Re: ts_to_ct messages; ntp: time correction of -1200 seconds exceeds sanity limit

2010-12-06 Thread Kostik Belousov
On Sun, Dec 05, 2010 at 08:30:11PM -0600, James R. Van Artsdalen wrote: > FreeBSD gohorns.x 9.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 9.0-CURRENT #1 r216088: Thu Dec 2 > 23:20:14 CST 2010 r...@gohorns.x:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 > > I have been getting a lot of ts_to_ct for months: are we supposed to > l

Re: ts_to_ct messages; ntp: time correction of -1200 seconds exceeds sanity limit

2010-12-06 Thread Bjoern A. Zeeb
On Mon, 6 Dec 2010, Kostik Belousov wrote: On Sun, Dec 05, 2010 at 08:30:11PM -0600, James R. Van Artsdalen wrote: FreeBSD gohorns.x 9.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 9.0-CURRENT #1 r216088: Thu Dec 2 23:20:14 CST 2010 r...@gohorns.x:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 I have been getting a lot of ts_t

Re: In-kernel PPPoE

2010-12-06 Thread Ian FREISLICH
David Rhodus wrote: > Does mpd work in -current ? Last tried I, netgraph had problems with mpd. I have successfully used it on -CURRENT as late as: FreeBSD mini 9.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 9.0-CURRENT #16: Wed Nov 17 07:11:06 SAST 2010 i...@mini:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/APPLE i386 Ian -- Ian Freisli

Re: In-kernel PPPoE

2010-12-06 Thread Bjoern A. Zeeb
On Mon, 6 Dec 2010, Andriy Gapon wrote: BTW, there is a rumor that mpd may become an 'in source' program too. It comes 'in source';-) I think last time it came up for base, the package ended up being in the dataset of the release packages and I think that's fine enough. I cannot see any advan

Re: binutils problem? WAS [Re: static linking error: ELF binary type "0" not known. Exec format error. Binary file not executable.]

2010-12-06 Thread Anton Shterenlikht
On Sat, Dec 04, 2010 at 12:52:57AM +0100, Dimitry Andric wrote: > On 2010-12-03 10:58, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > >>>a.out: ELF 64-bit LSB executable, IA-64, version 1 (SYSV), statically > >>>linked, not stripped > ... > >>The branding on ia64 is wrong. The executable is not marked as being > >>a

Re: Process accounting/timing has broken recently

2010-12-06 Thread John Baldwin
On Sunday, December 05, 2010 6:18:29 pm Steve Kargl wrote: > Sometime in the last 7-10 days, some one made a > change that has broken process accounting/timing. > > laptop:kargl[42] foreach i ( 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 ) > foreach? time ./testf > foreach? end > Max ULP: 0.501607 for x in [-18.00:88

Re: Process accounting/timing has broken recently

2010-12-06 Thread Steve Kargl
On Mon, Dec 06, 2010 at 09:44:03AM -0500, John Baldwin wrote: > On Sunday, December 05, 2010 6:18:29 pm Steve Kargl wrote: > > Sometime in the last 7-10 days, some one made a > > change that has broken process accounting/timing. > > > > laptop:kargl[42] foreach i ( 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 ) > > foreac

trying to use xz on manuals.

2010-12-06 Thread Norikatsu Shigemura
Hi. I tested like following: - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - --- share/mk/bsd.own.mk.orig2010-10-06 12:22:05.747697000 +0900 +++ share/mk/bsd.own.mk 2010-12-06 23:40:59.058632584 +0900 @@ -169,8 +169,8 @@ STRIP?=-s

Re: Process accounting/timing has broken recently

2010-12-06 Thread Kostik Belousov
On Mon, Dec 06, 2010 at 08:38:30AM -0800, Steve Kargl wrote: > On Mon, Dec 06, 2010 at 09:44:03AM -0500, John Baldwin wrote: > > On Sunday, December 05, 2010 6:18:29 pm Steve Kargl wrote: > > > Sometime in the last 7-10 days, some one made a > > > change that has broken process accounting/timing. >

Re: non-invariant tsc and cputicker

2010-12-06 Thread Jung-uk Kim
On Saturday 04 December 2010 06:12 am, Andriy Gapon wrote: > on 04/12/2010 02:38 Jung-uk Kim said the following: > > If my understanding is correct, your patch uses the dummy > > timecounter until a real timecounter is chosen. > > Perhaps this is one way to look at it. > But I look at it differentl

Re: trying to use xz on manuals.

2010-12-06 Thread Alex Kozlov
On Tue, Dec 07, 2010 at 02:03:50AM +0900, Norikatsu Shigemura wrote: > .xz smaller than .gz, but effective is about 96.2%:-(. Some time ago I do similar tests. Changing compression for base man's to bz2 or xz doesn't make much sense. -- Adios RELENG_8 2010-04-26: 4,0M/tmp/mangzxz.hm0P7

Re: non-invariant tsc and cputicker

2010-12-06 Thread Andriy Gapon
on 06/12/2010 19:42 Jung-uk Kim said the following: > Sigh... Please see the history of calcru() in > sys/kern/kern_resource.c. Most important ones are: > > http://svn.freebsd.org/viewvc/base?view=revision&revision=155444 > http://svn.freebsd.org/viewvc/base?view=revision&revision=155534 > > B

Re: Process accounting/timing has broken recently

2010-12-06 Thread John Baldwin
On Monday, December 06, 2010 11:38:30 am Steve Kargl wrote: > On Mon, Dec 06, 2010 at 09:44:03AM -0500, John Baldwin wrote: > > On Sunday, December 05, 2010 6:18:29 pm Steve Kargl wrote: > > > Sometime in the last 7-10 days, some one made a > > > change that has broken process accounting/timing. >

Re: Process accounting/timing has broken recently

2010-12-06 Thread Steve Kargl
On Mon, Dec 06, 2010 at 07:35:31PM +0200, Kostik Belousov wrote: > On Mon, Dec 06, 2010 at 08:38:30AM -0800, Steve Kargl wrote: > > John, > > > > Thanks for the comment. It seems this splitting has become > > worse (for some definition of worse) in that previously the > > user time variation was

Re: Process accounting/timing has broken recently

2010-12-06 Thread Andriy Gapon
on 06/12/2010 20:01 John Baldwin said the following: > Hmm, I wonder if the eventtimer stuff that has gone into HEAD recently could > be a factor? It might change when statclock() is called. But I think that that code was committed more than 7-10 days ago, which Steve mentioned. -- Andriy Gapo

Re: non-invariant tsc and cputicker

2010-12-06 Thread Jung-uk Kim
On Monday 06 December 2010 12:58 pm, Andriy Gapon wrote: > on 06/12/2010 19:42 Jung-uk Kim said the following: > > Sigh... Please see the history of calcru() in > > sys/kern/kern_resource.c. Most important ones are: > > > > http://svn.freebsd.org/viewvc/base?view=revision&revision=155444 > > http

Re: non-invariant tsc and cputicker

2010-12-06 Thread Andriy Gapon
on 06/12/2010 20:34 Jung-uk Kim said the following: > On Monday 06 December 2010 12:58 pm, Andriy Gapon wrote: >> on 06/12/2010 19:42 Jung-uk Kim said the following: >>> Sigh... Please see the history of calcru() in >>> sys/kern/kern_resource.c. Most important ones are: >>> >>> http://svn.freebsd

Re: Process accounting/timing has broken recently

2010-12-06 Thread Steve Kargl
On Mon, Dec 06, 2010 at 08:24:27PM +0200, Andriy Gapon wrote: > on 06/12/2010 20:01 John Baldwin said the following: > > Hmm, I wonder if the eventtimer stuff that has gone into HEAD recently could > > be a factor? It might change when statclock() is called. > > But I think that that code was com

Re: Process accounting/timing has broken recently

2010-12-06 Thread Andriy Gapon
on 06/12/2010 20:43 Steve Kargl said the following: > The 7-10 days is an estimate. I upgraded world/kernel on > Saturday. The previous world/kernel could have been older > than I'm guessing. It could be upto 4 weeks old because > my laptop tends to lag behind the upgrades to my servers. I see.

Re: Process accounting/timing has broken recently

2010-12-06 Thread Steve Kargl
On Mon, Dec 06, 2010 at 08:46:15PM +0200, Andriy Gapon wrote: > on 06/12/2010 20:43 Steve Kargl said the following: > > The 7-10 days is an estimate. I upgraded world/kernel on > > Saturday. The previous world/kernel could have been older > > than I'm guessing. It could be upto 4 weeks old becau

Re: coretemp TjMax

2010-12-06 Thread Xin LI
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Hi, On 12/04/10 13:59, Irakli wrote: > Hi, > > ns# cpucontrol -m 0x1a2 /dev/cpuctl0 > MSR 0x1a2: 0x 0x1600 > > ns# grep GenuineIntel /var/run/dmesg.boot > Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x6fb Family = 6 Model = f Stepping = 11 I did

Re: non-invariant tsc and cputicker

2010-12-06 Thread Andriy Gapon
on 06/12/2010 20:34 Jung-uk Kim said the following: > I understand that. However, it is not clear to me why you want to > pessimize performance of old hardware. If you can convince me old > hardware with slow timecounter hardware (e.g., i8254) does not hurt > too much, maybe it's okay. Overlo

Re: Process accounting/timing has broken recently

2010-12-06 Thread Alexander Motin
On 06.12.2010 20:49, Steve Kargl wrote: On Mon, Dec 06, 2010 at 08:46:15PM +0200, Andriy Gapon wrote: on 06/12/2010 20:43 Steve Kargl said the following: The 7-10 days is an estimate. I upgraded world/kernel on Saturday. The previous world/kernel could have been older than I'm guessing. It c

Re: non-invariant tsc and cputicker

2010-12-06 Thread Jung-uk Kim
On Monday 06 December 2010 01:40 pm, Andriy Gapon wrote: > on 06/12/2010 20:34 Jung-uk Kim said the following: > > On Monday 06 December 2010 12:58 pm, Andriy Gapon wrote: > >> on 06/12/2010 19:42 Jung-uk Kim said the following: > >>> Sigh... Please see the history of calcru() in > >>> sys/kern/ke

Re: non-invariant tsc and cputicker

2010-12-06 Thread Andriy Gapon
on 06/12/2010 21:01 Jung-uk Kim said the following: > :-) Don't get me wrong, I generally agree with you *iff* it does not > hurt too much. Anyway, this issue should be resolved from the root, > i.e., kern_resouce.c, if possible. But what to resolve there? I just want to always have a stable so

Re: non-invariant tsc and cputicker

2010-12-06 Thread Jung-uk Kim
On Monday 06 December 2010 01:56 pm, Andriy Gapon wrote: > on 06/12/2010 20:34 Jung-uk Kim said the following: > > I understand that. However, it is not clear to me why you want > > to pessimize performance of old hardware. If you can convince me > > old hardware with slow timecounter hardware (e

Re: trying to use xz on manuals.

2010-12-06 Thread Chuck Swiger
On Dec 6, 2010, at 9:13 AM, Alex Kozlov wrote: > On Tue, Dec 07, 2010 at 02:03:50AM +0900, Norikatsu Shigemura wrote: >> .xz smaller than .gz, but effective is about 96.2%:-(. > > Some time ago I do similar tests. Changing compression for base man's to bz2 > or xz doesn't make much sense. O

Re: non-invariant tsc and cputicker

2010-12-06 Thread Jung-uk Kim
On Monday 06 December 2010 02:09 pm, Andriy Gapon wrote: > on 06/12/2010 21:01 Jung-uk Kim said the following: > > :-) Don't get me wrong, I generally agree with you *iff* it does > > : not > > > > hurt too much. Anyway, this issue should be resolved from the > > root, i.e., kern_resouce.c, if pos

Re: non-invariant tsc and cputicker

2010-12-06 Thread Andriy Gapon
on 06/12/2010 21:27 Jung-uk Kim said the following: > On Monday 06 December 2010 02:09 pm, Andriy Gapon wrote: >> on 06/12/2010 21:01 Jung-uk Kim said the following: >>> :-) Don't get me wrong, I generally agree with you *iff* it does >>> : not >>> >>> hurt too much. Anyway, this issue should be r

Re: non-invariant tsc and cputicker

2010-12-06 Thread Jung-uk Kim
On Monday 06 December 2010 02:38 pm, Andriy Gapon wrote: > on 06/12/2010 21:27 Jung-uk Kim said the following: > > On Monday 06 December 2010 02:09 pm, Andriy Gapon wrote: > >> on 06/12/2010 21:01 Jung-uk Kim said the following: > >>> :-) Don't get me wrong, I generally agree with you *iff* it > >>

Re: Process accounting/timing has broken recently

2010-12-06 Thread David Xu
John Baldwin wrote: On Sunday, December 05, 2010 6:18:29 pm Steve Kargl wrote: Sometime in the last 7-10 days, some one made a change that has broken process accounting/timing. laptop:kargl[42] foreach i ( 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 ) foreach? time ./testf foreach? end Max ULP: 0.501607 for x in [-

Re: coretemp TjMax

2010-12-06 Thread Xin LI
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Hi, On 12/06/10 12:52, Irakli wrote: > Information about this cpu I get from windows coretemp program > http://www.alcpu.com/CoreTemp/ > > this is screenshot of this program (new version) > http://technbball.files.wordpress.com/2009/09/coretemp_e67

Re: trying to use xz on manuals.

2010-12-06 Thread Tim Kientzle
On Dec 6, 2010, at 11:17 AM, Chuck Swiger wrote: > On Dec 6, 2010, at 9:13 AM, Alex Kozlov wrote: >> On Tue, Dec 07, 2010 at 02:03:50AM +0900, Norikatsu Shigemura wrote: >>> .xz smaller than .gz, but effective is about 96.2%:-(. >> >> Some time ago I do similar tests. Changing compression fo