Re: [9fans] Plan9 as an everyday OS
Hi Everybody, This AC97 driver seems to be around for awhile already. Why don't you just include it in the distribution? I suggest to fix the problem you guys found, compile the kernel with it, and add it to the default install CD image. Béla
Re: [9fans] Help needed - Boot Failure...
Hi, If Erik's fix works for Lyle's installation, I suggest that you include it in the distribution. Greetings: Bela (the annoying "include it in the distrib" guy)
Re: [9fans] 9load vs vista, momentus drives
We are going to see your changes in the distribution CD soon, right? (Its strange to find great solutions and fixes in the /contrib section, why are they not included in the regular install CD?) I have a problem with my Plan 9 installation in Bochs. Do you know, why I get "grep: exec header invalid" messages at boot time, and every time I look up a manpage? (I tried to edit rc scripts awhile ago, so it might be my fault, but i cant locate the source of the problem). I dont have access to Freenode here, so I cant go to the channel to ask such questions. thanks in advance: Bela
Re: [9fans] installation on SATYA disk failed
I suggest that you keep the floppy-install option. If Plan 9 is installed, its normally on a virtual machine, or on an older computer somewhere in the garage, often with floppy-drives only. But if its time consuming to support it... - Can you make it automatic? when you create the boot CD, generate the floppy image as a byproduct. - Can you provide a link to an older version of Plan 9 that still supports this option? Just dont make a feature disappear without trace, because the user base is assuming that its there, and you send them a bad message about the reliability of the product.
Re: [9fans] installing from sdC0 or sdC1 CD
I was able to install from sdC1 in the Bochs emulator. If you install and your CD is not sdD0, you get this prompt: Unknown boot device: sdD0!cdboot!9pcflop.gz Boot device: fd0 boot from: If its sdC1 (like in my case), the answer has to be: boot from: sdC1!cdboot!9pcflop.gz More info about the install at http://plan9.bell-labs.com/wiki/plan9/installation_instructions/
[9fans] Announcing the first Hungarian Plan 9 mailing list
Harka Győző at the University of Pécs has just started a new mailing list for the Hungarian fans of Plan 9. We discuss topics about our favorite operating system in our native language. You can join us at: https://omega.ttk.pte.hu/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/9rajong
[9fans] USB HDD connection problem
Hi, I have a problem with connecting USB HDD. When i plug it in, i get this error message: /boot/usbd: /dev/usb/ep5.0: port 8: opendev: can't open endpoint /dev/usb/ep7.0: '/dev/usb' file does not exist I get this after several other tries too, only the ep-number and the port are varied. - usb/disk gives this: usb/disk: /dev/usb: no devs - usbfat: writes: mount: can't open /srv/usb: '/srv/usb' file does not exist cannot mount /srv/usb The USB mouse works. Greetings: Béla
Re: [9fans] USB HDD connection problem
Forgot to mention, I tried to start /boot/usbd manually, i got error messages, it said that the epX.Y and port numbers are busy or something (i dont have the exact error message here, sorry). 2009/8/5 Francisco J Ballesteros : > It seems you dont have usbd running. > > El 05/08/2009, a las 17:51, bval...@gmail.com escribió: > >> Hi, >> >> I have a problem with connecting USB HDD. When i plug it in, i get >> this error message: /boot/usbd: /dev/usb/ep5.0: port 8: opendev: can't >> open endpoint /dev/usb/ep7.0: '/dev/usb' file does not exist >> I get this after several other tries too, only the ep-number and the >> port are varied. >> >> - usb/disk gives this: >> usb/disk: /dev/usb: no devs >> >> - usbfat: writes: >> mount: can't open /srv/usb: '/srv/usb' file does not exist >> cannot mount /srv/usb >> >> The USB mouse works. >> >> Greetings: Béla >> >> [/mail/box/nemo/msgs/200908/45693] > >
Re: [9fans] USB HDD connection problem
There is more: I don't have a usbdisk manpage. '%man usbdisk' complains that its not there, but if i do a '%lookman usbdisk', the manpage is listed as a hit, so it must be in the search index. My 'usb/disk' command doesn't have -f and -l parameters at all. I downloaded the installation ISO file on the 4th of june. Do you know something about it? Both 'usb/usbd' and '/boot/usbd' complain about the same (busy devices), and the rest of the commands simply doesnt find anything in '/dev'. So, I cannot try the example in the (nonexistent) usbdisk manpage, not to mention the nonexistent -f and -l parameters... Can you help me? Greetings: Béla 2009/8/6 Bela Valek : > Forgot to mention, I tried to start /boot/usbd manually, i got error > messages, it said that the epX.Y and port numbers are busy or > something (i dont have the exact error message here, sorry). > > 2009/8/5 Francisco J Ballesteros : >> It seems you dont have usbd running. >> >> El 05/08/2009, a las 17:51, bval...@gmail.com escribió: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I have a problem with connecting USB HDD. When i plug it in, i get >>> this error message: /boot/usbd: /dev/usb/ep5.0: port 8: opendev: can't >>> open endpoint /dev/usb/ep7.0: '/dev/usb' file does not exist >>> I get this after several other tries too, only the ep-number and the >>> port are varied. >>> >>> - usb/disk gives this: >>> usb/disk: /dev/usb: no devs >>> >>> - usbfat: writes: >>> mount: can't open /srv/usb: '/srv/usb' file does not exist >>> cannot mount /srv/usb >>> >>> The USB mouse works. >>> >>> Greetings: Béla >>> >>> [/mail/box/nemo/msgs/200908/45693] >> >> >
Re: [9fans] USB HDD connection problem
- usb/usbd is up and running - the only option in my BIOS is to turn USB off - I am sorry, i dont understand the part about the old and new USB devices and tools. can you explain a bit? Thanks: Béla 2009/8/7 erik quanstrom : > On Fri Aug 7 02:53:14 EDT 2009, bval...@gmail.com wrote: >> There is more: >> >> I don't have a usbdisk manpage. '%man usbdisk' complains that its not >> there, but if i do a '%lookman usbdisk', the manpage is listed as a >> hit, so it must be in the search index. >> > [...] >> >>> >> >>> - usb/disk gives this: >> >>> usb/disk: /dev/usb: no devs >> >>> >> >>> - usbfat: writes: >> >>> mount: can't open /srv/usb: '/srv/usb' file does not exist >> >>> cannot mount /srv/usb >> >>> >> >>> The USB mouse works. > > hmm. if the usb mouse works, yet plan 9 is not running > usb/usbd (have you checked), it may be that your bios has > put your usb in legacy mode and either won't or hasn't been > asked to let go. > > if you are running usbd and usb/kb, then this could happen > if you are mixing #U and tools for #U (the old usb device) > and #u and tools for #u. > > your man page problem sounds like you've damaged your local fs. > consider a pull to update. > > - erik > >
[9fans] manpages broken/outdated
I have checked it on 3 different installations, the 'usbdisk' manpage is missing, on fresh installations too. Its not a filesystem corruption for sure. Most other USB-related manpages still list the nonexistent -f and -l parameters for the 'usb/disk' command. Greetings: Béla
Re: [9fans] manpages broken/outdated
Erik: thank you for helping, I see that the usb(4) manpage is up to date. The old usbdisk(4) manpage had a working example for attaching a FAT filesystem formatted USB hardrive. Can you tell me, where I can find the updated version of this example? Thanks: Béla
Re: [9fans] manpages broken/outdated
Well, then simply running 'usbfat:' is supposed to work, right? I see the warning about the untested drivers in usb(4), so a bug is no surprise i guess... I try to create a proper bugreport with exact hardware specification then. 2009/8/10 erik quanstrom : > On Mon Aug 10 08:30:37 EDT 2009, bval...@gmail.com wrote: >> Erik: thank you for helping, I see that the usb(4) manpage is up to >> date. The old usbdisk(4) manpage had a working example for attaching a >> FAT filesystem formatted USB hardrive. Can you tell me, where I can >> find the updated version of this example? > > see /rc/bin/usbfat: > > - erik > >
[9fans] usbd error message
I managed to reproduce the error in Bochs, the only thing I did was turning on the USB support in the emulator (usb_uhci: enabled=1). Startup: pcirouting: BIOS workaround: PCI.0.1.3 at pin 1 link 96 irq 11 -> 9 #u/usb/ep1.0: uhci: port 0xC020 irq 9 256M memory: 105M kernel data, 151M user, 576M swap usbd...root is from (tcp, local)[local!#S/sdC0/fossil]: The error message: usb/usbd: opendevdata: /dev/usb/ep1.0: '/dev/usb/ep1.0/data' device or object already in use usb/usbd: /dev/usb/ep1.0: '/dev/usb/ep1.0/data' device or object already in use Do you know what happened? Greetings: Béla
Re: [9fans] Plan 9 hg with private repositories
> > Presumably this is because ssh is sshv1 > but bitbucket requires sshv2. > > Russ > Correct me if I am wrong, but an sshv2 server is also providing sshv1 too. Maybe when the Plan 9 ssh client is facing sshv2, instead of shutting down with an error, it should try sshv1, or wait until its offered, i am unsure about the mechanism here. Just an idea, I am really not an expert here. Greetings: Béla
Re: [9fans] usbd error message
Logged in with 'none': none 910:00 0:00 356K Sleepusbd none 920:00 0:00 356K Preadusbd none 930:00 0:00 356K Rendez usbd none 940:00 0:00 356K Rendez usbd Logged in with 'glenda': glenda50:00 0:00 356K Sleepusbd glenda60:00 0:00 356K Preadusbd glenda70:00 0:00 356K Rendez usbd glenda80:00 0:00 356K Rendez usbd Its a default install, nothing was modified. 2009/8/13 Noah Evans : > Are you sure you're not running two usbds? Can send a listing of your > process table? > > On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 11:03 AM, Bela Valek wrote: >> I managed to reproduce the error in Bochs, the only thing I did was >> turning on the USB support in the emulator (usb_uhci: enabled=1). >> >> Startup: >> pcirouting: BIOS workaround: PCI.0.1.3 at pin 1 link 96 irq 11 -> 9 >> #u/usb/ep1.0: uhci: port 0xC020 irq 9 >> 256M memory: 105M kernel data, 151M user, 576M swap >> usbd...root is from (tcp, local)[local!#S/sdC0/fossil]: >> >> The error message: >> usb/usbd: opendevdata: /dev/usb/ep1.0: '/dev/usb/ep1.0/data' device or >> object already in use >> usb/usbd: /dev/usb/ep1.0: '/dev/usb/ep1.0/data' device or object already in >> use >> >> Do you know what happened? >> >> Greetings: Béla >> >> > >
Re: [9fans] usbd error message
First of all, i missed some pids, the total number of usbd processes is 8: glenda50:00 0:00 356K Sleepusbd glenda60:00 0:00 356K Preadusbd glenda70:00 0:00 356K Rendez usbd glenda80:00 0:00 356K Rendez usbd glenda 950:00 0:00 356K Sleepusbd glenda 960:00 0:00 356K Preadusbd glenda 970:00 0:00 356K Rendez usbd glenda 980:00 0:00 356K Rendez usbd processes 5 - 8 give this an output like this: term% echo 'stacks()' | acid -l thread 5 /proc/5/text:386 plan 9 executable /sys/lib/acid/port /sys/lib/acid/386 /sys/lib/acid/thread:1: (error) pushfile: /sys/src/libthread/sched.acid: '/sys/src/libthread/sched.acid' does not exist no symbol information acid: :2: (error) no function stacks acid: echo kill > /proc/5/ctl processes 95 - 98 give this output (missing line: 'no symbol information'): term% echo 'stacks()' | acid -l thread 95 /proc/5/text:386 plan 9 executable /sys/lib/acid/port /sys/lib/acid/386 /sys/lib/acid/thread:1: (error) pushfile: /sys/src/libthread/sched.acid: '/sys/src/libthread/sched.acid' does not exist acid: :2: (error) no function stacks acid: echo kill > /proc/95/ctl Greetings: Béla 2009/8/13 Noah Evans : > Okay, could you run: > > echo 'stacks()' | acid -l thread > > On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 11:44 AM, Bela Valek wrote: >> Logged in with 'none': >> >> none 91 0:00 0:00 356K Sleep usbd >> none 92 0:00 0:00 356K Pread usbd >> none 93 0:00 0:00 356K Rendez usbd >> none 94 0:00 0:00 356K Rendez usbd >> >> Logged in with 'glenda': >> >> glenda 5 0:00 0:00 356K Sleep usbd >> glenda 6 0:00 0:00 356K Pread usbd >> glenda 7 0:00 0:00 356K Rendez usbd >> glenda 8 0:00 0:00 356K Rendez usbd >> >> Its a default install, nothing was modified. >> >> 2009/8/13 Noah Evans : >>> Are you sure you're not running two usbds? Can send a listing of your >>> process table? >>> >>> On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 11:03 AM, Bela Valek wrote: >>>> I managed to reproduce the error in Bochs, the only thing I did was >>>> turning on the USB support in the emulator (usb_uhci: enabled=1). >>>> >>>> Startup: >>>> pcirouting: BIOS workaround: PCI.0.1.3 at pin 1 link 96 irq 11 -> 9 >>>> #u/usb/ep1.0: uhci: port 0xC020 irq 9 >>>> 256M memory: 105M kernel data, 151M user, 576M swap >>>> usbd...root is from (tcp, local)[local!#S/sdC0/fossil]: >>>> >>>> The error message: >>>> usb/usbd: opendevdata: /dev/usb/ep1.0: '/dev/usb/ep1.0/data' device or >>>> object already in use >>>> usb/usbd: /dev/usb/ep1.0: '/dev/usb/ep1.0/data' device or object already >>>> in use >>>> >>>> Do you know what happened? >>>> >>>> Greetings: Béla >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> > >
Re: [9fans] usbd error message
2009/8/13 Noah Evans : > Can you mk all /sys/src/libthread. This is bogging down a bit. Take it > off-list? > I did mk, and i tried the command again, thread 5 has no process information, thread 95 gives this: term% echo 'stacks()' | acid -l thread 95 /proc/95/text:386 plan 9 executable /sys/lib/acid/port /sys/lib/acid/386 /sys/lib/acid/thread acid: p=(Proc)0x38988pid 95 Running t=(Thread)0x39328Running/sys/src/cmd/usb/usbd/usbd.c:585 work sleep()+0x7 /sys/src/libc/9syscall/sleep.s:5 work(a=0x38948)+0x12c /sys/src/cmd/usb/usbd/usbd.c:585 launcher386(arg=0x38948,f=0x2b0d)+0x10 /sys/src/libthread/386.c:10 0xfefefefe ?file?:0 p=(Proc)0x52c88pid 96 Running t=(Thread)0x53628Running/sys/src/cmd/usb/lib/fs.c:592 usbfs pread()+0x7 /sys/src/libc/9syscall/pread.s:5 read(fd=0x5,buf=0x4efc4,n=0x4)+0x2f /sys/src/libc/9sys/read.c:7 readn(n=0x4,av=0x4efc4,f=0x5)+0x3a /sys/src/libc/port/readn.c:13 read9pmsg(abuf=0x4efc4,fd=0x5,n=0x2080)+0x24 /sys/src/libc/9sys/read9pmsg.c:14 usbfs()+0x100 /sys/src/cmd/usb/lib/fs.c:592 launcher386(arg=0x0,f=0xadd0)+0x10 /sys/src/libthread/386.c:10 0xfefefefe ?file?:0 t=(Thread)0x53748Rendez /sys/src/cmd/usb/lib/fs.c:119 schedproc alt(alts=0x49950)+0x12a /sys/src/libthread/channel.c:140 schedproc()+0xbe /sys/src/cmd/usb/lib/fs.c:119 launcher386(arg=0x0,f=0x9bb2)+0x10 /sys/src/libthread/386.c:10 0xfefefefe ?file?:0 p=(Proc)0x499d8pid 97 Sched t=(Thread)0x537e8Rendez /sys/src/cmd/usb/lib/fs.c:546 outproc recvp(c=0x38948)+0x2c /sys/src/libthread/channel.c:270 outproc()+0x2f /sys/src/cmd/usb/lib/fs.c:546 launcher386(arg=0x0,f=0xac11)+0x10 /sys/src/libthread/386.c:10 0xfefefefe ?file?:0 p=(Proc)0x4e398pid 98 Sched t=(Thread)0x53928Rendez /sys/src/cmd/usb/lib/fs.c:342 fsioproc recvp(c=0x538e8)+0x2c /sys/src/libthread/channel.c:270 fsioproc(a=0x538e8)+0x51 /sys/src/cmd/usb/lib/fs.c:342 launcher386(arg=0x538e8,f=0xa440)+0x10 /sys/src/libthread/386.c:10 0xfefefefe ?file?:0 acid: echo kill > /proc/98/ctl echo kill > /proc/97/ctl echo kill > /proc/96/ctl echo kill > /proc/95/ctl
Re: [9fans] usbd error message
Its a default install, i didnt modify it. 2009/8/13 erik quanstrom : > On Thu Aug 13 06:25:14 EDT 2009, bval...@gmail.com wrote: >> First of all, i missed some pids, the total number of usbd processes is 8: >> >> glenda 5 0:00 0:00 356K Sleep usbd >> glenda 6 0:00 0:00 356K Pread usbd >> glenda 7 0:00 0:00 356K Rendez usbd >> glenda 8 0:00 0:00 356K Rendez usbd >> glenda 95 0:00 0:00 356K Sleep usbd >> glenda 96 0:00 0:00 356K Pread usbd >> glenda 97 0:00 0:00 356K Rendez usbd >> glenda 98 0:00 0:00 356K Rendez usbd > > looks like the problem is that you're starting usbd twice. > perhaps in or from cpurc or termrc? > > - erik > >
Re: [9fans] usbd error message
2009/8/13 Noah Evans : > Can you reboot the machine and then pastebin the full transcript of > what happens from boot to your usbd error? AFAIK you shouldn't have > two instances of usbd running. > Its very short, the error message comes early: Plan 9 E820: 0009f000 memory E820: 0009f000 000a reserved E820: 000e8000 0010 reserved E820: 0010 0fff memory E820: 0fff 1000 acpi reclaim E820: fffc 1 reserved 126 holes free 00019000 0009f000 548864 0040e000 0687f000 105320448 105869312 bytes free cpu0: 50MHz GenuineIntel PentiumIV/Xeon (cpuid: AX 0x0F20 DX 0x78BFBFF) ELCR: 0A00 pcirouting: BIOS workaround: PCI.0.1.3 at pin 1 link 96 irq 11 -> 9 #u/usb/ep1.0: uhci: port 0xC020 irq 9 256M memory: 105M kernel data, 151M user, 576M swap usbd...root is from (tcp, local)[local!#S/sdC0/fossil]: user[none]: glenda time... fossil(#S/sdC0/fossil)...version...time... init: starting /bin/rc grep: exec header invalid grep: exec header invalid grep: exec header invalid usb/usbd: opendevdata: /dev/usb/ep1.0: '/dev/usb/ep1.0/data' device or object already in use usb/usbd: /dev/usb/ep1.0: '/dev/usb/ep1.0/data' device or object already in use
Re: [9fans] usbd error message
2009/8/13 Noah Evans : > Can add 'flag x +' to /rc/bin/usbstart and /rc/bin/termrc and post > that output? I think I know your problem now. Also could you: > echo | grep -s hello; echo $status > > My guess is that somehow your grep is borked and: > > if (! ps | grep -s ' usbd$') > usb/usbd > is succeeding in /rc/bin/usbstart > term% echo | grep -s hello; echo $status grep: exec header invalid |rc 220: can't exec: exec header invalid I wonder, what did I temper with, on two different installations. I just tried a clean install, the error message is not there, and ps show only 4 usbd threads.
Re: [9fans] USB HDD connection problem
I tried a recent distribution image (Aug15). The live CD worked with my external harddrive, after plugging it in i issued 'usbfat:', and i was able to read and write files on it. When I installed it, 'usbfat:' said that there are no usb disks. usbd was running (5 threads), I will try ls '#u' when i have access to the machine. 2009/8/19 Francisco J Ballesteros : > there has been an update on usb software recently. > the old kernel driver was called #U, the new one is #u. > Tools like usb/usbd and usb/disk changed as well. > > Do you still have the problem? > I'm just reading the mail thread and don't understand why > /srv/usb is not there. It should. > > can you ls '#u' ? > Do you have usbd running? > > Sorry, just came and I might be missing some eairlier mail. > I'm still reading them all. > > On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 1:08 PM, Bela Valek wrote: >> - usb/usbd is up and running >> - the only option in my BIOS is to turn USB off >> - I am sorry, i dont understand the part about the old and new USB >> devices and tools. can you explain a bit? >> >> Thanks: Béla >> >> 2009/8/7 erik quanstrom : >>> On Fri Aug 7 02:53:14 EDT 2009, bval...@gmail.com wrote: >>>> There is more: >>>> >>>> I don't have a usbdisk manpage. '%man usbdisk' complains that its not >>>> there, but if i do a '%lookman usbdisk', the manpage is listed as a >>>> hit, so it must be in the search index. >>>> >>> [...] >>>> >>> >>>> >>> - usb/disk gives this: >>>> >>> usb/disk: /dev/usb: no devs >>>> >>> >>>> >>> - usbfat: writes: >>>> >>> mount: can't open /srv/usb: '/srv/usb' file does not exist >>>> >>> cannot mount /srv/usb >>>> >>> >>>> >>> The USB mouse works. >>> >>> hmm. if the usb mouse works, yet plan 9 is not running >>> usb/usbd (have you checked), it may be that your bios has >>> put your usb in legacy mode and either won't or hasn't been >>> asked to let go. >>> >>> if you are running usbd and usb/kb, then this could happen >>> if you are mixing #U and tools for #U (the old usb device) >>> and #u and tools for #u. >>> >>> your man page problem sounds like you've damaged your local fs. >>> consider a pull to update. >>> >>> - erik >>> >>> >> >> > >
[9fans] Acer with 9atom.iso: out of physical memory
Hi Everybody, I try to install our favourite operating system on an Acer emachines E525 laptop. Installation succeeded with Erik's 9atom.iso, but I cannot boot. Here is the whole story: - 1. Plan 9 install CD (of Aug. 15): PBS1... Plan 9 from Bell Labs ELCR: 0C00 pcirouting: South Bridge 8086, 2919 not found ...nd hangup both in IDE and AHCI mode. not even Ctrl+Alt+Del works. I suspect the buggy BIOS, but both Ubuntu 9.04 and WinXP worked (the latter only in IDE mode). - 2. Erik's 9atom.iso (of Aug. 16 22:13 PM) in IDE mode: PBS1... Plan 9 from Bell Labs ELCR: 0C00 sdata: blind probe 1f0 sdata: blind probe 170 aoepnp(nil) found 54 e820 entries Boot devices: fd0 boot from: ...nd nothing is accepted, CD is probably not recognized (I tried the usual combinations). - 3. Erik's 9atom.iso in AHCI mode works! hard drive is sdE0, CD is sdE1, bad process or channel control request: "dma on", touchpad is ps2 mouse, vga works with 1024x768x32, installation successful. -4. trying to boot, after I log in as glenda, fossil says repeatedly: out of physical memory, no swap configured RAM is 2 GB, partition is 2 GB, i selected fossil only, i accepted the default in prepdisk (i admit, i didnt look at it carefully, but it was never a problem before). Any suggestions? Greetings: Béla
Re: [9fans] Acer with 9atom.iso: out of physical memory
> > i'll take a look at this. looks like a bug. the number of e820 > entries is also curious. > when its already installed, the system says at boot time: found 1 e820 entries > > what does /dev/swap say? > > - erik > I checked with disk/prep in live CD mode, 9fat = 100 MB, nvram = 512 B, fossil = 1.44 GB, swap = 370.63 MB fossil reports 'out of physical memory' immediatelly when its mounting the partition. I cant get to take a look at /dev/swap. Thanks for helping: Béla
Re: [9fans] Acer with 9atom.iso: out of physical memory
2009/8/26 erik quanstrom : >> fossil reports 'out of physical memory' immediatelly when its mounting >> the partition. I cant get to take a look at /dev/swap. > > can you use the boot cd to modify plan9.ini to set > *e820print=1 > ? > > - erik > > I tried it, nothing changed
Re: [9fans] Acer with 9atom.iso: out of physical memory
> > it wasn't expected that anything would change. > i was interested in the e820 output. if you > would send that along, that would be helpful. > > - erik > > Oh, sorry. The install disk wrote '54 e820', the installed system already writes '1 e820' without this line added.
[9fans] plan9.iso and 9atom.iso fail on SATA & IDE system
Hi, The test subject is a desktop PC, it has SATA primary harddrive and IDE master optical drive (according to the BIOS). I tried to install with the regular CD (Aug. 15), it detected the SATA harddrive only. I also tried Erik's 9atom.iso, it detected the IDE drive only, so it booted the Live CD only. It reported 47 e820 entries during boot. (i try to get access to the other test subject too, so i can post its error messages. the problem is, that its not in my possession) Greetings: Béla
Re: [9fans] plan9.iso and 9atom.iso fail on SATA & IDE system
2009/9/2 erik quanstrom : > > what date 9atom.iso? the latest is from aug 26. it detects > more hardware. > > could you send me the output of pci or lspci -nv or whatever > offlist? > > - erik > > I sent you the lspci -nv output private. The 9atom.iso is the latest (Aug. 26). Thank you for your help. Greetings: Béla
[9fans] SiS 6326 AGP problem
Hi all, I have problem with a SiS 6326 AGP type video card. The screen is "dirty" at every resolution, including x...@640x480x8 and v...@640x480x8. Its no fun without graphics, if there is a workaround, please help. Thanks: Bela
Re: [9fans] Shall we fix the use of Up/Dn arrows?
I agree, but only because PgDown and PgUp do the same as the Down and Up arrows. Having two pairs of keys doing the same thing on the keyboard is a waste. On the other hand, I found it easy to get used to the Plan 9 approach. Its comfortable for me either way, I only think that this modification would add a new functionality to the interface. 2010/1/23 Yi DAI : > Hi, > > I am new to Plan9. This request sounds quite simple/naive. Don't think that > I dislike the Plan9 ways. I enjoy it a lot. But it doesn't mean that it > needs no improvement/fix, right? > OK, here is my suggestion. We shall fix the use of Up/Dn arrows, I mean, > instead of using it to go one page up/dn, use it to move the cursor up/dn > one line. Here are two reasons for this: > 1. We use Lf/Rt arrows to move the cursor, don't we? Then use Up/Dn to do > the same kind of task is symmetric, and thus more reasonable. > 2. We already have PageUp/PageDown keys which do the task of paging up/dn, > and symmetrically, Home/End to move to the first and last page. > > EOT > > > -- > DAY >
Re: [9fans] contrib/gui
Great tool, I just downloaded and tried it. I found a bug: if you click at the 'Info' menu item before you select any items, it dies. 2010/2/2 Federico G. Benavento : > after talking about it for some time > I got tired of talking and wrote a simple > gui installer for contrib > so if you pull contrib, you'll get a contrib/gui > > here's a shot: > http://lab-fgb.com/contrib.png > > ah, the code is not the best, but > it gets the job done > > -- > Federico G. Benavento > >
[9fans] pppoe on Plan 9
Hi, How do we use pppoe on Plan 9? Its listening on stdin and answering on stdout. How do I have to start it, so its listening to the network interface? I have new internet probider unsing pppoe lannet, and I need help to set up Plan 9 for it (i dont even know the right questions to ask) Thanks: Bela
Re: [9fans] pppoe on Plan 9
Thanks. I got a username, a password, and an IP address from the Internet provider. How do I give this information to ip/pppoe? If I have to use Factotum, my question is: how do I give the username and password to Factotum, so PPPoE can use it? Thanks: Bela 2010/2/20 Russ Cox : >> How do we use pppoe on Plan 9? Its listening on stdin and answering on >> stdout. How do I have to start it, so its listening to the network >> interface? > > It sounds like you are running ip/ppp not ip/pppoe. > See ppp(8). > > Russ > >
Re: [9fans] pppoe on Plan 9
2010/2/22 Russ Cox : >> I got a username, a password, and an IP address from the Internet >> provider. How do I give this information to ip/pppoe? > > It should just prompt you (via factotum) for the username/password. > The IP address should be irrelevant - the ppp server > will tell you the IP address anyway. > > Russ > > thank you. well, it doesnt prompt, somebody can help and tell me why? this is the output (actually its repeated 6 times before giving up): term% ip/pppoe -d -> type 0x8863 vers 1 type 1 code 0x9 sessid 0x0 length 4 0x101 0: service '' 00508d68c9c0 -> type 0x8863 vers 1 type 1 code 0x9 sessid 0x0 length 4 0x101 0: service '' dropping unwanted pkt: not an offer 00304894958d -> 00508d68c9c0 type 0x8863 vers 1 type 1 code 0x7 sessid 0x0 length 63 0x102 22: ac 'pecs-nas1.tvnetwork.hu' 0x101 9: service 'TvNetWork' 0x104 20: ac cookie 31e0aff8b09a633faae5b9685fdfbd0dad00 dropping unwanted pkt: no matching service name ip/pppoe: could not establish session term%
Re: [9fans] pppoe on Plan 9
Thanks, after I provided the service name, ip/pppoe asked for username
and password. However I still didnt have Internet access. I tried
ipconf/outside but it times out. Here is the complete output of
ip/pppoe:
http://pastebin.com/V7ACsh6g
Did I forgot something?
Thanks: Bela
2010/2/23 Russ Cox :
>> 00304894958d -> 00508d68c9c0 type 0x8863
>> vers 1 type 1 code 0x7 sessid 0x0 length 63
>> 0x102 22: ac 'pecs-nas1.tvnetwork.hu'
>> 0x101 9: service 'TvNetWork'
>> 0x104 20: ac cookie 31e0aff8b09a633faae5b9685fdfbd0dad00
>> dropping unwanted pkt: no matching service name
>
> try adding
> -S TvNetWork
> to your command line.
>
> it looks like in pppoe.c the block
>
> if((s = findtag(pkt, TagSrvName, &len, 0)) == nil)
> return bad("no matching service name");
> if(len != strlen(srvname) || memcmp(s, srvname, len) != 0)
> return bad("no matching service name");
>
> should be inside a if(srvname[0] != '\0') { ... }.
>
>
[9fans] unrecognized ethernet card
Hi Everybody, I installed Plan 9 on a new computer (Erik's 9atoms.iso), it doesnt recognize the ethernet device (there is no /net/ether0). I wonder if something can be done. If changing configuration doesnt help, I hope its similar enough to an already supported device, so a few changes here and there can make it work. By the way, I was also wondering, when will Erik's SATA support arrive in the main distribution? Anyway, here are the details of the unrecognized device, from Linux: - lshw says: *-bridge description: Ethernet interface product: MCP61 Ethernet vendor: nVidia Corporation physical id: 7 bus info: p...@:00:07.0 logical name: eth0 version: a2 serial: 00:1d:92:0b:b5:23 size: 1 capacity: 1 width: 32 bits clock: 66MHz capabilities: bridge pm msi ht bus_master cap_list ethernet physical mii 10bt 10bt-fd 100bt 100bt-fd autonegotiation configuration: autonegotiation=on broadcast=yes driver=forcedeth driverversion=0.64 duplex=full latency=0 link=yes maxlatency=20 mingnt=1 multicast=yes port=MII speed=100MB/s resources: irq:27 memory:dfff9000-dfff9fff ioport:e480(size=8) - lspci says: 00:07.0 Bridge: nVidia Corporation MCP61 Ethernet (rev a2) Subsystem: Micro-Star International Co., Ltd. Device 7309 Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- DisINTx+ Status: Cap+ 66MHz+ UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=fast >TAbort- SERR-
[9fans] out of physical memory; no swap configured
Hi, I used Erik's 9atoms.iso to install Plan 9. When its booting, after its asking for root partition and username, I get the error message repeated: "out of physical memory; no swap configured". Why, oh why? I use fossil without venti, on a 2GB partition, the RAM is also 2 GB. I found the message in http://plan9.bell-labs.com/sources/plan9/sys/src/9/port/swap.c - static void pager(void *junk). Greetings: Béla
Re: [9fans] out of physical memory; no swap configured
2010/3/12 erik quanstrom : >> How do other operating systems detect the available RAM? Could Plan 9 >> use the same method? > > plan 9 uses the same methods for detecting ram > everyone else does. perhaps we trust bios too much, > but 8mb isn't impossible, either. > > try > a *noe820scan=1 > at the 9load menu prompt. > > - erik > > Hi, I tried it and didnt work, I got the same output. Maybe its time to trust BIOS less... :( Greetings: Bela
Re: [9fans] iwp9 video?
There are actual Hungarians on this mailing list, I am sure that we can be of assistance :) On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 4:41 PM, wrote: > can they do hungarian subtitles? > > -- > cinap > > > -- Forwarded message -- > From: Eric Van Hensbergen > To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net> > Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2010 09:12:01 -0500 > Subject: Re: [9fans] iwp9 video? > On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 6:34 AM, roger peppe wrote: >> yeah, youtube (or better, vimeo) would be great. >> livestream is very glitchy from here too. >> (although it was fun when it did work live...) >> > > youtube would be a pain as the videos have to be sliced and diced to > match 10 minutes. Not sure if vimeo has similar restrictions. > Honestly I won't have much time for editing. I'm gonna rip the tapes > to some compressed format and post them. If folks want to edit, post > to other sites, etc. -- more power to them. I'll do my best to rip > this week, its off of tape, so that's 7 hours and I've got more travel > this week, but I'll post whatever I rip. In the interim, you can try > downloading the stream from livestream -- there should be in an option > with the Video-on-Demand stuff. > > -eric > >
