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> 3)  Bracket is stupid and for some reason they decided the cable glands 
>> should come out horizontally not at the bottom.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> 4)  Screws for attaching bracket (or flipping it around to mount on the 
>> opposite side of the pipe) require a T15 bit, because every tower climber 
>> carriers Torx bits.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> 5)  Label for which port is which is on the back where the bracket attaches. 
>>  Yes there are also labels molded into the plastic housing, but the grey on 
>> grey is almost invisible.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> The bracket is so stupid it’s tempting to just electrical tape the unit to 
>> the pipe.  Except if we pointed the cable glands down, would it still se

Re: [AFMUG] Grounding again

[Chuck McCown]

They are wonderful switches.  And they will fix blown ports for $20.  I am 
surprised they have not adopted Forrest’s method of avoiding this issue.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 26, 2019, at 1:36 PM, Steve Jones  wrote:
> 
> I dont understand how netonix has such widespread use with the constand 
> issues i read about. are they just that cheap? low heat production? what is 
> it?
> 
>> On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 11:51 AM Sean Heskett  wrote:
>> We switched to packetflux rack injectors and planet switches because the 
>> netonix had such a high failure rate.
>> 
>> Knock on wood it’s been a rock solid solution.
>> 
>> But if you are using the netonix you need both the fuse card and grounding 
>> card from mcowentech.
>> 
>> -Sean
>> 
>> 
>>> On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 8:45 AM Gino A. Villarini  
>>> wrote:
>>> So we have had lots of issues with blow radios recently during storms.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> I do know that we are possibly causing them because we are using McCowns SS 
>>> with Netonix switches.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> So our long term plant is to fuse them, but in the meantime, should we 
>>> connect the radios directly to the Netonix switches?
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Should we ground the shielded cable shield or would the grounding of the 
>>> radio would suffice?
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
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[AFMUG] PON Combiner?

[Gino A. Villarini]

What passive device would I need to combiner a gpon and xgspon light sources? A 
normal 2x1 plc will do?

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Re: [AFMUG] PON Combiner?

[Louis Arsenault]

Yes

On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 4:39 PM Gino A. Villarini  wrote:

> What passive device would I need to combiner a gpon and xgspon light
> sources? A normal 2x1 plc will do?
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Re: [AFMUG] PON Combiner?

[Chuck McCown]

I think a simple 2:1 splitter would do.

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> On Sep 26, 2019, at 2:38 PM, Gino A. Villarini  wrote:
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> What passive device would I need to combiner a gpon and xgspon light sources? 
> A normal 2x1 plc will do?
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Re: [AFMUG] Grounding again

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It’s nice having switching and power in the same unit, just like it was
nice having a VCR built into your TV.

-Sean


On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 2:38 PM Steve Jones 
wrote:

> I dont understand how netonix has such widespread use with the constand
> issues i read about. are they just that cheap? low heat production? what is
> it?
>
> On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 11:51 AM Sean Heskett  wrote:
>
>> We switched to packetflux rack injectors and planet switches because the
>> netonix had such a high failure rate.
>>
>> Knock on wood it’s been a rock solid solution.
>>
>> But if you are using the netonix you need both the fuse card and
>> grounding card from mcowentech.
>>
>> -Sean
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 8:45 AM Gino A. Villarini 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> So we have had lots of issues with blow radios recently during storms.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I do know that we are possibly causing them because we are using McCowns
>>> SS with Netonix switches.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> So our long term plant is to fuse them, but in the meantime, should we
>>> connect the radios directly to the Netonix switches?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Should we ground the shielded cable shield or would the grounding of the
>>> radio would suffice?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: [AFMUG] Grounding again

[Bill Prince]

  
  
I hated those.


bp



On 9/26/2019 2:00 PM, Sean Heskett
  wrote:


  It’s nice having switching and power in the same unit, just like it was
nice having a VCR built into your TV.

-Sean


On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 2:38 PM Steve Jones 
wrote:


  
I dont understand how netonix has such widespread use with the constand
issues i read about. are they just that cheap? low heat production? what is
it?

On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 11:51 AM Sean Heskett  wrote:



  We switched to packetflux rack injectors and planet switches because the
netonix had such a high failure rate.

Knock on wood it’s been a rock solid solution.

But if you are using the netonix you need both the fuse card and
grounding card from mcowentech.

-Sean


On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 8:45 AM Gino A. Villarini 
wrote:


  
So we have had lots of issues with blow radios recently during storms.



I do know that we are possibly causing them because we are using McCowns
SS with Netonix switches.



So our long term plant is to fuse them, but in the meantime, should we
connect the radios directly to the Netonix switches?



Should we ground the shielded cable shield or would the grounding of the
radio would suffice?





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Re: [AFMUG] Grounding again

[dave via AF]

Gino,
 R56 usually states for data lines that the shield be grounded aprox 3' 
from radio entry port or surge protection on tower and duplicate for the 
down stairs.
The idea is to pull off as much un-wanted energy from the cable to 
ground. Also,consider using Surge protection devices such as Chuck's 
gear to help with any line surges.


We do this as a standard on all new and any updates we do on our sites.
We have recently started using Cat6 for our latest project using only 
superior Essex as it has the added rigid copper jacket with outer and 
inner pvc jacket which makes it very rigid for vertical install and 
cambium makes some awesome ground kits for it.




On 9/26/19 8:45 AM, Gino A. Villarini wrote:


So we have had lots of issues with blow radios recently during storms.

I do know that we are possibly causing them because we are using 
McCowns SS with Netonix switches.


So our long term plant is to fuse them, but in the meantime, should we 
connect the radios directly to the Netonix switches?


Should we ground the shielded cable shield or would the grounding of 
the radio would suffice?


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Re: [AFMUG] Grounding again

[Gino A. Villarini]

Are you using Netonix switches?

From: AF  on behalf of dave via AF 
Reply-To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Date: Thursday, September 26, 2019 at 6:16 PM
To: "af@af.afmug.com" 
Cc: David Milholen 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Grounding again

Gino,
 R56 usually states for data lines that the shield be grounded aprox 3' from 
radio entry port or surge protection on tower and duplicate for the down stairs.
The idea is to pull off as much un-wanted energy from the cable to ground. 
Also,consider using Surge protection devices such as Chuck's gear to help with 
any line surges.

We do this as a standard on all new and any updates we do on our sites.
We have recently started using Cat6 for our latest project using only superior 
Essex as it has the added rigid copper jacket with outer and inner pvc jacket 
which makes it very rigid for vertical install and cambium makes some awesome 
ground kits for it.


On 9/26/19 8:45 AM, Gino A. Villarini wrote:
So we have had lots of issues with blow radios recently during storms.

I do know that we are possibly causing them because we are using McCowns SS 
with Netonix switches.

So our long term plant is to fuse them, but in the meantime, should we connect 
the radios directly to the Netonix switches?

Should we ground the shielded cable shield or would the grounding of the radio 
would suffice?



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Re: [AFMUG] PON Combiner?

[Gino A. Villarini]

thanks

From: AF  on behalf of Chuck McCown 
Reply-To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Date: Thursday, September 26, 2019 at 4:45 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PON Combiner?

I think a simple 2:1 splitter would do.
Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 26, 2019, at 2:38 PM, Gino A. Villarini 
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What passive device would I need to combiner a gpon and xgspon light sources? A 
normal 2x1 plc will do?

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Re: [AFMUG] PON Combiner?

[Gino A. Villarini]

Thanks

From: AF  on behalf of Louis Arsenault 

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Date: Thursday, September 26, 2019 at 4:44 PM
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Yes

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Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Re: CnPulse sad

[Ken Hohhof]

I was (mostly) wrong in criticizing the glands.  My tech looked at it and 
pointed out it’s the same type gland as on the 450b, and it is split (if you 
know the secret).  I’m not saying he likes them, but they’re not as bad as I 
thought.

 

 

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Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2019 2:45 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Re: CnPulse sad

 

They can ask for details.,..

Sent from my iPhone


On Sep 26, 2019, at 1:29 PM, Steve Jones mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Cambium did recently relay to me a feedback issue is that they don't get 
details. They get "this mount sucks" and "that gland is a piece of crap" but no 
clear description of failure.

 

But in re the op, this is what you get for angering the WISP gods. One does not 
simply turn away from packetflux without consequence. It's likely a squirrel 
will chew cables in the near term and a plague of ants will infest your 
enclosures

 

On Thu, Sep 26, 2019, 7:15 AM Ken Hohhof mailto:af...@kwisp.com> > wrote:

I checked for that, but I’ll look closer.

 

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Of Mathew Howard
Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2019 11:40 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com> >
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Re: CnPulse sad

 

It looks like those are probably the same gland they're using on some of the 
new ePMP radios... the rubber part is spit, so you can get an RJ45 through it 
just fine.

 

On Wed, Sep 25, 2019 at 3:12 PM Ken Hohhof mailto:af...@kwisp.com> > wrote:

Matt, I think I just discovered another problem – do the glands really require 
that you crimp the RJ45 plug on the cable AFTER passing it through the gland?  
Ideally a shielded plug.

 

That’s more than inconvenient, I’m going to have to order something else.

 

 

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Of Matt Mangriotis via AF
Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2019 2:46 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com> >
Cc: Matt Mangriotis mailto:matt.mangrio...@cambiumnetworks.com> >
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Re: CnPulse sad

 

Just want to say THANK YOU for the feedback. I love reading this list every day…

 

Matt

 

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Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2019 2:44 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com> >
Subject: [ External ] Re: [AFMUG] CnPulse sad

 

Yes, with universities having “cry closets” for our snowflake generation to use 
during finals, what would one expect.  

 

BTW, AFMUG is not a “safe space”, we do our best to “trigger” snowflakes and it 
could be best said that we are a “brave space”.

 

From: Nate Burke 

Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2019 1:37 PM

To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CnPulse sad

 

I'm sure they stopped doing that because all the sensitive engineers who are 
just out of college now can't handle being told that their ideas are bad.  

I think the last time they had an event which was similar was when the original 
god-awful EPMP 1000 dishes had just come out.  The meeting was in January, we 
had one with and tried to get the engineers to come out and assemble it on the 
tailgate in the parking lot with us.  They refused.  

On 9/25/2019 2:34 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com   wrote:

Way back in the day, Motorola would send some of us prototypes to test and give 
feedback on before they finalized the designs.

They used to also have groups of users voice opinions about the roadmap.

 

From: Eric Muehleisen 

Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2019 1:28 PM

To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CnPulse sad

 

I had the same head scratching moment with the uGPS before it was called the 
cnPulse. The design is awkward to say the least. It didn't have any idiot 
lights which was difficult for the tower crew to troubleshoot. We quickly 
removed it and went to a RackIjector. Best decision ever.

 

On Wed, Sep 25, 2019 at 2:11 PM Ken Hohhof mailto:af...@kwisp.com> > wrote:

We’ve always used PacketFlux sync products with Cambium radios, I have a 
somewhat unusual install involving a 450i and an omni and wanted AUX port sync 
and decided to try a CnPulse instead of ordering a Syncbox Jr. AUX port version.

 

Am I wrong, or did the Cambium team responsible for this product royally mess 
up?

 

1)  Big multilanguage instruction sheet, nowhere shows how to assemble or 
install the product.

 

2)  Instruction sheet has generic photo of Cambium radios installed at a tower 
but does not show a CnPulse.

 

3)  Bracket is stupid and for some reason they decided the cable glands should 
come out horizontally not at the bottom.

 

4)  Screws for attaching bracket (or flipping it around to mount on the 
opposite side of the pipe) require a T15 bit, because every tower climber 
carriers Torx bits.