Re: [RBW] Re: Style on the bike

Gosh, Danielle, I am so sorry to hear about you being hit by a car. So, so sorry. I would have never thought about wooden shoes but wow, I can see how they would have protected your foot. Were you hit on the Cheviot? And its still in working order? I was also wondering about the peg and fold beca

[RBW] WTB 650b Dynamo Wheel

I'm in the market for a 650b dynamo wheel. In a perfect world, it'd be silver Atlas rim w/ a silver hub (Kasei, PV-8, SV-8, SON). I realize the world is rarely perfect, so I'm interested in any quality hub & decent rim combo, but would likely not go for a black rim/black hub combo. If you have

Re: [RBW] Re: Style on the bike

I'm firmly Gen X and we 100% were doing pegged pant legs in the 80's. Hip to do with a pair of Bugle Boys. 90's fashion is OK to make a comeback but 80's is not. Let's leave that were it was. :) On Monday, September 11, 2023 at 5:31:15 AM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote: >  > Gosh, Dani

Re: [RBW] Re: upright bars: how does shorter or longer stem affect steering?

More specifically Eddie, I don't think using a bar like the Billie on a Roadini is a good idea to begin with if you find yourself wanting to move forward for a more stable steering experience. You be much better of with a shallow drop bar. Personally, I don't think having high bars lives up to

Re: [RBW] Re: Style on the bike

*where. Man do I hate that there is no edit functionality On Monday, September 11, 2023 at 8:17:31 AM UTC-4 Johnny Alien wrote: > I'm firmly Gen X and we 100% were doing pegged pant legs in the 80's. Hip > to do with a pair of Bugle Boys. 90's fashion is OK to make a comeback but > 80's is not.

Re: [RBW] Re: upright bars: how does shorter or longer stem affect steering?

I need my bars quite high cuz I'm old and my neck aches badly when my head is hanging over drop bars. I have considered tall stem and drop bars. I guess that would mean shorter top-tubed bike in order to make the reach to the hoods on drop bars comfortable. On Monday, September 11, 2023 at 5:17

Re: [RBW] Re: upright bars: how does shorter or longer stem affect steering?

Eddie, When I first rode a Clem with Bosco bars it was so different from drop bars below the saddle level that steering seemed odd. It took a few rides to settle in to the upright position and having the bars above the saddle and coming back toward me, if that makes sense. Like you though I was

Re: [RBW] Re: upright bars: how does shorter or longer stem affect steering?

I have never tried really high-mounted drop bars like these ones: http://lovelybike.blogspot.com/2010/05/drop-bar-diaries.html And for me that would be mostly about the aesthetics. Swept back bars look cooler and less weird that high-mounted drop bars. I wonder if the steering would "seem" signi

Re: [RBW] Re: Style on the bike

Johnny, fellow Gex Xer here. 80s fashion was something to behold indeed! I must say that I do miss my black Members Only jacket and wish I still had it. I'll leave the denim jean jacket in the past though along with the mullet haircut. Doug On Monday, September 11, 2023 at 8:18:12 AM UTC-4 John

Re: [RBW] Re: upright bars: how does shorter or longer stem affect steering?

Hello Doug, I have been riding Billie bars on three bikes for nearly two years. I can do just fine but still notice I am less steady when my hands are on the grips while descending at speed. Could be that I am so upright that my center of gravity compared to drop bars is making things a less st

Re: [RBW] Re: upright bars: how does shorter or longer stem affect steering?

I do wonder if the long wheelbase makes my Clem more stable in general. I hope you find the right setup for your bike. Doug On Mon, Sep 11, 2023 at 8:41 AM eddietheflay wrote: > Hello Doug, I have been riding Billie bars on three bikes for nearly two > years. I can do just fine but still notice

Re: [RBW] Re: upright bars: how does shorter or longer stem affect steering?

Doug, my guess is that headtube angle and trail on the Clem probably adds to steadier steering. Riv does not seem to publish trail numbers but as I understand it trail is key to steering characteristics. On Monday, September 11, 2023 at 5:47:46 AM UTC-7 Doug H. wrote: > I do wonder if the long

Re: [RBW] Re: upright bars: how does shorter or longer stem affect steering?

Precisely.Sent from my iPhoneOn Sep 10, 2023, at 9:43 PM, Joe Bernard wrote:Garth opens up another can of worms with perception. Am I aware that there's a smidge of tiller effect on my custom and significantly more on Cheap Old Hybrid? Yes. Do I actually perceive this on rides? Nope. I like the b

[RBW] FS: Secuzed Plus Dyno Tail light

Hello all, I have a Secuzed plus dyno tail light FENDER mount that I don't need. $30 shipped. https://photos.app.goo.gl/GjcemZL92qoCaJop8 I mounted this on a bike last year and I don't think I ever rode it. It shows no sign of ever leaving my house. I wasn't pleased with the wiring route

Re: [RBW] Re: upright bars: how does shorter or longer stem affect steering?

Eddie, your initial post asking " how does shorter or longer stem effect steering?" has generated a a lot of interesting discussion about steering dynamics - but it seems that what you really want to get at is which size Roadini will work best for you with upright bars. You might start by taki

[RBW] Tiller effect: could someone please explain?

Hi, I have been really interested in the discussion on the thread "upright bars: how does shorter or longer stem affect steering " that eddietheflay initiated. Joe mentioned the *"tiller effect,"* which is a new term to me. I looked it

Re: [RBW] Re: Babies on bikes

I've had my little dude on the back of the bike since he was 1. He loves it. First I used my Sam but now I use my Karate Monkey. Its better for the job. On Tuesday, September 5, 2023 at 1:19:46 PM UTC-4 ber...@bernardduhon.com wrote: > Burley recommends 20 months for their child trailer that’s

[RBW] Re: upright bars: how does shorter or longer stem affect steering?

On Sunday, September 10, 2023 at 4:59:17 PM UTC-4 eddietheflay wrote: My current bike has Billie bars installed on a very tall adjustable stem. Effective top tube on this bike is 59.5cm. Reach to both the rear portion at the grips and front portion at the curves seems quite comfortable. But wh

[RBW] Re: FS: MB-2 frame, 26" dynamo wheels, RH tires, saddles, pedals, Suntour, Crust bars

A few things remaining: 1985 Bridgestone MB-2 frame, fork and headset — $300 Rene Herse Rat Trap Pass extralight (26 x 2.3) — $75 Problem Solvers Travel Agents (pair) — $25 Kool Stop Eagle 2 smooth post pads, one bikesworth — $15 On Friday, September 8, 2023 at 2:20:36 PM UTC-4 Eric Mart

[RBW] Re: upright bars: how does shorter or longer stem affect steering?

Eddie, for what it's worth: when I bought an old Atlantis (that has the much more compact size and geometry than current Atlantis models) it had a Noodle drop bar on a medium length stem — a pretty standard Rivendell build. I couldn't ride it for more than a few miles without experiencing terri

Re: [RBW] Re: upright bars: how does shorter or longer stem affect steering?

In your original post you refer to your "current bike" with Billie bars. Is that the Curtlo that you are selling over on the iBob list? If so, for the benefit of the commenters, you said that Curtlo was designed to emulate a Rambouillet. I've got two comments: First, I'm not crazy about y

[RBW] Re: Tiller effect: could someone please explain?

Hi Jim, Maybe this blog post can help? https://crosscountrycycle.wordpress.com/2015/06/06/tiller-effect/ Good luck! shoji Arlington MA On Monday, September 11, 2023 at 9:58:43 AM UTC-4 J J wrote: > Hi, I have been really interested in the discussion on the thread "upright > bars: how does

[RBW] Re: Tiller effect: could someone please explain?

I associate tiller effect with wheel flop. Not sure if if that is correct. But I've only ever experienced negative effects of high swept back bars on a very raked out fork with a steep seat tube. I've never had any I'll effects on a low or mid trail bike with swept back bars. On Monday, Septem

[RBW] Sweepback bars, Clems, frame design, and efficient pedaling [upright bars: how does shorter or longer stem affect steering?]

I have no dog scheduled for participation in this most benign of discussions, but I do have a question. I as Garth like a riding position that bends my hips sufficiently -- so, sufficient saddle setback and sufficient bar drop and distance -- and I as he expect that a Roadini designed for a drop ba

[RBW] Re: Tiller effect: could someone please explain?

I call it the wheelbarrow effect myself, as that most aptly describes the sensation in a relatable way. Try pushing a wheelbarrow up a steep hill. hilarity ensues. Once you get knocked off your intended line, it's very difficult to move it back on track as the wheelbarrow just wants to go i

Re: [RBW] Re: Tiller effect: could someone please explain?

Nearly 6,000 miles in on my Clem & nearly 1,000 on my Gus; said wheelbarrow effect (which I understand) does not exist. That said, neither is a racing bicycle. Thank goodness.Sent from my iPhoneOn Sep 11, 2023, at 1:26 PM, Garth wrote:I call it the wheelbarrow effect myself, as that most aptly de

Re: [RBW] Re: Tiller effect: could someone please explain?

> Try pushing a wheelbarrow up a steep hill. hilarity ensues. Once you get knocked off your intended line, it's very difficult to move it back on track as the wheelbarrow just wants to go in the direction it was moved to go Thank you for describing it this way. You just described exactly how i

[RBW] Re: Sweepback bars, Clems, frame design, and efficient pedaling [upright bars: how does shorter or longer stem affect steering?]

Patrick: You are correct, the very long effective toptubes of Clems makes it possible to run a sweepback bar without sitting bolt upright. Leah (Bicycle Belle Ding Ding) might want to chime in here, she has much experience with this on Clems and Platys. On Monday, September 11, 2023 at 10:19

Re: [RBW] Re: Sweepback bars, Clems, frame design, and efficient pedaling [upright bars: how does shorter or longer stem affect steering?]

Thanks, Joe. This information keeps the Clem on my "Someday" list. On Mon, Sep 11, 2023 at 12:26 PM Joe Bernard wrote: > Patrick: > > You are correct, the very long effective toptubes of Clems makes it > possible to run a sweepback bar without sitting bolt upright. Leah (Bicycle > Belle Ding Din

[RBW] Re: Sweepback bars, Clems, frame design, and efficient pedaling [upright bars: how does shorter or longer stem affect steering?]

Patrick, from my experience with the Bombadil, which has a rather long TT for it's given size, (the 60cm size has a 63cm TT), and riding it with an Albatross bar and 130mm stem, about 2 inches above the saddle.. yes I could lean forward going up steep hills, but the high bars limit just how

Re: [RBW] Re: Tiller effect: could someone please explain?

I am not a fan of the super long stems with wide sweptback bars. Super flexy and the long stem makes the forward positions unusable for me. I struggle a but with Riv's sizing suggestions. Get a frame thats oversized and then stick a really tall and long stem on it with sweptback bars. All of th

Re: [RBW] Re: Tiller effect: could someone please explain?

I also don't do really high bars via the stem or the bars themselves. The tosco is about the max I will do and enjoy. Otherwise I am in the choco/losco camp. Not much rise and no sweep forward. On Monday, September 11, 2023 at 3:28:41 PM UTC-4 Johnny Alien wrote: > I am not a fan of the super l

[RBW] Re: FS: Nitto Mark's Rack M1 - Excellent - Extra Struts

This has sold. Thanks! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visi

Re: [RBW] Re: Style on the bike

This is my choice for style on a bike. Rudi Altig having a feed during a 1964 TdF stage, pedalling with one foot and steering with the other: [image: altig.jpg] He died in 2016, but he was still riding a bike until shortly before then - he was one of the three cyclists in the arte.tv series on

[RBW] Bicycle Solidarity in Ukraine

Stumbled across this bit of reportage after checking out Nick P's link to arte.tv Ukraine: Bicycle Solidarity Cliché I'm sure, but bikes make a difference. Cheers, John -- You received this message because you are subscribed to th

[RBW] Re: FS: 56cm Riv'd Out '93 Bridgestone NB-26 (One of a kind!)

Bump on this - Price drop to *750$ shipped.* On Saturday, August 26, 2023 at 12:52:02 PM UTC-4 Bryan Dalik wrote: > Hey all - I am putting up my beloved Bridgestone for sale. It is a 1993 > Bridgestone NB-26. 22" (or 56cm) seattube length, 23" top tube length. I am > 6'2'' with a 90cm PBH and m

[RBW] Re: First ride report from Western PA

Cool, I'll keep an eye out for you as well. On Sunday, September 10, 2023 at 10:14:30 AM UTC-4 ascpgh wrote: > Nice, from a fellow Rambouillet owner. in SW PA Mine is an '02 orangesicle > and I am out along those paths and ways alot. Will be looking for you. > > Andy Cheatham > Pittsburgh > > O

[RBW] FS: 59cm Clem H F/F/HS + Seatpost

Selling a 59cm Clem H frameset with FSA headset and some colorful spacers along with a seatpost. It's in pretty good shape, has some minor chips and scratches along with one bigger chunk in the top tube. Structurally great, ride is super smooth and fun. Looking for *700$ shipped. *Feel free to

Re: [RBW] First ride report from Western PA

That is the Buena Vista furnace from 1847- https://www.indianacountyparks.org/parks/buena_vista_furnace/history.aspx The thirty-foot high furnace used local iron ore, limestone and charcoal to produce approximately 400 tons of pig iron per year. Approximately 61 men and boys, and 30 horses and

Re: [RBW] Re: Tiller effect: could someone please explain?

Thanks to all of you for the responses, and Shoji and Garth for the additional information. Yes, the wheelbarrow effect. That's a great descriptive image. I have definitely experienced it with an actual wheelbarrow (super annoying and funny) and on a bike! But I've never experienced the wheel

[RBW] ISO/WTT/WTB: 59cm Rivendell Clem Smith Jr. "L" frameset RBW Blue

I am looking to trade my 2019 Rivendell 59cm Clem Smith Jr. "L" frameset in LIME OLIVE for a Rivendell 59cm Clem Smith Jr. "L" frameset in RBW BLUE from the last production batch this past April 2023 or from 2019. ...or I am willing to buy a 59cm Rivendell Clem Smith Jr. "L" frameset RBW Bl

Re: [RBW] Re: FS: 60cm Platypus Complete Pt.2

Pm’ed you.Sent from my iPhoneOn Sep 10, 2023, at 4:17 PM, jaredwilson wrote:Thanks, Richard.I thought it was a steal at this pricing too but no serious bites yet.Now parting out!!!Please send an email (jared wilson 327 at gmail) if there's anything you're interested in, otherwise I will be starti

[RBW] Re: Sweepback bars, Clems, frame design, and efficient pedaling [upright bars: how does shorter or longer stem affect steering?]

Apologies to Eddie (as the OP) for veering off on a tangent here, but I find Patrick & Garth's discussion of STA interesting -- and I think it makes an important point regarding what sort of bike works well with swept back bars and a more upright riding position. Now that it's been pointed out