For the record:
+1 for making it optional, with a debug setting default to off.
The viewer has such wonderful instrumentation and debug facilities.
Removing them in the name of "simplifying" is a big mistake in my
opinion.
On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 10:37 PM, Kent Quirk (Q Linden)
wrote:
> It's n
Making the server version notifications feature disabled by default,
but keeping the option to enable it with more debug info in it
accomplishes the both sides nicely. It doesn't confuse the casual user
and it helps a pro make SL better.
Removing stuff just for the sake of simplicity, without cons
The old style build didn't work in cygwin shell either. It wanted
cmake and python to be native windows versions. After deleting cygwin
versions of those, all worked. Perhaps a similar thing can help for
the autobuild?
On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 4:07 AM, Nicky Perian wrote:
> I can't tell but it look
Hi,
Since I plan to implement the new XMPP chat available for the clients
that are not based on the official viewer, I could use some
documentation about the way the new group chat system. Perhaps the
best way to start would be with a few questions. Some of these have
already been answered by Gez
Gez,
Thank you very much for such a fast response. Just two small
observations. Authentication takes it's sweet time, possible area to
look into...
And conference.chat.aditi.lindenlab.com doesn't currently resolve to
anything (for those of us too impatient to wait for the project viewer
:)
Latif
Very informative page, thank you very much!
On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 5:17 PM, CG Linden wrote:
> "Everybody thinks Release Engineering is like a bikeshed, so people go on
> happily slapping paint onto it, not realizing that there is a nuclear
> missile silo underneath."
>
> Yes, this is one of thos
I was implementing new inventory capabilities for
libopenmetaverse/radegast and noticed the same slowdown compared with
the old UDP method. I need to run about 8-10 concurrent http fetches
in Radegast to be on par with the previous system. I don't know how
taxing this is for the sim though.
Latif
On Sun, Apr 17, 2011 at 6:39 PM, Brandon Husbands wrote:
> We cal already play sounds, do textures why cant we play a animation by uuid
> via lsl / viewer.
Viewer cannot "play" anything by asset id (at least I haven't seen UI
for such a feature). You probably meant LSL scripts, and that was a
co
On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 10:49 AM, Jonathan Welch wrote:
> A friend testing this found what might be considered a bug which none
> of you advanced people would notice: when you click on the gear and am
> sent to the preferences window you do not see the advanced section
> with all the sliders for m
Transparency was broken for me when Fast Alpha was enabled somewhere
in the debug menus. I don't know where the current location of that
setting is.
On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 6:17 AM, holydoughnuts wrote:
> On 6/23/2011 5:31 AM, Jonathan Welch wrote:
>> Could you also check glow (cts-644/cts-656) a
The about box contains a list of people who have contributed not only code
changes but have participate in other aspects of SL viewer development such
as QA. Are these contributions going to be deleted now?
On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 11:38 PM, Kadah wrote:
> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> Hash
s intended Why is that? *cross posts
> question to jira*
>
> On 8/2/2011 3:44 PM, Latif Khalifa wrote:
> > The about box contains a list of people who have contributed not only
> > code changes but have participate in other aspects of SL viewer
> > development such as QA.
On Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 2:23 PM, Henri Beauchamp wrote:
> On Sat, 7 Jan 2012 23:41:17 + (GMT), Hitomi Tiponi wrote:
>
>> Will a patch be provided for Viewer 1,
>
> Here is a patch that should apply to v1 viewers (you may perhaps get
> rejects due to spacing changes, but they should be dead eas
On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 10:18 PM, Oz Linden (Scott Lawrence)
wrote:
> I'm sure that there were any number of fundamental design decisions that
> could have been made differently, but our purpose here is not to either
> revisit those debates or to explain why we made the choices we did. The
> fund
On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 9:13 PM, Henri Beauchamp wrote:
> Nevermind (though, having a propely built Linux Sunshine-viewer would
> still be a good thing), I figured out the bug (race condition between
> links creation in COF and rebake requests).
How do you work around that? When I was implementin
No, Singularity is compiled with VS2010. Upgrading compiler version is
PITA because it means that some (most?) prebuild libraries would need
recompiling too.
It's probably safe to ignore this warning as the viewer doesn't use
D3D at all, and only functions used from DirectX are, as Liny pointed
ou
You will have to build it yourself. 3p-fmodex build scripts can be found at:
https://bitbucket.org/LightDrake/3p-fmodex
On Sat, Apr 20, 2013 at 11:08 AM, Lance Corrimal
wrote:
> Hi,
>
>
> how/where do I get a 3p-fmodex package to build the current development viewer
> with?
>
>
> cheers,
> LC
>
On Mon, Oct 5, 2015 at 10:40 AM, Henri Beauchamp
> I don't know what you are trying to debug, but just in case, be aware
> that at least one such "derivatives", in use on OSGrid, does not obey
> the purge trash messages sent by the viewer (it looks like the trash
> gets emptied, but on relog, the p
On Mon, Oct 5, 2015 at 4:59 PM, Henri Beauchamp > So, instead of
securing the communications (simply check that the user
> is actually logged into the requesting sim, or use AISv3 instead of
> UDP messages), you prefer breaking a protocol (not even documenting
> the change anywhere, and not warning
People seem to be confusing two different things: client side
scripting, and client extensions or plugins.
1. Client side scripting
Think web browsers. They all support execution of client side scripts
in one language in sandboxed environment. So the way original post
describes proposed design fo
It also means that now I need to hire a lawyer in order to continue to
make and distribute my text viewer (Radegast), with special features
aimed at people with disabilities. The terms mandate that I need to
have an official privacy policy published, and I also need to to show
SL ToS to users (and
On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 1:12 AM, Soft Linden wrote:
> Legal doesn't intend this to be a restriction on anything but use of
> our service or eligibility for inclusion in the Viewer Directory.
> Context is important here. Even the maintainers of GNU telnet won't
> let someone use telnet to mess up t
Hi Soft, I'm very pleased too see that some of our biggest concerns
were taken into account. For me especially the FAQ states that
provision 1.h about "shared experience" is going to be removed, as it
would be impossible to bring Radegast into compliance with the policy
if that clause were to stay
Joe,
While we're on the subject of clarifying the text of the policy, I
have a question regarding 1. g). Is it really necessary to mandate a
version number be presented on the login screen? Or is that wording
just assuming every third party viewer is based on Linden GPLed client
code?
Latif
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On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 1:17 PM, Boroondas Gupte
wrote:
> Rob Nelson schrieb:
>> Consider a user in a sandbox who wants to clean up his mess. If he were
>> using a viewer based on LibOMV, all the viewer would have to do is loop
>> through the region's object dictionary and return/delete objects th
I'm trying to implement the new MoaP capabilities in my text viewer
Radegast. However the two new CAPs, ObjectMedia and
ObjectMediaNavigate are not granted by the seed capability of the
simulator.
Is the login server disabling those capabilities based on a version string sent?
Latif
_
My apologizes, turns out the problem was entirely between my keyboard
and my chair.
On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 7:52 PM, Latif Khalifa wrote:
> I'm trying to implement the new MoaP capabilities in my text viewer
> Radegast. However the two new CAPs, ObjectMedia and
> ObjectMediaNa
On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 6:18 PM, Maggie Leber (sl: Maggie Darwin)
wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 12:03 PM, Tigro Spottystripes
> wrote:
>> sim owners can already control the Sun position in your client, the rest
>> of the WL parameters is just an extensions of that
>
> That's a pretty feeble ap
On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 6:30 PM, Maggie Leber (sl: Maggie Darwin)
wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 12:23 PM, Latif Khalifa
> wrote:
>
>> You can already override environmental settings. Option to set to
>> region default should do just that, apply region default settings.
On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 6:42 PM, Kelly Linden wrote:
> I do believe the
> environment should be promoted to being part of the content and not part of
> the viewer, I think we get more amazing in world experiences that way.
I fully agree. One of the often heard remarks that I hear from users
is ho
On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 7:05 PM, Maggie Leber (sl: Maggie Darwin)
wrote:
> I can just imagine a new use for all those tiny little ex-adfarm
> parcels along mainland roads: noob traps that force a blinding
> Windlight set on the unwary.
Don't let what the actual "Estate / Sim Windlight preset / da
On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 11:35 PM, Henri Beauchamp wrote:
> I found what was wrong in my patch. The new code now works properly, but
> for a cosmetic glitch (avatar not being rebaked while in customize
> appearance mode when changing an Alpha wearable) which I'm trying to
> address.
>
> You can exp
On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 11:33 PM, Soft Linden wrote:
> Some things will happen in the dark, but the current plan is *not* to
> do another monolithic Viewer 2 quiet cycle. We want to get
> intermittent code dropping regularly again - expect to hear more on
> that soon. Once that's covered, I know s
On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 12:58 AM, Dzonatas Sol wrote:
[snip]
> At the Open Source meet today, it appears we have a light at the end of
> To help quicken the merges and to save the history of them, we need
> volunteers on to help with the hg repository. The snowglobe-1.x branches
> can migrate over
On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 4:38 AM, Kent Quirk (Q Linden)
wrote:
> Hi, all. I've created a draft of our repository strategy for how we will be
> handling open development branches at LL, and posted an annotated diagram on
> the wiki.
>
> https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Linden_Lab_Repositor
While I understand the motivation behind the TPV policy, there are
still issues with it that go beyond it's the stated goals.
The problems range from silly micromanagement (section 1.g mandates
where to put your viewer version numbers), to far more serious issues
in section 7. Again, I do understa
On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 6:47 AM, Latif Khalifa wrote:
> Now contrast that to TPV policy section 7, specifically 1.a and 1.d.
There is a type in that line, I meant 7.a and 7.d.
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On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 6:45 PM, Nyx Linden wrote:
> Greetings Opensource-dev!
[snip]
> Some of the features we want to implement:
> 1) A new panel to edit what is stored in your saved outfit without
> creating a new one.
> This will include both an inventory view and a view of your outfit
> it
On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 7:55 PM, Nyx Linden wrote:
[snip]
> As I stated previously, I'm not completely stuck on the current
> structure, its just one that I know I can finish and ship in the given
> timeframe. I can think of ways to re-re-architect the structure yet
> again to enable this reque
Not to mention that some span over more than one bake, like jacket,
tattoo and alpha. I don't think changing wearable type is feasible.
On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 9:44 PM, Nyx Linden wrote:
> I'd argue that's an insufficient solution. Parameters such as sleeve
> length and color have fairly dramatic
Hi,
On windows it fails with:
CMake Error at media_plugins/webkit/CMakeLists.txt:17 (include):
include could not find load file:
PulseAudio
When I kill PulseAudio from cmake it fails with:
CMake Error in newview/CMakeLists.txt:
Cannot find source file "llpopupview.cpp". Tried extensio
On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 9:38 PM, VR Hacks wrote:
[snip]
> B) Any developer who develops and/or distributes their viewer is
> "responsible" (please note the operative word, responsible) for whatever
> code they've implemented. In other words, it is up to them to a) debug their
> own code, b) write
Hello,
I'm having problems specifying alternative login url with --loginuri
command line option. It work up to "final" viewer2 release, through
all the betas, but it seem to be not working in the final release, and
in the later snowglobe builds.
Latif
I second that Gigs, very positive changes indeed.
My thanks to Joe for making this happen.
Latif
On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 4:10 PM, Gigs wrote:
> These look like positive changes that address some of the concerns.
>
> Thank you for your efforts Joe.
>
> Joe Linden wrote:
>> Boy,
>>
>> There was
My guess is that this is a simple oversight when porting over to
viewer 2.0 ui infrastructure.
Latif
On Sun, Apr 25, 2010 at 8:38 AM, Marine Kelley wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> As I was testing the RLV on viewer 2.0, I realized that the "Spare time"
> entry in the sim console was gone, it used to be
On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 11:57 PM, Henri Beauchamp wrote:
> In fact, it probably comes from the fact that Linden Lab uses contradictory
> phrases in the TPV policy and in the TPV directory.
>
> Quoting the former:
>
> "Unlike the other sections of this Policy, participation in the Viewer
> Director
On Sat, May 1, 2010 at 2:20 PM, Henri Beauchamp wrote:
> On Sat, 1 May 2010 06:55:48 -0400, Jonathan Welch wrote:
>
>> I was thrilled to see the viewer to start to compile more or less a
>> little while ago but have
>> hit another stumbling block.
>>
>> I'm trying to compile SG 1.4 on Win XP using
On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 11:50 PM, Oz Linden (Scott Lawrence)
wrote:
> It's fairly clear that Linden Lab doesn't have the resources to devote
> to active work on both Snowglobe 1.x and 2.x, and it's not efficient for
> the community as a whole to be splitting effort.
Snowglobe is an opensource pro
Hi Merov,
Thanks for the heads up. I think having both viewer-public and
viewer-release available externally is the right way to go, good call.
We'll probably want to have hotfix branches too. I imagine 2.1.0 2.1.1
etc will be coming out of a viewer-2.1-hotfix or some such.
Latif
On Sat, Jun 12,
Hi,
It builds fine on windows but it does not run. I get ""Could not start
address resolution system" dialog on startup. After clicking OK, the
viewer exits. Thank to Kirsten Lee the workaround of switching back to
ares 1.6 makes it work again on windows.
Latif
On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 7:19 AM, P
I just tried building viewer-external on my windows 7 - 64, had no
linking issues that you reported. (I also have pretty old library for
stuff like fmod, but those are not changed anyway).
Latif
On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 11:30 PM, Marine Kelley wrote:
> Hi Merov, thank you for looking into this !
On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 4:27 AM, Yoz Grahame wrote:
>
> The Snowstorm project is aimed at dramatically increasing community
> involvement in Viewer development and improving communications around it.
Very nice words indeed. But not new. Shall we look into what happens
when user experience clashes
ill return "latif.khalifa". Which is my username, "Latif Khalifa" or
"latif.khalifa"?
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On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 1:48 AM, Phox wrote:
> I feel I need to take a moment here to address some of this:
>
> First of all, the issue with the login screen was NOT an attempt at
> DDOS, Fractured was looking at traffic graphs for the website in
> question and thought it would be funny to mess w
Hi Oz,
Looking through VWR-19505 I see the comment by the dev who made a fix
that you have requested a user story. Do we really need user stories
for bugs? There is effects setting in the main preferences floater,
there is a menu that enables to turn on and off the selection beam.
Why do you need
It's still far safer not to have a premium account. You don't run a
risk than when your premium subscription expires and your payment info
is not up to date that your account will get suspended.
You get locked out of you account, with a message "call
1-xxx-xxx-". This was not very helpful for
On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 11:24 AM, Marine Kelley wrote:
> The only issue is that the user is ALSO locked out of their SL webpage. To
> me that makes no sense at all, because that's how they could access tickets
> and get some help, or downgrade to basic, or change credit card info (what
> if the or
Seems to be a regression in 2.1.2.
On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 5:48 AM, Stickman wrote:
>> just checked... ALL attachments are visible in mouselook, shoes rings
>> and belt too
>
> There's an option in preferences: "show avatar in mouselook." It moved
> in 2.x, but it's still there. Unless they to
Tested:
SNOW-681 / VWR-1852
SNOW-683 / VWR-8726
SNOW-680 / VWR-10854
>From the test build posted, and they all work as expected. \o/
Latif
On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 7:31 AM, Philippe (Merov) Bossut
wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I merged 4 Snowglobe 2.x fixes to merov_linden/viewer-development-import and
> wou
Hi,
Probably the best would be to test these:
http://automated-builds-secondlife-com.s3.amazonaws.com/hg/repo/snowstorm_viewer-development/latest.html
And report bugs (remember to select 2.1.2 as the affected version).
Latif
On Sun, Sep 5, 2010 at 4:14 PM, Ponzu wrote:
> I am just a noob her
In case some of you wrote JIRA helper objects that got broken with the
JIRA updates recently here is a few hints:
Appending ?os_authType=guest to the end of the request will bypass the
OpenID check and allow you script to get the code directly, for
example
http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/WEB-27
Yey!
On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 2:04 AM, Philippe (Merov) Bossut
wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Just to mention that this feature has been pulled in
> lindenlab/viewer-development.
>
> Cheers,
> - Merov
>
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I found this behavior to be very irritating as well. The only way to
keep the notice from disappearing is to keep mouse pointer over it. It
needs to be fixed in any case, but I don't know what would be the
proper way to suggest a change.
On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 11:30 PM, Dave Booth wrote:
> In p
This is great, thank you Heri!
I only wish other independent viewer devs would provide patch
repository like this.
On Sat, Sep 18, 2010 at 8:35 PM, Henri Beauchamp wrote:
> Multiple attachment and inventory items links backport for viewer v1.23.5
> and Snowglobe v1.5 is available now as a standa
Thank you Aimee and Tofu. Your departure is a great loss for LL and
Second Life as a whole.
Latif
On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 8:33 PM, Kent Quirk (Q Linden)
wrote:
> Hello, everyone.
>
> We've had a good first few weeks of the Snowstorm team. It took a little
> longer than we'd hoped, but we have
Best of luck to you Tofu! Your great contribution and understanding of
SL is appreciated and will be missed.
Latif
On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 5:42 PM, Tofu Linden wrote:
> It's been great working with you folks, some of you for years now!
>
> SL is an amazing place, made amazing by its residents.
You are reading too much into these "targets". Those are just viewer
effects that help your viewer position head and the direction of eyes
of the avatar to the desired location. They have no other use.
Latif
On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 3:37 AM, dz wrote:
> Folks,
>
> Apologies if this is NOT the plac
Tested with https://bitbucket.org/merov_linden/viewer-development-storm-137
which produces working viewer, with FMOD support. Make sure to follow
the updated instructions on the wiki that are mentioned in STORM-406,
Latif
On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 1:37 AM, Ponzu wrote:
> Boroondas, my guru!
>
> O
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