[TLS] TLS against censorship

2024-11-14 Thread evasilen
Hi Experts, I am not a strong person on encryption, but it is evident for me that "TLS Encrypted Hello" https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-tls-esni-22 has no value in fighting censorship. Whatever DNS name would be used for "client-facing server", it is easy for a particular country

[TLS] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: DTLS 1.3 bis

2024-11-14 Thread Joseph Salowey
Hi Folks, There are a few instances of messages that we are trying to avoid on this thread. We have contacted the posters, but we would like to remind folks to try to keep the discussion civil and not send messages that are trying to incite a combative response or messages that are singling out pa

[TLS] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: DTLS 1.3 bis

2024-11-14 Thread David Adrian
> You mean "Google is putting massive amounts of pressure on people to try and make sure that DTLS loses to QUIC" Ah yes, that is why a Googler is actively implementing DTLS 1.3, spurring this entire thread. To meet the “DTLS loses to QUIC” OKR. On Wed, Nov 13, 2024 at 9:06 PM Peter Gutmann wrot