to support installation from a single CD
(rather than 2+ CDs or downloads) then Xfce would probably be the right
default DE for that single CD. I do not support making it the default
in general, though.
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know which
common programs still have this problem.
(The first DVD image is deliberately limited to be less than 4 GB so
that it can be written to a 4 GB flash card. This also happens to avoid
problems with 4 GiB limits.)
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The program is absolutely right; therefore, th
or both x86 and 64bit because of the way in which is it is difficult
> to locate them.
Where? The download link on the front page is for an installer that
supports both 32-bit and 64-bit x86.
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si
[...]
Yeah it's such a minor goal that it's the first point of the Social
Contract.
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vealing which packages you are downloading, HTTP
-S doesn't do that because it is still possible to observe the length
of each response. In that case you should perhaps use Tor:
http://www.richardhartmann.de/blog/posts/2015/08/25-Tor-enabled_Debian_mirror_part_2/
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gt; mailing lists, wiki, or the BTS)
[...]
That's pretty damn meta.
The legalities should all have been discussed back then, and given the
relaxing of sanctions since then I would hope we could safely follow
the same process now.
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aimed at developers and experienced Debian
users), please report those to the maintainers for that web site (e.g.
"reportbug www.debian.org").
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anyone else with knowledge of the service) available to work on it in
the short term on a paid contract? Of course Debian itself will not
pay for this, but some users might be willing to sponsor this work.
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This sentence contradicts itself - no actually it doesn't.
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ne, nor with the word
Debian, nor in the same field as the Debian project, I doubt that it
would infringe. You didn't say what kind of business she is using the
logo for, though - if it does involve software development or IT then
there may be the risk of confusion.
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mers with the source code, or provide an offer to do
so.
This wiki page should be a good starting point:
https://wiki.debian.org/Derivatives
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e production of finished clothing that matters here
(though I'm glad to be reassured about this producer). It is also
important to consider how the raw material is produced. One major
cotton-producing country, Uzbekistan, relies on forced labour for
harvesting cotton.
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ve aside the question of whether 'Debian' would include the
contrib and non-free sections. I think that realistically we would
have to add a second tier of certification for the vast majority of
systems that require installation of non-free firmware for important
components like the GPU or
On Thu, 2017-05-04 at 07:56 +0800, Paul Wise wrote:
> On Thu, May 4, 2017 at 12:17 AM, Ben Hutchings wrote:
>
> > No, they should not, otherwise this certification becomes meaningless.
>
> I see these certifications primarily as a service to Debian users and
> not as endorse
way to get free (as in free beer)
> hardware for the DSA team. It's up to us to define the terms.
Free as in free kittens?
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problematic. It's something abusive
people often demand when they encounter resistance.
You could use "safety" or "welfare" - but that might be claiming too
wide a role.
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d contact: mirr...@debian.org
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time
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e than both the mainstream
> banking system and para-banks like Paypal.
>
> And why would you refuse a way to submit donations that's convenient for
> some donors?
[...]
Mozilla tried it and the result was a net negative:
https://fundraising.mozilla.org/bitcoin-donations-to-
fs2/
fs/jfs/
fs/kernfs/
fs/nfs/
fs/ocfs2/
fs/orangefs/
fs/overlayfs/
fs/reiserfs/
fs/squashfs/
fs/ubifs/
fs/xfs/
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On Wed, 2017-12-06 at 21:33 -0200, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:
> On Wed, 06 Dec 2017, Ben Hutchings wrote:
> > > > Do most of our file systems have extended attributes turned on
> > > > by now?
> > >
> > > I think (or at least hope) s
On Wed, 2017-12-06 at 19:14 -0500, Michael Stone wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 07, 2017 at 12:09:22AM +0000, Ben Hutchings wrote:
> > That's only because it lives in mm/shmem.c, not under fs/. It does
> > support xattrs.
>
> Have you tried it?
Ah, damnit. It supports *some*
> you reckon?
> which crypto currency would you accept ? Bitcoin, Litecoin, Dash ?
>
> looking forward to read your reply, thank you.
I'd also be interested to know why Debian won't take donations in gold,
CDOs or tulip bulbs.
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Teamwork is essential - it
to repo
>
>
> And in previous report
>
> > We're still missing (partially or completely):
> > - generate a signing template for GRUB2
> > - have DAK accept those generated source-only uploads
>
> This is 7th step in above, right?
The second point (have
On Tue, 2018-05-15 at 11:07 +0900, Hideki Yamane wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Thanks for the clarification, Ben. Very helpful.
>
> On Mon, 14 May 2018 15:35:50 +0100
> Ben Hutchings wrote:
> > The second point (have DAK accept ...) is part of step 7, yes. It
> > seem
27;t yet found time to setup an UEFI-SB test environment to check
> that everything works.
[...]
It's fairly easy to do with OVMF; this blog entry summarises the
process:
https://www.decadent.org.uk/ben/blog/experiments-with-signed-kernels-and-modules-in-debian.html
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However this is not currently a requirement for contributing to the
kernel upstream.
Contributions from the one litigious copyright holder are no longer
accepted, and I would expect his code to be gradually replaced over
time.
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Computers are not intelligent. They only think they a
;t refuted
>
> 5. There doesn't appear to be an appeals process (contact DAM?)
[...]
There is, since any decision by the DPL or a delegate can be overridden
by General Resolution.
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promotion?
> But it is, isn't it? Or, at least, as a next step.
>
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mental problem.
> >
> > It really *isn't* that hard to just think about the effect of your words
> > on others *all the time*. As Russ said, that's a fundamental skill.
> >
> > Debian is not a locker room.
>
> On the other hand, when did people get so thin skinned
ted counter-accusations is completely
> unacceptable.
[...]
I don't see the need for Chris to respond to allegations just because
they're being repeated by multiple sock-puppet accounts. Even if the
latest such account has a real sounding name configured.
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It
em unrelated to buster.
> According to https://backports.debian.org/Instructions/#index6h2 you
> should report backports bugs to debian-backpo...@lists.debian.org.
There is no need to report this problem, it's known and will be
resolved shortly.
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On Fri, 2019-03-29 at 08:42 +0100, Stacey Lee wrote:
> Hello everybody
> I'm an outsider here but I couldn't ignore what is going
> on.
[...]
Shut up Daniel.
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The signature is a bit of a giveaway, Daniel.
Ben.
On Mon, 2019-04-22 at 14:15 +, Enrico Zini wrote:
[...]
> Take your mailboxes with you. Free, fast and secure Mail & Cloud:
> https://www.eclipso.eu - Time to change!
>
>
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counts, regardless of
whether the vendor is interested in being a sponsor.
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On Sun, 2019-08-04 at 23:20 +, Debi Leaks wrote:
> will debian people ever stop throwing rocks at each other?
>
>
> https://pastebin.com/Xm4J1hVd
It's basically just you throwing rocks at us, Daniel.
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Beware of programmers who carry screwdrivers. -
and users.
I don't think Debian should subsidise this group, beyond providing the
usual ports infrastructure.
If I'm mistaken and the m68k port is attracting new contributors to
Debian, that contribute in other areas as well, I might be persuaded
otherwise.
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St
gt; But Freexian pays them for the LTS work, that's correct.
>
> Debian volunteers indeed are asked nicely if they want to spend their
> volunteer time on that not-really-Debian-thing-labeled-confusingly.
[...]
Debian LTS is a really-Debian-thing.
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ly on a user's page, with information synced from
> nm.debian.org.
[...]
This seems to address the only concern I had with your proposal.
Thanks for all your work on SSO.
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73.46% of all statistics are made up.
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ation,
> and to publicly speak out against it.
Is this any worse than the anti-circumvention clauses in the US DMCA,
the UK 1988 Copyright Act, and similar legislation in other countries?
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sn't clearly connote what we want it
> to.
[...]
I think the bikeshed should be pink.
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aid_sas driver. They should therefore be supported in Debian 6.0,
though you are better placed to test that!
Hardware support questions should usually be directed to the
debian-kernel or debian-user list.
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Once a job is fouled up, anything done to improve it makes it w
s part of their job at an organisation
that uses it.
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).
A few people consider that devices are more 'free' if they don't require
the host to help them load this firmware. And h-node may be useful for
those people, but not for the large majority who realise that
downloading non-free firmware won't taint their precious b
On Fri, 2011-06-03 at 23:36 -0400, John Sullivan wrote:
> Ben Hutchings writes:
>
> > On Fri, 2011-06-03 at 11:42 -0400, John Sullivan wrote:
> >> Thomas Goirand writes:
> >>
> >> > The point is to have a system so that manufacturers can write &qu
for list maintenance can be
reached at .
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nsulting people.
> I also considered investing into the Debian project by donating
> millions of dollars.
[...]
If you really have so much money to spare, consider paid support from a
consultant as listed under <http://www.debian.org/consultants/>.
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machine, I doubt
that we could use them to improve floating point performance. That
would normally be done by upstream developers working on compilers and
numerical libraries.
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re this is not generally allowed, this should probably be
noted in the copyright file (admittedly a misnomer in this case).
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that the
program a user launches is $brand_y.
If the programs in question are unmodified, I think we can reasonably
claim that we are using their trademarks in a descriptive way, which is
fair use (depending, of course, on jurisdiction). But if they are
modified in any significant way, I don't
er for it!
This is the wrong list to ask; you want debian-user.
You also need to specify *which* Intel Ethernet controller it is, asthey
have made probably over a hundred different network controllers.
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tant changes pending, including a fix for a
regression in 2.6.32-40 (currently in stable-proposed-updates). I can
probably make an upload this weekend, but cannot promise that a further
upload will not be needed. We need some testing of the isci driver
(added in 2.6.32-40) and more generally regres
On Mon, 2012-02-13 at 18:40 +0100, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
[...]
> Although I'd like to hear your comments before deciding, my advice is to
> accept the invitation and have Debian join OSI.
[...]
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of using
> that one.
OSI's proliferation report <http://opensource.org/proliferation-report>
and list by category <http://opensource.org/licenses/category>
distinguishes their favoured common licences and the pointless licences,
though it doesn't say which common li
is much saner than guaranteeing authenticity through a social
> mechanism that intends to inhibit others from modifying our works.
Yes, let's solve this social problem by technical instead of social
means.
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If at first you don't succeed, you're doing about
t these are the responsiblity of the developer
that established the repository. Maybe also require redirecting bug
reports, if the repository isn't maintained by or which the blessing of
the official package maintainer.
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who hold them, perhaps this:
>
> We value healthy discussion and debate of all opinions, no matter
> who holds them. Ideas are always a valid target of criticism, and we
> welcome anyone who wants to respectfully join the discussion.
I still think we need to specify that
x kernel code? I'm talking about
> disaster management here.
We don't have to carry on such a conversation, or take what they say on
face value.
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may lead users to confuse drivers and firmware (which leads to
misfiled bug reports, etc.).
The specific references to NDISWrapper and Winmodem also seem rather
outdated now.
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On Mon, 2012-09-10 at 21:43 +0900, Osamu Aoki wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 02:54:12AM +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote:
> > On Thu, 2012-09-06 at 02:32 +0900, Osamu Aoki wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > On Mon, Sep 03, 2012 at 10:24:30AM -0700, Gra
stions; try
debian-u...@lists.debian.org or debian-ital...@lists.debian.org
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NOME or Unity
> DE. Xfce is fine but it's too basic with less customizability.
>
>
> I hope you can give me some insights regarding the next version of
> this great distro "Debian."
>
> More power!
The default desktop is GNOME 3, but KDE, Xfce and LXDE are
n get
> this?
Kali is not Debian.
You should be able to install the package for your distribution using
'apt-get install linux-image-3.7-trunk-amd64'.
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On Sat, 2013-03-16 at 05:13 +, Ben Hutchings wrote:
> On Fri, 2013-03-15 at 21:37 -0400, Nathaniel Biser wrote:
> > Hello,
> > I'm looking for Kernel Headers 3.7-trunk-amd64. I have searched the
> > net and debian and haven't been able to find any matches. I need
y in disagreement with the Debian Social
Contract. Debian respects the rights of users to choose non-free
software. linux-libre does not.
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We get into the habit of living before acquiring the habit of thinking.
- A
le you
>would like to attach online somewhere and post a link.
It may be worth clarifying that this applies only to the mailing lists,
not the BTS.
[...]
> Thoughts?
I think it should incorporate the appropriate parts of the Debian
Community Guidelines.
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frien
orporate the appropriate parts of the Debian
> > Community Guidelines.
>
> I've added a "further reading" section that contains a link to the dcg;
> however, I am reluctant to turn guidelines into rules, especially over
> that document's author's explicit obj
rips/comic/1995-11-13/
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rums, and donations to Debian's various fund-holders. I dare say I
use quite a lot of bug reporters' time with some testing requests...
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om Debian was a gloomy
> thing. Could you please recognize the problem and take appropriate
> measures?
[...]
The only way to override a maintainer's decision is through the
Technical Committee <http://www.debian.org/devel/tech-ctte>.
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> ...or just ease ITS contributions.
> >
> > ITS?
>
> Although I'm not sure what it has to do with the BTS, but could this be
> "Intent To Salvage" mentioned in a couple of gigantic threads in the
> fall of 2012?
BTS, but with I standing for Issue. F
ddle-class student', though perhaps that covers a wider
range of means than I think.
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r enough that we
should not make a public record of it, but I am very sceptical of the
argument in general.
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of a severed limb. - me, 29 June 1999
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e and see that
> you've been banned from a large project such as Debian.
>
> I think we should publish them, for several reasons:
[...]
I agree with your reasons.
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Editing code like this is akin to sticking plasters on the bleeding stump
of a severed limb. - m
on't even try and
> ask.
The lack of PFS might be considered an important bug and it is worth
having that discussion.
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Klipstein's 4th Law of Prototyping and Production:
A fail-safe circuit will destroy others.
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On Wed, 2014-01-08 at 08:31 +0100, Florian Weimer wrote:
> * Ben Hutchings:
>
> > However, there is now a blog post from Microsoft that supports what
> > Matthew Garrett has been saying for a while - they may revoke the
> > signature on a boot loader if signature verific
an overrule every
other decision. A GR can settle a decision finally but does *not*
create consensus. So if you honestly think that more time should be
allowed for a consensus to arise, perhaps you should propose a GR that
says this issue is not ripe for the TC to decide on and sets some
minimum delay
ple are working towards this
> goal.
>
> Note that many of our Contributors are not native English speakers or
> may have different cultural backgrounds
> ## Be collaborative
[...]
Is this last paragraph complete? It is at least missing a full stop and
following blank line.
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debian-user-portuguese.
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I have only proved it correct, not tried it. - Donald Knuth
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nerabilities in
Linux, to rely solely on containers as a sandbox mechanism.
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m-templates> as the starting point
for a test of packaging. However, since these are public knowledge you
would need to take care to detect candidates who are cribbing and not
finding their own answers.
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Time is nature's way of making sure that everything doesn't
...@lists.alioth.debian.org, listed as the maintainer for grub
and grub2.
I believe this configuration is unacceptable, but would like to check
that there is a consensus on this before pressing the matter with the
GRUB maintainers.
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Reality is just a crutch for people who can&#
?
Probably because of the non-free archive section. Alternately because
of non-free firmware in the main section, though that will no longer be
an issue in Debian 6.0 'squeeze'. Maybe you should ask them.
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I say we take off; nuke the site from orbi
you state them simply
enough. If you send a press release rather than waiting to hear from
them, reporters will often use that as the basis of their story.
If you don't talk to the press they'll just use their imagination to
fill in the details.
The former is preferable.
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an appendable
> format.
>
> So what am I missing?
This sounds technically plausible, but presumably requires some changes
in the debian-cd package.
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On Wed, 2023-08-30 at 09:46 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
[...]
> * GitHub allows anonymous Git cloning and anonymous browsing of the
> repository without creating an account.
[...]
Up to a point. It's rather easy to hit a rate limit when browsing
anonymously.
Ben.
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