On Fri, 2006-06-23 at 21:38 -0500, Lance Albertson wrote:
> Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> > On Fri, 23 Jun 2006 18:14:12 +0200 Patrick Lauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> > | Just to take this to a humorous extreme -
> > | would you be content if sunrise ceased all operations?
> >
> > That's not a
Patrick Lauer wrote:
> Sorry to disappoint you :-)
There are times for action and times for meditation, mix them correctly...
Also remember that rarely we need to take quick action or the world will
fall, "think twice, do it once" is a good way to avoid problems.
sunrise has lots of potential BU
I'm just trying to start again just to have it as example on how to be
productive and critical at the same time.
What I need:
(from proponents)
- A list of issue sunrise wants to address (each point 2 lines at most)
- How it will be implemented
(from critics)
- What is wrong with the model (each p
On Sat, Jun 24, 2006 at 12:07:52AM -0500, James Potts wrote:
> There is a problem here for the java folks...Technically, their
> migration-overlay is an overlay, and technically, that overlay is
> currently unofficial.
_Technically_ probably maybe, but please read what already has been
said about
James Potts wrote:
> There is a problem here for the java folks...Technically, their
> migration-overlay is an overlay, and technically, that overlay is
> currently unofficial. Therefore, technically, if it is against the
> rules for projects and/or devs to use bugzilla for unofficial
> overlays,
> What I need:
> (from proponents)
> - A list of issue sunrise wants to address (each point 2 lines at most)
> - How it will be implemented
> (from critics)
> - What is wrong with the model (each point 2 lines at least, 4 at most)
> - What you'd do as alternative as the criticized point ( 2 lines a
Thomas Cort wrote:
>
> Before people start replying, they should make sure they are familiar
> with the updated model/policies (read: they've changed since the
> original discussion on -dev). The new stuff is available at:
> http://gentoo-sunrise.org/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/wiki/SunriseFaq and
> http://
On Sat, 24 Jun 2006 15:36:23 +0200
Luca Barbato <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> It isn't in the format useful for a discussion point by point, genstef
> is converting it, I hope.
Yes, this is true. I was just pointing out that things have changed
since the original proposal and that before people beg
maillog: 24/06/2006-09:12:59(-0400): Thomas Cort types
> > What I need:
> > (from proponents)
> > - A list of issue sunrise wants to address (each point 2 lines at most)
> > - How it will be implemented
> > (from critics)
> > - What is wrong with the model (each point 2 lines at least, 4 at most)
>
Patrick Lauer wrote:
>> was
>> suspended in the first place. You're taking every comment that's been
>> made against it as a personal attack and have been ignorant in *all* the
>> technical details.
> Well ... if the technical details are "it will cause the end of the
> world" it's hard to evalua
On 6/24/06, Wernfried Haas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Sat, Jun 24, 2006 at 12:07:52AM -0500, James Potts wrote:
> There is a problem here for the java folks...Technically, their
> migration-overlay is an overlay, and technically, that overlay is
> currently unofficial.
_Technically_ probably
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OK, I attempted this in November of 05 (then forgot?), but since no one
responded to my last round, it has been removed. Happy gentoo'ing,
~mcummings
Michael Cummings wrote:
> Once upon a time ago, we added ExtUtils-MakeMaker to the tree to deal
> wi
http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=75674#c8
http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=48686#c1
Copied from second link:
> I have announced the end-of-life for this package on gentoo-dev and
> gentoo-user, as:
>
> 1) It only compiles against gtk+-1.2, which is highly outdated.
> 2) It only compi
Petteri Räty wrote:
> http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=75674#c8
> http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=48686#c1
>
> Copied from second link:
>
>> I have announced the end-of-life for this package on gentoo-dev and
>> gentoo-user, as:
>>
>> 1) It only compiles against gtk+-1.2, which is hi
On Sat, 2006-06-24 at 13:05 +0200, Luca Barbato wrote:
> (from critics)
> - What is wrong with the model (each point 2 lines at least, 4 at most)
> - What you'd do as alternative as the criticized point ( 2 lines again)
* Simplicity: The FAQ claims that Sunrise is simpler than Bugzilla. It
is - fo
Edward Catmur wrote:
> On Sat, 2006-06-24 at 13:05 +0200, Luca Barbato wrote:
>> (from critics)
>> - What is wrong with the model (each point 2 lines at least, 4 at most)
>> - What you'd do as alternative as the criticized point ( 2 lines again)
Let me reformat a bit
>
Critic 1
> * Simplicity: Th
Luca Barbato wrote:
> Edward Catmur wrote:
> Critic 4
>> * Conflicts between contributors (social): Alice adds an ebuild; Bob
>> makes a (maybe "obvious") change; Alice thinks the change is incorrect,
>> and, feeling that the ebuild is her property, reverts the change. A
>> revert war erupts. Many
Hi,
We held a meeting earlier this evening between User Relations, Project
Sunrise, brix and kloeri (unfortunately wolf31o2 was unable to attend)
to discuss the current and future direction of Project Sunrise. The
Sunrise developers felt that they were unable to change the format of
the project in
Christel Dahlskjaer wrote:
> Hi,
> We held a meeting earlier this evening between User Relations, Project
> Sunrise, brix and kloeri (unfortunately wolf31o2 was unable to attend)
> to discuss the current and future direction of Project Sunrise.
Uff, then I have to find another issue for my experi
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As most are aware I was only active dev in mozilla herd. I have decided
that it is time to leave gentoo, which leaves herd unmaintained.
Security team can do as they wish, they do not take the user to mind
when they want to make hasty decision, without
This topic has come up in the past, and I'd like to revive it once
again. The gentoo-dev list has gotten a lower and lower signal to noise
ratio over the past year or two, and it's difficult to dig out the stuff
that's truly required reading.
I propose that all need-to-know announcements and decis
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Donnie Berkholz wrote:
> I propose that all need-to-know announcements and decisions be posted to
> a separate, moderated (or restricted posting) gentoo-dev-announce list
> to ensure that no developers lose track of what really matters.
> Hopefully, this will also help to give more focus to discus
On Sat, 2006-06-24 at 20:06 -0700, Donnie Berkholz wrote:
> This topic has come up in the past, and I'd like to revive it once
> again. The gentoo-dev list has gotten a lower and lower signal to noise
> ratio over the past year or two, and it's difficult to dig out the stuff
> that's truly required
On Sat, 24 Jun 2006 22:30:31 -0500
Lance Albertson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Donnie Berkholz wrote:
>
> > I propose that all need-to-know announcements and decisions be
> > posted to a separate, moderated (or restricted posting)
> > gentoo-dev-announce list to ensure that no developers lose tr
Marius Mauch wrote:
> On Sat, 24 Jun 2006 22:30:31 -0500
> Lance Albertson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> Donnie Berkholz wrote:
>>
>>> I propose that all need-to-know announcements and decisions be
>>> posted to a separate, moderated (or restricted posting)
>>> gentoo-dev-announce list to ensure
On Saturday 24 June 2006 00:07, James Potts wrote:
> There is a problem here for the java folks...Technically, their
> migration-overlay is an overlay, and technically, that overlay is
> currently unofficial. Therefore, technically, if it is against the
> rules for projects and/or devs to use bugz
On Saturday 24 June 2006 09:12, Thomas Cort wrote:
> http://gentoo-sunrise.org/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/wiki/HowToCommit
this is a stupid nit pick thing (but i'm good at that)
the examples should use $ as the shell prompt, not #
pwnt!
-mike
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On Saturday 24 June 2006 18:54, Edward Catmur wrote:
> * Security (from malicious contributors): Glad to see layman will only
> track the reviewed/ tree; still, anyone who checks out the sunrise/ tree
> (and has it in PORTDIR_OVERLAY) is vulnerable.
>
> - Remove from the examples any suggestion tha
Lance Albertson wrote:
> Outside if this being more centered around dev-only announcements, could
> the current -announce list suffice? I'd hate to need to subscribe to
> yet-another-announcement-list (or make our developers/users). Our
> -announce list certainly has the historical presence where t
Ned Ludd wrote:
> I would be in favor of a gentoo-dev-announce list if it allowed me
> to unsubscribe from this list.
Sure, if you want to just accept any decisions rather than participate
in making them. The -dev-announce list should be for finalized
decisions. It should be too late to dispute
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