Re: TSM 5.3 web gui
On Tuesday 07 March 2006 08:42, Volker Maibaum wrote: > Hi, > > I would also agree to that! The opening of the API to the community > would be the best IBM could do. > We have here one TSM Server and I (as the administrator) do most of the > work in the command-line. We have some people in the operating that also > do a few things like drm, querying processes, etc in the gui. It doesn't > make sense to put up a new server running websphere for this. With an > open API it would be easy to make a fast web tool fitting out needs. > > The IBM has proved that they are not able to build useful user > interfaces. I just have to look at how they do server virtualization. > When you use vmware esx server you have one consistent quite fast web > interface for all tasks you need (running on the same server). When you > use a p550 for virtualization you have a HMC server with an ugly, slow > and unstable Java GUI, a command-line over ssh on the HMC, an extra web > gui for the ASM menu and a VIO server with command-line (with a shell > were you can't use backspace by default and where the up-key doesn't > show the last command). VIO speaking, try the command oem_setup_env and have fun with your real root login ;) Stef
Re: TSM 5.3 web gui
> VIO speaking, try the command oem_setup_env and have fun with your real root > login ;) I already did this. First of all I disabled ftp, telnet, etc. and activated ssh (should be default in my opinion) and then I updated the padmin profile to support backspace,... (should also be default..). But I don't want to make to many changes, as I don't want to get into trouble with software maintenance. regards, Volker
Re: Undo archconversion
Hi Chris! What server and client level are you using? Kindest regards, Eric van Loon KLM Royal Dutch Airlines -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Christoph Pilgram Sent: dinsdag 7 maart 2006 7:39 To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Undo archconversion Hi all, During "expire inventory" sometimes following error-message is written : ANR0106E imarqry.c(4996): Unexpected error 2 fetching row in table "Archive.Objects". When I recocnize this message I do an 'undo archconversion - convert archive' for that node. Because this always happens only on one of my unix-clients I would like to know, where this problem comes from and how to permanently fix it. It happens normaly with new archives on that node. When this message comes up, some archives are not displaied when I use the GUI. Thanks for help Chris ** For information, services and offers, please visit our web site: http://www.klm.com. This e-mail and any attachment may contain confidential and privileged material intended for the addressee only. If you are not the addressee, you are notified that no part of the e-mail or any attachment may be disclosed, copied or distributed, and that any other action related to this e-mail or attachment is strictly prohibited, and may be unlawful. If you have received this e-mail by error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, and delete this message. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij NV (KLM), its subsidiaries and/or its employees shall not be liable for the incorrect or incomplete transmission of this e-mail or any attachments, nor responsible for any delay in receipt. **
Re: TSM 5.3 web gui
Hi! I totally agree with Richard. I myself was participating in the TSM 5.3 beta program. During this beta a lot (and I really mean a lot) of the people in the beta forum where complaining about ISC and the ISC concept. It wasn't even working in the beginning, it required a powerful server with at least 2 Gb. of memory and those who managed to make it work, complained about the interface and the very slow response. One would think if that if an interface design project team sees the end result of their work, they would take a few steps back, think and say to each other: "Hey, we should drop the idea and not release this to the public". But they didn't. They even ignored all the bad feedback they received from the beta community! I see similar interface design for other IBM products (like the SAN Volume Controller) which is far from intuitive. I wonder if IBM even asks customers to evaluate new interfaces. I doubt it... Kindest regards, Eric van Loon > Straying from such basic objectives, and becoming distracted by "architecture", results in designs which satisfy only designers...who must think that there's something wrong with the end users if they don't appreciate how wonderful the design is. ** For information, services and offers, please visit our web site: http://www.klm.com. This e-mail and any attachment may contain confidential and privileged material intended for the addressee only. If you are not the addressee, you are notified that no part of the e-mail or any attachment may be disclosed, copied or distributed, and that any other action related to this e-mail or attachment is strictly prohibited, and may be unlawful. If you have received this e-mail by error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, and delete this message. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij NV (KLM), its subsidiaries and/or its employees shall not be liable for the incorrect or incomplete transmission of this e-mail or any attachments, nor responsible for any delay in receipt. **
Re: TS3310 with TSM 5.3.2.0 on W2K3.
Robert, Have you downloaded the IBM Tape drivers. I know that generally, these drivers are only mentioned when in conjunction with LTO tape drives, however they also come with the following files that relate to the medium changers. Ibmcgbs2k3.sys Ibmcg2k3.sys Ibmcgft2k3.sys You can download the zip file from ftp://ftp.software.ibm.com/storage/devdrvr/Windows/Win2003/Latest/ Leigh -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Clark Sent: 07 March 2006 04:28 To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: [ADSM-L] TS3310 with TSM 5.3.2.0 on W2K3. Has anyone had any luck getting a TS3310 working with TSM 5.3.2.0 on W2K3 EE SP1? When I get to the point that I'm configuring devices on the TSM console, I get error message ANRE2080. Various docs seem to indicate that the TS3310/3576 is supported on 5.3.2.0. It appears that TSM Device Driver doesn't recognize the media changer. Something similar to IC34862. Any ideas? Confidentiality Notice: The content of this communication, along with any attachments, is covered by federal and state law governing electronic communications and may contain confidential and legally privileged information. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, use or copying of the information contained herein is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please immediately contact us by email at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank you
AW: Undo archconversion
Hi, Client-version on that node is 5.2.2.0 (HP-UX 11.11), server is 5.2.4.3 (AIX 5.2 ML06) Best wishes Chris -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Gesendet: Dienstag, 7. März 2006 10:19 An: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Betreff: Re: Undo archconversion Hi Chris! What server and client level are you using? Kindest regards, Eric van Loon KLM Royal Dutch Airlines -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Christoph Pilgram Sent: dinsdag 7 maart 2006 7:39 To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Undo archconversion Hi all, During "expire inventory" sometimes following error-message is written : ANR0106E imarqry.c(4996): Unexpected error 2 fetching row in table "Archive.Objects". When I recocnize this message I do an 'undo archconversion - convert archive' for that node. Because this always happens only on one of my unix-clients I would like to know, where this problem comes from and how to permanently fix it. It happens normaly with new archives on that node. When this message comes up, some archives are not displaied when I use the GUI. Thanks for help Chris ** For information, services and offers, please visit our web site: http://www.klm.com. This e-mail and any attachment may contain confidential and privileged material intended for the addressee only. If you are not the addressee, you are notified that no part of the e-mail or any attachment may be disclosed, copied or distributed, and that any other action related to this e-mail or attachment is strictly prohibited, and may be unlawful. If you have received this e-mail by error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, and delete this message. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij NV (KLM), its subsidiaries and/or its employees shall not be liable for the incorrect or incomplete transmission of this e-mail or any attachments, nor responsible for any delay in receipt. **
Re: Undo archconversion
Hi Chris! I find several APARs on the IBM site, related to this error. The most recent one (IC43226) has been fixed in 5.2.6.0. The most current 5.2 server level available is 5.2.7.0, so I would definitly upgrade if I were you... Kindest regards, Eric van Loon KLM Royal Dutch Airlines -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Christoph Pilgram Sent: dinsdag 7 maart 2006 11:16 To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: AW: Undo archconversion Hi, Client-version on that node is 5.2.2.0 (HP-UX 11.11), server is 5.2.4.3 (AIX 5.2 ML06) Best wishes Chris -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Gesendet: Dienstag, 7. März 2006 10:19 An: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Betreff: Re: Undo archconversion Hi Chris! What server and client level are you using? Kindest regards, Eric van Loon KLM Royal Dutch Airlines -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Christoph Pilgram Sent: dinsdag 7 maart 2006 7:39 To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Undo archconversion Hi all, During "expire inventory" sometimes following error-message is written : ANR0106E imarqry.c(4996): Unexpected error 2 fetching row in table "Archive.Objects". When I recocnize this message I do an 'undo archconversion - convert archive' for that node. Because this always happens only on one of my unix-clients I would like to know, where this problem comes from and how to permanently fix it. It happens normaly with new archives on that node. When this message comes up, some archives are not displaied when I use the GUI. Thanks for help Chris ** For information, services and offers, please visit our web site: http://www.klm.com. This e-mail and any attachment may contain confidential and privileged material intended for the addressee only. If you are not the addressee, you are notified that no part of the e-mail or any attachment may be disclosed, copied or distributed, and that any other action related to this e-mail or attachment is strictly prohibited, and may be unlawful. If you have received this e-mail by error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, and delete this message. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij NV (KLM), its subsidiaries and/or its employees shall not be liable for the incorrect or incomplete transmission of this e-mail or any attachments, nor responsible for any delay in receipt. **
LAN FREE Backup
I am trying to implement a LAN FREE backup, and my question on the Storage Agent/Client, do I need to create a zone from one of my HBA to the Fiber Channel Tape drives? And if I can share the HBA with disk and tape? Any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks, Rubie
Re: How to backup windows files?
Just a warning: If you have an INCLUDE statement, do not use the notation *.* That only selects files that have a "." in them. Files like c:\path\one will not be included because they don't match the pattern! -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bos, Karel Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 1:38 AM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: How to backup windows files? Hi, Just by reading the supplied manuals and read.me files. Register, ntuser.dat and things like that are part of the system protected files and handeld accordingly. In the dsm.opt.smp there are some pointers to what to exclude by default. As well als reading the client manual, it are good places to start. After implementing in- and excludes it is always a good idea to test the recover part... Regards, Karel -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Norita binti Hassan Sent: dinsdag 7 maart 2006 4:53 To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: How to backup windows files? Hi, I'm using TSM 5.2. normally we do backup on a server including all files (*.*) but there's a few files that cannot be backup As it is stated 'in use'. How can I backup all those files in a server including the registry and all the hidden files. Thanks NORITA BINTI HASAN Senior Programmer Enterprise Systems Services Information Communications Tech. Div 6th Floor,Pos Malaysia HQ 50670 Kuala Lumpur * : 03 - 22756638 *: 016 - 6090530 Pos Malaysia Berhad is Malaysia's national postal company Visit us online at www.pos.com.my NOTICE This message may contain privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the addressee or authorised to receive this email, you must not use, copy, disclose or take any action based on this email. If you have received this email in error, please advise the sender immediately by reply e-mail and delete this message. Pos Malaysia Berhad takes no responsibility for the contents of this email.
Re: LAN FREE Backup
Yes, you need to zone tape drives to the machine running Storage Manager. Multiple tape drives can use the same HBA. Tape and Disk cannot coincide on the same HBA. You need a separate adapters for disk and tape. This stems from the days of S360 (and earlier?) where there were seperate channels for streaming channels (tape) and block channels (disk). Guess this dates me... -Jeff "old timer" Nast -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Rubie Lim Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 10:01 To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: LAN FREE Backup I am trying to implement a LAN FREE backup, and my question on the Storage Agent/Client, do I need to create a zone from one of my HBA to the Fiber Channel Tape drives? And if I can share the HBA with disk and tape? Any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks, Rubie This e-mail communication and any attachments may contain confidential and privileged information for the use of the designated recipients named above. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that you have received this communication in error and that any review, disclosure, dissemination, distribution or copying of it or its contents is prohibited. As required by federal and state laws, you need to hold this information as privileged and confidential. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender and destroy all copies of this communication and any attachments.
Use of 3590J's and 3590K's in TSM
I've been reading the ADSM-L archives concerning 3590J and 3590K tapes and still have some questions. Below I will give some background information on our system, but here are my questions. We would also appreciate any other advice anyone may have for us concerning this issue, or the way in which we have our processing set up for TSM. My questions are: 1) Is TSM 5.3 different enough from version 5.1 that we should wait until we have upgraded to implement the use of the 3590K tapes? 2) From looking at the postings in ADSM-L, it looks to me that we could add 3590Ks to our OFFSITE-POOL while still leaving the 3590J's in there. (So that we could remove 3590J volumes from the offsite pool as they are naturally emptied by reclamation.) Is that true? 3) In order to get only a portion of our clients to have their data stored on 3590K's in primary storage, I will need to define a new dasd primary storage pool and change these clients to use a copy group that designates this as their copy destination. Then another primary tape storage pool will need to be defined that will have the 3590K tapes defined to it. Correct? 4) Can I have both the current "ONSITE-POOL" primary storage pool and the new primary storage pool use the same "OFFSITE-POOL" as their copy pool? 5) When reading postings on ADSM-L I saw several mentioning that 3590K's are problematic. The postings were rather old, so perhaps they have been improved over the years. We have found our J's to be quite reliable. Can we expect the K's to have the same reliability? Here is the background information on our system: - 3494 Magstar Robotic tape library with 3590 B drives - TSM server runs on our zOS system and is Version 5, Release 1, Level 7.0 (plan to upgrade to TSM 5.3 within the next month or so) - tapes used by TSM are predefined in the TSM tape pools (no scratch tapes) - All non-TSM applications that run on our z/OS system that need an empty tape use tapes that are defined as SCRATCH in the 3494 and the tapes that are defined to TSM are all in the 3494 as PRIVATE - All our tapes are currently 3590J's - TSM storage pools are defined as follows: Storage Device Estimated Pct Pct High Low Next Stora- Pool Name Class Name Capacity Util Migr Mig Migge Pool (MB) PctPct --- -- -- - - --- --- ARCHIVEPOOL DISK 500.60.0 0.0 90 70 BACKUPPOOL DISK 262,973.70.0 0.0 90 70 ONSITE-POOL OFFSITE-POOL3590 12,473,862.9 55.1 ONSITE-POOL 3590 12,275,184.8 56.2 84.2 9070 SPACEMGPOOL DISK 0.0 0.0 0.0 9070 - We don't currently use the ARCHIVEPOOL or the SPACEMGPOOL. - The "OFFSITE-POOl" is our copy storage pool. - Collocation is set to YES for our ONSITE-POOL - Collocation is set to NO for our OFFSITE-POOL - all our clients use copy groups that have a copy destination of BACKUPPOOL - somewhere between 4AM and 6AM on weekday mornings we have an operator run a script that has the following commands: query stg backuppool backup stg backuppool offsite-pool wait=yes maxpr=2 backup stg onsite-pool offsite-pool wait=yes update stg backuppool highmig=0 lowmig=0 - Once the operator sees that there are no longer any active processes, he runs a second script that contains the following: update stg backuppool highmig=90 lowmig=70 query process backup db type=full devclass=3590 wait=yes Over the years our use of TSM has grown considerably. So now we are planning to add some 3590K tapes to our mix. We're thinking these will be especially useful for our OFFSITE-POOL, since that pool is not collocated. We have many clients for which we store all of their data on a single 3590J tape, so we don't want to use 3590K tapes exclusively for our collocated ONSITE-POOL. However, there are a few servers for which we are storing a large amount of data that is collocated on 30-40 tapes for each server. We would like to have the data for these servers put on the 3590K volumes in a primary storage pool as well as in the copy storage pool. One of the considerations for this is that we are in need of ordering more tapes, but we are also getting low on the number of empty slots available in the 3494 library. Thanks in advance for any information that may help us. Barbara Andrews, Systems Software Specialist Western New York Regional Information Center (716)821-7130 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: TSM 5.3 web gui
It came from the sites that have 1200 node clusters, and the sites with 16 Regatta-H and Squadrons-H systems with their multiple ESS arrays and all of the 1000 different products IBM sells. Each group of customers has a few loud proponents for 1-4 admins being able to manage an entire enterprise by themselves. IBM can't very well say "You're crazy", so instead, the Integrated Service Console came about. Ultimately, it's supposed to manage CSM, HMCs, AIX. SVCs, ESS, and all of the other three letter acronyms of IBM, plus more. -Josh On 06.03.06 at 14:25 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2006 14:25:41 -0500 From: "Prather, Wanda" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: TSM 5.3 web gui And WHERE did this notion of "one consolidated front end" come from? Who does it help? In any site with more than 1 staff person, the division of labor is that the Storage person uses all the storage products, not just the Tivoli products; the Security person uses all the security products, not just the Tivoli security products, etc. It makes sense to drive all the Tivoli STORAGE products from one (non-websphere) interface, but not "everything".
Re: Q STG hangs during reclamation / dsmserv process hung
ENV: AIX 5.2 ML7+, TSM 5.3.2.3, 7026-M80, 3584 12xL2 - PROBLEM: Does anyone know of a way to kill a migration from inside TSM without marking the destination pool read-only? I'm really trying to avoid external processes. - ACTION TAKEN: admin scripts previously used RECLAIM STG WAIT=YES and MIGRATE STG WAIT=YES. RESULT: Q STG would hang, Some TSM Server crashes, and various other lock issues. - ACTION TAKEN: I rewrote my admin scripts to use UPD STG commands again. RESULT: The painfully visible lock issues are gone. Migration just keeps going until it reaches the LO in effect at the time the process started. - Migration is disabled at 5:55am. At 6:05am, BA STG started. I get these sorts of messages at least daily: 2006-03-06 07:55:58.00 ANR0379W A server database deadlock situation has been encountered; the lock request for the af bitfile root lock, will be denied to resolve the deadlock. 2006-03-06 07:55:58.00 ANR1181E aftxn.c(230): Data storage transaction 0:595528998 was aborted. (PROCESS: 206) 2006-03-06 07:55:58.00 ANR2183W dfmigr.c(3018): Transaction 0:595528998 was aborted. (PROCESS: 206) 2006-03-06 07:55:58.00 ANR1033W Migration process 206 terminated for storage pool DISKCOL - transaction aborted. (PROCESS: 206) - I guess that technically, this IS a way to terminate migrations, but it's a little spooky. -Josh Related thread Headers: Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2006 22:59:02 -0600 From: Josh-Daniel Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: dsmserv process hung. Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2006 14:51:52 -0800 From: Larry Peifer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: dsmserv process hung. "Ochs, Duane" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" 01/30/2006 12:44 PM Please respond to "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" _ Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2006 12:10:29 -0500 From: Orville Lantto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Q STG hangs during reclamation From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager on behalf of Rainer Wolf Sent: Wed 3/1/2006 3:01 AM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Q STG hangs during reclamation From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager on behalf of Prather, Wanda Sent: Tue 2/28/2006 4:50 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: [ADSM-L] 3584 help
Client versions and TSM 5.2.6.4/5.3
Hi Everybody, Has anyone run into any issues with using 5.1.5 clients connecting to TSM 5.2.6.4 or 5.3 ? I read the IBM website and I know 5.1.5 clients are not supported but they may work. When I called IBM they said that these clients may work but once you run into problems the only help they can give is to advise us to upgrade the client version. Rich
Re: Client versions and TSM 5.2.6.4/5.3
Sir: We are running server v5.2.7.0 on solaris and have a solaris 2.6 client v3.1.8 working with no problems. Hope that helps. Gary Lee Senior System Programmer Ball State University -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richard Mochnaczewski Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 1:33 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Client versions and TSM 5.2.6.4/5.3 Hi Everybody, Has anyone run into any issues with using 5.1.5 clients connecting to TSM 5.2.6.4 or 5.3 ? I read the IBM website and I know 5.1.5 clients are not supported but they may work. When I called IBM they said that these clients may work but once you run into problems the only help they can give is to advise us to upgrade the client version. Rich -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 268.2.0/275 - Release Date: 3/6/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 268.2.0/275 - Release Date: 3/6/2006
Re: Use of 3590J's and 3590K's in TSM
1) No. There is no difference in the way TSM 5.1 and TSM 5.3 manage 3590 tapes. 2) We just throw 3590J's and 3590K's into the 3494 and check them in as scratch to TSM. Since the drives will read and write both types, TSM doesn't care if you have mixed carts in the TSM pool. It just writes until it hits the physical end of tape. No worries. 3) Correct. 4) Yes, any number of primary pools can be backed up to the same copy pool. 5) We have had NO problems at all with the reliability of the 3590K's, and we've had them for years. (We have 2 3494's with identical setups; TSM on Windows 5.3, each sharing a 3494 with a mainframe LPAR.) If you want particular stgpools to be 3590K's, your current system of pre-defining the cartridges will work fine. But, if you are running short of slots, you probably need to be replacing your ONSTIEe cartridges with the 3590K's. If you set MAXSCRATCH on your storage pool, you can have collocation, but more than 1 client per cartridge. For example (this is just an example): If you have a library with only 100 slots available for storage, but 200 clients, you set maxscratch to 100. After TSM migrates 100 of the clients to cartridge, he starts doubling up. So you end up with 2 clients per cartridge. You still get most of the benefit of collocation, but in a controlled number of slots. That may be what you have to do to solve your slot shortage. And I would even think twice about creating the new disk and primary storage pools. Why not just add your 3590K's to the appropriate existing pool, and gradually remove the J's as they get reclaimed and go empty? You can gradually change out all your J"s with K's that way, with not much work :>) Hope that helps. Wanda Prather "I/O, I/O, It's all about I/O" -(me) -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Kapturowski Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 11:39 AM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Use of 3590J's and 3590K's in TSM I've been reading the ADSM-L archives concerning 3590J and 3590K tapes and still have some questions. Below I will give some background information on our system, but here are my questions. We would also appreciate any other advice anyone may have for us concerning this issue, or the way in which we have our processing set up for TSM. My questions are: 1) Is TSM 5.3 different enough from version 5.1 that we should wait until we have upgraded to implement the use of the 3590K tapes? 2) From looking at the postings in ADSM-L, it looks to me that we could add 3590Ks to our OFFSITE-POOL while still leaving the 3590J's in there. (So that we could remove 3590J volumes from the offsite pool as they are naturally emptied by reclamation.) Is that true? 3) In order to get only a portion of our clients to have their data stored on 3590K's in primary storage, I will need to define a new dasd primary storage pool and change these clients to use a copy group that designates this as their copy destination. Then another primary tape storage pool will need to be defined that will have the 3590K tapes defined to it. Correct? 4) Can I have both the current "ONSITE-POOL" primary storage pool and the new primary storage pool use the same "OFFSITE-POOL" as their copy pool? 5) When reading postings on ADSM-L I saw several mentioning that 3590K's are problematic. The postings were rather old, so perhaps they have been improved over the years. We have found our J's to be quite reliable. Can we expect the K's to have the same reliability? Here is the background information on our system: - 3494 Magstar Robotic tape library with 3590 B drives - TSM server runs on our zOS system and is Version 5, Release 1, Level 7.0 (plan to upgrade to TSM 5.3 within the next month or so) - tapes used by TSM are predefined in the TSM tape pools (no scratch tapes) - All non-TSM applications that run on our z/OS system that need an empty tape use tapes that are defined as SCRATCH in the 3494 and the tapes that are defined to TSM are all in the 3494 as PRIVATE - All our tapes are currently 3590J's - TSM storage pools are defined as follows: Storage Device Estimated Pct Pct High Low Next Stora- Pool Name Class Name Capacity Util Migr Mig Migge Pool (MB) PctPct --- -- -- - - --- --- ARCHIVEPOOL DISK 500.6 0.0 0.0 90 70 BACKUPPOOL DISK 262,973.70.0 0.0 90 70 ONSITE-POOL OFFSITE-POOL3590 12,473,862.9 55.1 ONSITE-POOL 3590 12,275,184.8 56.2 84.2 9070 SPACEMGPOOL DISK 0.0 0.0 0.0
Re: Client versions and TSM 5.2.6.4/5.3
Well, if you still have Windows NT 4.0 machines, there ISN"T a client later than 5.1.8! It's not like you have a choice. We have a few Windows NT 4.0 machines still running 5.1.7, and in fact some Win2K clients still running 4.2. No problems. You just don't get any of the new 5.3 features. I haven't heard of anyone having problems with connecting older clients, even some VERY old Solaris V3 clients. You are just getting the standard disclaimer from IBM. On the other hand, if you are running Win2003, TSM doesn't support the backup of the system state correctly until at least 5.2.3, and you BETTER get a 5.3 client installed. Wanda Prather "I/O, I/O, It's all about I/O" -(me) -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richard Mochnaczewski Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 1:33 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Client versions and TSM 5.2.6.4/5.3 Hi Everybody, Has anyone run into any issues with using 5.1.5 clients connecting to TSM 5.2.6.4 or 5.3 ? I read the IBM website and I know 5.1.5 clients are not supported but they may work. When I called IBM they said that these clients may work but once you run into problems the only help they can give is to advise us to upgrade the client version. Rich
Re: TSM 5.3 web gui
I heard in my last TSM user meet, (last june) that Tivoli was coming out with a newer ISC Lite version, just for TSM. Does anyone knop when this is going to see the light of the day? Rajesh > - Original Message - > From: "Prather, Wanda" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU > Subject: Re: TSM 5.3 web gui > Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2006 14:25:41 -0500 > > > I agree - there are SOME things that were designed really well in the > AC. > > I've been VERY impressed that it finally is much easier for newbies to > create management classes. The library creation tool is also excellent, > and (with the exception of one mis-labelled option) the DRM and checkin > wizards are great for new users. When I'm working with new admins who > aren't used to the old GUI, they don't seem to have any trouble or > complaints with the AC conceptually, just with the bugs (like the java > command line frequently doesn't work, and the screen jumps out of > position too often). > > On the other hand, putting a GOOD DESIGN on top of a BAD STRUCTURE was a > BAD PLAN. Did any of those "I-WANT" statements specify "I WANT A TSM > FRONT END THAT REQUIRES WEBSPHERE AND A BIGGER HOST THAN I CURRENTLY > NEED TO RUN MY TSM SERVER?" > I Doo't think so! It's like trying to stuff a hippo into a > perambulator. It's like chartering a 60-seat chauferred bus to buy eggs > at the 7-11. It's like donning a full moon-walk life-support suit to > clean the litter box. It's like..well, better stop. > > And WHERE did this notion of "one consolidated front end" come from? > Who does it help? In any site with more than 1 staff person, the > division of labor is that the Storage person uses all the storage > products, not just the Tivoli products; the Security person uses all > the security products, not just the Tivoli security products, etc. It > makes sense to drive all the Tivoli STORAGE products from one > (non-websphere) interface, but not "everything". > > On top of that, the product was clearly released before it was fully > cooked (telling new TSM users to use the command line for DRM was > absurd), and the original decision to tell people there would NOT be a > transition tool was ill-considered, arrogant, and as might be expected, > disastrous. As are the continuing problems with packaging, > installation, and documentation. The installation problems and the lack > of a useful command-line capability seem to be what frustrate > experienced TSM admins the most, not the AC design. > > In fact, I spoke at one point with someone who had participated in a > customer workshop to preview the ISC design. He said "We all really > liked the design. But they DIDN"T TELL US it was going to be so > topheavy and so slow and require Websphere". Another case of how to get > bad results from surveys... but that's a different soapbox. > > At any rate, I don't think the Admin Center itself is the problem. It's > what lurks beneath... > > My opinion and nobody else's.. > > Wanda > > > > -Original Message- > From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Allen S. Rout > Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2006 10:21 AM > To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU > Subject: Re: TSM 5.3 web gui > > > >> On Fri, 3 Mar 2006 14:28:06 -0500, Richard Mochnaczewski > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > > > I had some problems with the setup of the Admin Console. I placed a > > call with IBM, [...] > > > The ranting about the ISC was legion in Oxford, and clearly a source > of frustration for the IBMers there; there were many questions or > "I-want" type statements which were answered with "We're doing that in > the Admin Console". It's clear that they've placed a lot of effort > and thought into the AC design. > > I'm starting to think that we, TSM admins, are just too varied a bunch > to have our needs met within the constraints of one such system and > the ideology that must be imposed with it. Maybe IBM can just ditch > the GUI idea entirely, and leave the market to the 3rd party tools. > Or maybe they can ditch the idea that the GUI is 'full featured', and > deploy something intended to coddle folks who are never going to make > the effort, and omit the hard bits. > > > > I'm in sympathy with the desire to web-ify many administrative aspects > of many IBM tools under a unified umbrella. But the One Ring to Rule > Them All attitude has well-documented failure modes, and nobody wants > to be Sauron at the end. > > It gets worse when the One Ring is as (pardon me) shaky and > unmaintainable as Websphere. We've had deep, deep _DEEP_ problems > with that product. A low point was when a level 2 tech in all > seriousness told us he wasn't sure the product supported HTTP. > > No, really. I can't make that up. Our tech replied that maybe they > should change the product name to just "Sphere". > > I've been through the AIX install of the ISC and AC on a disposable > LPAR several times now; even with a fresh clean bo
Re: Use of 3590J's and 3590K's in TSM
>But, if you are running short of slots, you probably need to be >replacing your ONSTIEe cartridges with the 3590K's. >If you set MAXSCRATCH on your storage pool, you can have collocation, >but more than 1 client per cartridge. > Or since they are moving to TSM 5.3, they can use group collocation and control which nodes collocate.
Re: TS3310 with TSM 5.3.2.0 on W2K3.
I was tired when I wrote the email, Yes, I have tried both the newest (6.1.1.2) and the first version (6.0.x.x) to support the 3576. No good result with either. I can see Tape0, Tape1, and Changer0 through the device driver portion of the W2K console. But for some reason, I still get the ANRE2080 message every time I go though device setup, and TSM only sees the two drive as manual drives. This same hardware, OS, and TSM version did work with a 3582 just a week or so ago. Maybe there are some bad entries in the registry somewhere? [RC] Leigh Reed <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > To Sent by: "ADSM: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Dist Stor cc Manager" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject .EDU> Re: [ADSM-L] TS3310 with TSM 5.3.2.0 on W2K3. 03/07/2006 02:01 AM Please respond to "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] .EDU> Robert, Have you downloaded the IBM Tape drivers. I know that generally, these drivers are only mentioned when in conjunction with LTO tape drives, however they also come with the following files that relate to the medium changers. Ibmcgbs2k3.sys Ibmcg2k3.sys Ibmcgft2k3.sys You can download the zip file from ftp://ftp.software.ibm.com/storage/devdrvr/Windows/Win2003/Latest/ Leigh -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Clark Sent: 07 March 2006 04:28 To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: [ADSM-L] TS3310 with TSM 5.3.2.0 on W2K3. Has anyone had any luck getting a TS3310 working with TSM 5.3.2.0 on W2K3 EE SP1? When I get to the point that I'm configuring devices on the TSM console, I get error message ANRE2080. Various docs seem to indicate that the TS3310/3576 is supported on 5.3.2.0. It appears that TSM Device Driver doesn't recognize the media changer. Something similar to IC34862. Any ideas? Confidentiality Notice: The content of this communication, along with any attachments, is covered by federal and state law governing electronic communications and may contain confidential and legally privileged information. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, use or copying of the information contained herein is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please immediately contact us by email at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank you Confidentiality Notice: The content of this communication, along with any attachments, is covered by federal and state law governing electronic communications and may contain confidential and legally privileged information. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, use or copying of the information contained herein is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please immediately contact us by email at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank you
Re: LAN FREE Backup
Thanks. I have 3 clients to put on LAN FREE backup, but 2 of them cannot have more than 2 HBA's, what route should I go? And these 2 HBA's is needed for disk for redundancy. Rubie -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nast, Jeff P. Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 10:24 AM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] LAN FREE Backup Yes, you need to zone tape drives to the machine running Storage Manager. Multiple tape drives can use the same HBA. Tape and Disk cannot coincide on the same HBA. You need a separate adapters for disk and tape. This stems from the days of S360 (and earlier?) where there were seperate channels for streaming channels (tape) and block channels (disk). Guess this dates me... -Jeff "old timer" Nast -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Rubie Lim Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 10:01 To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: LAN FREE Backup I am trying to implement a LAN FREE backup, and my question on the Storage Agent/Client, do I need to create a zone from one of my HBA to the Fiber Channel Tape drives? And if I can share the HBA with disk and tape? Any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks, Rubie This e-mail communication and any attachments may contain confidential and privileged information for the use of the designated recipients named above. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that you have received this communication in error and that any review, disclosure, dissemination, distribution or copying of it or its contents is prohibited. As required by federal and state laws, you need to hold this information as privileged and confidential. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender and destroy all copies of this communication and any attachments.
Re: LAN FREE Backup
That brings up a question. I know if the past, we were told not to mix DISK and TAPE resources on the same FC HBA, but is that suggestion still valid? Will it not work at all? Or will it work but extremely poorly because of the different types of data flows? Just curious if something has changed in the last few years of FC architecture that makes this rule-of-thumb no longer apply... Ben -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rubie Lim Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 2:09 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: LAN FREE Backup Thanks. I have 3 clients to put on LAN FREE backup, but 2 of them cannot have more than 2 HBA's, what route should I go? And these 2 HBA's is needed for disk for redundancy. Rubie -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nast, Jeff P. Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 10:24 AM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] LAN FREE Backup Yes, you need to zone tape drives to the machine running Storage Manager. Multiple tape drives can use the same HBA. Tape and Disk cannot coincide on the same HBA. You need a separate adapters for disk and tape. This stems from the days of S360 (and earlier?) where there were seperate channels for streaming channels (tape) and block channels (disk). Guess this dates me... -Jeff "old timer" Nast -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Rubie Lim Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 10:01 To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: LAN FREE Backup I am trying to implement a LAN FREE backup, and my question on the Storage Agent/Client, do I need to create a zone from one of my HBA to the Fiber Channel Tape drives? And if I can share the HBA with disk and tape? Any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks, Rubie This e-mail communication and any attachments may contain confidential and privileged information for the use of the designated recipients named above. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that you have received this communication in error and that any review, disclosure, dissemination, distribution or copying of it or its contents is prohibited. As required by federal and state laws, you need to hold this information as privileged and confidential. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender and destroy all copies of this communication and any attachments.
R-ing the F M. (and a scripting submission)
A few weeks back I talked about doing DB incrementals, and found guarded optimism in this group about it. Guarded optimism being about as exuberant most backup types ever get, I was pleased. :) But I had a surprise once I started doing the incrementals as a matter of course. I had expected (for no good reason) that the DBBACKUPTRIGGER setting which speaks of number of incrementals between fulls applied to all DB backup processing. I was wrong. Pleasantly, because I'm a paranoid, I noticed this the first day I had expected my incremental to "automatically" be a full, and have been noodling with it by hand while I prepare a good automatic response. So, submitted for your approval or tomatoes, I present Allen's Do-what-i-meant Backup Script. --- select num_backup_incr from db where num_backup_incr <= - (select numicremental from dbbackuptrigger) if(rc_ok) goto ok_point bust_point: select 'Full backup starting' from db backup db type=full devc=remote_ctrl goto done ok_point: select 'incremental backup starting' from db backup db devc=remote_ctrl done:exit --- Not that it's all that fancy or anything. If you're at or below the dbbackuptrigger incremental count, this script will run an incr. If you're above tolerance, it will run a full.It also leaves breadcrumbs in the log (note those fine 'select' statements) so you can see what it thought it was doing. I've taken it through a few cycles on my test server, and am about to unleash it on the Real World. :) - Allen S. Rout
Restores showing as successful but are not.
Recently we had a drive on one of our servers accidentally deleted, and so a TSM restore process was started to recover the information that was lost. The restore was thought to be a success, but as days went by, more and more users were reporting that files were missing. I queried the summery tables for the restore sessions of that particular server and noticed that even though it says it was successful, it did not finish because for whatever reason the session was lost (network outage, etc). We did not think to look and see if there was a restartable restore at the time, because the restore was reported as being successful. When we opened a ticket IBM support, this is what we got: "If the restore process stops because of a power outage or network failure, the server records the point at which this occurred. This record is known to the client as a restartable restore." -IBM TSM My question is how does the client inform you that there is a restartable restore that needs to be done, and why in the database, is it showing that the restore session was successful, when in fact this is false. Is there something that we missed? Any help in this regards would be greatly appreciated. Mel Dennis
Re: LAN FREE Backup
On Tuesday 07 March 2006 22:15, Ben Bullock wrote: > That brings up a question. I know if the past, we were told not > to mix DISK and TAPE resources on the same FC HBA, but is that > suggestion still valid? > Will it not work at all? Or will it work but extremely poorly > because of the different types of data flows? It will work. But it's not recommended. I have 2 HBA's in a TSM server, both for disk and tape access and they work without any problems. > Just curious if something has changed in the last few years of > FC architecture that makes this rule-of-thumb no longer apply... Stef
Novell server backup
We have noticed on our Novell servers, each night a large amount of data is getting backed up. From our investigation all \most of this data isn't accessed regularly, so in fact it really shouldn't be getting backed up. Could someone refresh my memory on the rules TSM uses to determine if a file or folder is a candidate for backup, and if these parameters can be changed?
Re: Restores showing as successful but are not.
For client operations, don't use that SUMMARY table field to assess status. That field comes from a related account log field, and has no bearing on the real outcome of the operation. If the operation was initiated manually, then monitoring the client itself should give you status. If the operation was scheduled via the scheduler, then QUERY EVENT with F=D will show you the results. I would not expect a completed status with RC 0 in the situation you describe. See the client manual chapter on "Automating tasks" for further info about the client return codes for the command line and scheduled events. Regards, Andy Andy Raibeck IBM Software Group Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/[EMAIL PROTECTED] Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] IBM Tivoli Storage Manager support web page: http://www-306.ibm.com/software/sysmgmt/products/support/IBMTivoliStorageManager.html The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked. The command line is your friend. "Good enough" is the enemy of excellence. "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" wrote on 2006-03-07 14:24:08: > Recently we had a drive on one of our servers accidentally deleted, and > so a TSM restore process was started to recover the information that was > lost. The restore was thought to be a success, but as days went by, > more and more users were reporting that files were missing. I queried > the summery tables for the restore sessions of that particular server > and noticed that even though it says it was successful, it did not > finish because for whatever reason the session was lost (network outage, > etc). We did not think to look and see if there was a restartable > restore at the time, because the restore was reported as being > successful. When we opened a ticket IBM support, this is what we got: > > "If the restore process stops because of a power outage or network > > failure, the server records the point at which this occurred. This > > record is known to the client as a restartable restore." -IBM TSM > > > > My question is how does the client inform you that there is a > restartable restore that needs to be done, and why in the database, is > it showing that the restore session was successful, when in fact this is > false. Is there something that we missed? Any help in this regards > would be greatly appreciated. > > Mel Dennis
Re: Novell server backup
The only thing I've personally seen that does that is using tsm compression. For some reason, turning TSM compression on at the netware clients made them start doing full (albeit compressed) backups everyday. I wonder if virus scanners being run with particular settings would be enough to trick tsm into thinking the file was modified? >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 3/7/2006 11:33:03 AM >>> We have noticed on our Novell servers, each night a large amount of data is getting backed up. From our investigation all \most of this data isn't accessed regularly, so in fact it really shouldn't be getting backed up. Could someone refresh my memory on the rules TSM uses to determine if a file or folder is a candidate for backup, and if these parameters can be changed? Confidentiality Notice follows: The information in this message (and the documents attached to it, if any) is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. Access to this message by anyone else is unauthorized. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken, or omitted to be taken in reliance on it is prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this message in error, please delete all electronic copies of this message (and the documents attached to it, if any), destroy any hard copies you may have created and notify me immediately by replying to this email. Thank you.
Fw: Restores showing as successful but are not.
Forgot to mention... Have a look in the client manual for information on restartable restore. If you open up the PDF version, do a search for "restartable restore", it should take you to the right place. Regards, Andy Andy Raibeck IBM Software Group Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/[EMAIL PROTECTED] Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] IBM Tivoli Storage Manager support web page: http://www-306.ibm.com/software/sysmgmt/products/support/IBMTivoliStorageManager.html The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked. The command line is your friend. "Good enough" is the enemy of excellence. - Forwarded by Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/IBM on 2006-03-07 15:34 - Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" 2006-03-07 15:31 Please respond to "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" To ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU cc Subject Re: Restores showing as successful but are not. For client operations, don't use that SUMMARY table field to assess status. That field comes from a related account log field, and has no bearing on the real outcome of the operation. If the operation was initiated manually, then monitoring the client itself should give you status. If the operation was scheduled via the scheduler, then QUERY EVENT with F=D will show you the results. I would not expect a completed status with RC 0 in the situation you describe. See the client manual chapter on "Automating tasks" for further info about the client return codes for the command line and scheduled events. Regards, Andy Andy Raibeck IBM Software Group Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/[EMAIL PROTECTED] Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] IBM Tivoli Storage Manager support web page: http://www-306.ibm.com/software/sysmgmt/products/support/IBMTivoliStorageManager.html The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked. The command line is your friend. "Good enough" is the enemy of excellence. "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" wrote on 2006-03-07 14:24:08: > Recently we had a drive on one of our servers accidentally deleted, and > so a TSM restore process was started to recover the information that was > lost. The restore was thought to be a success, but as days went by, > more and more users were reporting that files were missing. I queried > the summery tables for the restore sessions of that particular server > and noticed that even though it says it was successful, it did not > finish because for whatever reason the session was lost (network outage, > etc). We did not think to look and see if there was a restartable > restore at the time, because the restore was reported as being > successful. When we opened a ticket IBM support, this is what we got: > > "If the restore process stops because of a power outage or network > > failure, the server records the point at which this occurred. This > > record is known to the client as a restartable restore." -IBM TSM > > > > My question is how does the client inform you that there is a > restartable restore that needs to be done, and why in the database, is > it showing that the restore session was successful, when in fact this is > false. Is there something that we missed? Any help in this regards > would be greatly appreciated. > > Mel Dennis
Re: LAN FREE Backup
Hi Ben, I was remotely involved with this sort of problem about a year ago. Another hospital in the area had a host machine that was using a FASTt700 and FC tape over the same HBAs. They had lots of problems both from the disk and tape point of view and the CE was replacing parts left and right to no avail. As soon as I heard of their problem I told the CE to have them move the disk and tape to separate HBAs. But their VAR said no way is that the problem. So the hospital suffered for another 5 months until they finally tried it and things worked fine after that. With the most HBA drivers comes a read.me file that states: 1.2 Limitations --- Inter-operability with tape devices is supported on separate FC HBA and FC switch zones... Someone may correct me here, but if memory serves... the tape devices were put on streaming (selector) channels and disk on block channels. Some tape operations can use very long sustained continous data streams, thus not allowing access to the channel by other devices on the same channel. A problem for timing sensitive disk. Block devices on the hand have smaller "blocks" of data on the channel and allow other devices more chances to access the channel. I have heard of tape and disk coexisting on one HBA and working, but it is not recommended nor supported by IBM. Your mileage may vary... -Jeff SMDC http://www.smdc.org -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Ben Bullock Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 15:15 To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: LAN FREE Backup That brings up a question. I know if the past, we were told not to mix DISK and TAPE resources on the same FC HBA, but is that suggestion still valid? Will it not work at all? Or will it work but extremely poorly because of the different types of data flows? Just curious if something has changed in the last few years of FC architecture that makes this rule-of-thumb no longer apply... Ben -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rubie Lim Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 2:09 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: LAN FREE Backup Thanks. I have 3 clients to put on LAN FREE backup, but 2 of them cannot have more than 2 HBA's, what route should I go? And these 2 HBA's is needed for disk for redundancy. Rubie -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nast, Jeff P. Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 10:24 AM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] LAN FREE Backup Yes, you need to zone tape drives to the machine running Storage Manager. Multiple tape drives can use the same HBA. Tape and Disk cannot coincide on the same HBA. You need a separate adapters for disk and tape. This stems from the days of S360 (and earlier?) where there were seperate channels for streaming channels (tape) and block channels (disk). Guess this dates me... -Jeff "old timer" Nast -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Rubie Lim Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 10:01 To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: LAN FREE Backup I am trying to implement a LAN FREE backup, and my question on the Storage Agent/Client, do I need to create a zone from one of my HBA to the Fiber Channel Tape drives? And if I can share the HBA with disk and tape? Any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks, Rubie This e-mail communication and any attachments may contain confidential and privileged information for the use of the designated recipients named above. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that you have received this communication in error and that any review, disclosure, dissemination, distribution or copying of it or its contents is prohibited. As required by federal and state laws, you need to hold this information as privileged and confidential. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender and destroy all copies of this communication and any attachments.
Re: Use of 3590J's and 3590K's in TSM
5) We have been using K's for 3 1/2 years, many are 3 years old and we have nothing more than the normal amount of bad tapes, about 6-8 per year. (4000 tapes currently) I may be missing something, but where do you tell TSM what type of tape you are using? What would happen if you just started adding K's? I may need to add J's just to see... Andy Huebner -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Kapturowski Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 10:39 AM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: [ADSM-L] Use of 3590J's and 3590K's in TSM I've been reading the ADSM-L archives concerning 3590J and 3590K tapes and still have some questions. Below I will give some background information on our system, but here are my questions. We would also appreciate any other advice anyone may have for us concerning this issue, or the way in which we have our processing set up for TSM. My questions are: 1) Is TSM 5.3 different enough from version 5.1 that we should wait until we have upgraded to implement the use of the 3590K tapes? 2) From looking at the postings in ADSM-L, it looks to me that we could add 3590Ks to our OFFSITE-POOL while still leaving the 3590J's in there. (So that we could remove 3590J volumes from the offsite pool as they are naturally emptied by reclamation.) Is that true? 3) In order to get only a portion of our clients to have their data stored on 3590K's in primary storage, I will need to define a new dasd primary storage pool and change these clients to use a copy group that designates this as their copy destination. Then another primary tape storage pool will need to be defined that will have the 3590K tapes defined to it. Correct? 4) Can I have both the current "ONSITE-POOL" primary storage pool and the new primary storage pool use the same "OFFSITE-POOL" as their copy pool? 5) When reading postings on ADSM-L I saw several mentioning that 3590K's are problematic. The postings were rather old, so perhaps they have been improved over the years. We have found our J's to be quite reliable. Can we expect the K's to have the same reliability? Here is the background information on our system: - 3494 Magstar Robotic tape library with 3590 B drives - TSM server runs on our zOS system and is Version 5, Release 1, Level 7.0 (plan to upgrade to TSM 5.3 within the next month or so) - tapes used by TSM are predefined in the TSM tape pools (no scratch tapes) - All non-TSM applications that run on our z/OS system that need an empty tape use tapes that are defined as SCRATCH in the 3494 and the tapes that are defined to TSM are all in the 3494 as PRIVATE - All our tapes are currently 3590J's - TSM storage pools are defined as follows: Storage Device Estimated Pct Pct High Low Next Stora- Pool Name Class Name Capacity Util Migr Mig Migge Pool (MB) PctPct --- -- -- - - --- --- ARCHIVEPOOL DISK 500.6 0.0 0.0 90 70 BACKUPPOOL DISK 262,973.70.0 0.0 90 70 ONSITE-POOL OFFSITE-POOL3590 12,473,862.9 55.1 ONSITE-POOL 3590 12,275,184.8 56.2 84.2 9070 SPACEMGPOOL DISK 0.0 0.0 0.0 9070 - We don't currently use the ARCHIVEPOOL or the SPACEMGPOOL. - The "OFFSITE-POOl" is our copy storage pool. - Collocation is set to YES for our ONSITE-POOL - Collocation is set to NO for our OFFSITE-POOL - all our clients use copy groups that have a copy destination of BACKUPPOOL - somewhere between 4AM and 6AM on weekday mornings we have an operator run a script that has the following commands: query stg backuppool backup stg backuppool offsite-pool wait=yes maxpr=2 backup stg onsite-pool offsite-pool wait=yes update stg backuppool highmig=0 lowmig=0 - Once the operator sees that there are no longer any active processes, he runs a second script that contains the following: update stg backuppool highmig=90 lowmig=70 query process backup db type=full devclass=3590 wait=yes Over the years our use of TSM has grown considerably. So now we are planning to add some 3590K tapes to our mix. We're thinking these will be especially useful for our OFFSITE-POOL, since that pool is not collocated. We have many clients for which we store all of their data on a single 3590J tape, so we don't want to use 3590K tapes exclusively for our collocated ONSITE-POOL. However, there are a few servers for which we are storing a large amount of data that is collocated on 30-40 tapes for each server. We would l
Re: Use of 3590J's and 3590K's in TSM
John Kapturowski wrote: > > Here is the background information on our system: > - 3494 Magstar Robotic tape library with 3590 B drives You don't say whether you'll be upgrading your tape drives when you add 3590K cartridges into the mix. The original 3590 B drives don't support 3590K cartridges (aka, "extended length"). I don't recall whether they offered an extended length upgrade for the model B drives that didn't involve converting them to model E or model H drives. But make sure you either have drives that support the "K" tapes or are upgrading your drives so they will be able to support "K" tapes. If the drives have a green "2x" sticker on the back, you _should_ be good, but you might want to double-check with your support engineer. (The green sticker matches the green tabs and leader block on the "K" tapes.) Upgrading to model E or model H involves changing the number of tracks written on a tape. If you do a model upgrade, you'll have to change all of your non-empty cartridges to read-only and, after the drive upgrade, migrate all the data to empty cartridges. You can still use your "J" tapes (and get higher capacity on them, too), but the drives can only write at their newer track density. This is covered in a number of TSM server device README documents. Good luck with your growth! =Dave -- Hello World.David Bronder - Systems Admin Segmentation Fault ITS-SPA, Univ. of Iowa Core dumped, disk trashed, quota filled, soda warm. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: LAN FREE Backup
Thanks for the input. It sounds like the "separate adapters" is a good idea. It would probably depend on how large or how busy your TSM server is before you start to see these stream VS block issues. Thanks, Ben -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nast, Jeff P. Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 3:48 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: LAN FREE Backup Hi Ben, I was remotely involved with this sort of problem about a year ago. Another hospital in the area had a host machine that was using a FASTt700 and FC tape over the same HBAs. They had lots of problems both from the disk and tape point of view and the CE was replacing parts left and right to no avail. As soon as I heard of their problem I told the CE to have them move the disk and tape to separate HBAs. But their VAR said no way is that the problem. So the hospital suffered for another 5 months until they finally tried it and things worked fine after that. With the most HBA drivers comes a read.me file that states: 1.2 Limitations --- Inter-operability with tape devices is supported on separate FC HBA and FC switch zones... Someone may correct me here, but if memory serves... the tape devices were put on streaming (selector) channels and disk on block channels. Some tape operations can use very long sustained continous data streams, thus not allowing access to the channel by other devices on the same channel. A problem for timing sensitive disk. Block devices on the hand have smaller "blocks" of data on the channel and allow other devices more chances to access the channel. I have heard of tape and disk coexisting on one HBA and working, but it is not recommended nor supported by IBM. Your mileage may vary... -Jeff SMDC http://www.smdc.org -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Ben Bullock Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 15:15 To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: LAN FREE Backup That brings up a question. I know if the past, we were told not to mix DISK and TAPE resources on the same FC HBA, but is that suggestion still valid? Will it not work at all? Or will it work but extremely poorly because of the different types of data flows? Just curious if something has changed in the last few years of FC architecture that makes this rule-of-thumb no longer apply... Ben -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rubie Lim Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 2:09 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: LAN FREE Backup Thanks. I have 3 clients to put on LAN FREE backup, but 2 of them cannot have more than 2 HBA's, what route should I go? And these 2 HBA's is needed for disk for redundancy. Rubie -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nast, Jeff P. Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 10:24 AM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] LAN FREE Backup Yes, you need to zone tape drives to the machine running Storage Manager. Multiple tape drives can use the same HBA. Tape and Disk cannot coincide on the same HBA. You need a separate adapters for disk and tape. This stems from the days of S360 (and earlier?) where there were seperate channels for streaming channels (tape) and block channels (disk). Guess this dates me... -Jeff "old timer" Nast -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Rubie Lim Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 10:01 To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: LAN FREE Backup I am trying to implement a LAN FREE backup, and my question on the Storage Agent/Client, do I need to create a zone from one of my HBA to the Fiber Channel Tape drives? And if I can share the HBA with disk and tape? Any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks, Rubie This e-mail communication and any attachments may contain confidential and privileged information for the use of the designated recipients named above. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that you have received this communication in error and that any review, disclosure, dissemination, distribution or copying of it or its contents is prohibited. As required by federal and state laws, you need to hold this information as privileged and confidential. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender and destroy all copies of this communication and any attachments.
Fw: [ADSM-L] LAN FREE Backup
Hello, I am trying to get a Dell ML6000 (also know as a ADIC Scalar i500) working in place of a NEO2000 The ML6000 has LTO3 tapes The NEO2000 has LTO1 tapes My storagepools are: tsm: AUMELTSM>q stg Session established with server AUMELTSM: Windows Server Version 5, Release 3, Level 2.4 Server date/time: 03/08/2006 10:30:01 Last access: 03/08/2006 09:08:18 Storage Device Estimated Pct Pct High Low Next Stora- Pool Name Class Name Capacity Util Migr Mig Mig ge Pool Pct Pct --- -- -- - - --- --- ARCCOPYPOOL LTOCLASS2 0.0 M 0.0 0.0 90 70 ARCHIVEPOOL DISK0.0 M 0.0 0.0 90 70 ARCTAPEPOOL ARCTAPEPOOL LTOCLASS2 0.0 M 0.0 0.0 90 70 BACKUPPOOL DISK 1,000 G 57.5 57.5 90 70 TAPEPOOL COPYPOOLLTOCLASS211,814 G 2.2 DISKPOOLDISK190 G 26.0 0.0 70 30 LTOPOOL1 DOMCOPY LTOCLASS2 7,348 G 0.3 DOMDISK DISK200 G 86.4 86.40 0 DOMTAPE DOMTAPE LTOCLASS2 7,661 G 8.0 18.0 90 70 LTOPOOL1LTOCLASS283,988 G 0.8 2.2 90 70 MONTHCOPY LTOCLASS2 8,029 G 18.6 MONTHDISK DISK400 G 84.7 84.70 0 MONTHTAPE MONTHTAPE LTOCLASS2 8,514 G 18.3 30.0 90 70 OFFSITE_CO- LTOCLASS2 15,731,573 0.0 PYPOOL G SPACEMGPOOL DISK0.0 M 0.0 0.0 90 70 TAPEPOOLLTOCLASS210,000 G 0.0 2.0 90 70 My question is do I need to create another Storage Pool use the LTO1's in the ML6000 library? I am getting the error ... ANR2017I Administrator issued command: BACKUP DB dev=ltoclass2 type=full vol=HZ0245L1 ANR0984I Process 27 for DATABASE BACKUP started in the BACKGROUND at 14:32:50. ANR2280I Full database backup started as process 27. ANR8369E Library NEO2000 is not defined. ANR1401W Mount request denied for volume HZ0245L1 - mount failed. ANR4578E Database backup/restore terminated - required volume was not mounted. ANR0985I Process 27 for DATABASE BACKUP running in the BACKGROUND completed with completion state FAILURE at 14:34:28. Regards, Richard Whybrow Network Administrator Hertz Australia Pty Limited Level 5, 10 Dorcas Street South Melbourne 3205 Victoria, Australia Telephone: +61 3 96982252 Mobile:+61 402905580 Facsimile:+61 3 96982266 E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ?Man's best possession is a sympathetic wife.? Euripides (484 BC - 406 BC), Antigone --- This message (including attachments) may contain information that is privileged, confidential or protected from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that dissemination, disclosure, copying, distribution or use of this message or any information contained in it is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please immediately notify the sender by reply e-mail and delete this message from your computer. Although we have taken steps to ensure that this e-mail and attachments are free from any virus, we advise that in keeping with good computing practice the recipient should ensure they are actually virus free. ---
Re: LAN FREE Backup
Thank you all for the input. -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ben Bullock Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 5:42 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] LAN FREE Backup Thanks for the input. It sounds like the "separate adapters" is a good idea. It would probably depend on how large or how busy your TSM server is before you start to see these stream VS block issues. Thanks, Ben -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nast, Jeff P. Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 3:48 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: LAN FREE Backup Hi Ben, I was remotely involved with this sort of problem about a year ago. Another hospital in the area had a host machine that was using a FASTt700 and FC tape over the same HBAs. They had lots of problems both from the disk and tape point of view and the CE was replacing parts left and right to no avail. As soon as I heard of their problem I told the CE to have them move the disk and tape to separate HBAs. But their VAR said no way is that the problem. So the hospital suffered for another 5 months until they finally tried it and things worked fine after that. With the most HBA drivers comes a read.me file that states: 1.2 Limitations --- Inter-operability with tape devices is supported on separate FC HBA and FC switch zones... Someone may correct me here, but if memory serves... the tape devices were put on streaming (selector) channels and disk on block channels. Some tape operations can use very long sustained continous data streams, thus not allowing access to the channel by other devices on the same channel. A problem for timing sensitive disk. Block devices on the hand have smaller "blocks" of data on the channel and allow other devices more chances to access the channel. I have heard of tape and disk coexisting on one HBA and working, but it is not recommended nor supported by IBM. Your mileage may vary... -Jeff SMDC http://www.smdc.org -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Ben Bullock Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 15:15 To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: LAN FREE Backup That brings up a question. I know if the past, we were told not to mix DISK and TAPE resources on the same FC HBA, but is that suggestion still valid? Will it not work at all? Or will it work but extremely poorly because of the different types of data flows? Just curious if something has changed in the last few years of FC architecture that makes this rule-of-thumb no longer apply... Ben -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rubie Lim Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 2:09 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: LAN FREE Backup Thanks. I have 3 clients to put on LAN FREE backup, but 2 of them cannot have more than 2 HBA's, what route should I go? And these 2 HBA's is needed for disk for redundancy. Rubie -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nast, Jeff P. Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 10:24 AM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] LAN FREE Backup Yes, you need to zone tape drives to the machine running Storage Manager. Multiple tape drives can use the same HBA. Tape and Disk cannot coincide on the same HBA. You need a separate adapters for disk and tape. This stems from the days of S360 (and earlier?) where there were seperate channels for streaming channels (tape) and block channels (disk). Guess this dates me... -Jeff "old timer" Nast -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Rubie Lim Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 10:01 To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: LAN FREE Backup I am trying to implement a LAN FREE backup, and my question on the Storage Agent/Client, do I need to create a zone from one of my HBA to the Fiber Channel Tape drives? And if I can share the HBA with disk and tape? Any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks, Rubie This e-mail communication and any attachments may contain confidential and privileged information for the use of the designated recipients named above. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that you have received this communication in error and that any review, disclosure, dissemination, distribution or copying of it or its contents is prohibited. As required by federal and state laws, you need to hold this information as privileged and confidential. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender and destroy all copies of this communication and any attachments.
Re: R-ing the F M. (and a scripting submission)
>> On Tue, 7 Mar 2006 19:05:06 -0600, "John Monahan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > Just curious. Is there any particular reason you use bogus selects for > comments instead of the "issue message" command? Heh, because I hadn't found it. Thanks! [ edit edit edit ] - Allen S. Rout - Hadn't used GOTO for ~10 years up until that script...
Re: Novell server backup
On Mar 7, 2006, at 12:33 PM, Chris McKay wrote: We have noticed on our Novell servers, each night a large amount of data is getting backed up. From our investigation all \most of this data isn't accessed regularly, so in fact it really shouldn't be getting backed up. Could someone refresh my memory on the rules TSM uses to determine if a file or folder is a candidate for backup, and if these parameters can be changed? Backup candidacy is described in the client manual, around topic "Understanding which files are backed up". There might be an APAR, which you could search for based upon your client level and file nature details. If it becomes necessary, you can perform a client trace with the FIOATTRIBS flag: see examples of output on the IBM site. Richard Sims
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Folks is anyone out there using TSM (ndmp for net apps) we seem to have struck a bug/limitation with netbackup and are looking at moving to TSM.need to be confident that it will not bug out at less than 3 TB Allan Mills | AIX and TSM Administrator Business & Technology Services | New South Wales Police 8835 9286 (internal 29286) This message and any attachment is confidential and may be privileged or otherwise protected from disclosure. If you have received it by mistake, please let us know by reply and then delete it from your system; you should not copy the message or disclose its contents to anyone.
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Hi, Have used it. But, what are the limitations and bugs you speak off? Regards, Karel -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Allan Mills Sent: woensdag 8 maart 2006 5:21 To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Folks is anyone out there using TSM (ndmp for net apps) we seem to have struck a bug/limitation with netbackup and are looking at moving to TSM.need to be confident that it will not bug out at less than 3 TB Allan Mills | AIX and TSM Administrator Business & Technology Services | New South Wales Police 8835 9286 (internal 29286) This message and any attachment is confidential and may be privileged or otherwise protected from disclosure. If you have received it by mistake, please let us know by reply and then delete it from your system; you should not copy the message or disclose its contents to anyone. Dit bericht is vertrouwelijk en kan geheime informatie bevatten enkel bestemd voor de geadresseerde. Indien dit bericht niet voor u is bestemd, verzoeken wij u dit onmiddellijk aan ons te melden en het bericht te vernietigen. Aangezien de integriteit van het bericht niet veilig gesteld is middels verzending via internet, kan Atos Origin niet aansprakelijk worden gehouden voor de inhoud daarvan. Hoewel wij ons inspannen een virusvrij netwerk te hanteren, geven wij geen enkele garantie dat dit bericht virusvrij is, noch aanvaarden wij enige aansprakelijkheid voor de mogelijke aanwezigheid van een virus in dit bericht. Op al onze rechtsverhoudingen, aanbiedingen en overeenkomsten waaronder Atos Origin goederen en/of diensten levert zijn met uitsluiting van alle andere voorwaarden de Leveringsvoorwaarden van Atos Origin van toepassing. Deze worden u op aanvraag direct kosteloos toegezonden. This e-mail and the documents attached are confidential and intended solely for the addressee; it may also be privileged. If you receive this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately and destroy it. As its integrity cannot be secured on the Internet, the Atos Origin group liability cannot be triggered for the message content. Although the sender endeavours to maintain a computer virus-free network, the sender does not warrant that this transmission is virus-free and will not be liable for any damages resulting from any virus transmitted. On all offers and agreements under which Atos Origin supplies goods and/or services of whatever nature, the Terms of Delivery from Atos Origin exclusively apply. The Terms of Delivery shall be promptly submitted to you on your request.
ndmp limitations
in netbackup it loops and loops for days at 1TB Allan Mills | AIX and TSM Administrator Business & Technology Services | New South Wales Police 8835 9286 (internal 29286) "Bos, Karel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" 08/03/2006 17:16 Please respond to "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" To ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU cc Subject [ADSM-L] Hi, Have used it. But, what are the limitations and bugs you speak off? Regards, Karel -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Allan Mills Sent: woensdag 8 maart 2006 5:21 To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Folks is anyone out there using TSM (ndmp for net apps) we seem to have struck a bug/limitation with netbackup and are looking at moving to TSM. need to be confident that it will not bug out at less than 3 TB Allan Mills | AIX and TSM Administrator Business & Technology Services | New South Wales Police 8835 9286 (internal 29286) This message and any attachment is confidential and may be privileged or otherwise protected from disclosure. If you have received it by mistake, please let us know by reply and then delete it from your system; you should not copy the message or disclose its contents to anyone. All mail is subject to content scanning for possible violation of New South Wales Police electronic Mail Policy. All persons are required to familiarise themselves with the content of the policy located on the MEMO Bulletin Board and on the NSWP Intranet. This message and any attachment is confidential and may be privileged or otherwise protected from disclosure. If you have received it by mistake, please let us know by reply and then delete it from your system; you should not copy the message or disclose its contents to anyone. Dit bericht is vertrouwelijk en kan geheime informatie bevatten enkel bestemd voor de geadresseerde. Indien dit bericht niet voor u is bestemd, verzoeken wij u dit onmiddellijk aan ons te melden en het bericht te vernietigen. Aangezien de integriteit van het bericht niet veilig gesteld is middels verzending via internet, kan Atos Origin niet aansprakelijk worden gehouden voor de inhoud daarvan. Hoewel wij ons inspannen een virusvrij netwerk te hanteren, geven wij geen enkele garantie dat dit bericht virusvrij is, noch aanvaarden wij enige aansprakelijkheid voor de mogelijke aanwezigheid van een virus in dit bericht. Op al onze rechtsverhoudingen, aanbiedingen en overeenkomsten waaronder Atos Origin goederen en/of diensten levert zijn met uitsluiting van alle andere voorwaarden de Leveringsvoorwaarden van Atos Origin van toepassing. Deze worden u op aanvraag direct kosteloos toegezonden. This e-mail and the documents attached are confidential and intended solely for the addressee; it may also be privileged. If you receive this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately and destroy it. As its integrity cannot be secured on the Internet, the Atos Origin group liability cannot be triggered for the message content. Although the sender endeavours to maintain a computer virus-free network, the sender does not warrant that this transmission is virus-free and will not be liable for any damages resulting from any virus transmitted. On all offers and agreements under which Atos Origin supplies goods and/or services of whatever nature, the Terms of Delivery from Atos Origin exclusively apply. The Terms of Delivery shall be promptly submitted to you on your request.=
Cann't start backup schedule on Linux
Hi all, I'm using TSM 5.2 client on Linux 9.0. Normally, this machine still operated well ( manual and schedule backup). After I reboot the machine, I cann't start backup schedule service. When I excute command "nohup dsmc schedule 2> /dev/null &" I always receive a following message : [1] + Exit 127 nohup dsmc schedule 2> /dev/null & Does anyone have any idea? Thanks you a lot,
Re: TSM 5.3 web gui
What's a Web Admin Client? Yet another thing to ignore. No, seriously, I agree with Alan and Wanda. In looking at this implementation, I am left to wonder, "What's in this for me?" Sounds like putting it up is quite a bit harder than it is worth. If they want to make something easier, a much more minimalist design would really be better - something like AIX smit. Good thing I've been ignoring these sluggish, cumbersome web GUI thingamabobs all along - it's making my transition to 5.3 much easier. Linemode never goes out of style! Roger Deschner University of Illinois at Chicago [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Give a man a computer program and you give him a headache, but teach him to program computers and you give him the power to create headaches for others for the rest of his life." -- R. B. Forest On Tue, 7 Mar 2006, Rajesh Oak wrote: >I heard in my last TSM user meet, (last june) that Tivoli was coming out with >a newer ISC Lite version, just for TSM. Does anyone knop when this is going to >see the light of the day? > >Rajesh > >> - Original Message - >> From: "Prather, Wanda" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU >> Subject: Re: TSM 5.3 web gui >> Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2006 14:25:41 -0500 >> >> >> I agree - there are SOME things that were designed really well in the >> AC. >> >> I've been VERY impressed that it finally is much easier for newbies to >> create management classes. The library creation tool is also excellent, >> and (with the exception of one mis-labelled option) the DRM and checkin >> wizards are great for new users. When I'm working with new admins who >> aren't used to the old GUI, they don't seem to have any trouble or >> complaints with the AC conceptually, just with the bugs (like the java >> command line frequently doesn't work, and the screen jumps out of >> position too often). >> >> On the other hand, putting a GOOD DESIGN on top of a BAD STRUCTURE was a >> BAD PLAN. Did any of those "I-WANT" statements specify "I WANT A TSM >> FRONT END THAT REQUIRES WEBSPHERE AND A BIGGER HOST THAN I CURRENTLY >> NEED TO RUN MY TSM SERVER?" >> I Doo't think so! It's like trying to stuff a hippo into a >> perambulator. It's like chartering a 60-seat chauferred bus to buy eggs >> at the 7-11. It's like donning a full moon-walk life-support suit to >> clean the litter box. It's like..well, better stop. >> >> And WHERE did this notion of "one consolidated front end" come from? >> Who does it help? In any site with more than 1 staff person, the >> division of labor is that the Storage person uses all the storage >> products, not just the Tivoli products; the Security person uses all >> the security products, not just the Tivoli security products, etc. It >> makes sense to drive all the Tivoli STORAGE products from one >> (non-websphere) interface, but not "everything". >> >> On top of that, the product was clearly released before it was fully >> cooked (telling new TSM users to use the command line for DRM was >> absurd), and the original decision to tell people there would NOT be a >> transition tool was ill-considered, arrogant, and as might be expected, >> disastrous. As are the continuing problems with packaging, >> installation, and documentation. The installation problems and the lack >> of a useful command-line capability seem to be what frustrate >> experienced TSM admins the most, not the AC design. >> >> In fact, I spoke at one point with someone who had participated in a >> customer workshop to preview the ISC design. He said "We all really >> liked the design. But they DIDN"T TELL US it was going to be so >> topheavy and so slow and require Websphere". Another case of how to get >> bad results from surveys... but that's a different soapbox. >> >> At any rate, I don't think the Admin Center itself is the problem. It's >> what lurks beneath... >> >> My opinion and nobody else's.. >> >> Wanda >> >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of >> Allen S. Rout >> Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2006 10:21 AM >> To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU >> Subject: Re: TSM 5.3 web gui >> >> >> >> On Fri, 3 Mar 2006 14:28:06 -0500, Richard Mochnaczewski >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >> >> >> > I had some problems with the setup of the Admin Console. I placed a >> > call with IBM, [...] >> >> >> The ranting about the ISC was legion in Oxford, and clearly a source >> of frustration for the IBMers there; there were many questions or >> "I-want" type statements which were answered with "We're doing that in >> the Admin Console". It's clear that they've placed a lot of effort >> and thought into the AC design. >> >> I'm starting to think that we, TSM admins, are just too varied a bunch >> to have our needs met within the constraints of one such system and >> the ideology that must be imposed with it. Maybe IBM can just ditch >> the GUI idea entirely, and leave the market to the 3rd party tools. >> Or maybe they can
Re: Cann't start backup schedule on Linux
Hi, what's the output for ps -ef |grep dsmc ? Sandeep -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of nghiatd Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 12:53 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: [ADSM-L] Cann't start backup schedule on Linux Hi all, I'm using TSM 5.2 client on Linux 9.0. Normally, this machine still operated well ( manual and schedule backup). After I reboot the machine, I cann't start backup schedule service. When I excute command "nohup dsmc schedule 2> /dev/null &" I always receive a following message : [1] + Exit 127 nohup dsmc schedule 2> /dev/null & Does anyone have any idea? Thanks you a lot, This email has been scanned for any virus infection at the sending end.
