Re: Data Retention

[Reinhard Mersch]

Gerald Wichmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb:
> So there is no reason to ever set retain only to less then retain extra
> right?

hmm - perhaps to prevent this MC to apply to directory backups (when
DIRMC is not specified) ???

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HSM excludes

[Matthew Large]

Hi Y'all,

Can anyone who uses TSM's HSM facility, and also attempts to exclude one or
more directories in a space managed directory, please contact me off list.

Very many thanks to you all,
Matthew


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TDP for Oracle 2.2 for NT - orasbt.dll not found

[Werner Baur]

Hi,

has anybody succeedeed to get running TDPO 2.2 on Windows NT?

The connections to the TSM-Server (4.1), i.e. tdpoconf showenv works.
But Oracle uses the dummy API instead of the TSM agent (Warning: Oracle
Test Disk API) if I try to allocate a channel of type sbt_tape.
Obviously Oracle cannot find and link the DLL. This scenario is
described in the RMAN user's guide troubleshooting section. The guide
suspects a problem with the system path, but I cannot see any.
orasbt.dll is installed under the sytem directory c:\winnt\system32,
which is in the system path. Maybe I have missed something as I am
neither an experienced NT admin nor an Oracle guru.
Any hints are appreciated!

Werner


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Re: Persistent binding problem with W2K and SAN attached tape dri ves using Qlogic QLA-2200F

[Norback, Jan]

FYI: We had to go to Emulex LP8000 SAN adapters to solve the problem with
persistent binding. Emulex has a configuration utility that allows
persistent mapping of the WWN to a selected SCSI ID.  Beware of using Qlogic
until they have the same functionality.

>-It is currently not possible to use persistent binding with W2K and SAN
attached tape drives using the Qlogic QLA-2200F HBA

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Re: TSM Expire Inventory

[John Naylor]

So how many objects are being expired?
You do not say if there is a lot more expiration than normal happening.
If Oracle TDP is anything like Lotus Notes TDP you may have huge numbers to be
expired.
So it could be just the amount of work and the power of your machine.
Have you done query occupancy against the Oracle TDP filespaces





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Subject:  TSM Expire Inventory



I have a TSM Inatall running on Windows 2000 SP2, ADSM- Version 4, Release 1,
Level 3.0.

Normally the Expire invetory process taked 1 -1.5 hours max  the longest
time is on a Monday after archives are expiring.

Since the last weekend it is taking a really long time ..Like days...the Data
base is 12 GB in size.

The only thing I can think of that is different is last Friday some Oracle TDP
backups were expired.

Any Ideas ??

Thanks

Carl

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Re: BMC Agent for TSM

[Scott Thompson]

Sorry my e-mail wasn't very clear, i was after information about the BMC
Monitoring Tool for TSM, to help manage events and alerts and so forth.

-Original Message-
From: Kyle Payne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 12 November 2001 20:11
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: BMC Agent for TSM


What database are you backing up?  Currently the TDP agents work with the
LANFree option.  We tried getting the BMC for SQL agent working over LANFree
and found out that the current release of the product is not capable
LANFree.  We were told conflicting things from BMC on when it would be able
to use BMC with LANFree.  We ended up using the TDP For SQL and liked both
the backup and restore we got.  I know that prior to V2.2 BMC was more
feature rich but the V2.2 TDP seems to be quite nice.  Still, BMC did work
fine with the Network connection.  I am not a Marketing rep so I don't know
for sure but I think BMC is more expensive.

Kyle

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Scott Thompson
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Hi all,

Has anyone had any experience with the BMC agent for TSM. I am looking for
some feedback whether or not it is a good tool for TSM.

Cheers
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Re: Archives, Storage Pools, and DR

[Salak Juraj]

Hi,

basically, the only reason to use different storage pool at all 
are  d i f f e r e n t requirements for handling the data.
This can be different required degree of redundacy (one, two or three
copies of  each file), different storage locations, different
requirements for time to restore, and so on..

If this is true, than you must use separate pools. 
If this is not true, you can use single storage pool as well, even
single primary pool.

I tend to use separate pools, 
because it leaves me more freedom for the future 
at the costs of slightly worse tape usage and more daily tape mounts.

regards

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-Original Message-
From: Tim Melly [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 3:48 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Archives, Storage Pools, and DR


I currently have 2 primary storage pools, one for archives and one for
backups.
>From a DR standpoint, should I have both primary storage pools copy to a
single copy storage pool or should I split them into two copy storage
pools.

Any thoughts..

Regards, Tim
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TDS v2.1.1 installation

[Leijnse, Finn F SITI-ISES-31]

Hi,

I have just installed TDS v2.1.1 on a WinNT system as we want to test some
different reporting tools for our TSM servers and I want to know if I am
right to think that I need a discovery guide to get my reporting on the way?
Is a discovery guide like a template for the TSM database? From that point
on I can start filling cubes?

On the CD I have just installed I cannot find any discovery guides...

> met vriendelijke groeten, regards et salutations,
> Finn Leijnse
>
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> Shell Services International bv.
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Re: TDP for MSSQL

[Del Hoobler]

> Am I remembering this wrong and confusing it with other TDP's (oracle)?
> How does it expire old versions?

Gerald,

You are remembering this correctly.

All objects sent to the TSM backup storage pool by the
SQL Application Client are given a unique name so they
are never expired by the TSM server. The SQL Application Client
provides a delete function to remove unwanted backup objects
from the TSM server. However, the VERDeleted parameter of
the Backup Copy Group should be set to 0 (zero).
When the SQL Application Client marks a backup object
inactive, that object is deleted from the TSM server
the next time expiration processing occurs.
A backup object is marked inactive when you delete it
through the SQL Application Client interface.

The above text was taken from the version 1
TDP for SQL Installation and User's Guide.

A copy of the User's Guide should be in the
(base-dir)\MSSQL\HTM directory.  It is called "ab5msmst.htm".
If it is not there, you may have chosen not to
install it... and in this case you can get it from
your original CD.
It is covered in Chapter 3 under a section titled:
"TSM Policy Requirements and Recommendations".

Thanks,

Del



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LAN Free (SAN) Backup

[Wouter V]

Hello,

I will soon implement my first TSM Server on a SAN network.

The SAN is connected with a MA8000 storage server, 5 NT clients, and 1 Sun
Unix server
Each machine has local disk + san-attached storage and will use TDP for
oracle to make backups
(data on the MA8000).

I read that a backup/archive of regular files is also possible since TSM
4.2.

Now, is it correct that with LAN-Free backup :

- I can't use diskpools (on the SAN), with migration (next storage 
pool)
to the tapelibrary, over the SAN ?
- You always make a "direct connection" from the backup client to the
storage device which takes the backup
  (tape).  So data transfers twice through the SAN-switch ?  From the
MA8000 storage server to the client
  (storage agent) and then, from the client to the tape library ?
- The maximum number of concurrent clientbackups is limited to the 
number
of drives in the library('s) ?
  Because we can't use a SAN diskpool as destination the number of 
mount
points is limited to the number of
  drives ? (disk has unlimited number of mountpoints)
- If I want to do Serverless backup / use SAN diskpools I need Sanergy 
?

Can you give me any advices concerning LAN-Free / Serverless backup ?

Thank you for your help.

Wouter V.
Unix System Engineer.

Re: TDP for oracle and data growth.

[Matthew Large]

Hi Finn,

TDP for ORACLE for UNIX (and probably windows) states that all the files
generated have unique names. further down (pg 35/36) it states VERED and
RETO must be set to zero, and that the frequency, verexists, retextra, mode
and serialisation parameters are completely ignored.

You must remove them manually using the RMAN script. And ensure the node
setting for backdelete=yes on the server. look in the manual for more
detailed instructions.

hope this helps!

Matthew

-Original Message-
From: Leijnse, Finn F SITI-ISES-31 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 13 November 2001 12:32
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: TDP for oracle and data growth.


Hi TSM specialists,

We have encountered a problem with a server that uses TDP for oracle.
One of our server now has a total of about 9 TB of data on our tape pool !!!
What we found out is that this is caused by the fact that everytime TDP
sents data to our TSM server it gives the "file" a new name so all versions
are still active and growing !! growing !! growing !!
Which is OK for the bill we send to the customer but not really a desirable
situation.

Any idea's on how to delete the data or how to prevent this from happening?

set up of mgt_class:

Vexits 28
Vdeleted 0
Rextra NOLIMIT
Ronly 0

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LAN Free (SAN) Backup

[Linda Seeba]

I just implemented LanFree backups across a SAN for Solaris. I have one
Solaris client , a Solaris TSM server, and an IBM 3583 LTO tape library all
connected to a SAN. We are not using a TDP yet but are backing up all files
LanFree directly to tape.

You cannot have a disk storage pool defined at all in the domain you are
using for LanFree backups.

The backup will go directly to tape unless there is a problem with the SAN
then it will go to the TSM server across the LAN.

Your mount points cannot exceed your defined tape drives.

The documentation states to use disk storage you can use SanEnergy but we
haven't looked at this.

The only problem we have had is storage agent sessions that start every
couple of hours and hang up on the TSM server. So far it seems they do not
time out. We have been cancelling them and are working with TSM support to
fix this problem.

Linda Seeba   Phone: (314) 234-5190
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Wouter V <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>@VM.MARIST.EDU> on 11/14/2001 06:44:01 AM

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cc:
Subject:  LAN Free (SAN) Backup



Hello,

I will soon implement my first TSM Server on a SAN network.

The SAN is connected with a MA8000 storage server, 5 NT clients, and 1 Sun
Unix server
Each machine has local disk + san-attached storage and will use TDP for
oracle to make backups
(data on the MA8000).

I read that a backup/archive of regular files is also possible since TSM
4.2.

Now, is it correct that with LAN-Free backup :

- I can't use diskpools (on the SAN), with migration (next
storage pool)
to the tapelibrary, over the SAN ?
- You always make a "direct connection" from the backup
client to the
storage device which takes the backup
  (tape).  So data transfers twice through the SAN-switch ?
>From the
MA8000 storage server to the client
  (storage agent) and then, from the client to the tape
library ?
- The maximum number of concurrent clientbackups is limited
to the number
of drives in the library('s) ?
  Because we can't use a SAN diskpool as destination the
number of mount
points is limited to the number of
  drives ? (disk has unlimited number of mountpoints)
- If I want to do Serverless backup / use SAN diskpools I
need Sanergy ?

Can you give me any advices concerning LAN-Free / Serverless backup ?

Thank you for your help.

Wouter V.
Unix System Engineer.

Re: AIX and LTO 3583

[Daniel Sparrman]

Hi Katherine

As it sounds, you have the optional 12 slot I/O station. Is this correct?

In that case, you should do the checkin with the parameter "search=bulk".

If not, TSM will assume that you don't have the I/O station, which means
that you only have a 1-slot I/O station.

And, if the tapes hasn't been expired in the library, you first have to
check in the tapes with status=private. This is because Tivoli has to
expire the tapes when they are in the library. TSM also sets the status to
scratch automatically when it expires the tapes.

But, the tapes has to be in the library for TSM to expire them and make
them scratch volumes.

If you do a q vol  you should see your expired copypool volumes as status
empty. This is because TSM hasn't had the chance to make them scratch
volumes.

Best Regards

Daniel Sparrman
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Katherine  

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Help!  I am feeling quite dumb here, have searched the archives and read
the manuals all to no avail.  It's probably just me ...

I have an IBM LTO 3583 library.  I have successfully inserted tapes and
begun backing up with TSM.  All
was going well.   Recently I decided that it was time to use the library as
it was intended.  Using DRM I
decided I should remove COPY tapes and DB Backup Tapes etc.  and keep them
in my "vault".   That was
easy.  Now however I would like to put back in some of the tapes that have
expired.  Here is where I am
having trouble.

We have one column in the library to hold tapes and one I/O port.  I can
add new scratch tapes with label
libvolume ... checkin=scratch ..but I can not seem to get those old
used and expired tapes back in.

I have tried the   checking libvolume x scratch=yes.  I am prompted
(through the actlog) to insert the tape in slot 16.  Here is my problem.
Which slot is 16?  I have tried a couple of different ones and get

 ANR8306I 007: Insert LTO volume 111ACH R/W into the slot
  with element number 16 of library LTOLIB within
58
  minutes; issue 'REPLY' along with the request ID
when
  ready. 
11/13/2001 13:49:19  ANR2017I Administrator OPERATIONS issued command:
REPLY 7
11/13/2001 13:49:19  ANR8499I Command accepted.

11/13/2001 13:52:12  ANR8300E I/O error on library LTOLIB (OP=6C03,
CC=314,
  KEY=05, ASC=3B, ASCQ=0E,

SENSE=70.00.05.00.00.00.00.0A.00.00.00.00.3B.0E.E2.00.00-
  .00., Description=The source slot or drive was
empty in
  an attempt to move a volume).  Refer to Appendix
B in the
  'Messages' manual for rec

Re: TDS v2.1.1 installation

[David McClelland]

Hi Finn,

If you've installed from the flat TDS CD's you won't find the TDS for SMA
(Storage Management Analysis) bits (i.e. guides) on there - you'll need a
separate CD, which will have the Decision Support Loader (a special
application which pulls data from the TSM servers' databases and populates
an RDBMS) and sql schema's to build the tables into the database.

I did install this and had it working last year (memory's a bit sketchy
now, but I recall it was a bit of a faff), getting all kinds of stats from
our TSM servers, but I think that the packaging has now changed. In our
latest CD bundle from Tivoli we got a 'Tivoli Storage Resource Reporting'
CD which I believe may contain what you are looking for... It may be worth
looking at service.boulder.ibm.com ftp site too as I remember there to be
some folders on there which may have what you're looking for... There's
also some Redbooks - Tivoli Storage Manager Reporting - SG24-6109-00, and
lots of installation documentation on the CD.

Hope this helps,

Rgds,

David McClelland
---
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IBM EMEA Technical Centre,
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"Leijnse, Finn F SITI-ISES-31" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>@VM.MARIST.EDU>
on 14/11/2001 12:00:40

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Sent by:  "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


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cc:
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Hi,

I have just installed TDS v2.1.1 on a WinNT system as we want to test some
different reporting tools for our TSM servers and I want to know if I am
right to think that I need a discovery guide to get my reporting on the
way?
Is a discovery guide like a template for the TSM database? From that point
on I can start filling cubes?

On the CD I have just installed I cannot find any discovery guides...

> met vriendelijke groeten, regards et salutations,
> Finn Leijnse
>
> ISES/31 - Central Data Storage Management
> Shell Services International bv.
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Re: LAN Free (SAN) Backup

[Daniel Sparrman]

Hi Linda

To backup your data to a SAN-attached disk device is possible.

All you have to do is to create a shared FILE-device, and then instead of
backing up to tape, backup to the FILE device.

According to Tivoli, this is a supported configuration, and the information
can be found on the Tivoli website.

Best Regards

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I just implemented LanFree backups across a SAN for Solaris. I have one
Solaris client , a Solaris TSM server, and an IBM 3583 LTO tape library all
connected to a SAN. We are not using a TDP yet but are backing up all files
LanFree directly to tape.

You cannot have a disk storage pool defined at all in the domain you are
using for LanFree backups.

The backup will go directly to tape unless there is a problem with the SAN
then it will go to the TSM server across the LAN.

Your mount points cannot exceed your defined tape drives.

The documentation states to use disk storage you can use SanEnergy but we
haven't looked at this.

The only problem we have had is storage agent sessions that start every
couple of hours and hang up on the TSM server. So far it seems they do not
time out. We have been cancelling them and are working with TSM support to
fix this problem.

Linda Seeba   Phone: (314) 234-5190
I/T Specialist - Sr  Fax: (314) 232-4581
IBM Global Services   E-Mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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07:12 AM ---

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Hello,

I will soon implement my first TSM Server on a SAN network.

The SAN is connected with a MA8000 storage server, 5 NT clients, and 1 Sun
Unix server
Each machine has local disk + san-attached storage and will use TDP for
oracle to make backups
(data on the MA8000).

I read that a backup/archive of regular files is also possible since TSM
4.2.

Now, is it correct that with LAN-Free backup :

- I can't use diskpools (on the SAN), with migration (next
storage pool)
to the tapelibrary, over the SAN ?
- You always make a "direct connection" from the backup
client to the
storage device which takes the backup
  (tape).  So data transfers twice through the SAN-switch ?
>From the
MA8000 storage server to the client
  (storage agent) and then, from the client to the

Re: LAN Free (SAN) Backup

[Daniel Sparrman]

Not with version 4.2.

Best Regards

Daniel Sparrman
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192 79 SOLLENTUNA
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Isn't this where you have to use SanEnergy?

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Hi Linda

To backup your data to a SAN-attached disk device is possible.

All you have to do is to create a shared FILE-device, and then instead of
backing up to tape, backup to the FILE device.

According to Tivoli, this is a supported configuration, and the information
can be found on the Tivoli website.

Best Regards

Daniel Sparrman
---
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Exist i Stockholm AB
Bergkällavägen 31D
192 79 SOLLENTUNA
Växel: 08 - 754 98 00
Mobil: 070 - 399 27 51



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I just implemented LanFree backups across a SAN for Solaris. I have one
Solaris client , a Solaris TSM server, and an IBM 3583 LTO tape library all
connected to a SAN. We are not using a TDP yet but are backing up all files
LanFree directly to tape.

You cannot have a disk storage pool defined at all in the domain you are
using for LanFree backups.

The backup will go directly to tape unless there is a problem with the SAN
then it will go to the TSM server across the LAN.

Your mount points cannot exceed your defined tape drives.

The documentation states to use disk storage you can use SanEnergy but we
haven't looked at this.

The only problem we have had is storage agent sessions that start every
couple of hours and hang up on the TSM server. So far it seems they do not
time out. We have been cancelling them and are working with TSM support to
fix this problem.

Linda Seeba   

Re: LAN Free (SAN) Backup

[Daniel Sparrman]

According to Tivoli, SANergy is not necessary using TSM 4.2.X.

http://www.tivoli.com/products/documents/updates/storage_mgr_42_enhancements.html

Best Regards

Daniel Sparrman
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192 79 SOLLENTUNA
Växel: 08 - 754 98 00
Mobil: 070 - 399 27 51

Re: TDP for Oracle 2.2 for NT - orasbt.dll not found

[Bill Mansfield]

We had the same symptom, turned out TDP could not find dsm.opt file (bad
DSMI_ORC_CONFIG value in tdpo.opt).



_
William Mansfield
Senior Consultant
Solution Technology, Inc




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Hi,

has anybody succeedeed to get running TDPO 2.2 on Windows NT?

The connections to the TSM-Server (4.1), i.e. tdpoconf showenv works.
But Oracle uses the dummy API instead of the TSM agent (Warning: Oracle
Test Disk API) if I try to allocate a channel of type sbt_tape.
Obviously Oracle cannot find and link the DLL. This scenario is
described in the RMAN user's guide troubleshooting section. The guide
suspects a problem with the system path, but I cannot see any.
orasbt.dll is installed under the sytem directory c:\winnt\system32,
which is in the system path. Maybe I have missed something as I am
neither an experienced NT admin nor an Oracle guru.
Any hints are appreciated!

Werner


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Re: Archives, Storage Pools, and DR

[Kauffman, Tom]

Tim --

This should be driven by your D/R requirements.

We have two MS-Exchange servers and a fax server that need to come up fast,
as well as a 600 GB SAP/Oracle instance on R/S 6000. We do *not* do bare
metal restores. As a result, I have:

1) A copy pool for SAP database backups (two tapes per backup)
2) A co-located copy pool for MS-Exchange
3) Two copy pools for SAP/Oracle redo logs (If one tape is unreadable, we've
got the other)
4) A copy pool for AIX/NT incrementals (backups, in other words)
5) A copy pool for long-term SAP Archives from commonstore (to keep them out
of the way)

On a 'normal' D/R (tests, so far), we get mksysb restores running on all the
R/S 6000 systems (six) and start installing NT from CD on the three NT
servers. About the time the TSM server has been recovered the NT systems are
ready to start restoring. About 45 minutes later, we're ready to start
recovering the non-database SAP files from one of the redo log tapes (I
archive this every week); three filesystems use the archive as a base for
point-in-time restores from the incremental tape.

As soon as we have the code down, we start the SAP database restore. While
it's running, we recover all the off-line redo logs to roll forward.
Somewhere in here we recover two oracle databases used by our in-house
labor/payroll and edi processing -- these archive nightly and end up on the
redo log tapes as well.

Our published requirements are to recover to a state that existed not more
than 12 hours before an outage, and to do it within 48 hours of the
occurrance of the outage. And we're trying to cut that 12-hour window down
to 3 hours.

So - determine what you need to recover, how it is to be recovered, and how
long you have to do it. From there you can work out the copy pool (and
original storage pool) requirements and the D/R site hardware requirements.
Don't forget that you also need to get the TSM database off-site, as well as
the device config and volume history files (I put these on floppy and strap
it to the TSM database backup tape).

Tom Kauffman
NIBCO, Inc

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> Subject: Archives, Storage Pools, and DR
>
>
> I currently have 2 primary storage pools, one for archives and one for
> backups.
> From a DR standpoint, should I have both primary storage
> pools copy to a
> single copy storage pool or should I split them into two copy storage
> pools.
>
> Any thoughts..
>
> Regards, Tim
> NAFTA IS Technical Operations
> (203) 812-3469
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Re: AIX and LTO 3583

[Bill Wheeler]

Katherine,

Your slot 16 should be the slot where the tapes are taken out.  You
should have an empty slot where the tapes come in and out.  That would be
stated as slot 16.  Once you run the checkin command insert the tape there
and then reply to the question.

Also, are you looking for a way to view the messages from the command line
through AIX?

Bill Wheeler
PDM Administrator
La-Z-Boy Incorporated
(734) 242-1444 x6170
 


-Original Message-
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Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 8:50 AM
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Subject: AIX and LTO 3583


Help!  I am feeling quite dumb here, have searched the archives and read
the manuals all to no avail.  It's probably just me ...

I have an IBM LTO 3583 library.  I have successfully inserted tapes and
begun backing up with TSM.  All
was going well.   Recently I decided that it was time to use the library as
it was intended.  Using DRM I
decided I should remove COPY tapes and DB Backup Tapes etc.  and keep them
in my "vault".   That was
easy.  Now however I would like to put back in some of the tapes that have
expired.  Here is where I am
having trouble.

We have one column in the library to hold tapes and one I/O port.  I can
add new scratch tapes with label
libvolume ... checkin=scratch ..but I can not seem to get those old
used and expired tapes back in.

I have tried the   checking libvolume x scratch=yes.  I am prompted
(through the actlog) to insert the tape in slot 16.  Here is my problem.
Which slot is 16?  I have tried a couple of different ones and get

 ANR8306I 007: Insert LTO volume 111ACH R/W into the slot
  with element number 16 of library LTOLIB within 58
  minutes; issue 'REPLY' along with the request ID
when
  ready. 
11/13/2001 13:49:19  ANR2017I Administrator OPERATIONS issued command:
REPLY 7
11/13/2001 13:49:19  ANR8499I Command accepted.

11/13/2001 13:52:12  ANR8300E I/O error on library LTOLIB (OP=6C03,
CC=314,
  KEY=05, ASC=3B, ASCQ=0E,

SENSE=70.00.05.00.00.00.00.0A.00.00.00.00.3B.0E.E2.00.00-
  .00., Description=The source slot or drive was
empty in
  an attempt to move a volume).  Refer to Appendix
B in the
  'Messages' manual for recommended action.
11/13/2001 13:52:12  ANRD mmsscsi.c(10846): Could not move volume
111ACH
  from slot 16 to slot 256.
11/13/2001 13:52:12  ANR8841I Remove volume from slot 16 of library
LTOLIB at
  your convenience.
11/13/2001 13:52:13  ANR8426E CHECKIN LIBVOLUME for volume 111ACH in
library
  LTOLIB failed.
11/13/2001 13:52:13  ANR0985I Process 1515 for CHECKIN LIBVOLUME
running in the
  BACKGROUND completed with completion state
FAILURE at
  13:52:13.

I do not know how to tell what slot is 16.   Help!  Pretty soon I will run
out of new tapes to add and I can't get the old ones back in.  I feel
foolish.  It seems like this should be easy.  Help!   And will we're at it,
how can I log on an admin client (in line mode) with mount messages being
sent to this session.

Thanks in advance for any and all help, including RTFM -  just tell me what
page number!

Re: Restoring to different node using administrative TSM-ID

[Andrew Raibeck]

I'm not certain that I fully understand what is being requested, but is it
possible that specifying the -passwordaccess=prompt option from the
command line would do the trick? This forces the prompting of a user ID
and password from both CLI and GUI.

   dsm -passwordaccess=prompt

or

   dsmc -paswordaccess=prompt

Regards,

Andy

Andy Raibeck
IBM Software Group
Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development
Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/IBM@IBMUS
Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked.
The command line is your friend.
"Good enough" is the enemy of excellence.




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I looked at this for 2 hours the other night and could not find a way to
do
it through the GUI.  So, it will be interesting what the answer is.

-Original Message-
From: Jens Fornfeist [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 7:40 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Restoring to different node using administrative TSM-ID


Hi,

i need to restore files to a different tsm-node ,than the data has
been backed up with.
Using the gui, there is the option "logon", where I can specify
the concerned "source-tsm-node" and my administrative TSM-ID,
for authenticating with/to the tsm-server. I have to use my ID because
of the "passwordaccess generate"-setting in the client-options-file, so
I do not know the passwords of the client-nodes. Using this way,
everything works fine.
The question is: How can I initiate this login-process using
the command-line I would like to simplify this process
for backup-operators, so that it is only necessary to enter
the administrative TSM-ID and password. The node-name
should have been set using a dsm.exe - paramater.
i.e.: dsm -loginid=userid -virtualnodename=sourcemachine

Is there an "undocumented feature" that solves my problem?
(or is it documented and I haven't found it?)

Thanks in advance!
Jens Fornfeist



IDG mbH, Cologne, Germany
Abt. CS3
phone: +49 221/308-2529

Re: LAN Free (SAN) Backup

[Wouter V]

But then you need Sanergy I believe + you can only backup with one client at
a time to the shared file space .
So client 1 mounts the San-diskspace, makes it backup, unmounts
Client 2 mounts the san-diskspace (fused), makes it backup, unmount and so
on...

Tell me if I'm wrong.

Regards,

Wouter.


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Hi Linda

To backup your data to a SAN-attached disk device is possible.

All you have to do is to create a shared FILE-device, and then instead of
backing up to tape, backup to the FILE device.

According to Tivoli, this is a supported configuration, and the information
can be found on the Tivoli website.

Best Regards

Re: LAN Free (SAN) Backup

[Linda Seeba]

Isn't this where you have to use SanEnergy?

Linda Seeba   Phone: (314) 234-5190
I/T Specialist - Sr  Fax: (314) 232-4581
IBM Global Services   E-Mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

-- Forwarded by Linda Seeba/St Louis/IBM on 11/14/2001
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Hi Linda

To backup your data to a SAN-attached disk device is possible.

All you have to do is to create a shared FILE-device, and then instead of
backing up to tape, backup to the FILE device.

According to Tivoli, this is a supported configuration, and the information
can be found on the Tivoli website.

Best Regards

Daniel Sparrman
---
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Exist i Stockholm AB
Bergkällavägen 31D
192 79 SOLLENTUNA
Växel: 08 - 754 98 00
Mobil: 070 - 399 27 51



Linda Seeba
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I just implemented LanFree backups across a SAN for Solaris. I have one
Solaris client , a Solaris TSM server, and an IBM 3583 LTO tape library all
connected to a SAN. We are not using a TDP yet but are backing up all files
LanFree directly to tape.

You cannot have a disk storage pool defined at all in the domain you are
using for LanFree backups.

The backup will go directly to tape unless there is a problem with the SAN
then it will go to the TSM server across the LAN.

Your mount points cannot exceed your defined tape drives.

The documentation states to use disk storage you can use SanEnergy but we
haven't looked at this.

The only problem we have had is storage agent sessions that start every
couple of hours and hang up on the TSM server. So far it seems they do not
time out. We have been cancelling them and are working with TSM support to
fix this problem.

Linda Seeba   Phone: (314) 234-5190
I/T Specialist - Sr  Fax: (314) 232-4581
IBM Global Services   E-Mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Wouter V <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>@VM.MARIST.EDU> on 11/14/2001 06:44:01 AM

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Hello,

I will soon implement my first TSM Server on a SAN network.

The SAN is connected with a MA8000 storage server, 5 NT clients, and 1 Sun
Unix server
Each machine has local disk + san-attached storage and will use TDP for
oracle to make backups
(data on the MA8000).

I read that a backup/archive of regular files is also possible since TSM
4.2.

Now, is it correct that with LAN-Free backup :

- I can't use diskpools (on the SAN), with migration (next
storage pool)
to the tapelibrary, over the SAN ?
- You always make a "direct connection" from the backup
client to the
storage device which takes the backup
  (tape).  So data transfers twice through the SAN-switch ?
>From the
MA8000 storage server to the client
  (storage agent) and then, from the client to the
tapelibrary ?
- The maximum number of concurrent clientbackups is limited
to the number
of drives in the library('s) ?
  Because we can't use a SAN diskpool as destination the
number of mount
points is limited to the number of
  drives ? (disk has unlimited number of mountpoints)
- If I want to do Serverless backup / use SAN diskpools I
need Sanergy ?

Can you give me any advices concerning LAN-Free / Serverless backup ?

Thank you for your help.

Wouter V.
Unix System Engineer.

NT Terminal Server Client

[Tomáš Hrouda]

Hi all,

I have trouble to install TSM client 4.2 on NT 4.0 (Terminal Server
Edition), SP6 . During instalation process, exactly on its start (before
copying files) following error message appears and installation crash:

1603: General Windows Installer engine error.
Increase Disk space requirement in Setup.ini and try again.

There is about 30GB free space on the target disk (C:). Any idea?

Many thanks

Toma9 Hrouda
Storage Specialist
HTD s.r.o. Praha
tel. +420 (2) 6791 3157
fax. +420 (2) 6791 3162
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: LAN Free (SAN) Backup

[Daniel Sparrman]

See my later answers... :)

Best Regards

Daniel Sparrman
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Mobil: 070 - 399 27 51


   

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Linda Seeba   Phone: (314) 234-5190
I/T Specialist - Sr  Fax: (314) 232-4581
IBM Global Services   E-Mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Hi Linda

To backup your data to a SAN-attached disk device is possible.

All you have to do is to create a shared FILE-device, and then instead of
backing up to tape, backup to the FILE device.

According to Tivoli, this is a supported configuration, and the information
can be found on the Tivoli website.

Best Regards

Daniel Sparrman
---
Daniel Sparrman
Exist i Stockholm AB
Bergkällavägen 31D
192 79 SOLLENTUNA
Växel: 08 - 754 98 00
Mobil: 070 - 399 27 51



Linda Seeba
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I just implemented LanFree backups across a SAN for Solaris. I have one
Solaris client , a Solaris TSM server, and an IBM 3583 LTO tape library all
connected to a SAN. We are not using a TDP yet but are backing up all files
LanFree directly to tape.

You cannot have a disk storage pool defined at all in the domain you are
using for LanFree backups.

The backup will go directly to tape unless there is a problem with the SAN
then it will go to the TSM server across the LAN.

Your mount points cannot exceed your defined tape drives.

The documentation states to use disk storage you can use SanEnergy but we
haven't looked at this.

The only problem we have had is storage agent sessions that start every
couple of hours and hang up on the TSM server. So far it seems they do not
time out. We have been cancelling them and are working with TSM support to
fix this problem.

Linda Seeba  

Re: NT Terminal Server Client

[Karel Bos]

If I remember it correctly the answer to this question is in the readme file
which comes with the client. You have to edit te setup.ini and change a
parameter.



-Oorspronkelijk bericht-
Van: Tomáš Hrouda [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Verzonden: donderdag 15 november 2001 15:40
Aan: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Onderwerp: NT Terminal Server Client


Hi all,

I have trouble to install TSM client 4.2 on NT 4.0 (Terminal Server
Edition), SP6 . During instalation process, exactly on its start (before
copying files) following error message appears and installation crash:

1603: General Windows Installer engine error.
Increase Disk space requirement in Setup.ini and try again.

There is about 30GB free space on the target disk (C:). Any idea?

Many thanks

Toma9 Hrouda
Storage Specialist
HTD s.r.o. Praha
tel. +420 (2) 6791 3157
fax. +420 (2) 6791 3162
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Restoring to different node using administrative TSM-ID

[Yanki Yuksel]

Couple options include the following:

1.  You can actually map a network drive on the original node to the new
node you want to restore to.  Then during the restore, you can pick a
location and select the mapped drive.

2.  You can go to the new node you want to restore to, and in the dsm.opt
file you can change the node name to that of the old one, this way, when
the GUI starts up, it will think that it is the original node.  Mind you,
you will still need to pick a different location to restore to unless you
have the drives partitioned off exactly the same.

Hope this helps,

Yanki

_
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Sr. Systems/Network Administrator
Alcatel Canada
1235 Ormont Drive
Weston, Ontario, Canada
M9L 2W6
Tel:  (416) 742-3900 ext 5767
Fax: (416) 742-9088
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I looked at this for 2 hours the other night and could not find a way to do
it through the GUI.  So, it will be interesting what the answer is.

-Original Message-
From: Jens Fornfeist [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 7:40 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Restoring to different node using administrative TSM-ID


Hi,

i need to restore files to a different tsm-node ,than the data has
been backed up with.
Using the gui, there is the option "logon", where I can specify
the concerned "source-tsm-node" and my administrative TSM-ID,
for authenticating with/to the tsm-server. I have to use my ID because
of the "passwordaccess generate"-setting in the client-options-file, so
I do not know the passwords of the client-nodes. Using this way,
everything works fine.
The question is: How can I initiate this login-process using
the command-line I would like to simplify this process
for backup-operators, so that it is only necessary to enter
the administrative TSM-ID and password. The node-name
should have been set using a dsm.exe - paramater.
i.e.: dsm -loginid=userid -virtualnodename=sourcemachine

Is there an "undocumented feature" that solves my problem?
(or is it documented and I haven't found it?)

Thanks in advance!
Jens Fornfeist




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Abt. CS3
phone: +49 221/308-2529

Re: LAN Free (SAN) Backup

[Bill Mansfield]

This requires SANergy, I think, to manage the sharing of the disk pool
between the client and the TSM server.



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Hi Linda

To backup your data to a SAN-attached disk device is possible.

All you have to do is to create a shared FILE-device, and then instead of
backing up to tape, backup to the FILE device.

According to Tivoli, this is a supported configuration, and the information
can be found on the Tivoli website.

Best Regards

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I just implemented LanFree backups across a SAN for Solaris. I have one
Solaris client , a Solaris TSM server, and an IBM 3583 LTO tape library all
connected to a SAN. We are not using a TDP yet but are backing up all files
LanFree directly to tape.

You cannot have a disk storage pool defined at all in the domain you are
using for LanFree backups.

The backup will go directly to tape unless there is a problem with the SAN
then it will go to the TSM server across the LAN.

Your mount points cannot exceed your defined tape drives.

The documentation states to use disk storage you can use SanEnergy but we
haven't looked at this.

The only problem we have had is storage agent sessions that start every
couple of hours and hang up on the TSM server. So far it seems they do not
time out. We have been cancelling them and are working with TSM support to
fix this problem.

Linda Seeba   Phone: (314) 234-5190
I/T Specialist - Sr  Fax: (314) 232-4581
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Hello,

I will soon implement my first TSM Server on a SAN network.

The SAN is connected with a MA8000 storage server, 5 NT clients, and 1 Sun
Unix server
Each machine has local disk + san-attached storage and will use TDP for
oracle to make backups
(data on the MA

AIX and LTO 3583

[Katherine Faella]

Help!  I am feeling quite dumb here, have searched the archives and read
the manuals all to no avail.  It's probably just me ...

I have an IBM LTO 3583 library.  I have successfully inserted tapes and
begun backing up with TSM.  All
was going well.   Recently I decided that it was time to use the library as
it was intended.  Using DRM I
decided I should remove COPY tapes and DB Backup Tapes etc.  and keep them
in my "vault".   That was
easy.  Now however I would like to put back in some of the tapes that have
expired.  Here is where I am
having trouble.

We have one column in the library to hold tapes and one I/O port.  I can
add new scratch tapes with label
libvolume ... checkin=scratch ..but I can not seem to get those old
used and expired tapes back in.

I have tried the   checking libvolume x scratch=yes.  I am prompted
(through the actlog) to insert the tape in slot 16.  Here is my problem.
Which slot is 16?  I have tried a couple of different ones and get

 ANR8306I 007: Insert LTO volume 111ACH R/W into the slot
  with element number 16 of library LTOLIB within 58
  minutes; issue 'REPLY' along with the request ID
when
  ready. 
11/13/2001 13:49:19  ANR2017I Administrator OPERATIONS issued command:
REPLY 7
11/13/2001 13:49:19  ANR8499I Command accepted.

11/13/2001 13:52:12  ANR8300E I/O error on library LTOLIB (OP=6C03,
CC=314,
  KEY=05, ASC=3B, ASCQ=0E,

SENSE=70.00.05.00.00.00.00.0A.00.00.00.00.3B.0E.E2.00.00-
  .00., Description=The source slot or drive was
empty in
  an attempt to move a volume).  Refer to Appendix
B in the
  'Messages' manual for recommended action.
11/13/2001 13:52:12  ANRD mmsscsi.c(10846): Could not move volume
111ACH
  from slot 16 to slot 256.
11/13/2001 13:52:12  ANR8841I Remove volume from slot 16 of library
LTOLIB at
  your convenience.
11/13/2001 13:52:13  ANR8426E CHECKIN LIBVOLUME for volume 111ACH in
library
  LTOLIB failed.
11/13/2001 13:52:13  ANR0985I Process 1515 for CHECKIN LIBVOLUME
running in the
  BACKGROUND completed with completion state
FAILURE at
  13:52:13.

I do not know how to tell what slot is 16.   Help!  Pretty soon I will run
out of new tapes to add and I can't get the old ones back in.  I feel
foolish.  It seems like this should be easy.  Help!   And will we're at it,
how can I log on an admin client (in line mode) with mount messages being
sent to this session.

Thanks in advance for any and all help, including RTFM -  just tell me what
page number!

Re: backup disk pool vs backup tape pool

[Steve Roder]

> Recently, the 5 minutes has grown to an hour or more!
> What would cause this?  Why would data go directly to the backup tape pool,
> and not the backup disk pool?

Two things that come to mind is the disk pool filling, and files that
exceed the maxsize setting on the disk storage pool (q stg poolname f=d).

A third would be binding file to a Management class that backs up directly
to tape, bypassing the disk pool.

Steve Roder, University at Buffalo
HOD Service Coordinator
VM Systems Programmer
UNIX Systems Administrator (Solaris and AIX)
TSM/ADSM Administrator
([EMAIL PROTECTED] | (716)645-3564 | http://ubvm.cc.buffalo.edu/~tkssteve)

Re: LAN Free (SAN) Backup

[Daniel Sparrman]

Hi

Doesn't that depend of the setting of "Mount limit" that you set on you
shared FILE deviceclass?

There shouldn't be a problem having multiple clients mount multiple mount
points, as long as you have the mount limit to a number higher than
the number of clients.

I am well aware of that in 3.7.X and 4.1.X, you needed SANergy to use a
diskpool. But this should have been solved in 4.2, where Tivoli integrated
parts of SANergy into TSM.

This is how I have been explained to by Tivoli's support.

Best Regards

Daniel Sparrman
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But then you need Sanergy I believe + you can only backup with one client
at
a time to the shared file space .
So client 1 mounts the San-diskspace, makes it backup, unmounts
Client 2 mounts the san-diskspace (fused), makes it backup, unmount and so
on...

Tell me if I'm wrong.

Regards,

Wouter.


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Hi Linda

To backup your data to a SAN-attached disk device is possible.

All you have to do is to create a shared FILE-device, and then instead of
backing up to tape, backup to the FILE device.

According to Tivoli, this is a supported configuration, and the information
can be found on the Tivoli website.

Best Regards

Re: LAN Free (SAN) Backup

[Wouter V]

Hmmm, this seems to be an open question for many of us.

What I don't understand is how TSM can manage to make a SAN-attached disk
device available (for storage pool backup) at the same time for multiple
clients ?  When a disk is assigned to one host, how is it possible to assign
it also to another host ? "Switching the storage between hosts seems
feasible", but concurrent ?


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This requires SANergy, I think, to manage the sharing of the disk pool
between the client and the TSM server.



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Hi Linda

To backup your data to a SAN-attached disk device is possible.

All you have to do is to create a shared FILE-device, and then instead of
backing up to tape, backup to the FILE device.

According to Tivoli, this is a supported configuration, and the information
can be found on the Tivoli website.

Best Regards

Daniel Sparrman
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I just implemented LanFree backups across a SAN for Solaris. I have one
Solaris client , a Solaris TSM server, and an IBM 3583 LTO tape library all
connected to a SAN. We are not using a TDP yet but are backing up all files
LanFree directly to tape.

You cannot have a disk storage pool defined at all in the domain you are
using for LanFree backups.

The backup will go directly to tape unless there is a problem with the SAN
then it will go to the TSM server across the LAN.

Your mount points cannot exceed your defined tape drives.

The documentation states to use disk storage you can use SanEnergy but we
haven't looked at this.

The only problem we have had is storage agent sessions that start every
couple of hours and hang up on the TSM server. So far it seems they do not
time out. We have been cancelling them and are working with TSM support to
fix this problem.

Linda Seeba   Phone: (314) 234-5190
I/T Specialist - Sr  Fax: (314) 232-4581
IBM Global Services   E-Mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Hello,

I will soon implement my first TSM Server on a SAN network.

The SAN is connected with a MA8000 storage server, 5 NT clients, and 1 Sun
Unix server
Each machine has local disk + san-attached storage and will use TDP for
oracle to make backups
(data on the MA8000).

I read that a backup/archive of regular files is also possible since TSM
4.2.

Now, is it correct that with LAN-Free backup :

- I can't use diskpools (on the SAN), with migration (next
storage pool)
to the tapelibrary, over the SAN ?
- You always make a "direct connection" from the backup
client to the
storage device which takes the backup
  (tape).  So data transfers twice through the SAN-switch ?
>From the
MA8000 storage server to the client
  (storage agent) and then, from the client to the tape
library ?
- The maximum number of concurrent clientbackups is limited
to the number
of drives in the library('s) ?
  Because we can't use a SAN diskpool as destination the
number of mount
points is limited to the number of
  drives ? (disk has unlimited number of mountpoints)
- If I want to do Serverless backup / use SAN diskpools I
need Saner

Re: NT Terminal Server Client

[Lars-Erik Öhman]

I have had this problem a few months ago, and I think that SYSTEM didn´t
have any rights on C:.

/Larsa

-Original Message-
From: Tomáš Hrouda [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
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Hi all,

I have trouble to install TSM client 4.2 on NT 4.0 (Terminal Server
Edition), SP6 . During instalation process, exactly on its start (before
copying files) following error message appears and installation crash:

1603: General Windows Installer engine error.
Increase Disk space requirement in Setup.ini and try again.

There is about 30GB free space on the target disk (C:). Any idea?

Many thanks

Toma9 Hrouda
Storage Specialist
HTD s.r.o. Praha
tel. +420 (2) 6791 3157
fax. +420 (2) 6791 3162
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Re: LAN Free (SAN) Backup

[Bill Mansfield]

Regarding your 4th bullet, there is no Server Less backup as yet.  In all
cases the data must be passed through a server between the SAN disk storage
and the SAN tape storage.



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Senior Consultant
Solution Technology, Inc




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Hello,

I will soon implement my first TSM Server on a SAN network.

The SAN is connected with a MA8000 storage server, 5 NT clients, and 1 Sun
Unix server
Each machine has local disk + san-attached storage and will use TDP for
oracle to make backups
(data on the MA8000).

I read that a backup/archive of regular files is also possible since TSM
4.2.

Now, is it correct that with LAN-Free backup :

- I can't use diskpools (on the SAN), with migration (next
storage pool)
to the tapelibrary, over the SAN ?
- You always make a "direct connection" from the backup
client to the
storage device which takes the backup
  (tape).  So data transfers twice through the SAN-switch ?
>From the
MA8000 storage server to the client
  (storage agent) and then, from the client to the tape
library ?
- The maximum number of concurrent clientbackups is limited
to the number
of drives in the library('s) ?
  Because we can't use a SAN diskpool as destination the
number of mount
points is limited to the number of
  drives ? (disk has unlimited number of mountpoints)
- If I want to do Serverless backup / use SAN diskpools I
need Sanergy ?

Can you give me any advices concerning LAN-Free / Serverless backup ?

Thank you for your help.

Wouter V.
Unix System Engineer.

Re: LAN Free (SAN) Backup

[Wouter V]

OK, I can accept that : it means that data transfers twice over the SAN :
from disk to server and from disk to SAN
tape storage, wright ?


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Regarding your 4th bullet, there is no Server Less backup as yet.  In all
cases the data must be passed through a server between the SAN disk storage
and the SAN tape storage.



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Senior Consultant
Solution Technology, Inc




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Hello,

I will soon implement my first TSM Server on a SAN network.

The SAN is connected with a MA8000 storage server, 5 NT clients, and 1 Sun
Unix server
Each machine has local disk + san-attached storage and will use TDP for
oracle to make backups
(data on the MA8000).

I read that a backup/archive of regular files is also possible since TSM
4.2.

Now, is it correct that with LAN-Free backup :

- I can't use diskpools (on the SAN), with migration (next
storage pool)
to the tapelibrary, over the SAN ?
- You always make a "direct connection" from the backup
client to the
storage device which takes the backup
  (tape).  So data transfers twice through the SAN-switch ?
>From the
MA8000 storage server to the client
  (storage agent) and then, from the client to the tape
library ?
- The maximum number of concurrent clientbackups is limited
to the number
of drives in the library('s) ?
  Because we can't use a SAN diskpool as destination the
number of mount
points is limited to the number of
  drives ? (disk has unlimited number of mountpoints)
- If I want to do Serverless backup / use SAN diskpools I
need Sanergy ?

Can you give me any advices concerning LAN-Free / Serverless backup ?

Thank you for your help.

Wouter V.
Unix System Engineer.

Re: backup disk pool vs backup tape pool

[John Naylor]

You can easily narrow this down and find if a single client is causing the
problem.
Compare q occ  wriiten to a file taken at 06:00 with another taken at 09:00.
The client/s with an increase in data in the tape pool is the offender






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At 6:00 my backup disk pool is copied to my copy tape pool.
This takes about 3 hours.

At 9:00 my backup tape pool is copied to my copy tape pool.
This usually takes about 5 minutes!

Recently, the 5 minutes has grown to an hour or more!
What would cause this?  Why would data go directly to the backup tape pool,
and not the backup disk pool?


Thanks,
Marc Levitan
Storage Manager
PFPC Global Fund Services








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backup disk pool vs backup tape pool

[Marc Levitan]

At 6:00 my backup disk pool is copied to my copy tape pool.
This takes about 3 hours.

At 9:00 my backup tape pool is copied to my copy tape pool.
This usually takes about 5 minutes!

Recently, the 5 minutes has grown to an hour or more!
What would cause this?  Why would data go directly to the backup tape pool,
and not the backup disk pool?


Thanks,
Marc Levitan
Storage Manager
PFPC Global Fund Services

Re: Antwort: Re: ANR9999D with a strange message

[John Naylor]

Hi Wanda,

This sounds like one for support.
I don't know what your server version is, but is at a level which supports the
command
SET CONTEXTMESSAGING ON
This is supposed to give you a bit more background detail to the ANRD






"Prather, Wanda" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 11/13/2001 10:30:22 PM

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Yep.  I've done audit on EVERY volume in the library.  More than once.

Also, since the primary pool is collocated and the offsite pool is not, it
is frequently impossible to tell WHICH primary volume needs to be restored.

You see the error on the reclaim of the copy pool tapes; since we normally
hit many tapes in a reclaim cycle, you find these errors in the log and
can't really tell which primary pool tape is the culprit.

And when I can tell, the RESTORE VOLUME doesn't always fix it, and I end up
deleting the remainin few files on teh copy pool tape, on the assumption
that TSM will pick them up again the next time a do BACKUP STGPOOL.

So far, I"m baffled.

I see maybe 50 files a week with this error, while millions have gone
through reclaim.  And it's only the copy pool tapes that seem to have a
problem, so I haven't been scared enough by it yet to shut down and audit
the DB.  I"m thinking of doing that over the New Year holiday.






-Original Message-
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Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 5:05 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Antwort: Re: ANRD with a strange message


Have you done 'audit volume fix=yes'?  If these errors occur
during offsite reclaim, then the problem is on the primary tapes.

I have had problems like this a long time ago, nothing recent (knock on
wood).
I would do a move data on the primary volume until it quit with
the error, then audit the volume, fix=yes, then do move data again
until only bad files were on the tape, then do a restore volume.

I never, ever had to do a discarddata on a primary volume, restore
volume has always worked.


--
--
Bill Colwell
C. S. Draper Lab
Cambridge, Ma.
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In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on
11/13/01
   at 05:04 PM, "Prather, Wanda" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:

>The problem is here we don't have any idea what is being deleted if we
>delete it.
>These errors occur on RECLAIMS for COPY POOL tapes.  So you may be getting
>errors on stuff that is months old, and the client can't back it up again.
>If I could look at the contents of the tapes that won't reclaim and tell
>whether there is a good copy in the primary pool, or a later backup copy,
>that would be fine.  But running contents on the tape won't tell you that.

>And of course the big issue is WHY are we getting these errors? they are
>getting scary, as they shouldn't be there at all.  They are not the result
>of physical I/O errors on any media.




>-Original Message-
>From: Mark Stapleton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 12:49 PM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: Antwort: Re: ANRD with a strange message


>On Mon, 12 Nov 2001 09:53:51 +0100, it was written:
>>RESTORE VOLUME did not fix anything here. We are back at those
>>
>>ANRD ssrecons.c(2342): Actual:   Magic=1C9F3202,
>>SrvId=-61862846, SegGroupId=3512872581838733325,
>>SeqNum=805461472, converted=T.
>>
>>Messages. It seems that the data already were damaged when the BACKUP
>>STORAGEPOOL command run.
>>I am wondering now in two ways :
>>
>>2. What should we do next ? Do we have other possibilites than to do a
>DELETE
>>VOLUME xxx DISCARDDATA=YES ?

>It's not that bad a deal to delete a volume. When the clients do their
>first backup after the volume deletion, they will just back up the
>missing files again. Your biggest window of vulnerability will be a
>few hours.

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Re: LAN Free (SAN) Backup

[Bill Mansfield]

>From the 4.2 reference manual, under define devclass -- File

Tivoli ANergy version 2.2 is a prerequisite for storage to be shared |by
the server and storage agent. Tivoli SANergy must be installed and
|configured before you define the device class. |

As I understand it, any number of clients can use a SANergy file device
class simultaneously; they will all write to different files.

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Stor Manager"  
   
   
   
   
   




According to Tivoli, SANergy is not necessary using TSM 4.2.X.

http://www.tivoli.com/products/documents/updates/storage_mgr_42_enhancements.html


Best Regards

Daniel Sparrman
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Re: LAN Free (SAN) Backup

[Bill Mansfield]

Actually from SAN disk to TSM client, then from TSM client to SAN Tape (or
disk with SANergy) storage - twice across the SAN.  Some variety of
Serverless backup is promised in TSM 5.x next year.

_
William Mansfield
Senior Consultant
Solution Technology, Inc
630 718 4238



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OK, I can accept that : it means that data transfers twice over the SAN :
from disk to server and from disk to SAN
tape storage, wright ?


-Oorspronkelijk bericht-
Van: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Namens Bill
Mansfield
Verzonden: woensdag 14 november 2001 16:00
Aan: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Onderwerp: Re: LAN Free (SAN) Backup


Regarding your 4th bullet, there is no Server Less backup as yet.  In all
cases the data must be passed through a server between the SAN disk storage
and the SAN tape storage.



_
William Mansfield
Senior Consultant
Solution Technology, Inc




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Hello,

I will soon implement my first TSM Server on a SAN network.

The SAN is connected with a MA8000 storage server, 5 NT clients, and 1 Sun
Unix server
Each machine has local disk + san-attached storage and will use TDP for
oracle to make backups
(data on the MA8000).

I read that a backup/archive of regular files is also possible since TSM
4.2.

Now, is it correct that with LAN-Free backup :

- I can't use diskpools (on the SAN), with migration (next
storage pool)
to the tapelibrary, over the SAN ?
- You always make a "direct connection" from the backup
client to the
storage device which takes the backup
  (tape).  So data transfers twice through the SAN-switch ?
>From the
MA8000 storage server to the client
  (storage agent) and then, from the client to the tape
library ?
- The maximum number of concurrent clientbackups is limited
to the number
of drives in the library('s) ?
  Because we can't use a SAN diskpool as destination the
number of mount
points is limited to the number of
  drives ? (disk has unlimited number of mountpoints)
- If I want to do Serverless backup / use SAN diskpools I
need Sanergy ?

Can you give me any advices concerning LAN-Free / Serverless backup ?

Thank you for your help.

Wouter V.
Unix System Engineer.

TDP/R3: 3.1.x.x APAR IC31783 (upgrade to 3.2.0.6)

[Cook, Dwight E (SAIC)]

FYI.
if you are running 3.1.x.x you will probably want to advance to
3.2.0.6
APAR IC31783 is an event that we ran into the other day when building a dev
environment from a prod backup
IC31783 is NOT the type of problem you would want to run into when
trying/having to restore a production environment !
we saw it in a Solaris environment but are upgrading both Solaris & AIX
clients

just some FYI that will potentially save some grief later...

Dwight


APAR= IC31783
RESTORING FILE WITH WRONG CONTENT WITH TDP FOR R/3
Status: CLOSED
Closed: 11/07/01
Apar Information:
Error Description:
TDP for R/3 V3.1.x.x - V3.2.0.4
Restoring file with wrong content, f.ex. restoring redolog file and getting
back content of configuration file. .
Problem fixed in V3.2.0.5 or higher.
Problem Summary: If two archive runs started within one minute, only the
second file could be restored.

TSM Easter Egg

[Warren, Matthew James]

Hi TSM'ers;

I'm not sure if this is known or if there are similar things in previous
clients, but the command

TSM> show developers

Gives a little message and a quick Hello.


Kudos to them !



Matt.

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EDS
UK Technical Support;
Storage Administration Group.
Wavendon Tower, Milton Keynes.
Office / +44(0)1908284481
Mobile / +44(0)7790492034
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Re: backup disk pool vs backup tape pool

[Tomas Hrouda]

Hi Marc,

try to check high migration percent (HMP) of diskool, maybe it's too high -
large files comes over directly to tape when diskpool is near to fullfilling
without starting migration of diskpool - then backup time of your tape pool
grow because of that "bypasing files" are not backed up from diskpool like
others. Note, that is not good set HMP to near to 100% or 100% between
planed migrations because of previous mentioned.

Best ragards
Tom



-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Marc
Levitan
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 3:52 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: backup disk pool vs backup tape pool


At 6:00 my backup disk pool is copied to my copy tape pool.
This takes about 3 hours.

At 9:00 my backup tape pool is copied to my copy tape pool.
This usually takes about 5 minutes!

Recently, the 5 minutes has grown to an hour or more!
What would cause this?  Why would data go directly to the backup tape pool,
and not the backup disk pool?


Thanks,
Marc Levitan
Storage Manager
PFPC Global Fund Services

Need to move old/misdirected backups of a filespace from one tape storage pool to another

[Kent Monthei]

A node has been misdirecting a huge amount of data into our on-site
TAPEPOOL because of missing management class bindings in an inclexcl file
(several missing 'include  ' statements).
Several of the node's filespaces should have been backed up directly to
another tape storage pool that goes off-site daily.  Instead, they now
occupy a lot of TAPEPOOL tapes/slots in an already-crowded tape library.

We corrected the management class bindings, ran a backup, and confirmed the
new backups are now going to the proper storage pool.  However, we also
confirmed that all the old backups still occupy tapes/slots in the tape
library's TAPEPOOL.

 Is there a way to move old filespace backups out of TAPEPOOL and & merge
them into another storage pool ?  This applies to a subset of filespaces
for 1 node.

I vaguely recall someone suggesting this (or a very similar) procedure:
 1)  identify volumes containing data for the node/filespace
 2)  define a diskpool whose migration destination is the correct
tapepool
 2)  use MOVE DATA to move the content of those volumes back to that
diskpool
 3)  use MIGRATION to move all the data to the correct destination
pool(s).

Will this work?  Does it presume or rely upon collocation by node or by
filespace?  What happens to any data on those volumes from other filespaces
or other nodes?   Will existing/undesired content presently in COPYPOOL be
removed immediately?

I emphasize that the backups are valid, just in the wrong pool, and need to
be preserved.  Duplication to COPYPOOL was never intended and we'd like to
ensure both the TAPEPOOL and COPYPOOL content for these filespaces is
removed.

-rsvp, thanks

Kent Monthei
GlaxoSmithKline

How to rename a primary pool used by TDP for Oracle?

[Thiha Than]

hi,


>my next problem is related to the TDP for Oracle Backup on AIX. I'm
trying to
>rename the primary pool for the Oracle backups. The old name ist ADSMORC
(the
>default, afaik). I set up the new name on the TSM server and changed the
>variable DSMO_FS accordingly. TDP generates the following error:

>ANR0520W Transaction failed for session 34535 for node
>FFM0XAB0_ORA (TDP Oracle AIX) - storage pool ADSMORC is
>not defined.

>Oracle is 8.0.6,
>AIX is 4.3.3
>TSM Server is 4.1.4
>TDP for Oracle Backup on AIX is 2.1.10

Storage pool and DSMO_FS are two different things.  Storage pool is where
your data is physically backed up to.  DSMO_FS is just a logical file
system name that TDPO backups are saved under.  Your problem is that the
management class your TDPO node is bound to is pointing to a a storage
pool that doesn't exist.  Apparently, the management class is still using
the old storage pool name adsmorc. From admin command line issue "q copy
 active * f=d" and look for "Copy Destination" value.
Make sure that it is pointing to the correct storage pool value.

The following is description of ANR0520W.

ANR0520W
Transaction failed for session session number for node node name (client platform) - 
storage pool pool name is not defined.

Explanation: The server rolls back a database update transaction for the specified
session because the destination specified for a management class copy
group specifies the named storage pool, but that storage pool does not
exist.
System Action: Server operation continues.
User Response: An administrator with policy authority over the client policy domain 
must
correct management class definitions so that copy group destinations refer
to defined storage pools, or the specified storage pool must be created by
an authorized administrator.



regards,
Thiha

TDP for Exchange

[Gerald Wichmann]

I asked earlier about the earlier version of the TDP for MSSQL. What
about the earlier version of the TDP for exchange? Did the TSM server
expire the backed up DB objects or were they given a unique name and you
had to tell the TDP to delete them?

Gerald Wichmann
System Engineer
StorageLink
408-844-8893 (v)
408-844-9801 (f)

Bad Performance in a SAN Environment

[Jorge Rodriguez]

Hi...
 
I have the following: AIX 4.3.3. TSM Server 4.2.0 Storage Agent 4.2.0 TSM Client 4.2.0 TDP for R/3 3.2.0.6, a McData fabric with LTO 3584 4 drives.
 
Using the B/A Client the results are:
 
Total number of objects inspected:  427Total number of objects backed up:  418Total number of objects updated:  0Total number of objects rebound:  0Total number of objects deleted:  0Total number of objects expired:  0Total number of objects failed:   0Total number of bytes transferred:   241.37 MBData transfer time:  188.87 secNetwork data transfer rate:    1,308.67 KB/secAggregate data transfer rate:  2,125.24 KB/secObjects compressed by:
    0%Elapsed processing time:   00:01:56
 
I have serious performance problems.
 
What Can I do to improve the performance?
 
Thanks in Advance
 
Jorge Rodrmguez
Caracas - VenezuelaGet your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

Re: TDP for Exchange

[Del Hoobler]

> I asked earlier about the earlier version of the TDP for MSSQL. What
> about the earlier version of the TDP for exchange? Did the TSM server
> expire the backed up DB objects or were they given a unique name and you
> had to tell the TDP to delete them?

Gerald,

Exchange version 1 works like SQL version 1, in that respect.

All objects inserted into the TSM backup storage pool by
the Exchange Application Client are given a unique name
so they are never expired by the TSM server. The Exchange
Application Client provides a delete function to remove
unwanted backup objects from the TSM server. However, for
the function to work, the VERDELETED parameter of the
Backup Copy Group should be set to 0 (zero). Then, when
the Exchange Application Client marks a backup object inactive,
that object is deleted from the TSM server the next
time expiration processing occurs. A backup object is
marked inactive when you delete it through the
Exchange Application Client interface.

The above text was taken from the version 1
TDP for Exchange Installation and User's Guide.

Thanks,

Del



Del Hoobler
IBM Corporation
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

"It's a beautiful day.  Don't let it get away."  -- Bono

Re: Need to move old/misdirected backups of a filespace from one tape storage pool to another

[Prather, Wanda]

But that won't get rid of the COPYPOOL copies, will it?  Relocating the
primary copy of backups from one primary pool to another doesn't affect the
copies already in the copy pool.

What about this:


1) EXPORT the node, by filespace if you want, specify FILEDATA=YES.
2) DELETE the filespaces.  That eliminates both the primary copy and the
COPYPOOL copies.  Careful to specify TYPE so that you delete only the BACKUP
data if these nodes also have archive data.
3) IMPORT the node again, specify a DOMAIN with all the same management
classes as the original, but all pointing to the proper pool.

Will that do it?

-Original Message-
From: Kelly Lipp [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 12:34 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Need to move old/misdirected backups of a filespace from
one tape storage pool to another


Kent,

Yes that works to the extent that client data is collocated on the tapes.
If there is another client's data on that tape, that client's data will move
too.

Kelly J. Lipp
Storage Solutions Specialists, Inc.
PO Box 51313
Colorado Springs, CO 80949
[EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.storsol.com or www.storserver.com
(719)531-5926
Fax: (240)539-7175


-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Kent Monthei
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 9:53 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Need to move old/misdirected backups of a filespace from one
tape storage pool to another


A node has been misdirecting a huge amount of data into our on-site
TAPEPOOL because of missing management class bindings in an inclexcl file
(several missing 'include  ' statements).
Several of the node's filespaces should have been backed up directly to
another tape storage pool that goes off-site daily.  Instead, they now
occupy a lot of TAPEPOOL tapes/slots in an already-crowded tape library.

We corrected the management class bindings, ran a backup, and confirmed the
new backups are now going to the proper storage pool.  However, we also
confirmed that all the old backups still occupy tapes/slots in the tape
library's TAPEPOOL.

 Is there a way to move old filespace backups out of TAPEPOOL and & merge
them into another storage pool ?  This applies to a subset of filespaces
for 1 node.

I vaguely recall someone suggesting this (or a very similar) procedure:
 1)  identify volumes containing data for the node/filespace
 2)  define a diskpool whose migration destination is the correct
tapepool
 2)  use MOVE DATA to move the content of those volumes back to that
diskpool
 3)  use MIGRATION to move all the data to the correct destination
pool(s).

Will this work?  Does it presume or rely upon collocation by node or by
filespace?  What happens to any data on those volumes from other filespaces
or other nodes?   Will existing/undesired content presently in COPYPOOL be
removed immediately?

I emphasize that the backups are valid, just in the wrong pool, and need to
be preserved.  Duplication to COPYPOOL was never intended and we'd like to
ensure both the TAPEPOOL and COPYPOOL content for these filespaces is
removed.

-rsvp, thanks

Kent Monthei
GlaxoSmithKline

Re: Need to move old/misdirected backups of a filespace from one tape storage pool to another

[Tab Trepagnier]

Wanda,

Yes, that will, with the exception that if archives are retained after the
export, they will "lock" the filespace name.  I am going through such a
evolution right now, and that is what happened with a node whose backup
data was exported, deleted, and imported; but whose archive data was never
touched.  I ended up with a "\d$" and a "\d1" both of which contain real
data.

Tab Trepagnier
TSM administrator
Laitram Corporation







"Prather, Wanda" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>@VM.MARIST.EDU> on 11/14/2001
11:46:30 AM

Please respond to "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Sent by:  "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
cc:
Subject:  Re: Need to move old/misdirected backups of a filespace from one
  tape storage pool to another


But that won't get rid of the COPYPOOL copies, will it?  Relocating the
primary copy of backups from one primary pool to another doesn't affect the
copies already in the copy pool.

What about this:


1) EXPORT the node, by filespace if you want, specify FILEDATA=YES.
2) DELETE the filespaces.  That eliminates both the primary copy and the
COPYPOOL copies.  Careful to specify TYPE so that you delete only the
BACKUP
data if these nodes also have archive data.
3) IMPORT the node again, specify a DOMAIN with all the same management
classes as the original, but all pointing to the proper pool.

Will that do it?

-Original Message-
From: Kelly Lipp [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 12:34 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Need to move old/misdirected backups of a filespace from
one tape storage pool to another


Kent,

Yes that works to the extent that client data is collocated on the tapes.
If there is another client's data on that tape, that client's data will
move
too.

Kelly J. Lipp
Storage Solutions Specialists, Inc.
PO Box 51313
Colorado Springs, CO 80949
[EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.storsol.com or www.storserver.com
(719)531-5926
Fax: (240)539-7175


-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Kent Monthei
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 9:53 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Need to move old/misdirected backups of a filespace from one
tape storage pool to another


A node has been misdirecting a huge amount of data into our on-site
TAPEPOOL because of missing management class bindings in an inclexcl file
(several missing 'include  ' statements).
Several of the node's filespaces should have been backed up directly to
another tape storage pool that goes off-site daily.  Instead, they now
occupy a lot of TAPEPOOL tapes/slots in an already-crowded tape library.

We corrected the management class bindings, ran a backup, and confirmed the
new backups are now going to the proper storage pool.  However, we also
confirmed that all the old backups still occupy tapes/slots in the tape
library's TAPEPOOL.

 Is there a way to move old filespace backups out of TAPEPOOL and & merge
them into another storage pool ?  This applies to a subset of filespaces
for 1 node.

I vaguely recall someone suggesting this (or a very similar) procedure:
 1)  identify volumes containing data for the node/filespace
 2)  define a diskpool whose migration destination is the correct
tapepool
 2)  use MOVE DATA to move the content of those volumes back to that
diskpool
 3)  use MIGRATION to move all the data to the correct destination
pool(s).

Will this work?  Does it presume or rely upon collocation by node or by
filespace?  What happens to any data on those volumes from other filespaces
or other nodes?   Will existing/undesired content presently in COPYPOOL be
removed immediately?

I emphasize that the backups are valid, just in the wrong pool, and need to
be preserved.  Duplication to COPYPOOL was never intended and we'd like to
ensure both the TAPEPOOL and COPYPOOL content for these filespaces is
removed.

-rsvp, thanks

Kent Monthei
GlaxoSmithKline

Re: Need to move old/misdirected backups of a filespace from one tape storage pool to another

[Kelly Lipp]

Kent,

Yes that works to the extent that client data is collocated on the tapes.
If there is another client's data on that tape, that client's data will move
too.

Kelly J. Lipp
Storage Solutions Specialists, Inc.
PO Box 51313
Colorado Springs, CO 80949
[EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.storsol.com or www.storserver.com
(719)531-5926
Fax: (240)539-7175


-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Kent Monthei
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 9:53 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Need to move old/misdirected backups of a filespace from one
tape storage pool to another


A node has been misdirecting a huge amount of data into our on-site
TAPEPOOL because of missing management class bindings in an inclexcl file
(several missing 'include  ' statements).
Several of the node's filespaces should have been backed up directly to
another tape storage pool that goes off-site daily.  Instead, they now
occupy a lot of TAPEPOOL tapes/slots in an already-crowded tape library.

We corrected the management class bindings, ran a backup, and confirmed the
new backups are now going to the proper storage pool.  However, we also
confirmed that all the old backups still occupy tapes/slots in the tape
library's TAPEPOOL.

 Is there a way to move old filespace backups out of TAPEPOOL and & merge
them into another storage pool ?  This applies to a subset of filespaces
for 1 node.

I vaguely recall someone suggesting this (or a very similar) procedure:
 1)  identify volumes containing data for the node/filespace
 2)  define a diskpool whose migration destination is the correct
tapepool
 2)  use MOVE DATA to move the content of those volumes back to that
diskpool
 3)  use MIGRATION to move all the data to the correct destination
pool(s).

Will this work?  Does it presume or rely upon collocation by node or by
filespace?  What happens to any data on those volumes from other filespaces
or other nodes?   Will existing/undesired content presently in COPYPOOL be
removed immediately?

I emphasize that the backups are valid, just in the wrong pool, and need to
be preserved.  Duplication to COPYPOOL was never intended and we'd like to
ensure both the TAPEPOOL and COPYPOOL content for these filespaces is
removed.

-rsvp, thanks

Kent Monthei
GlaxoSmithKline

Re: Need to move old/misdirected backups of a filespace from one tape storage pool to another

[Kelly Lipp]

That will do it and do it perfectly.  Lots of work though, but Kent has big,
fast servers and big, fast tape drives so that probably makes the most
sense.

Kelly J. Lipp
Storage Solutions Specialists, Inc.
PO Box 51313
Colorado Springs, CO 80949
[EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.storsol.com or www.storserver.com
(719)531-5926
Fax: (240)539-7175


-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Prather, Wanda
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 10:47 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Need to move old/misdirected backups of a filespace from
one tape storage pool to another


But that won't get rid of the COPYPOOL copies, will it?  Relocating the
primary copy of backups from one primary pool to another doesn't affect the
copies already in the copy pool.

What about this:


1) EXPORT the node, by filespace if you want, specify FILEDATA=YES.
2) DELETE the filespaces.  That eliminates both the primary copy and the
COPYPOOL copies.  Careful to specify TYPE so that you delete only the BACKUP
data if these nodes also have archive data.
3) IMPORT the node again, specify a DOMAIN with all the same management
classes as the original, but all pointing to the proper pool.

Will that do it?

-Original Message-
From: Kelly Lipp [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 12:34 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Need to move old/misdirected backups of a filespace from
one tape storage pool to another


Kent,

Yes that works to the extent that client data is collocated on the tapes.
If there is another client's data on that tape, that client's data will move
too.

Kelly J. Lipp
Storage Solutions Specialists, Inc.
PO Box 51313
Colorado Springs, CO 80949
[EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.storsol.com or www.storserver.com
(719)531-5926
Fax: (240)539-7175


-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Kent Monthei
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 9:53 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Need to move old/misdirected backups of a filespace from one
tape storage pool to another


A node has been misdirecting a huge amount of data into our on-site
TAPEPOOL because of missing management class bindings in an inclexcl file
(several missing 'include  ' statements).
Several of the node's filespaces should have been backed up directly to
another tape storage pool that goes off-site daily.  Instead, they now
occupy a lot of TAPEPOOL tapes/slots in an already-crowded tape library.

We corrected the management class bindings, ran a backup, and confirmed the
new backups are now going to the proper storage pool.  However, we also
confirmed that all the old backups still occupy tapes/slots in the tape
library's TAPEPOOL.

 Is there a way to move old filespace backups out of TAPEPOOL and & merge
them into another storage pool ?  This applies to a subset of filespaces
for 1 node.

I vaguely recall someone suggesting this (or a very similar) procedure:
 1)  identify volumes containing data for the node/filespace
 2)  define a diskpool whose migration destination is the correct
tapepool
 2)  use MOVE DATA to move the content of those volumes back to that
diskpool
 3)  use MIGRATION to move all the data to the correct destination
pool(s).

Will this work?  Does it presume or rely upon collocation by node or by
filespace?  What happens to any data on those volumes from other filespaces
or other nodes?   Will existing/undesired content presently in COPYPOOL be
removed immediately?

I emphasize that the backups are valid, just in the wrong pool, and need to
be preserved.  Duplication to COPYPOOL was never intended and we'd like to
ensure both the TAPEPOOL and COPYPOOL content for these filespaces is
removed.

-rsvp, thanks

Kent Monthei
GlaxoSmithKline

Re: Bad Performance in a SAN Environment

[Suad Musovich]

Jorge,

Please turn off html editing of your e-mail messages, some of us don't
have browser capable mail readers.

Suad
--
On Wed, Nov 14, 2001 at 02:01:37PM -0400, Jorge Rodriguez wrote:

Re: Need to move old/misdirected backups of a filespace from one tape storage pool to another

[Prather, Wanda]

Ah.  Then it's probably easier to export/import the archive data as well.
Thanks.

-Original Message-
From: Tab Trepagnier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 12:51 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Need to move old/misdirected backups of a filespace from
one tape storage pool to another


Wanda,

Yes, that will, with the exception that if archives are retained after the
export, they will "lock" the filespace name.  I am going through such a
evolution right now, and that is what happened with a node whose backup
data was exported, deleted, and imported; but whose archive data was never
touched.  I ended up with a "\d$" and a "\d1" both of which contain real
data.

Tab Trepagnier
TSM administrator
Laitram Corporation







"Prather, Wanda" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>@VM.MARIST.EDU> on 11/14/2001
11:46:30 AM

Please respond to "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Sent by:  "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
cc:
Subject:  Re: Need to move old/misdirected backups of a filespace from one
  tape storage pool to another


But that won't get rid of the COPYPOOL copies, will it?  Relocating the
primary copy of backups from one primary pool to another doesn't affect the
copies already in the copy pool.

What about this:


1) EXPORT the node, by filespace if you want, specify FILEDATA=YES.
2) DELETE the filespaces.  That eliminates both the primary copy and the
COPYPOOL copies.  Careful to specify TYPE so that you delete only the
BACKUP
data if these nodes also have archive data.
3) IMPORT the node again, specify a DOMAIN with all the same management
classes as the original, but all pointing to the proper pool.

Will that do it?

-Original Message-
From: Kelly Lipp [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 12:34 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Need to move old/misdirected backups of a filespace from
one tape storage pool to another


Kent,

Yes that works to the extent that client data is collocated on the tapes.
If there is another client's data on that tape, that client's data will
move
too.

Kelly J. Lipp
Storage Solutions Specialists, Inc.
PO Box 51313
Colorado Springs, CO 80949
[EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.storsol.com or www.storserver.com
(719)531-5926
Fax: (240)539-7175


-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Kent Monthei
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 9:53 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Need to move old/misdirected backups of a filespace from one
tape storage pool to another


A node has been misdirecting a huge amount of data into our on-site
TAPEPOOL because of missing management class bindings in an inclexcl file
(several missing 'include  ' statements).
Several of the node's filespaces should have been backed up directly to
another tape storage pool that goes off-site daily.  Instead, they now
occupy a lot of TAPEPOOL tapes/slots in an already-crowded tape library.

We corrected the management class bindings, ran a backup, and confirmed the
new backups are now going to the proper storage pool.  However, we also
confirmed that all the old backups still occupy tapes/slots in the tape
library's TAPEPOOL.

 Is there a way to move old filespace backups out of TAPEPOOL and & merge
them into another storage pool ?  This applies to a subset of filespaces
for 1 node.

I vaguely recall someone suggesting this (or a very similar) procedure:
 1)  identify volumes containing data for the node/filespace
 2)  define a diskpool whose migration destination is the correct
tapepool
 2)  use MOVE DATA to move the content of those volumes back to that
diskpool
 3)  use MIGRATION to move all the data to the correct destination
pool(s).

Will this work?  Does it presume or rely upon collocation by node or by
filespace?  What happens to any data on those volumes from other filespaces
or other nodes?   Will existing/undesired content presently in COPYPOOL be
removed immediately?

I emphasize that the backups are valid, just in the wrong pool, and need to
be preserved.  Duplication to COPYPOOL was never intended and we'd like to
ensure both the TAPEPOOL and COPYPOOL content for these filespaces is
removed.

-rsvp, thanks

Kent Monthei
GlaxoSmithKline

Re: TSM Server locking

[Jeff Bach]

Does Tivoli analyze of root cause this problem for ANY of its customers?  Or
did they just reboot the UNIX systems or bounce the ADSM application?

One root cause is the ADSM/TSM server not being able to recover from the
failure of an OS call.  This is specifically the case when waiting for
library manager commands to return.

Jeff Bach
Home Office Open Systems Engineering
Wal-Mart Stores, Inc.

WAL-MART CONFIDENTIAL


-Original Message-
From:   Subash, Chandra [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   Tuesday, November 13, 2001 6:34 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:Re: TSM Server locking

Try rebooting ur server .
If it happens again apply a patch or contact tivoli

-Original Message-
From: Gabriel Wiley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 11:08 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: TSM Server locking


Becky,

I have experienced that before.

What I found out was,  I had 2 lmcpd  daemons running.

No library communication from TSM, I could see the Library from AIX.
(TSM
got confused and hung itself)

That does not seem to be the case for you unless you shutdown the
physical
server? . ?

When it came back up it started fresh daemons ??

I killed te daemon processes, then halted TSM and brought it back
up.

Worked for me.

Gabriel C. Wiley
ADSM/TSM Administrator
AIX Support
Phone 1-614-308-6709
Pager  1-877-489-2867
Fax  1-614-308-6637
Cell   1-740-972-6441


"Davidson, Becky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>@VM.MARIST.EDU> on
11/13/2001
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Subject:  TSM Server locking


I am running
tsm server 4.1.2
aix 4.3.3
12 3590E1A in a 3494
TDP for R/3 3.2.06

This past weekend at 16:00 my backup started by backing up my
archive logs
to disk.  It opened 10 of 11 threads and then did absolutely nothing
else.
Other processes started during the night and anything that did not
require
a
tape drive  ran and completed successfully (dr tape courier to
vault,
expiration, various admin commands) but anything that needed a drive
opened
and did nothing more.  I discovered it Sunday morning around 11 by
logging
in, noticing the problem and doing a q dr.  It never returned.  I
have had
a
similar situation before and my experience has said if you do a q dr
and it
doesn't return recycle the TSM Server.  I did that and everything
continued
to normal but I have no idea why this happened.  I am honestly not
sure
where to look.  Is it TDP?  Is it the TSM Server?  Is it something
to do
with the tape drives?  Any suggestions?

Thanks in advance for any suggestions

Becky Davidson
Data Manager/AIX Administrator
EDS/Sara Lee Bakery Group
voice: 314-259-7589
fax: 314-877-8589
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Re: AIX and LTO 3583

[Katherine Faella]

Hi,

Thanks to all of you for your help - slot 16 is the I/O port.  All I had to
do was put the tape in that port and the 3583 moved it into a slot!  I
should have thought of that!

I do have a follow-up question, or should I say another question.

When I use the command

  move drmedia * wherestate=mountable tostate=vault

to move my DBbackup and COPY storage pool tapes offsite, my filling copy
tapes are moved as well.  Is there an easy way to move one or more back
into the library so that I can continue filling it/them?  These tapes have
such large capacity I hate to see too many sitting practically empty in my
"vault".

Thanks again for all your help,

Katherine Faella
University of Rhode Island

>Help!  I am feeling quite dumb here, have searched the archives and read
>the manuals all to no avail.  It's probably just me ...

>I have an IBM LTO 3583 library.  I have successfully inserted tapes and
>begun backing up with TSM.  All
>was going well.   Recently I decided that it was time to use the library as
>it was intended.  Using DRM I
>decided I should remove COPY tapes and DB Backup Tapes etc.  and keep them
>in my "vault".   That was
>easy.  Now however I would like to put back in some of the tapes that have
>expired.  Here is where I am
>having trouble.

>We have one column in the library to hold tapes and one I/O port.  I can
>add new scratch tapes with label
>libvolume ... checkin=scratch ..but I can not seem to get those old
>used and expired tapes back in.

>I have tried the   checking libvolume x scratch=yes.  I am prompted
>(through the actlog) to insert the tape in slot 16.  Here is my problem.
>Which slot is 16?  I have tried a couple of different ones and get

> ANR8306I 007: Insert LTO volume 111ACH R/W into the slot
>  with element number 16 of library LTOLIB within
58
>  minutes; issue 'REPLY' along with the request ID
>when
>  ready. 
>11/13/2001 13:49:19  ANR2017I Administrator OPERATIONS issued command:
>REPLY 7
>11/13/2001 13:49:19  ANR8499I Command accepted.

>11/13/2001 13:52:12  ANR8300E I/O error on library LTOLIB (OP=6C03,
>CC=314,
>  KEY=05, ASC=3B, ASCQ=0E,


>I do not know how to tell what slot is 16.   Help!  Pretty soon I will run
>out of new tapes to add and I can't get the old ones back in.  I feel
>foolish.  It seems like this should be easy.  Help!   And will we're at it,
>how can I log on an admin client (in line mode) with mount messages being
>sent to this session.

>Thanks in advance for any and all help, including RTFM -  just tell me what
>page number!

Re: LAN Free (SAN) Backup

[Wouter V]

OK you could write it in better terms then I, but that's what I wanted to
hear.

Thank you all for your responses ! The mailings about this subject were very
instructive.

I wonder what TSM 5.x will bring concerning LAN-Free and serverless backups.

Regards,

Wouter Verschaeve


-Oorspronkelijk bericht-
Van: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Namens Bill
Mansfield
Verzonden: woensdag 14 november 2001 17:51
Aan: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Onderwerp: Re: LAN Free (SAN) Backup


Actually from SAN disk to TSM client, then from TSM client to SAN Tape (or
disk with SANergy) storage - twice across the SAN.  Some variety of
Serverless backup is promised in TSM 5.x next year.

_
William Mansfield
Senior Consultant
Solution Technology, Inc
630 718 4238



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OK, I can accept that : it means that data transfers twice over the SAN :
from disk to server and from disk to SAN
tape storage, wright ?

Re: AIX and LTO 3583

[Gabriel Wiley]

Kelly,
I feel the same way here is a script to help you out:

LSTDRMVOL
select volume_name, pct_utilized,stgpool_name,status from volumes where
devclass_name like '%3590%' and volume_name in (select volume_name from
drmedia where state='MOUNTABLE') order by stgpool_name,pct_utilized

^ Shows the % utilized so I can pick which ones I want to eject, this does
not show the DBbackups, cause I have yet to add that piece in.

I also use this script :

LSTDISRVOL

select volume_name as DISR_VOLUMES from drmedia  where state='MOUNTABLE'

I run the first one then run the second one and deduce the 'Filling'
volumes from the first script  and that's my list.

Hope it helps~

Gabriel C. Wiley
ADSM/TSM Administrator
AIX Support
Phone 1-614-308-6709
Pager  1-877-489-2867
Fax  1-614-308-6637
Cell   1-740-972-6441


Katherine Faella <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>@VM.MARIST.EDU> on 11/14/2001 01:47:57 PM

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Hi,

Thanks to all of you for your help - slot 16 is the I/O port.  All I had to
do was put the tape in that port and the 3583 moved it into a slot!  I
should have thought of that!

I do have a follow-up question, or should I say another question.

When I use the command

  move drmedia * wherestate=mountable tostate=vault

to move my DBbackup and COPY storage pool tapes offsite, my filling copy
tapes are moved as well.  Is there an easy way to move one or more back
into the library so that I can continue filling it/them?  These tapes have
such large capacity I hate to see too many sitting practically empty in my
"vault".

Thanks again for all your help,

Katherine Faella
University of Rhode Island

>Help!  I am feeling quite dumb here, have searched the archives and read
>the manuals all to no avail.  It's probably just me ...

>I have an IBM LTO 3583 library.  I have successfully inserted tapes and
>begun backing up with TSM.  All
>was going well.   Recently I decided that it was time to use the library
as
>it was intended.  Using DRM I
>decided I should remove COPY tapes and DB Backup Tapes etc.  and keep them
>in my "vault".   That was
>easy.  Now however I would like to put back in some of the tapes that have
>expired.  Here is where I am
>having trouble.

>We have one column in the library to hold tapes and one I/O port.  I can
>add new scratch tapes with label
>libvolume ... checkin=scratch ..but I can not seem to get those old
>used and expired tapes back in.

>I have tried the   checking libvolume x scratch=yes.  I am prompted
>(through the actlog) to insert the tape in slot 16.  Here is my problem.
>Which slot is 16?  I have tried a couple of different ones and get

> ANR8306I 007: Insert LTO volume 111ACH R/W into the slot
>  with element number 16 of library LTOLIB within
58
>  minutes; issue 'REPLY' along with the request ID
>when
>  ready. 
>11/13/2001 13:49:19  ANR2017I Administrator OPERATIONS issued command:
>REPLY 7
>11/13/2001 13:49:19  ANR8499I Command accepted.

>11/13/2001 13:52:12  ANR8300E I/O error on library LTOLIB
(OP=6C03,
>CC=314,
>  KEY=05, ASC=3B, ASCQ=0E,


>I do not know how to tell what slot is 16.   Help!  Pretty soon I will run
>out of new tapes to add and I can't get the old ones back in.  I feel
>foolish.  It seems like this should be easy.  Help!   And will we're at
it,
>how can I log on an admin client (in line mode) with mount messages being
>sent to this session.

>Thanks in advance for any and all help, including RTFM -  just tell me
what
>page number!

file name length error

[Rob Schroeder]

Here is the error I am seeing in my TSM error log for a Win2000 client
running 4.1.3 to a Win2000 server running TSM server 4.1.4.1



11/14/2001 02:51:33 ANS1228E Sending of object 
'\\ffdata01\d$\Data\IS\Projects\P2915002 Aldon  ACMS (Phase II)\p2915001 Software 
Configuration
Management - Acquire and Install Aldon\document\Java classes that didnt 
parse\com\famousfootwear\systems\retail\forms\personal\boundary' failed
11/14/2001 02:51:35 ANS4018E Error processing '\\ffdata01\d$': file name too long
11/14/2001 02:51:35 ANS1512E Scheduled event 'DATA01' failed.  Return code = 4.

What is the maximum file length name that is supported in TSM?  Also, according to the 
messages book,this file should get skipped and the backup
should continue...however my
backup failed.

Has anyone seen this?


Rob Schroeder
Famous Footwear

STK Powerhorn Silos

[Richard L. Rhodes]

How well does TSM work with STK silos?

- issues
- problems

Thanks

Rick

Re: Transferring Filespace Owners Ship

[Joe Faracchio]

Yes, I figured out you can do this with EXPORT judicious use of
rename node *before* AND *after*.  The trick is to 'keep your wits'
about it.

FILESPACE-X from UserA to UserB.
Rename UserB to UserHold.  Rename UserA to UserB.
Export FILESPACE-X .  Rename UserA back to itself from B
Rename UserHold back to UserB
Import FILESPACE-X.

hope this helps! ... joe.f.


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On Wed, 31 Oct 2001, Prather, Wanda wrote:

> There is no formal "supported" way to do this.  We NEED a way to move
> ownership of a backed-up filespace to another node because of the way data
> centers work - lots of server consolidation going on, servers coming and
> going and changing identities PERPETUALLY.
>
> However, didn't somebody on the list figure out a way to do this with EXPORT
> a while back?
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Joshua S. Bassi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2001 9:11 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Transferring Filespace Owners Ship
>
>
> All you can do is a rename node and the file spaces will go with the new
> nodename.
>
>
> --
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> Independent IT Consultant
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> Tivoli Certified Consultant- ADSM/TSM
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> -Original Message-
> From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
> Dearman, Richard
> Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2001 3:42 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Transferring Filespace Owners Ship
>
> Is there anyway to transfer ownership of a filespace from one node to
> another node within TSM.   I want to re-register the current filespace
> under
> the new node name so I can delete the old node name.  The new node name
> is
> also in a different policy domain with different rules.  For example:
> I'm
> backing up a server registered as Server1 in TSM for 1 month.
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
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LP8000 + Emulex driver + AIX 4.3 : it works !

[ORNESS]

Hi  TSMers,

just some hints for those (like me) who are (were) hesisating between LP8000
and IBM 622x ?

Except for the price side, LP8000s come with their own non-IBM drivers...
I had some difficulties to make them work...

LP8000 and 622x are belongs to the same family.

LP6000/LP7000 is recognized under AIX as devices.pci.df1000f7 (f700)
LP8000 is recognized under AIX as devices.pci.df1000f8 (f800)  (Emulex
jumper set)
LP8000 is recognized under BULL AIX as devices.pci.df1001f8 (f801)  (bull
jumper set)
LP900x is recognized under AIX as devices.pci.df1000f9

IBM supports (they told me) the LP8000 but there is not the least driver
called .df1000f8
you can only find ...f7 and ...f9 ones.

Here is my experience (many thanx again to my STK support guy !)

- remove all fc drivers (including IBM.common.fc)
- install devices.pci.lpfc.* stuff

- if you are in a point-to-point connection (LP8000 - fibre - T9840), leave
the ODM value 'topology'
set  to 4
- if you are in a switched fabric (LP8000 - fibre - StorageNet 41xx -
fibre - T9840), change the ODM value 'topology'
set  to 2
- reboot

- manually create your TSM mtX device(s) with the mkdev command..

However, I still have TWO pbs :
-
1) I can not see any drive through the SAN, my switch is well configured,
all my ports are F_ports.
I filled the /etc/lpfc.conf with the WWW of my drives associated to the
desired target by neither
a cfgmgr nor a reboot change anything.

Can someone send me his /etc/lpfc.conf

2) As direct conection uses a LOOP protocol, if  I change something on your
lpfcX driver of rmtX drive
(for instance, block_size), I'm not able to make the device available again
with a 'mkdev -l lpfcX'

I must reboot !

Thanx for your help
Herve (with Dimon)

TDP for Exchange Problem

[Gerald Wichmann]

We have an Exchange server running TDP v1.1.1. It's been backing up for
a year or so and someone noticed it has somewhere around 2.9TB of data
backed up. This shouldn't be because as far as we know it was set up to
only store 30 days with one 10GB Full done per day, and 4 60MB
incrementals done each day during the day. If you do the math that
should be around 10GB * 30 days = 300GB for the fulls.. and less for the
increments.. nowhere near 3TB..

In loading the GUI, the individual only sees 30 days of backups backed
up. So by the GUI it appears as though it's working correctly.

The two pieces don't mesh and my suspicion is that old backups aren't
being expired but I'm not sure how to verify that. Could someone tell me
what the best way would be to determine what is going on here? I
suggested looking for the log files and looking in there. But in the
meantime I also wanted to shoot off this email in hopes there was
another way to look into this problem. Perhaps some command line
commands I could try.

I thought aobut doing a "q backup -subdir=yes "C:\*"" but wasn't sure if
that would yield anything since exchange  TDP backups probably don't go
under C:\

Anyways any help greatly appreciated. Unfortunately I don't have any
documents for v1.1 on me and tivoli's site lacks them too. Plus I'm
trying to troubleshoot this problem 2nd hand instead of being on the box
itself.

Gerald Wichmann
System Engineer
StorageLink
408-844-8893 (v)
408-844-9801 (f)

Re: Antwort: Re: ANR9999D with a strange message

[BURDEN,Anthony]

I have been sort of following this thread,

This is not a very technical description, and my understanding of your
problem.

A: you restored your DB.
B: you audited your on-site tapes with the fix option
C: you try to reclaim the off-site tapes and you get "magic numbers"

What I have seen on my site is that once I have restored the DB to a
point in time some of the data held in the stgpools; both disk and tape
is unknown to TSM. You receive a magic number on a tape when TSM runs
across this data either reading or writing, you are correct in saying an
audit/fix on the tape should solve this issue, but it does sound like
the next option for you to try is an audit/fix on the database.
Depending on the size it should be completed in 24hrs.

Also you mention that this is happening when you try to reclaim the
copypool tapes, what is happening when you reclaim or move tapepool
tapes.

Also when you try to restore a volume, have you looked at restoring the
stgpool with the view only option to see what that thinks of your
current state.

I never have the time to run audit/fix on my tapes pools, I have to many
tapes, so normally I run it on the tapes as the error appears. 

Anyway not much help I know. My servers are TSM 4.1.4.1 on NT2000 and
NT4.0 using STK9710 silo's.

Anthony.




 -Original Message-
From:   John Naylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent:   Thursday, 15 November 2001 3:42 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Antwort: Re: ANRD with a strange message

Hi Wanda,

This sounds like one for support.
I don't know what your server version is, but is at a level which
supports the
command
SET CONTEXTMESSAGING ON
This is supposed to give you a bit more background detail to the
ANRD






"Prather, Wanda" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 11/13/2001 10:30:22 PM

Please respond to "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
cc:(bcc: John Naylor/HAV/SSE)
Subject:  Re: Antwort: Re: ANRD with a strange message



Yep.  I've done audit on EVERY volume in the library.  More than once.

Also, since the primary pool is collocated and the offsite pool is not,
it
is frequently impossible to tell WHICH primary volume needs to be
restored.

You see the error on the reclaim of the copy pool tapes; since we
normally
hit many tapes in a reclaim cycle, you find these errors in the log and
can't really tell which primary pool tape is the culprit.

And when I can tell, the RESTORE VOLUME doesn't always fix it, and I end
up
deleting the remainin few files on teh copy pool tape, on the assumption
that TSM will pick them up again the next time a do BACKUP STGPOOL.

So far, I"m baffled.

I see maybe 50 files a week with this error, while millions have gone
through reclaim.  And it's only the copy pool tapes that seem to have a
problem, so I haven't been scared enough by it yet to shut down and
audit
the DB.  I"m thinking of doing that over the New Year holiday.






-Original Message-
From: Bill Colwell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 5:05 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Antwort: Re: ANRD with a strange message


Have you done 'audit volume fix=yes'?  If these errors occur
during offsite reclaim, then the problem is on the primary tapes.

I have had problems like this a long time ago, nothing recent (knock on
wood).
I would do a move data on the primary volume until it quit with
the error, then audit the volume, fix=yes, then do move data again
until only bad files were on the tape, then do a restore volume.

I never, ever had to do a discarddata on a primary volume, restore
volume has always worked.


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Bill Colwell
C. S. Draper Lab
Cambridge, Ma.
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In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on
11/13/01
   at 05:04 PM, "Prather, Wanda" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:

>The problem is here we don't have any idea what is being deleted if we
>delete it.
>These errors occur on RECLAIMS for COPY POOL tapes.  So you may be
getting
>errors on stuff that is months old, and the client can't back it up
again.
>If I could look at the contents of the tapes that won't reclaim and
tell
>whether there is a good copy in the primary pool, or a later backup
copy,
>that would be fine.  But running contents on the tape won't tell you
that.

>And of course the big issue is WHY are we getting these errors? they
are
>getting scary, as they shouldn't be there at all.  They are not the
result
>of physical I/O errors on any media.




>-Original Message-
>From: Mark Stapleton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 12:49 PM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: Antwort: Re: ANRD with a strange message


>On Mon, 12 Nov 2001 09:53:51 +0100, it was written:
>>RESTORE VOLUME did not fix anything here. We are back at those
>>
>>ANRD ssrecons.c(2342): Actual:   Magic=1C9F3202,
>>SrvId=-61862846, SegGroupId=3512872581838733325,
>>SeqNum=805461472, converted=T.
>>
>>Messages. 

Re: file name length error

[BURDEN,Anthony]

I hope this might help.

After reading Andy's last reply I did some searching (thanks Andy for
your nice reply to my last statement that I made which was wrong on my
part).I found that I was out of date on this info. I run TSM client
versions 3.1.08 and TSM 4.1.12, both of these clients continue to backup
data when a long file name is found, but I got confused because the
3.1.08 client did not handle a directory + filename longer then 259
characters, where with the version you are running and the Ver 4 client
I am running the directory  + filename length is as follows.. But you
must run with USEUNICODEFILENAMES YES, unless you have Mac volumes!!

The maximum length of the file name itself (not including the directory
in which it resides), is 255 characters.
The maximum length of the directory path in which the file resides (not
including the file itself) can not exceed 1,024 characters. The maximum
length of any component within a directory path can not exceed 255
characters "Component" refers to a part of a structure as delimited by
the backslash  \ character.
To illustrate: Given a path of the form x:\comp1\comp2\comp3\
Each component "compx" can not exceed 255 
255 characters in length. Likewise, "filename" can
not exceed 255 characters in length. In addition,
the "x:\comp1\comp2\comp3" can not exceed 1,024 these limits are not
supported.   

anthony

 -Original Message-
From:   Rob Schroeder [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent:   Thursday, 15 November 2001 8:07 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: file name length error

Here is the error I am seeing in my TSM error log for a Win2000 client
running 4.1.3 to a Win2000 server running TSM server 4.1.4.1



11/14/2001 02:51:33 ANS1228E Sending of object
'\\ffdata01\d$\Data\IS\Projects\P2915002 Aldon  ACMS (Phase II)\p2915001
Software Configuration
Management - Acquire and Install Aldon\document\Java classes that didnt
parse\com\famousfootwear\systems\retail\forms\personal\boundary' failed
11/14/2001 02:51:35 ANS4018E Error processing '\\ffdata01\d$': file name
too long
11/14/2001 02:51:35 ANS1512E Scheduled event 'DATA01' failed.  Return
code = 4.

What is the maximum file length name that is supported in TSM?  Also,
according to the messages book,this file should get skipped and the
backup
should continue...however my
backup failed.

Has anyone seen this?


Rob Schroeder
Famous Footwear



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Re: Bad Performance in a SAN Environment

[Orville Lantto]

Your performance is on the low side, but not to far off what Tivoli says is
normal for backups of your type with an LTO.  You have "small" files,
averaging just over 0.5 MB.  TSM cannot process small files fast enough to
keep the LTO streaming.  The tape drive has to stop, back hitch and index
forward to begin writing once data is again available.  LTOs (and DLTs) are
absolutely awful at this.

  Look for my posting 10/8 on this list for my experience.  The title was
"LTOs and TSM, the Real Scoop".

Orville L. Lantto
Datatrend Technologies, Inc.
121 Cheshire Lane #700
Minnetonka, MN 55305




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Hi...

I have the following: AIX 4.3.3. TSM Server 4.2.0 Storage Agent 4.2.0 TSM
Client 4.2.0 TDP for R/3 3.2.0.6, a McData fabric with LTO 3584 4 drives.

Using the B/A Client the results are:

Total number of objects inspected:  427
Total number of objects backed up:  418
Total number of objects updated:  0
Total number of objects rebound:  0
Total number of objects deleted:  0
Total number of objects expired:  0
Total number of objects failed:   0
Total number of bytes transferred:   241.37 MB
Data transfer time:  188.87 sec
Network data transfer rate:1,308.67 KB/sec
Aggregate data transfer rate:  2,125.24 KB/sec
Objects compressed by: 0%
Elapsed processing time:   00:01:56

I have serious performance problems.

What Can I do to improve the performance?

Thanks in Advance

Jorge Rodrmguez
Caracas - Venezuela

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Backup Offsite

[Robert Ouzen]

Hi

I need to run a monthly  Full backup of critical clients offsite. I write a
script of doing that and my question is I need from 20:00 to 08:00  no
distribution of regular backup plan for this night. Can someone now How I
can do it automatically.

T.I.A  Regards

 :-)
Ouzen Robert
Helpdesk Manager
Computing Division
Haifa University
Israel
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