[9fans] USB UK keyboard problem, correct fix?
Hi, I have a shiny new UK usb keyboard but am unable to use it as one of the keys cannot be mapped using kbmap (|\); I'am typing this on a grubby old ps2 keyboard. The key in question seems to generate 0x0e 0x56 on keydown and 0x0e 0xd6 on keyup. This appears to be exactly this problem: http://9fans.net/archive/2013/04/368 I could do a similar hack but has anyone any feelings for how this should be fixed properly? -Steve
Re: [9fans] 9n
I am just wondering, does the "new Plan9 secret society" approve of the release of code ? On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 11:19 PM, Francisco J Ballesteros wrote: > > On Jun 6, 2013, at 7:40 PM, Francisco J Ballesteros wrote: > >> concat >> us > > Since concat'ing us may be disgusting, I should have written "contact us". > sorry. > >
Re: [9fans] 9n
It's a modified stock kernel, no need to ask because I made the changes directly there. ;) Now seriously..., no plan 9 secret society has ever been actually secret and hiding code, as far as I know, that is. The only times I saw someone was keeping code without publishing it was because the code was not considered to be ready enough for others to try. Don't know if I should add more ":)"s, well... hth On Jun 17, 2013, at 6:29 PM, Jiten Pathy wrote: > I am just wondering, does the "new Plan9 secret society" approve of > the release of code ? > > On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 11:19 PM, Francisco J Ballesteros > wrote: >> >> On Jun 6, 2013, at 7:40 PM, Francisco J Ballesteros wrote: >> >>> concat >>> us >> >> Since concat'ing us may be disgusting, I should have written "contact us". >> sorry. >> >>
Re: [9fans] 9n
> Now seriously..., no plan 9 secret society has ever been actually secret and > hiding code, > as far as I know, that is. The only times I saw someone was keeping code > without publishing > it was because the code was not considered to be ready enough for others to > try. a lot of effort has gone into making code public. - erik
Re: [9fans] 9n
That was all I was trying to say, in a single and precise sentence. I should learn english at some point… On Jun 17, 2013, at 6:41 PM, erik quanstrom wrote: > a lot of effort has gone into making code public.
Re: [9fans] 9n
On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 12:41:27PM -0400, erik quanstrom wrote: > > Now seriously..., no plan 9 secret society has ever been actually secret > > and hiding code, > > as far as I know, that is. The only times I saw someone was keeping code > > without publishing > > it was because the code was not considered to be ready enough for others to > > try. > > a lot of effort has gone into making code public. > > - erik > It works better when a lot of code goes into making code public. khm
Re: [9fans] 9n
> a lot of effort has gone into making code public. But it would be zero effort if code wouldn't be secret in the first place. -- Aram Hăvărneanu
Re: [9fans] 9n
On Mon Jun 17 12:55:25 EDT 2013, ara...@mgk.ro wrote: > > a lot of effort has gone into making code public. > > But it would be zero effort if code wouldn't be secret in the first place. and usually one gets pissed on for going to the effort. - erik
Re: [9fans] 9n
On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 11:01 AM, erik quanstrom wrote: > On Mon Jun 17 12:55:25 EDT 2013, ara...@mgk.ro wrote: >> > a lot of effort has gone into making code public. >> >> But it would be zero effort if code wouldn't be secret in the first place. > > and usually one gets pissed on for going to the effort. > now we know why this society may exist after all... those who do something actually get pissed on. why bother even telling the masses when they know what to expect in return.
Re: [9fans] 9n
Thanks for clearing that up. I haven't looked at the code, but the changes in the paper looked interesting. On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 10:07 PM, Nemo wrote: > It's a modified stock kernel, no need to ask because I made the changes > directly there. ;) > > Now seriously..., no plan 9 secret society has ever been actually secret and > hiding code, > as far as I know, that is. The only times I saw someone was keeping code > without publishing > it was because the code was not considered to be ready enough for others to > try. > > Don't know if I should add more ":)"s, well... > > hth > > On Jun 17, 2013, at 6:29 PM, Jiten Pathy wrote: > >> I am just wondering, does the "new Plan9 secret society" approve of >> the release of code ? >> >> On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 11:19 PM, Francisco J Ballesteros >> wrote: >>> >>> On Jun 6, 2013, at 7:40 PM, Francisco J Ballesteros wrote: >>> concat us >>> >>> Since concat'ing us may be disgusting, I should have written "contact us". >>> sorry. >>> >>> > >
Re: [9fans] 9n
On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 02:01:08PM -0400, erik quanstrom wrote: > On Mon Jun 17 12:55:25 EDT 2013, ara...@mgk.ro wrote: > > > a lot of effort has gone into making code public. > > > > But it would be zero effort if code wouldn't be secret in the first place. There is code that is neither secret nor published. Code that does "the" or "some" job for the writer but that the writer does not want to maintain (for a public audience). I have the example for kerTeX: I use RISK, my own framework, that is not a precious proprietary code with lots of cutting edge and research features, but simply something that does the job for me and that I didn't want to support for others. It went publkic by side effect (and the support will be limited to kerTeX use). -- Thierry Laronde http://www.kergis.com/ Key fingerprint = 0FF7 E906 FBAF FE95 FD89 250D 52B1 AE95 6006 F40C
Re: [9fans] 9n
On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 08:20:56PM +0200, tlaro...@polynum.com wrote: > > There is code that is neither secret nor published. Code that does "the" > or "some" job for the writer but that the writer does not want to > maintain (for a public audience). There is no Hague Convention specification that you must maintain code just because you let other people see it. Don Knuth springs to mind as someone who is capable of releasing software and not regarding this as some kind of Hemingwayan Albatross. It is annoying to have to replicate work someone else has done merely because they lack the spine to release it. khm
Re: [9fans] 9n
You should ask if anyone else did that before doing it, instead of saying they are un-spined life forms. Don't you have a tricorder? On Jun 17, 2013, at 8:40 PM, Kurt H Maier wrote: > It is annoying to have to replicate work someone else has done merely > because they lack the spine to release it.
Re: [9fans] 9n
all i see from you are pronouncements. show us your code. On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 11:40 AM, Kurt H Maier wrote: > On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 08:20:56PM +0200, tlaro...@polynum.com wrote: > > > > There is code that is neither secret nor published. Code that does "the" > > or "some" job for the writer but that the writer does not want to > > maintain (for a public audience). > > > There is no Hague Convention specification that you must maintain code > just because you let other people see it. Don Knuth springs to mind as > someone who is capable of releasing software and not regarding this as > some kind of Hemingwayan Albatross. > > It is annoying to have to replicate work someone else has done merely > because they lack the spine to release it. > > khm > >
Re: [9fans] 9n
> all i see from you are pronouncements. show us your code. That's how this all started. -sl
Re: [9fans] Win starting rc?
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On 6/11/13 1218, marius eriksen wrote:
> On Jun 11, 2013, at 4:09 PM, Brian Vito
> wrote:
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>> Is there a way to have Acme's Win command start an rc session
>> rather than bash? Also, is it possible to set the bash prompt to
>> PS1=": {\w} %; " if bash is started by Win? Thanks again.
>
> export SHELL=rc
>
> For the latter, you might find it useful to make PS1 conditional on
> $TERM.
>
This is what I use in my dotfiles to turn off the "fancy term" stuff
for use in Win/9term.
https://github.com/goozbach/dot_files/blob/master/_profile.d/95-plan9.sh
It undoes my colorful terminal prompt; re-aliases git, tree, lc, and
grep to remove color and make more 9term/plumber friendly; and
overrides the cd command to update acme's working directory.
There are probably a couple of additional things I could make it do
but I've not yet ran into other issues.
BTW I'm still using BASH as my $SHELL, I should go 'whole hog' and try
rc, but baby steps... baby steps...
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Derek
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Re: [9fans] 9n
On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 12:15:54PM -0700, Skip Tavakkolian wrote: > all i see from you are pronouncements. show us your code. > I'm not a programmer; however, we here at 9front Technologies have deeveloped a new development paradigm we call "trust-based egalitarian avocational modular wide-area outscaled refactoring kultur" -- abbreviated T.E.A.M.W.O.R.K. You can see the results of this new methodology at http://code.google.com/p/plan9front/source/list khm
Re: [9fans] 9n
> now we know why this society may exist after all... those who do > something actually get pissed on. why bother even telling the masses > when they know what to expect in return. why bother? because the whining is not important to me, but plan 9 is. so there can be some trollish commentary. i can't think of any group with more than a trivial number of folks, where everyone was equally pleasant, all the time. as a general rule, we do not know everone's constraints, of time legal agreement, one's personal feelings about what is worthy to be released, etc. so it can be presumptious to say one simply lacks "spine" for not releasing code. i do understand the frustration. there are things i would like to have access to. but when i balance this with the idea that there may be good reasons why it is impossible, and the idea that other folks are independent agents, who owe me nothing, i realize i can't reasonably complain. - erik
