TCP / IP error with TSM Client Version 4.2.1 !!!

[Ajit Mahajan]

Hi..

Some few days back i updated my TSM client version to 4.2.1 on Solaris.
My TSM Server is on AIX.

After this upgrade, everytime during the backup i get the following error :

##

TCP/IP received rc 25 trying to accept connection from server

##

Does anybody have any idea as to what this error is related to


thanx in advance,

Ajit



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Re: Multiple Backup Sets on one tape - (Was Large TSM database due to no. of files and versions)

[John Naylor]

Etienne,
I am not sure whether the Netware client supports local device restore of
backupsets.
We certainly cannot do it with our backupsets which are written either on STK
9840 cartridges,
or to file devices on disk.
We restore direct across the network, and yes if you have large amounts of data
to restore
you do need the network bandwidth
Another option you might want to look at if you have a spare network box, is to
attach that locally to your TSM server, restore to that, and then replace or
just  swap the disks out to your failing client.





Etienne Brodeur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 12/11/2001 03:39:14 AM

Please respond to "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

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cc:(bcc: John Naylor/HAV/SSE)
Subject:  Re: Multiple Backup Sets on one tape - (Was Large TSM database
  due to no. of files and versions)



Is this possible to do on a Novell client?  Using a Windows 2000 TSM
server?

Restore a backupset from tape device that is available on both locations?

If it's not possible could I set up TSM to create a backupset to file and
then backup that up on tape with TSM.  If I need it I would then need to
restore the file and then send it to the client and then restore... Doesn't
sound too good actually, but if you can't the backupsets from tape on the
Novell client how do you keep complete monthly copies of backups with TSM?
I can't archive because some of the servers are on the WAN and the speed
won't allow me to do complete archive during the weekend anymore (too much
data).

Help!

Thanks,

Etienne Brodeur


On Fri, 30 Nov 2001 10:15:33 -0600, it was written:
>>Oh how I wish this were possible.  I have submitted this requirement to
>>Tivoli and I believe others have also.
>>
>>We are currently using LTO tapes (100 GB uncompressed), it is just not
>>economical to only put 1 backupset per tape.
>
>One of the major purposes of backupsets is the ability to restore a
>system without the use of the TSM server. This can particularly useful
>in DR mode when you need to get some mission-critical TSM clients
>*immediately* while you're concurrently getting the TSM box rebuilt as
>well. In this mode, an LTO tape with a backupset on it won't do you
>much good if you can't locally mount the tape on the box to be
>recovered, and I don't know many folk that have a standalone LTO tape
>drive sitting around.
>
>If you've got a beef with using large-capacity tapes for backupsets,
>stick a standalone DLT or 8mm tape drive on your TSM server, and write
>the backupsets to that. Then move the drive to the client to be
>restored as necessary.








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Re: Script to CHECKOUT multiples tapes on SCSI library

[Braich, Raminder]

We run the following macro to checkout our tapes. Pipe the output of this
macro to another file. The output would be in this format 'checkout libv
3494 volume_name remove=yes'. Execute this output file.Once the tapes are
all out mark the volumes as offsite. Do this by "update volume volume_name
access=offsite".

select 'checkout libv 3494 '|| volume_name ||' remove=yes' as "Remove Tape
Script  " from volumes where not access='OFFSITE' and
stgpool_name='COPYPOOL' and days(current_date)-days(last_write_date)<=1
select volume_name, date_time as "DATE_TIME "from volhistory
where type='BACKUPFULL'
select 'checkout libv 3494 '|| volume_name ||' remove=yes' as "Remove DB
Tape Script" from libvolumes where last_use='DbBackup'

-Raminder Braich


> -Original Message-
> From: Etienne Brodeur [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 3:31 PM
> To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject:  Re: Script to CHECKOUT multiples tapes on SCSI library
>
> That is a very good question, sinbce I don't have DRM (or at least I
> didn't
> buy it so I am not using it).  Could you give me an exemple of how your
> script pulls a list a tapes to be checked out?  I am new to TSM and
> finding
> that doint it manually takes forever if I have multiples tapes to take out
> (which I always do).
>
> Thanks
>
> Etienne Brodeur
>
>
>
> Ken Long
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> 2001-12-07
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> Stor Manager"
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> How many of the various DR commands are usable if we haven't purchased the
> separate DRM module?  Back in the ADSM v2 days, in lieu of purchasing DRM,
> we developed AIX shell scripts which manage the checkout process.  Since
> then, I've ignored the DR commands as I thought they weren't available for
> my use because I didn't purchase DRM.
>
> Our current setup uses TSM server scripts to build a list of volumes to be
> checked out, then uses an AIX script to convert the list into a macro to
> execute the checkout commands.
>
>
>
>
> Farren Minns
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> "ADSM: Dist
> Stor Manager"
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> I use the command
>
> move drm * wherestate=mountable tostate=vault remove=bulk
>
> That should be the kind of thing you are after.
>
> Thanks
>
> Farren Minns
>
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> Etienne Brodeur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>@VM.MARIST.EDU> on 07/12/2001 14:13:59
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> Please respond to "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>
> Thanks for the help,
>
>  From I have been reading the MOVE MEDIA command is to allow you to
> move onsite tapes to an overflow location.  What I want to be able to do
> is
> to identify which tapes I need to send offsite and with one command check
> them out, instead of having to check the tapes out one at a time, ie one
> command per tape I want to checkout.  Right now if I have 8 tapes to
> checkout to the offsite vault I need to execute 8 commands.  I would like
> to be bale to use one command to do this such as specifying a list which
> is
> why I was trying to use the VOLFILE option.  Is the MOVE MEDIA a command I
> could use to do this?
>
> Thanks again for the suggestion.
>
> Etienne Brodeur
>
>
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> Martin Trcka
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> Doesn't MOVE MEDIA command meet your needs ?
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> Martin Trcka
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TSM upgrade

[Loon, E.J. van - SPLXM]

Hi Orville!
Thanks for your reply!
I actually installed 4.2.1.8, but for some reason 4.2.0.0 was started. A
stop/start of TSM fixed this.
I removed the nodelock file an re-registered all the licenses, but it still
reports:

Is Tivoli Disaster Recovery Manager in use ?: Yes
Is Tivoli Disaster Recovery Manager licensed ?: No

Why does TSM think that DRM is in use? I do not!
Kindest regards,
Eric van Loon
KLM Royal Dutch Airlines


-Original Message-
From: Orville L. Lantto [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 22:22
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: TSM upgrade


1) You must manually remove the DRM stanza from the file "nodelock" in the
server/bin directory.
2) This command was broken, fixed, broken again, and fixed again.  It works
in my 4.2.1.8.

Orville L. Lantto
Datatrend Technologies, Inc.
121 Cheshire Lane #700
Minnetonka, MN 55305
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
V: 952-931-1203
F: 952-931-1293
C: 612-770-9166



"Loon, E.J.
van - SPLXM" To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: TSM upgrade
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Hi *SM-ers!
I've just upgraded my AIX server from 3.7.4 to 4.2.1.8 and I encounter two
problems:
1) For some reason TSM thinks I'm using DRM. I'm not. How do I correct
this?
2) a Reg lic file=50mgsyslan.lic updates the license to 50 clients. Running
it twice still gives me 50 licenses. Running a Reg lic file=50mgsyslan.lic
number=2 still gives me 50 licenses. How do I enter the correct value: 110?
Thanks in advance for any reply!!!
Kindest regards,
Eric van Loon
KLM Royal Dutch Airlines


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Help! I need more space

[Miles Purdy]

Hi folks, 

I have a situation where our company has two backups systems, TSM being one of them. 
The 'other' backup system doesn't work for various reasons and we are planning to move 
the servers that backup to it to TSM. On the weekend that other system fell a part. 
Now I need to backup about 500GBs into a Magstar L32 that really doesn't have that 
much space. I'm in a tight spot and I need some creative ways to backup that much 
data. Here's what I've been trying:

- turn collocation off, or from 'filespace' to 'on'
- reviewing old nodes and the largest filespaces, but this didn't save to much
- I don't think I can reduce any copies or the length of time that the copies are 
stored

Here's what I do have:
- I do have 8 x 36 GB disks that will be here soon
- a ton of tapes, no room in the Magstar, but I must have 200-300 extra tapes
- I also have 24 x 18.2 GB disks right now that are used for my disk pools and 4 x 9.1 
GB disks that are used

So I was thinking I that I could:
1. use the 36 GB disks for a primary pool. Still sending the data offsite (copy pool) 
because I have a lot of tapes, OR,
2. start taking tapes out of the Magstar and just setting them aside, when they are 
full

I do have a LTO coming but not for 2-3 months.

I could really use a creative idea to store a lot of data. I have the tapes just not 
the slots inside my Magstar.

Thanks Miles


--
Miles Purdy 
System Manager
Farm Income Programs Directorate
Winnipeg, MB, CA
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
ph: (204) 984-1602 fax: (204) 983-7557

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Re: Help! I need more space

[David Longo]

I have a similar but not as bad situation.  3575-L32 maxed out with about
60 tapes out of library and LTO coming in a month or so.  The "MOVE
 MEDIA"  command is used to move tapes out of library.  You have to have
your OPS folks on the ball as when one of those tapes is needed, there
is a message that pops up on console each minute until tape is checked 
back in.

Reclamations and restores are mostly what needs tapes, so if you can plan 
the  times of these that will help.  With your 200+ tapes out of library, this will 
most likely be a LARGE extra operation for them (and YOU) to keep up
with.  Removing collocation will conserve tapes but don't know how you
have in thisn state and how long it will take to change over.


David Longo

>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12/11/01 09:46AM >>>
Hi folks, 

I have a situation where our company has two backups systems, TSM being one of them. 
The 'other' backup system doesn't work for various reasons and we are planning to move 
the servers that backup to it to TSM. On the weekend that other system fell a part. 
Now I need to backup about 500GBs into a Magstar L32 that really doesn't have that 
much space. I'm in a tight spot and I need some creative ways to backup that much 
data. Here's what I've been trying:

- turn collocation off, or from 'filespace' to 'on'
- reviewing old nodes and the largest filespaces, but this didn't save to much
- I don't think I can reduce any copies or the length of time that the copies are 
stored

Here's what I do have:
- I do have 8 x 36 GB disks that will be here soon
- a ton of tapes, no room in the Magstar, but I must have 200-300 extra tapes
- I also have 24 x 18.2 GB disks right now that are used for my disk pools and 4 x 9.1 
GB disks that are used

So I was thinking I that I could:
1. use the 36 GB disks for a primary pool. Still sending the data offsite (copy pool) 
because I have a lot of tapes, OR,
2. start taking tapes out of the Magstar and just setting them aside, when they are 
full

I do have a LTO coming but not for 2-3 months.

I could really use a creative idea to store a lot of data. I have the tapes just not 
the slots inside my Magstar.

Thanks Miles


--
Miles Purdy 
System Manager
Farm Income Programs Directorate
Winnipeg, MB, CA
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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Deleting RMAN versions

Can anyone tell me how to delete orphaned RMAN backup versions from the TSM
database?
Our DBAs have deleted the catalog entries and now I'm left with these
orphaned versions that I can see with the show version command but I don't
know how to delete.

TIA,
Jim

Re: Help! I need more space

[Martin, Jon R.]

Miles,

One small improvement might be to decrease the tape delay reuse
period.  It might give you a few extra scratch tapes.

-Original Message-
From: Miles Purdy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 9:47 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Help! I need more space


Hi folks,

I have a situation where our company has two backups systems, TSM being one
of them. The 'other' backup system doesn't work for various reasons and we
are planning to move the servers that backup to it to TSM. On the weekend
that other system fell a part. Now I need to backup about 500GBs into a
Magstar L32 that really doesn't have that much space. I'm in a tight spot
and I need some creative ways to backup that much data. Here's what I've
been trying:

- turn collocation off, or from 'filespace' to 'on'
- reviewing old nodes and the largest filespaces, but this didn't save to
much
- I don't think I can reduce any copies or the length of time that the
copies are stored

Here's what I do have:
- I do have 8 x 36 GB disks that will be here soon
- a ton of tapes, no room in the Magstar, but I must have 200-300 extra
tapes
- I also have 24 x 18.2 GB disks right now that are used for my disk pools
and 4 x 9.1 GB disks that are used

So I was thinking I that I could:
1. use the 36 GB disks for a primary pool. Still sending the data offsite
(copy pool) because I have a lot of tapes, OR,
2. start taking tapes out of the Magstar and just setting them aside, when
they are full

I do have a LTO coming but not for 2-3 months.

I could really use a creative idea to store a lot of data. I have the tapes
just not the slots inside my Magstar.

Thanks Miles



--
Miles Purdy
System Manager
Farm Income Programs Directorate
Winnipeg, MB, CA
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
ph: (204) 984-1602 fax: (204) 983-7557

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Re: Deleting RMAN versions

Eric,
 No I'm using version 2.1 is that utility available in 2.1?




"Loon, E.J. van - SPLXM" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>@VM.MARIST.EDU> on
12/11/2001 10:54:16 AM

Please respond to "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Sent by:  "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
cc:

Subject:  Re: Deleting RMAN versions


Hi James!
What version of TDP are you using? If it's 2.2, you can use the tdposync
utility.
Kindest regards,
Eric van Loon
KLM Royal Dutch Airlines


-Original Message-
From:   [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 16:30
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Deleting RMAN versions


Can anyone tell me how to delete orphaned RMAN backup versions from the TSM
database?
Our DBAs have deleted the catalog entries and now I'm left with these
orphaned versions that I can see with the show version command but I don't
know how to delete.

TIA,
Jim


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Re: TSM upgrade

[Cook, Dwight E (SAIC)]

Have you ever had a finger check in an admin session and when you ment to
issue a "q pr" you only hit "pr"  ?
PREPARE  (Create a Recovery Plan File)
I have some environments that I've done that and it has put some hook into
the system where those environments have the DRM in use flag and I haven't
figured out how to get rid of it YET !

personally I think Tivoli should provide us with a FIX to turn that off !
maybe I'll call it in as a problem ;-)

Dwight
in the same spot as you
Cook


-Original Message-
From: Loon, E.J. van - SPLXM [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 7:57 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: TSM upgrade


Hi Orville!
Thanks for your reply!
I actually installed 4.2.1.8, but for some reason 4.2.0.0 was started. A
stop/start of TSM fixed this.
I removed the nodelock file an re-registered all the licenses, but it still
reports:

Is Tivoli Disaster Recovery Manager in use ?: Yes
Is Tivoli Disaster Recovery Manager licensed ?: No

Why does TSM think that DRM is in use? I do not!
Kindest regards,
Eric van Loon
KLM Royal Dutch Airlines


-Original Message-
From: Orville L. Lantto [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 22:22
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: TSM upgrade


1) You must manually remove the DRM stanza from the file "nodelock" in the
server/bin directory.
2) This command was broken, fixed, broken again, and fixed again.  It works
in my 4.2.1.8.

Orville L. Lantto
Datatrend Technologies, Inc.
121 Cheshire Lane #700
Minnetonka, MN 55305
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
V: 952-931-1203
F: 952-931-1293
C: 612-770-9166



"Loon, E.J.
van - SPLXM" To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: TSM upgrade
Sent by:
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Stor Manager"
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12/10/01
10:21 AM
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Stor Manager"






Hi *SM-ers!
I've just upgraded my AIX server from 3.7.4 to 4.2.1.8 and I encounter two
problems:
1) For some reason TSM thinks I'm using DRM. I'm not. How do I correct
this?
2) a Reg lic file=50mgsyslan.lic updates the license to 50 clients. Running
it twice still gives me 50 licenses. Running a Reg lic file=50mgsyslan.lic
number=2 still gives me 50 licenses. How do I enter the correct value: 110?
Thanks in advance for any reply!!!
Kindest regards,
Eric van Loon
KLM Royal Dutch Airlines


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Re: Deleting RMAN versions

[Loon, E.J. van - SPLXM]

Hi James!
What version of TDP are you using? If it's 2.2, you can use the tdposync
utility.
Kindest regards,
Eric van Loon
KLM Royal Dutch Airlines


-Original Message-
From:   [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 16:30
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Deleting RMAN versions


Can anyone tell me how to delete orphaned RMAN backup versions from the TSM
database?
Our DBAs have deleted the catalog entries and now I'm left with these
orphaned versions that I can see with the show version command but I don't
know how to delete.

TIA,
Jim


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Re: Help! I need more space

[Miles Purdy]

Thanks, it is set to one (day) right now.
miles


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System Manager
Farm Income Programs Directorate
Winnipeg, MB, CA
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11-Dec-01 9:21:15 AM >>>
Miles,

One small improvement might be to decrease the tape delay reuse
period.  It might give you a few extra scratch tapes.

-Original Message-
From: Miles Purdy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 9:47 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Subject: Help! I need more space


Hi folks,

I have a situation where our company has two backups systems, TSM being one
of them. The 'other' backup system doesn't work for various reasons and we
are planning to move the servers that backup to it to TSM. On the weekend
that other system fell a part. Now I need to backup about 500GBs into a
Magstar L32 that really doesn't have that much space. I'm in a tight spot
and I need some creative ways to backup that much data. Here's what I've
been trying:

- turn collocation off, or from 'filespace' to 'on'
- reviewing old nodes and the largest filespaces, but this didn't save to
much
- I don't think I can reduce any copies or the length of time that the
copies are stored

Here's what I do have:
- I do have 8 x 36 GB disks that will be here soon
- a ton of tapes, no room in the Magstar, but I must have 200-300 extra
tapes
- I also have 24 x 18.2 GB disks right now that are used for my disk pools
and 4 x 9.1 GB disks that are used

So I was thinking I that I could:
1. use the 36 GB disks for a primary pool. Still sending the data offsite
(copy pool) because I have a lot of tapes, OR,
2. start taking tapes out of the Magstar and just setting them aside, when
they are full

I do have a LTO coming but not for 2-3 months.

I could really use a creative idea to store a lot of data. I have the tapes
just not the slots inside my Magstar.

Thanks Miles



--
Miles Purdy
System Manager
Farm Income Programs Directorate
Winnipeg, MB, CA
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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"If you hold a UNIX shell up to your ear, can you hear the C?"

-

Re: Offsite Volume sort of missing.

[Malbrough, Demetrius]

Try this:

Q DRM volser

MOVE DRM volser wherest=Vaultretrieve tost=onsiteretrieve

-Original Message-
From: Gill, Geoffrey L. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 10:21 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Offsite Volume sort of missing.


I have a strange phenomenon that occurred with one of my offsite tapes. The
tape was written on the 9th as you can see below. It was supposed to be
checked out on the morning of the 10th but it was not. All data points to it
being what it says it is yet I can't figure out why this happened. mtlib
showed the tape in FF00 status this morning, waiting for checkin, but when I
ran checkin it said it could not be assigned a status of scratch.

If I query the act log for the tape number anytime the last 4 days and I see
nothing, this is very strange In fact I don't even see anything in the
activity log on this tape for a week. I would have thought seeing it in q
volhist there should be something. I'm running AIX 4.3.3 with TSM
4.2.1.7. Things have been very quiet since the .7 patch was installed.

Any ideas anyone?

QUERY ACTLOG BEGINDATE=12/07/2001 BEGINTIME=08:00 ENDDATE=12/11/2001
ENDTIME=07:00 SEARCH=U00404 ORIGINATOR=ALL

ANR2034E QUERY ACTLOG: No match found using this criteria.

   Volume Name: U00404
 Storage Pool Name: OFFSITE_POOL
 Device Class Name: 3590CLASS
   Estimated Capacity (MB): 18,224.6
  Pct Util: 99.7
 Volume Status: Full
Access: Offsite
Pct. Reclaimable Space: 0.3
   Scratch Volume?: Yes
   In Error State?: No
  Number of Writable Sides: 1
   Number of Times Mounted: 1
 Write Pass Number: 1
 Approx. Date Last Written: 11/09/01 08:52:39
Approx. Date Last Read: 11/09/01 08:25:25
   Date Became Pending:
Number of Write Errors: 0
 Number of Read Errors: 0
   Volume Location: Arcus
Last Update by (administrator): GEOFF
 Last Update Date/Time: 11/10/01 03:01:26

 Q volhist:

   Date/Time: 11/05/01 07:09:24
 Volume Type: STGDELETE
   Backup Series:
Backup Operation:
  Volume Seq:
Device Class: 3590CLASS
 Volume Name: U00404
 Volume Location:
 Command:

   Date/Time: 11/09/01 08:24:55
 Volume Type: STGNEW
   Backup Series:
Backup Operation:
  Volume Seq:
Device Class: 3590CLASS
 Volume Name: U00404
 Volume Location:
 Command:


Geoff Gill
TSM Administrator
NT Systems Support Engineer
SAIC
E-Mail:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Phone:  (858) 826-4062
Pager:   (888) 997-9614

HP SureStore 1200mx/2200 mx support

[Diego Fdo. Rivera]

Hello!

Anyone using HP SureStore 1200mx or HPSureStore 200mx with TSM 3.7  (or TSM
4.2) on AIX 4.3.3 ?

These devices do not appear in the Web site for device support.

Thanks in advance

Diego Fdo. Rivera

AW: Help on Exporting, then Importing a node.

[Baines, Paul]

I had this problem, specify * instead of the domain name and it will import
all the domains on the export volume (you probably just exported the one
domain anyway?)

Mit freundlichen Grüßen - With best regards
Serdeczne pozdrowienia - Slan agus beannacht
Paul Baines
TSM/ADSM Consultant


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Betreff: Help on Exporting, then Importing a node.


I want to copy a client from one TSM to another.  I've already exported the
node and the Policy domain.  When I tried importing the Policy Domain, I got
a No matching Domains message.  Does anyone have a way to this so I don't
have to define all the domains?

Thanks


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Re: TSM Scheduler in a Solaris TDP for Oracle Environment

[Vic Marshall]

Thanks for the info, Bill - very helpful.

Vic

-Original Message-
From: Bill Mansfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 10 December 2001 14:45
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: TSM Scheduler in a Solaris TDP for Oracle Environment


One needs to create 2 stanzas in the dsm.sys file, one for regular backups,
one for Oracle.  Each "Servername" line starts a new stanza.  You'll also
need to set a nodename if you're sending the Oracle data to a different
domain.

dsm.sys:
   Servername Aserver
   TCPPort1500
   TCPServeraddress   Aserver
   passwordaccess generate
   nodenameclient
   ...
   Servername  Aserver_Orc
   TCPPort1500
   TCPServeraddress   Aserver
   passwordaccess  prompt
   nodename   client_orc
   ...

In Oracle TDP dsm.opt file:
  Servername   Aserver_Orc

In the regular dsm.opt file:
  Servername   Aserver
_
William Mansfield
Senior Consultant
Solution Technology, Inc




Vic Marshall
   cc:
Sent by: "ADSM:  Subject: TSM Scheduler in a
Solaris TDP for Oracle Environment
Dist Stor Manager"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]
EDU>


12/10/2001 04:31
AM
Please respond to
"ADSM: Dist Stor
Manager"






Greetings TSM'ers,

I have a question regarding using the TSM scheduler in an Oracle TDP
environment (Solaris7) the vital statistics are:

TSM Server version 4.1.4 on Windows NT4, SP6A.
TSM Client version 4.2 on Solaris V2.7.
TDP for Oracle V2.2 for Solaris.

The TDP requires PASSWORDACCESS PROMPT to be set in the options
file, to enable the scheduler to backup the oracle data via the TDP.

This now has the knock on effect of stopping the schedules for all other
filespace backups on that particular server, as PASSWORDACCESS must be set
to GENERATE.

I can setup a cron command to backup all non-oracle filespaces, but i would
rather use the built in TSM scheduler if possible.

Surely someone else has hit upon this problem,

Thanks in advance,

Vic


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Offsite Volume sort of missing.

[Gill, Geoffrey L.]

I have a strange phenomenon that occurred with one of my offsite tapes. The
tape was written on the 9th as you can see below. It was supposed to be
checked out on the morning of the 10th but it was not. All data points to it
being what it says it is yet I can't figure out why this happened. mtlib
showed the tape in FF00 status this morning, waiting for checkin, but when I
ran checkin it said it could not be assigned a status of scratch.

If I query the act log for the tape number anytime the last 4 days and I see
nothing, this is very strange In fact I don't even see anything in the
activity log on this tape for a week. I would have thought seeing it in q
volhist there should be something. I'm running AIX 4.3.3 with TSM
4.2.1.7. Things have been very quiet since the .7 patch was installed.

Any ideas anyone?

QUERY ACTLOG BEGINDATE=12/07/2001 BEGINTIME=08:00 ENDDATE=12/11/2001
ENDTIME=07:00 SEARCH=U00404 ORIGINATOR=ALL

ANR2034E QUERY ACTLOG: No match found using this criteria.

   Volume Name: U00404
 Storage Pool Name: OFFSITE_POOL
 Device Class Name: 3590CLASS
   Estimated Capacity (MB): 18,224.6
  Pct Util: 99.7
 Volume Status: Full
Access: Offsite
Pct. Reclaimable Space: 0.3
   Scratch Volume?: Yes
   In Error State?: No
  Number of Writable Sides: 1
   Number of Times Mounted: 1
 Write Pass Number: 1
 Approx. Date Last Written: 11/09/01 08:52:39
Approx. Date Last Read: 11/09/01 08:25:25
   Date Became Pending:
Number of Write Errors: 0
 Number of Read Errors: 0
   Volume Location: Arcus
Last Update by (administrator): GEOFF
 Last Update Date/Time: 11/10/01 03:01:26

 Q volhist:

   Date/Time: 11/05/01 07:09:24
 Volume Type: STGDELETE
   Backup Series:
Backup Operation:
  Volume Seq:
Device Class: 3590CLASS
 Volume Name: U00404
 Volume Location:
 Command:

   Date/Time: 11/09/01 08:24:55
 Volume Type: STGNEW
   Backup Series:
Backup Operation:
  Volume Seq:
Device Class: 3590CLASS
 Volume Name: U00404
 Volume Location:
 Command:


Geoff Gill
TSM Administrator
NT Systems Support Engineer
SAIC
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Phone:  (858) 826-4062
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Re: mtlib/tapeutil not able to access 3590's

[mike_crawford]

I wonder if that might be the problem.  I'll get someone to try accessing the
drive as root, and adjust the permissions accordingly.

Here's one of my drives:

lrwxrwxrwx   1 root other 54 Dec  7 12:02 /dev/rmt/6st -> 
../../devices/sbus@f,0/QLGC,isp@0,1/IBMtape@0,0:st


crw---   1 root sys  158,3072 Dec 11 09:08 
/devices/sbus@f,0/QLGC,isp@0,1/IBMtape@0,0:st



Thanks,
Mike




>Here are the permissions on one of my tape drives
>lrwxrwxrwx   1 root other 55 Oct 24 17:52 /dev/rmt/8st ->
>.../../devices/sbus@12,0/QLGC,isp@2,1/IBMtape@0,0:st
>
>root@tsmsrv10> ls -l devices/sbus@12,0/QLGC,isp@2,1/IBMtape@0,0:st
>crw-rw-rw-   1 bin  bin  163,5120 Dec  1 00:19
>devices/sbus@12,0/QLGC,isp@2,1/IBMtape@0,0:st
>
>but in my sun environment I'm still at 4.0.4.6 of IBMtape
>
>Now did you check to ensure that tape drive wasn't in use by TSM at the time

>!?!
>that would prevent access...
>
>Dwight
>
>-Original Message-
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 2:49 PM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: mtlib/tapeutil not able to access 3590's
>
>
>Good Afternoon,
>
>Since we upgraded IBMtape from 3.0.3.2 to 4.0.4.7, mtlib and tapeutil are
>not
>able to access any of our 3590's in a 3494.
>
>Example:
>mtlib -l magstor3 -f /dev/rmt/3st -qD
>mtlib: Unable to open device special file /dev/rmt/3st: Permission denied
>
>Everything is working fine ADSM-wise, and we can still query the 3494.  Not

>being the Sysadmin for the actual server (and it being located in another
>country),
>I don't have a lot of access to that machine.
>
>The server is SunOS 2.6,  ADSM v3.1.
>
>Any information you've got would help immeasurably.
>
>Thanks,
>Mike
>

Re: Offsite Volume sort of missing.

[Nicholas Cassimatis]

Since there is data on the tape, you won't be able to check it in as
Scratch, you'll have to do it as Private.  Then you can check the tape out
as normal.

Nick Cassimatis
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Today is the tomorrow of yesterday.

Re: Point system has me very confused

[Prather, Wanda]

LOU GERSTNER, WHAT WERE YOU THINKING?!?!?

MY BEEF with this whole issue, is that the point system confusion is STILL a
problem.  Guys, the point system thing (officially called "Value-Based
Pricing") was announced in JULY OF 2000.  THAT'S 17 MONTHS ago.  And
customers are STILL having a problem with it.  And customers are STILL
getting different answers, depending on which reseller or Tivoli office they
talk to (assuming, of course, a Tivoli office will talk to them at all.)
And resellers get different answers, depending on which Tivoli office they
talk to (assuming, of course, that a Tivoli office will talk to them at
all).

It took us 9 MONTHS to get our maintenance contract renewed because of this
mess, with some behavior from Tivoli that I can't repeat here but I will
euphemistically call "inappropriate language to a customer".

And TIVOLI DOES NOTHING TO CLEAN UP THE MESS, which is pretty representative
of Tivoli corps behavior since taking over marketing of this first class
product.

I keep holding my breath for fear that the good people who developed and
support the product are going to get fed up and bail out, in which case we
are all toast.

LOU GERSTNER, WHAT WERE YOU THINKING WHEN YOUR TURNED YOUR ADSM CUSTOMERS
OVER TO TIVOLI??!???

My opinions and nobody else's.

Wanda Prather



-Original Message-
From: Ted Byrne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 12:11 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Point system has me very confused


  Dwight,

 >Looking into things you realize that on 20 existing machines you have
 >NEVER use software distribution SO you just drop it from those
 >20 machines and use the "freed points" to apply towards TSM client &
 >TWS points for your new 12 machines.

Unfortunately, I believe that this is not correct.  According to the
discussions with Tivoli that we've had (as a reseller), the points are
transferrable only within the confines of a Product Number.  This is true
even for products that one might think of as components of the same product.

For example, you might have a stable of 10 Unix servers that you're backing
up with TDP/Oracle (Product 5698-DPO).  Being Tier-2 systems, the list
price is 200 points each client, about $62,000 total.

Your company announces an acquisition of a company, and in the course of
hashing out the details of the transition, it is decided that the merged
company will standardize on DB2 as a database platform.  In addition, they
have 100 Unix web servers that are being backed up with a product that
nobody likes.  TSM is selected as the standard backup method for the merged
company.

In our understanding, (someone from Tivoli correct me if I am wrong about
this, please!) you may not transfer the 2000 fallow points from your
existing 5698-DPO "bucket" to the 5698-TSM (Managed System - LAN) product
that is required to backup your web servers.  Total list price: 1500
points, about $46,500.

Again, this is how it was explained to us; if someone from Tivoli can
correct me, I'd be happy to hear otherwise.

Quoting from the Tivoli Quick Quoter tool: "Tivoli Points are Product
Specific".

Ted Byrne

Re: Client unable to login after its first scheduled event

[Kelly Lipp]

I spoke with IBM this morning about this problem.  We believe we are hot on
the trail of this problem.

Briefly as I believe someone within IBM will follow this up soon:

In the 4.2 release of the client, the notion of server affinity was
introduced.  This means that when the client connects and establishes a
password this password is stored along with the name of the server.  If a
client communicates with multiple servers there will be multiple
server/password entries.  This is all fine and good.  However, if you change
the name of your server, set server newname, then connect the client again,
it will need to get a new password from you in order to connect
successfully.  You can see this on a Windows client by looking at the
registry entries for this stuff.  What isn't happening is the password from
the original server is not being copied to the new server stanza (the
assumption is that the new server is a completely new server: different TSM
server, so the password is unlikely to be the same.  This is a bad
assumption when all that changed was the name of the server!).

IBM is discussing a fix, but I'm thinking in the meantime refrain from
renaming your server is you are running a 4.2.x client.  Unless you are
willing to go around to all of your clients and enter a new password.  If
you do change the name and have the problem, I would think changing it back
will fix the problem for you temporarily.

Wait for more news from official channels.

Thanks,

Kelly J. Lipp
Storage Solutions Specialists, Inc.
PO Box 51313
Colorado Springs, CO 80949
[EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.storsol.com or www.storserver.com
(719)531-5926
Fax: (240)539-7175


-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 6:07 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Client unable to login after its first scheduled event


Has anyone seen or experienced this problem?

It happened about 12 - 15 days after we migrated our server from 3.7.4 to
4.2.0.


> This example does not involve any of  the third party clients.  It is the
> most basic
> example shown.  I still have been unsuccessful in capturing a trace of
> these events.
>
>
> node which failed:  [Bean, David]  aix 433 node  scheduler is running or
> has stopped running.  In this case a did a dsmc was prompted for login,
> logged in,  and scheduler restarted itself.
> ps -ef | grep dsm
>  / # ps -ef | grep dsm
> root  5710 31824   0 19:03:13  pts/3  0:00 dsmc
> root  6632 1   0 19:04:21  -  0:00
> /usr/tivoli/tsm/client/ba/bin/dsmc sched
> root 35630 26146   1 19:09:21  pts/4  0:00 grep dsm
>  / #
>
> / # dsmc
> Tivoli Storage Manager
> Command Line Backup Client Interface - Version 3, Release 7, Level 2.26
> (C) Copyright IBM Corporation, 1990, 2000, All Rights Reserved.
>
> tsm> q sched
> tsm> q sched
> Node Name:  [Bean, David]  
> Session established with server RYE_ADSM: AIX-RS/6000
>   Server Version 4, Release 2, Level 0.0
>   Server date/time: 12/10/01   19:05:28  Last access: 12/10/01   19:04:23
>
> Schedule Name:  [Bean, David]  INCRabc
>   Description:
>Action: Incremental
>   Options: -subdir=yes
>   Objects:
>  Priority: 5
>Next Execution: 21 Hours and 55 Minutes
>  Duration: 1 Hour
>Period: 1 Day
>   Day of Week: Any
>Expire: Never
>
> 12/05/01   17:02:31 --- SCHEDULEREC QUERY BEGIN
> 12/05/01   17:02:31 --- SCHEDULEREC QUERY END
> 12/05/01   17:02:31 Next operation scheduled:
> 12/05/01   17:02:31
> 
> 12/05/01   17:02:31 Schedule Name:  [Bean, David]  INCRabc
>  12/05/01   17:02:31 Action:Incremental
> 12/05/01   17:02:31 Objects:
> 12/05/01   17:02:31 Options:   -subdir=yes
> 12/05/01   17:02:31 Server Window Start:   17:00:00 on 12/06/01
> 12/05/01   17:02:31
> 
> 12/05/01   17:02:31 Schedule will be refreshed in 12 hours.
> 12/06/01   05:02:31 Querying server for next scheduled event.
> 12/06/01   05:02:31 Node Name:  [Bean, David]  abcdefg
>  12/06/01   05:02:31 ANS1029E Communications have been dropped.
> 12/06/01   05:02:31 Scheduler has been stopped.
>
> 12/06/01   05:02:33 Querying server for next scheduled event.
> 12/06/01   05:02:33 Node Name:  [Bean, David]  abcdefg
>  12/06/01   05:02:33 Please enter your user id < [Bean, David]  abcdefg>:
> ANS1029E Communication
> s have been dropped.
> 12/06/01   05:02:33 Scheduler has been stopped.
> 12/06/01   05:02:35 Querying server for next scheduled event.
> 12/06/01   05:02:35 Node Name:  [Bean, David]  abcdefg
> 12/06/01   05:02:35 Please enter your user id < [Bean, David]  abcdefg >:
> ANS1029E Communication
> s have been dropped.
> 12/06/01   05:02:35 Scheduler has been stopped.
>
> 12/06/01   05:02:37 Querying server for next scheduled event.
> 12/06/01  

Win2k Server Recovery using TSM 4.2.1.0

[Lilly, David]

I am having a difficult time performing a complete recovery of a Win2k SP2
member server running IIS.  I am using TSM client 4.2.1.0 (before and after)
on the server.

I located a Redbook,
http://publib-b.boulder.ibm.com/Redbooks.nsf/RedbookAbstracts/sg246141.html?
Open
 , which was helpful, but seems to be out of date.  For example, in
section 6.2.3.5 Step 11, letter b. does not occur.  Also, the restore does
not run cleanly.  I get one error, ANS1335E (Importing RSM database files
failed...).  In addition, the IIS services (FTP, WWW, SMTP) do not start
after the reboot, Event ID 7023 An attempt was made to reference a token
that does not exist.  The DSM.OPT file referenced in the Redbook was used to
back up the server.

I have tried the Redbook procedure carefully three times without success.

Is there another procedure available for recovering a Win2k server using
TSM?  Using TSM client 4.2.1.0?

Any other suggestions?

Thanks,

David Lilly

Re: Point system has me very confused

[Gill, Geoffrey L.]

>And TIVOLI DOES NOTHING TO CLEAN UP THE MESS, which is pretty
>representative
>of Tivoli corps behavior since taking over marketing of this
>first class
>product.

Wanda,
Nicely put..I would have used the expletives though.

Geoff Gill
TSM Administrator
NT Systems Support Engineer
SAIC
E-Mail:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Phone:  (858) 826-4062
Pager:   (888) 997-9614

Re: Win2k Server Recovery using TSM 4.2.1.0

[Lilly, David]

Thanks Matt!  IIS problem resolved.  I wonder if TSM is corrupting the file
during the "complete" System Object restore, step 11.

Also, can anyone recommend a good DSM.OPT template for Win2k?  I noticed in
the TSM 4.2.1.0 readme that System Objects will no longer be affected by
INCLUDE AND EXCLUDE statements, i.e., INCLUDE C:\ADSM.SYS\...\* is no longer
required.

Thanks again,

David

> -Original Message-
> From: Adams, Matt (US - Hermitage) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 2:04 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Win2k Server Recovery using TSM 4.2.1.0
>
> I have run into this before.  In most cases if you will restore
> metabase.bin
> back to c:\winnt\system32\inetsrv\  your IIS services should start back up
> after restoring and booting.  I am not sure why this file does not restore
> back properly.  I am   running into this on E2K DR testing because it
> relies
> on IIS.
>
> I hope this helps.
>
> Matt
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Lilly, David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 11:54 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Win2k Server Recovery using TSM 4.2.1.0
>
>
> I am having a difficult time performing a complete recovery of a Win2k SP2
> member server running IIS.  I am using TSM client 4.2.1.0 (before and
> after)
> on the server.
>
> I located a Redbook,
> http://publib-
> b.boulder.ibm.com/Redbooks.nsf/RedbookAbstracts/sg246141.html?
> Open
>  b.boulder.ibm.com/Redbooks.nsf/RedbookAbstracts/sg246141.html
> ?Open> , which was helpful, but seems to be out of date.  For example, in
> section 6.2.3.5 Step 11, letter b. does not occur.  Also, the restore does
> not run cleanly.  I get one error, ANS1335E (Importing RSM database files
> failed...).  In addition, the IIS services (FTP, WWW, SMTP) do not start
> after the reboot, Event ID 7023 An attempt was made to reference a token
> that does not exist.  The DSM.OPT file referenced in the Redbook was used
> to
> back up the server.
>
> I have tried the Redbook procedure carefully three times without success.
>
> Is there another procedure available for recovering a Win2k server using
> TSM?  Using TSM client 4.2.1.0?
>
> Any other suggestions?
>
> Thanks,
>
> David Lilly
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Re: Win2k Server Recovery using TSM 4.2.1.0

[Adams, Matt (US - Hermitage)]

I have run into this before.  In most cases if you will restore metabase.bin
back to c:\winnt\system32\inetsrv\  your IIS services should start back up
after restoring and booting.  I am not sure why this file does not restore
back properly.  I am   running into this on E2K DR testing because it relies
on IIS.

I hope this helps.

Matt



-Original Message-
From: Lilly, David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 11:54 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Win2k Server Recovery using TSM 4.2.1.0


I am having a difficult time performing a complete recovery of a Win2k SP2
member server running IIS.  I am using TSM client 4.2.1.0 (before and after)
on the server.

I located a Redbook,
http://publib-b.boulder.ibm.com/Redbooks.nsf/RedbookAbstracts/sg246141.html?
Open
 , which was helpful, but seems to be out of date.  For example, in
section 6.2.3.5 Step 11, letter b. does not occur.  Also, the restore does
not run cleanly.  I get one error, ANS1335E (Importing RSM database files
failed...).  In addition, the IIS services (FTP, WWW, SMTP) do not start
after the reboot, Event ID 7023 An attempt was made to reference a token
that does not exist.  The DSM.OPT file referenced in the Redbook was used to
back up the server.

I have tried the Redbook procedure carefully three times without success.

Is there another procedure available for recovering a Win2k server using
TSM?  Using TSM client 4.2.1.0?

Any other suggestions?

Thanks,

David Lilly
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Re: Point system has me very confused

[Kauffman, Tom]

>My opinions and nobody else's.

Well, I'll sign on -- matches my opinion as well.

Also, has anyone else noticed that this whole "value-based pricing" shtik
amounted to a 25% to 200% price increase?

Client code used to be $100 - NT, Mac, Unix, we don't care. Now it's $124
(if the $31/pt is valid -- we were quoted $42/pt) for NT/Mac and $217 for
most Unix clients. (Or maybe $168 and $294).

I don't have my point-counts handy, but from the same source that gave me
$42 per point, the TDP/R3 module which was around $9,000 as backint is now
around $18,000 worth of points.

And I still haven't found an openly accessable list of all the TSM features
and the relevant point counts (unless the web site has updated -- last time
I was there, I couldn't do the client license by itself).

Oh - and we upgraded via passport advantage to get to 3.7 from 3.1, with the
included maintenance. The support via our advantage contract expired in
October, and we haven't been invoiced yet for the next year's support. Among
other things, there's been a three-way 'discussion' as to whether IBM, our
VAR, or Tivoli should be doing the billing . . .

I wish IBM would pull TSM back from Tivoli -- or stand on Tivoli marketing
and support.

Tom Kauffman
NIBCO, Inc

> -Original Message-
> From: Prather, Wanda [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 12:55 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Point system has me very confused
>
>
> LOU GERSTNER, WHAT WERE YOU THINKING?!?!?
>
> MY BEEF with this whole issue, is that the point system
> confusion is STILL a
> problem.  Guys, the point system thing (officially called "Value-Based
> Pricing") was announced in JULY OF 2000.  THAT'S 17 MONTHS ago.  And
> customers are STILL having a problem with it.  And customers are STILL
> getting different answers, depending on which reseller or
> Tivoli office they
> talk to (assuming, of course, a Tivoli office will talk to
> them at all.)
> And resellers get different answers, depending on which
> Tivoli office they
> talk to (assuming, of course, that a Tivoli office will talk
> to them at
> all).
>
> It took us 9 MONTHS to get our maintenance contract renewed
> because of this
> mess, with some behavior from Tivoli that I can't repeat here
> but I will
> euphemistically call "inappropriate language to a customer".
>
> And TIVOLI DOES NOTHING TO CLEAN UP THE MESS, which is pretty
> representative
> of Tivoli corps behavior since taking over marketing of this
> first class
> product.
>
> I keep holding my breath for fear that the good people who
> developed and
> support the product are going to get fed up and bail out, in
> which case we
> are all toast.
>
> LOU GERSTNER, WHAT WERE YOU THINKING WHEN YOUR TURNED YOUR
> ADSM CUSTOMERS
> OVER TO TIVOLI??!???
>
> My opinions and nobody else's.>
> Wanda Prather
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Ted Byrne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 12:11 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Point system has me very confused
>
>
>   Dwight,
>
>  >Looking into things you realize that on 20 existing
> machines you have
>  >NEVER use software distribution SO you just drop it from those
>  >20 machines and use the "freed points" to apply towards TSM client &
>  >TWS points for your new 12 machines.
>
> Unfortunately, I believe that this is not correct.  According to the
> discussions with Tivoli that we've had (as a reseller), the points are
> transferrable only within the confines of a Product Number.
> This is true
> even for products that one might think of as components of
> the same product.
>
> For example, you might have a stable of 10 Unix servers that
> you're backing
> up with TDP/Oracle (Product 5698-DPO).  Being Tier-2 systems, the list
> price is 200 points each client, about $62,000 total.
>
> Your company announces an acquisition of a company, and in
> the course of
> hashing out the details of the transition, it is decided that
> the merged
> company will standardize on DB2 as a database platform.  In
> addition, they
> have 100 Unix web servers that are being backed up with a product that
> nobody likes.  TSM is selected as the standard backup method
> for the merged
> company.
>
> In our understanding, (someone from Tivoli correct me if I am
> wrong about
> this, please!) you may not transfer the 2000 fallow points from your
> existing 5698-DPO "bucket" to the 5698-TSM (Managed System -
> LAN) product
> that is required to backup your web servers.  Total list price: 1500
> points, about $46,500.
>
> Again, this is how it was explained to us; if someone from Tivoli can
> correct me, I'd be happy to hear otherwise.
>
> Quoting from the Tivoli Quick Quoter tool: "Tivoli Points are Product
> Specific".
>
> Ted Byrne
>

TDP Oracle 2.2 with SAP R/3 on HP-UX

[Thiha Than]

hi,


>We are trying to use TDP Oracle 2.2 with SAP R/3 4.5 on HP-UX 11.0 and
>Oracle 8.0.6.
>I know this is not the recommended configuration... we will probably look
>at TDP for R/3 next year.  In the meantime, our SAP Basis team wants to
get
>familiar with RMAN, so we're trying TDPO.

>The problem is in linking TDPO into Oracle.  I already have it linked for
>another Oracle instance on the same box, using Oracle 8.1.6.  That one
>worked just like the manual states, by linking $ORACLE_HOME/lib/libobk.sl
>to /usr/lib/libobk.sl.   But the SAP instance did not have a libobk.sl,
>instead it had a libobk.a.ora.   We tried removing that file, then doing
>the link as the manual states.

>But wait... then I realized the instructions for Oracle 8.0.x were
>different we should run a 'make' command did that, and it seemed
to
>work OK, but it isn't working.  Message from RMAN says it is looking for
>/usr/lib/libobk.sl

>Then I saw a post out here saying the TDPO manual actually refers to the
>Oracle README file, which I checked the README says the relink
('make'
>command) is no longer needed, and gives similar instructions as TDPO
manual
>to create a symbolic link...

>Now we're very confused for Oracle 8.0.6 do we need to relink (make),
>or create a symbolic link?   And, is there something special about R/3
that
>uses a different file than libobk.sl?  Has anyone else attempted doing
TDPO
>with R/3?   Or are there issues with running two different releases of
>Oracle on the same machine?


I've never tried with R3 and TDPO but we have machines with two different
Oracle level using one libobk.  For Oracle 8.0.6 you will have to
relink(make) and on 8.1.x just creating a soft link from
$ORACLE_HOME/lib/libobk.sl to /usr/lib/libobk.sl is enough.  The
instructions in the manual is correct.  Please make sure to add -lC when
you run 'make' command to relink for 8.0.x.  You mentioned that your
linking was correct and RMAN was looking for /usr/lib/libobk.sl.  What is
/usr/lib/libobk.sl pointing to?  It is supposed to be a soft link to
/opt/tivoli/tsm/client/oracle/bin/libobk.sl.  Can you give me the exact
error that RMAN is reporting?

regards,
Thiha

listener not listening

[Suad Musovich]

AIX4.3.3/TSM4.2.1.7

The main listener on port 1500 of our TSM server is open but not acknowledging
when clients connect. They hang on "SYN_RCVD"

Actually, it only allows a small proportion of connections.

When the TSM server starts up, everything works as normal. But when a volume of
clients start connecting, it virtually stops all new connections.

Any clients that can successfully connect, operate as normal.

I've checked if any other services in the OS that may be listening on that
port and have been sniffing the interface for unusual traffic. Nothing unusual
has been found.

Anyone have similar probs?

Cheers, Suad
--

Re: Point system has me very confused

[Richard L. Rhodes]

I agree.

The last time we needed to order more client licenses it was
impossible to get someone from Tivoli to even talk to us.  We wanted
to spend money, but they wouldn't respond to emails or voice mails.
I found this amazing!  I had to get our local IBM storage rep to
contact Tivoli before they would call us back.

Just amazing . . . . . .

Rick

On 11 Dec 2001 at 12:54, Prather, Wanda wrote:
> And customers are STILL
> getting different answers, depending on which reseller or Tivoli office they
> talk to (assuming, of course, a Tivoli office will talk to them at all.)
> And resellers get different answers, depending on which Tivoli office they
> talk to (assuming, of course, that a Tivoli office will talk to them at
> all).

Re: Win2k Server Recovery using TSM 4.2.1.0

[Rushforth, Tim]

The redbook was written based on the 4.1.2 client.  With the 4.2.1 client,
as you mentioned, you are no longer prompted with the 3 questions mentioned.

The error importing the RSM database is a bug in the client (APAR IC29545).
This is supposed to be fixed in 4.2.2 and is also on the latest patches
(4.2.1.15).  The bypass is to exclude the RSM when restoring the System
Ojbect.  Then reboot and restore only the RSM.

Note that the 4.2.1.0 client has a major bug for a lot of people, Scheduled
events show as failed when files are in use (APAR IC31844) - also fixed in
4.2.1.15.

Not sure about the IIS problems.

Tim Rushforth
City of Winnipeg

-Original Message-
From: Lilly, David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 11:54 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Win2k Server Recovery using TSM 4.2.1.0


I am having a difficult time performing a complete recovery of a Win2k SP2
member server running IIS.  I am using TSM client 4.2.1.0 (before and after)
on the server.

I located a Redbook,
http://publib-b.boulder.ibm.com/Redbooks.nsf/RedbookAbstracts/sg246141.html?
Open
 , which was helpful, but seems to be out of date.  For example, in
section 6.2.3.5 Step 11, letter b. does not occur.  Also, the restore does
not run cleanly.  I get one error, ANS1335E (Importing RSM database files
failed...).  In addition, the IIS services (FTP, WWW, SMTP) do not start
after the reboot, Event ID 7023 An attempt was made to reference a token
that does not exist.  The DSM.OPT file referenced in the Redbook was used to
back up the server.

I have tried the Redbook procedure carefully three times without success.

Is there another procedure available for recovering a Win2k server using
TSM?  Using TSM client 4.2.1.0?

Any other suggestions?

Thanks,

David Lilly

Re: Point system has me very confused

[Joshua S. Bassi]

Next time give me a call!  I work directly with an IBM distributor so I
can get you the best deal.


--
Joshua S. Bassi
Independent IT Consultant
IBM Certified - AIX/HACMP, SAN, Shark
Tivoli Certified Consultant- ADSM/TSM
Cell (408)&(831) 332-4006
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
Richard L. Rhodes
Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 11:06 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Point system has me very confused

I agree.

The last time we needed to order more client licenses it was
impossible to get someone from Tivoli to even talk to us.  We wanted
to spend money, but they wouldn't respond to emails or voice mails.
I found this amazing!  I had to get our local IBM storage rep to
contact Tivoli before they would call us back.

Just amazing . . . . . .

Rick

On 11 Dec 2001 at 12:54, Prather, Wanda wrote:
> And customers are STILL
> getting different answers, depending on which reseller or Tivoli
office they
> talk to (assuming, of course, a Tivoli office will talk to them at
all.)
> And resellers get different answers, depending on which Tivoli office
they
> talk to (assuming, of course, that a Tivoli office will talk to them
at
> all).

Re: Point system has me very confused

[Joe Faracchio]

This is dis-heartening, confusing, agravating, etc.

When it comes to unix and Windows-NT/2K/XP I don't know if its a client or
a server.   And until hearing this I didn't care.  Only cared about how
much data in how many  changed files they were sending me.

So when the 5001 free clients are taken away from 3466-NSM's
 (and you know that's gonna happen if Tivoli gets its way over the
  hardware division)
 then we will have to do a lot of work figuring this out.

Of course 'we' does not include me.  But my management and my succesor
is going to be unhappy.

sigh ... joe.f.

Joseph A Faracchio,  Systems Programmer, UC Berkeley
Private mail on any topic should be directed to :
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 (510)642-7638 (w)  (209)483-JOEF (M)
 5633
99 days until retirement.  I hope they don't announce early
retirement incentives in 100 days . sigh

On Mon, 10 Dec 2001, Bill Mansfield wrote:

> Here's the language from the announcement:
>
> A client is a computer system or process that requests a service of another
> computer system that is typically referred to as a server. Multiple clients
> may share access to a common server. A client has some processing
> capability, or is programmable to allow a user to do work. Examples include
> laptop computers, desktop computers, and desk-side computers.
>
> A server is a computer system that provides services to one or more
> clients, or other devices over a network. Examples include, but are not
> limited to, file servers, print servers, mail servers, database servers,
> application servers, and Web servers. A server is defined by its use in the
> customer's environment, not by its use in a Tivoli application.
>
> I take this to mean that clients are machines that do not provide services
> to other machines.  Your (unix?) CAD workstations are probably clients
> under this definition.  Each "client" would require a four point license.
>
> The good news (?) is that your excess points can be allocated to new
> clients that may come on board.
> _
> William Mansfield
> Senior Consultant
> Solution Technology, Inc

Re: Offsite Volume sort of missing.

[Jose Ramirez]

Nick is right, this has happened to me a number of times.  Tivoli has me
run an audit first, then follow the steps outlined by Chris

Jose



Nicholas
Cassimatis   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]cc:
M.COM>   Subject: Re: Offsite Volume sort of 
missing.
Sent by:
"ADSM: Dist
Stor Manager"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RIST.EDU>


12/11/01
12:43 PM
Please
respond to
"ADSM: Dist
Stor Manager"






Since there is data on the tape, you won't be able to check it in as
Scratch, you'll have to do it as Private.  Then you can check the tape out
as normal.

Nick Cassimatis
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Today is the tomorrow of yesterday.

Re: Win2k Server Recovery using TSM 4.2.1.0

[Prather, Wanda]

I don't know how "good" it is, but this is what we are using for Win2K
clients running 4.2.0.0:

/* This file creates the client option set winclient_412 */
/* These options are appended to the client's dsm.opt file */
/* The highest sequence number is processed first -no override applies for
inclexcl */
/* use force=yes for server to override client's dsm.opt file */
/* run from dsmadmc as a macro */

define cloptset winclient_412 description="Backup options for TSM 4.1.2
Win2K Clients"

define clientopt winclient_412 compression on
define clientopt winclient_412 maxcmdretries 99
define clientopt winclient_412 queryschedperiod 24
define clientopt winclient_412 retryperiod 20
define clientopt winclient_412 slowincr no
define clientopt winclient_412 subdir yes
define clientopt winclient_412 txnbytelimit 25600
define clientopt winclient_412 inclexcl "exclude *:\WINNT\CSC\...\*" seq=5
define clientopt winclient_412 inclexcl "exclude
*:\WINNT\REGISTRATION\*.CLB\...\*.CRMLOG" seq=10
define clientopt winclient_412 inclexcl "exclude *:\DOCUMENTS\...\INDEX.DAT"
seq=15
define clientopt winclient_412 inclexcl "exclude
*:\WINNT\SYSTEM32\DTCLOG\MSDTC.LOG" seq=25
define clientopt winclient_412 inclexcl "exclude *:\WINNT\NETLOGON.CHG"
seq=30
define clientopt winclient_412 inclexcl "exclude *:\WINNT\SCHEDLGU.TXT"
seq=40
define clientopt winclient_412 inclexcl "exclude *:\WINNT\DEBUG\*.*" seq=45
define clientopt winclient_412 inclexcl "exclude *:\IBMBIO.COM" seq=46
define clientopt winclient_412 inclexcl "exclude *:\IBMDOS.COM" seq=47
define clientopt winclient_412 inclexcl "exclude '*:\...\ea data. sf'"
seq=50
define clientopt winclient_412 inclexcl "exclude *:\...\*.swp" seq=55
define clientopt winclient_412 inclexcl "exclude *:\...\*.obj" seq=60
define clientopt winclient_412 inclexcl "exclude *:\...\*.csm" seq=65
define clientopt winclient_412 inclexcl "exclude *:\...\*.dsk" seq=70
define clientopt winclient_412 inclexcl "exclude *:\...\*.par" seq=75
define clientopt winclient_412 inclexcl "exclude *:\...\system32\config\*.*"
seq=85
define clientopt winclient_412 inclexcl "exclude
*:\...\system32\config\...\*" seq=86
define clientopt winclient_412 inclexcl "exclude
*:\Windows\spool\printers\*" seq=87
define clientopt winclient_412 inclexcl "exclude.dir *:\...\ntfrs\jet"
seq=90
define clientopt winclient_412 inclexcl "exclude.dir *:\...\ntds" seq=95
define clientopt winclient_412 inclexcl "exclude.dir '*:\System Volume
Information'" seq=100
define clientopt winclient_412 inclexcl "exclude.dir '*:\...\Temporary
Internet Files'" seq=105
define clientopt winclient_412 inclexcl "exclude *:\RECYCLE?\...\*" seq=110
define clientopt winclient_412 inclexcl "exclude *:\...\TEMP\...\*" seq=115
define clientopt winclient_412 inclexcl "exclude *:\...\tmp\...\*" seq=120
define clientopt winclient_412 inclexcl "exclude *:\...\*.tmp" seq=125
define clientopt winclient_412 inclexcl "exclude
*:\...\netscape*\...\cache\*" seq=130
define clientopt winclient_412 inclexcl "exclude
*:\...\netscape\users\...\news\...\*" seq=135
define clientopt winclient_412 inclexcl "exclude '*:\...\My Old Hard
Drive\...\*'" seq=140
define clientopt winclient_412 inclexcl "exclude *:\...\PointCast*\...\*"
seq=145
define clientopt winclient_412 inclexcl "exclude
*:\...\Tivoli\TSM\...\cache\...\*" seq=150
define clientopt winclient_412 inclexcl "exclude *:\WINNT\MS\SMS\LOGS\...\*"
seq=155
define clientopt winclient_412 inclexcl "exclude
*:\WINNT\MS\SMS\clicomp\...\complete\...\*" seq=157
define clientopt winclient_412 inclexcl "exclude '*:\...\Documents and
Settings\...\Recent\...\*'"  seq=160
define clientopt winclient_412 inclexcl "include *:\...\dsmsched.log
MGTC_CHANGING" seq=200
define clientopt winclient_412 inclexcl "include *:\...\dsmerror.log
MGTC_CHANGING" seq=202
define clientopt winclient_412 inclexcl "include *:\...\adsm.sys\...\*"
seq=220
define clientopt winclient_412 inclexcl "include '*:\...\Documents and
Settings\...\Application Data\Microsoft\Office\Recent\...\*'"  seq=230
#

-Original Message-
From: Lilly, David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 2:51 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Win2k Server Recovery using TSM 4.2.1.0


Thanks Matt!  IIS problem resolved.  I wonder if TSM is corrupting the file
during the "complete" System Object restore, step 11.

Also, can anyone recommend a good DSM.OPT template for Win2k?  I noticed in
the TSM 4.2.1.0 readme that System Objects will no longer be affected by
INCLUDE AND EXCLUDE statements, i.e., INCLUDE C:\ADSM.SYS\...\* is no longer
required.

Thanks again,

David

> -Original Message-
> From: Adams, Matt (US - Hermitage) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 2:04 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Win2k Server Recovery using TSM 4.2.1.0
>
> I have run into this before.  In most cases if you will restore
> metabase.bin
> back to c:\winnt\system32\inetsrv\  your IIS services should start back up
> after restoring and boot

Re: Point system has me very confused

[Jeff Rogers]

Well, I started the thread, so I thought I'd report on my progress since
the original post.  I've managed to come across a very capable IBM
Business Partner and Tivoli Sales rep.  It made all the difference in the
world.   My software and DB2 reps at IBM found the good Tivoli people, and
the Tivoli people sent me to the business partner.

It is a shame this was so hard because we run DB2 on AIX, which made
choosing TSM almost a no brainer.   We have had such good luck in dealing
with IBM in the past that this really blind sided me.

Now I can finally get moving on this project and go back to worrying about
backing up my data and keeping my servers running.

TSM Pricing Model Comments

[Seay, Paul]

I have to echo your comments about the business partners.  When I was at the
Storage Symposium in Las Vegas there were many Tivoli business partners
there.  They were some really bright people and were fully aware of the
pricing methodologies.

Our Tivoli Representative out of NC is has been very good at explaining the
pricing to us.  It was surprising to me that so many people were up in arms
about this issue.  It was really simple to me via a Passport Agreement that
we recently did.

I grant you that value based software pricing models are difficult to
understand for those that have not been involved, but being a mainframe
background person this was really simple compared to some of the pricing
models on the mainframe.

The day is coming for Bill to start charging for Windows by the hour of
usage and you will have to be .NET connected to even work.  To work offline
you will have to purchase usage ahead of schedule.  Your credit card number
will be on the logon screen.


-Original Message-
From: Jeff Rogers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 7:22 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Point system has me very confused


Well, I started the thread, so I thought I'd report on my progress since
the original post.  I've managed to come across a very capable IBM
Business Partner and Tivoli Sales rep.  It made all the difference in the
world.   My software and DB2 reps at IBM found the good Tivoli people, and
the Tivoli people sent me to the business partner.

It is a shame this was so hard because we run DB2 on AIX, which made
choosing TSM almost a no brainer.   We have had such good luck in dealing
with IBM in the past that this really blind sided me.

Now I can finally get moving on this project and go back to worrying about
backing up my data and keeping my servers running.

WINNT GUI showing directory

[Rupp Thomas (Illwerke)]

Hi TSM-ers,

is there any reason why the TSM GUI doesn't show the current directory it is

working with?
It's annoying not to know how far the backup process has come.
I can remember versions of the GUI that showed the directory.

Is there a future version that will show the directory name again?

Kind regards
Thomas Rupp
Vorarlberger Illwerke AG
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Re: Help! I need more space

[Alex Paschal]

I agree with David.  Overflow is pretty much the only option I see.  That,
or get rid of your copypools. Heh.

There's some good information in the Admin Guide.  In the 4.2 Admin Guide
(AIX), Chapter 7, "Managing Removable Media Operations," a section is
"Managing a Full Library."  It's on page 97 for me.  I hope that helps.

Alex

-Original Message-
From: David Longo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 6:56 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Help! I need more space


I have a similar but not as bad situation.  3575-L32 maxed out with about
60 tapes out of library and LTO coming in a month or so.  The "MOVE
 MEDIA"  command is used to move tapes out of library.  You have to have
your OPS folks on the ball as when one of those tapes is needed, there
is a message that pops up on console each minute until tape is checked
back in.

Reclamations and restores are mostly what needs tapes, so if you can plan
the  times of these that will help.  With your 200+ tapes out of library,
this will most likely be a LARGE extra operation for them (and YOU) to keep
up
with.  Removing collocation will conserve tapes but don't know how you
have in thisn state and how long it will take to change over.


David Longo

>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12/11/01 09:46AM >>>
Hi folks,

I have a situation where our company has two backups systems, TSM being one
of them. The 'other' backup system doesn't work for various reasons and we
are planning to move the servers that backup to it to TSM. On the weekend
that other system fell a part. Now I need to backup about 500GBs into a
Magstar L32 that really doesn't have that much space. I'm in a tight spot
and I need some creative ways to backup that much data. Here's what I've
been trying:

- turn collocation off, or from 'filespace' to 'on'
- reviewing old nodes and the largest filespaces, but this didn't save to
much
- I don't think I can reduce any copies or the length of time that the
copies are stored

Here's what I do have:
- I do have 8 x 36 GB disks that will be here soon
- a ton of tapes, no room in the Magstar, but I must have 200-300 extra
tapes
- I also have 24 x 18.2 GB disks right now that are used for my disk pools
and 4 x 9.1 GB disks that are used

So I was thinking I that I could:
1. use the 36 GB disks for a primary pool. Still sending the data offsite
(copy pool) because I have a lot of tapes, OR,
2. start taking tapes out of the Magstar and just setting them aside, when
they are full

I do have a LTO coming but not for 2-3 months.

I could really use a creative idea to store a lot of data. I have the tapes
just not the slots inside my Magstar.

Thanks Miles



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Re: Netware 5.1 server continually abends on incremental backup.

[Mark Stapleton]

On Thu, 6 Dec 2001 09:00:01 -0600, it was written:
>I have a Netware 5.1 server that will abend consistently about half way
>through an incremental backup.
>It worked fine until I recently upgraded some code on the box to resolve a
>non-related directory services problem.
>The dsmc error log reveals nothing and the Abend.log has been sent to
>Novell for analysis.
>The upgrades I put in place are as follows:
>
>Support Pack 3.
>Tcpip.nlm 5.43f
>winsock 6.00d
>ndsaudit.nlm 2.08
>filesys.nlm 5.10
>timesync 5.24L

A good beer says your TSA or SMDR modules updated as well. You need to
get the TSA5UP7 package from Novell, install it, and then see if your
problems come back.

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Re: Help! I need more space

[Daniel Sparrman]

HiHow's you're reclamation set up? The default value is 60, but if you take a look at your tapes, i'd guess you have about 10-20% reclaimable space on your tapes.The L32 has 320 MagStar tapes. Is it C-model XL version tapes? In this case every tape should hold about 15-20GB's each.If you could make all your tapes full, without any reclaimable space, you should be able to save 2-3GB's per tape.With 320 tapes, this should be a total of about 600-800GB of free space.Try setting your reclamation threshold to 5% over the weekend, and you would probably get some more tapes.The other thing to look at is how many versions of the DBBackup are you saving? Recommended is at least 2, but if you're using more than that, it could be a good idea, to look this over to see if you can save any tapes.How is your copypool tapes? To look at the reclamation threshold on these tapes could probably be a good idea.Best RegardsDaniel Sparrman---Daniel SparrmanExist i Stockholm ABBergkällavägen 31D192 79 SOLLENTUNAVäxel: 08 - 754 98 00Mobil: 070 - 399 27 51 David Longo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Sent by: "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>2001-12-11 09:55 ESTPlease respond to "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc:  bcc:  Subject: Re: Help! I need more space I have a similar but not as bad situation.  3575-L32 maxed out with about60 tapes out of library and LTO coming in a month or so.  The "MOVE MEDIA"  command is used to move tapes out of library.  You have to haveyour OPS folks on the ball as when one of those tapes is needed, thereis a message that pops up on console each minute until tape is checkedback in.Reclamations and restores are mostly what needs tapes, so if you can planthe  times of these that will help.  With your 200+ tapes out of library, this will most likely be a LARGE extra operation for them (and YOU) to keep upwith.  Removing collocation will conserve tapes but don't know how youhave in thisn state and how long it will take to change over.David Longo>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12/11/01 09:46AM >>>Hi folks,I have a situation where our company has two backups systems, TSM being one of them. The 'other' backup system doesn't work for various reasons and we are planning to move the servers that backup to it to TSM. On the weekend that other system fell a part. Now I need to backup about 500GBs into a Magstar L32 that really doesn't have that much space. I'm in a tight spot and I need some creative ways to backup that much data. Here's what I've been trying:- turn collocation off, or from 'filespace' to 'on'- reviewing old nodes and the largest filespaces, but this didn't save to much- I don't think I can reduce any copies or the length of time that the copies are storedHere's what I do have:- I do have 8 x 36 GB disks that will be here soon- a ton of tapes, no room in the Magstar, but I must have 200-300 extra tapes- I also have 24 x 18.2 GB disks right now that are used for my disk pools and 4 x 9.1 GB disks that are usedSo I was thinking I that I could:1. use the 36 GB disks for a primary pool. Still sending the data offsite (copy pool) because I have a lot of tapes, OR,2. start taking tapes out of the Magstar and just setting them aside, when they are fullI do have a LTO coming but not for 2-3 months.I could really use a creative idea to store a lot of data. I have the tapes just not the slots inside my Magstar.Thanks Miles--Miles PurdySystem ManagerFarm Income Programs DirectorateWinnipeg, MB, CA[EMAIL PROTECTED]ph: (204) 984-1602 fax: (204) 983-7557"If you hold a UNIX shell up to your ear, can you hear the C?"-"MMS " made the following annotations on 12/11/01 10:07:37--This message is for the named person's use only.  It may contain confidential, proprietary, or legally privileged information.  No confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost by any mistransmission.  If you receive this message in error, please immediately delete it and all copies of it from your system, destroy any hard copies of it, and notify the sender.  You must not, directly or indirectly, use, disclose, distribute, print, or copy any part of this message if you are not the intended recipient.  Health First reserves the right to monitor all e-mail communications through its networks.  Any views or opinions expressed in this message are solely those of the individual sender, except (1) where the message states such views or opinions are on behalf of a particular entity;  and (2) the sender is authorized by the entity to give such views or opinions.==

Re: act log question..

[Rosa Leung/Toronto/IBM]

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Hi,  you should have detail list on every client box,  if you backup by tsm
schedule, the result should be kept by dsmsched.log, If you run manualy,
then you should cast the result in a file, e.g. ( dsmc i > c:
\temp\sched.log).

Rosa Leung
Distributed Storage Services
Tel: (416) 490-5151  Fax: (416) 490-5283
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May I check backup files list from tsm db..
When I check out "q act log", I can make sure skipped files and backup
result..
But I need backup file list for each client...
Is there any way to do it?

Thanks in advance..

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