Re: [Ayatana] VPN

On 15/06/10 07:37, Philipp Wendler wrote: > So I definitely would like to have an easy way to start a VPN > connection (directly in the indicator). It is like this even on my > cellphone, which has very limited screen space. But it would be ok for > me if the VPN options are only shown if a VPN con

Re: [Ayatana] How do I know when I'm connected to the network successfully?

On 15/06/10 02:09, Tyler Brainerd wrote: > > All the discussion of it I've seen to date has been netbook > focused. I'm interested to hear from someone at Canonical about > desktop . > > > Scott K > > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Networking > That's why I quoted from this page. It state

Re: [Ayatana] What do to about right-clicking on the indicator-applet?

When I'm teaching people how to use computers - I tell them to think of the right button as the 'menu button' (the word *context* is off-putting to many). This drastically improves their ability to interact with the desktop and predict what behaviour is expected of them. It makes sense to them and

Re: [Ayatana] Farewell to the notification area

2010/6/16 Conscious User > > > Plus, with this mockup, you need an inidicator icon/menu for each > > class of application that might put things in the notification area? > > No. Just for the corner cases that cannot use libappindicator and > never will, like Wine and Java. Are there any other bes

Re: [Ayatana] Farewell to the notification area

On 04/25/2010 04:04 PM, Marc Deslauriers wrote: > On Sun, 2010-04-25 at 19:28 -0300, Paulo J. S. Silva wrote: >> I do believe that the best balance would be to prompt the user in >> specific moments (log-out, before suspend/lock) with a dialog that has >> as default option to apply the updates. The

Re: [Ayatana] Farewell to the notification area

> Well, any closed but not replaceable application that can't or won't > adapt, as well as any open application that has yet to be fixed. The > latter should hopefully disappear over time (but how much time?), the > former also goes into the "never will "category for the purpose of > this discuss

Re: [Ayatana] Farewell to the notification area

On 16 June 2010 12:28, Conscious User wrote: > > > > Well, any closed but not replaceable application that can't or won't > > adapt, as well as any open application that has yet to be fixed. The > > latter should hopefully disappear over time (but how much time?), the > > former also goes into th

Re: [Ayatana] Sound Menu

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Tyler Brainerd wrote on 12/05/10 02:48: > > Looking at the mockups for the new SoundMenu design > , which looks great, my one concern > is for consistency. Right now, with all the new applets, we have a > myriad of i

Re: [Ayatana] Farewell to the notification area

> Well, I don't think that's the question at all. We already have a > near-optimal solution to this in sticking the old-style notification > area alongside the new indicator applet. An optimal one would be some > kind of indicator that gave good UX and integrated nicely with the > indicator apple

[Ayatana] Is it just me, or are the Users and Groups dialogs horrible?

Hi all, This has been bugging me for a little while. Most of the dialogs underneath Preferences and Administration are generally pretty well laid out and designed, the big glaring exception is the Users and Groups dialogs which seem messy and confusing. To better explain what I mean, I've created

Re: [Ayatana] What do to about right-clicking on the indicator-applet?

On 16/06/10 11:45, Jarlath Reidy wrote: > Having a different menu for each button seems to fall between two > lines of thinking and personally, I get caught out all the time by the > current setup - I can't remember which button to click to get the menu > I want because to me there is no sense to i

Re: [Ayatana] Sound Menu

On 16/06/10 12:19, Matthew Paul Thomas wrote: > >Currently, we only have Vertical layered controls. Each > > vertical row contains one function, and ought to be indicated in > > consistent ways (i.e., the triangles for running programs, the dots for > > status, the check for play/pause,

Re: [Ayatana] Is it just me, or are the Users and Groups dialogs horrible?

On 16 June 2010 14:54, Omer Akram wrote: > the 'about me' and 'users and groups' will be replaced by User accounts > diagloue in maverick. > > On Wed, 2010-06-16 at 14:39 +0100, Luke Benstead wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > This has been bugging me for a little while. Most of the dialogs > > underneat

Re: [Ayatana] Is it just me, or are the Users and Groups dialogs horrible?

> the 'about me' and 'users and groups' will be replaced by User > accounts > diagloue in maverick. You mean the User Accounts dialog [1] that has been developed by Fedora? This is going to be part of GNOME 3.0 (I think). Allan [1] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Feature

Re: [Ayatana] Redesigning the Ubuntu mouse cursor for simple notification of app attention

Platform team is reviewing unclutter for inclusion in the default install and session. MPT, you might want to provide guidance on the upgrade experience - this should be added to sessions after update. Mark signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature _

Re: [Ayatana] Is it just me, or are the Users and Groups dialogs horrible?

Ya I love ubuntu for that. They pick what they think is good without caring who has developed it. Others should do the same too :P On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 7:10 PM, Allan Day wrote: > > > > the 'about me' and 'users and groups' will be replaced by User > > accounts > > dia

Re: [Ayatana] Application Menu bug consolidation and plans

On 14/06/10 18:59, nickwinl...@comcast.net wrote: > My message is to the passive group or those who lurk.. Please note > that ``duped'' isn't a word. That is what you all should work on > fixing technologically and socially in the future, and not creating > new branches or nodes from the same tree

Re: [Ayatana] Farewell to the notification area

2010/6/16 Conscious User > "Breaking" is too strong of a word. Putting Wine/Java icons in a > separate window or indicator menu would make them suboptimal, > sure, but still fully functional. > > It's the exact right word, since I wasn't talking about functionality. Rocks are functional, but have

Re: [Ayatana] What do to about right-clicking on the indicator-applet?

2010/6/16 Jarlath Reidy > *(The only thing that catches them out is when to single-click and when to > double-click, but explaining the difference between the file-manager, > desktop, web-browser and toolbars etc comes later. )* > When I realized that the difference is totally arbitrary I switch

Re: [Ayatana] What do to about right-clicking on the indicator-applet?

On 16 June 2010 09:51, Mark Shuttleworth wrote: > On 16/06/10 11:45, Jarlath Reidy wrote: > > Having a different menu for each button seems to fall between two > > lines of thinking and personally, I get caught out all the time by the > > current setup - I can't remember which button to click to

Re: [Ayatana] Farewell to the notification area

Kristoffer, calm down. This is a brainstorm phase. None of the ideas proposed so far were proposed in the most polished form possible, and there are many other possible ideas to consider. It is a little bit premature to conclude that keeping the notification area exactly as it is for Wine apps i

Re: [Ayatana] dx-m-indicator-sound feedback

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Dylan McCall wrote on 14/05/10 18:19: >... > I was listening to the dx-m-indicator-sound session at UDS-M. I'm > really looking forward to the work on this now! (Although I couldn't > find the Gobby document). Kudos for using existing specifications (e

Re: [Ayatana] File transfer dialog behaviour

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jarlath Reidy wrote on 11/05/10 23:37: >... > I'm wondering if the current form of the file-transfer dialog is up for > discussion. I wanted to dismiss this dialog (see attachment). I was > fairly certain that the red X to the right would abort the cop

Re: [Ayatana] Redesigning the Ubuntu mouse cursor for simple notification of app attention

On 16 June 2010 15:24, Mark Shuttleworth wrote: > > Platform team is reviewing unclutter for inclusion in the default > install and session. \o/ ( Everyone: Alt+F2, apt:unclutter Alt+F2, unclutter ) ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ayatana Pos

Re: [Ayatana] Integrating Application Search & Install

> > On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 21:45, Diego Moya wrote: > >> If aiming for simplicity, I see how restricting search to just >> applications can help. But when the user searches to retrieve >> applications is because s/he don't know which application is the best >> one to use for a given task, in whic

Re: [Ayatana] Redesigning the Ubuntu mouse cursor for simple notification of app attention

thx, Greg! you added joy to my day with this one ;) On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 21:41, Greg K Nicholson wrote: > On 16 June 2010 15:24, Mark Shuttleworth wrote: > > > > Platform team is reviewing unclutter for inclusion in the default > > install and session. > > \o/ > > ( > Everyone: > Alt+F2, apt

Re: [Ayatana] Sound Menu

On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 4:19 AM, Matthew Paul Thomas wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Tyler Brainerd wrote on 12/05/10 02:48: > > > > Looking at the mockups for the new SoundMenu design > > , which looks great, my one concern > > is fo

Re: [Ayatana] dx-m-indicator-sound feedback

On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 16:48, Matthew Paul Thomas wrote: > It's just a menu, it's not reinventing the audio system. > ..yet it's close to reinventing the audio backend's interface to the technically unaware user. "The menu should give easiest access to the volume of the primary sound > output d

Re: [Ayatana] File transfer dialog behaviour

On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 17:04, Matthew Paul Thomas wrote: > To avoid that kind of confusion, a progress window -- a window that > embodies a task the computer is completing, and closes itself when done > - -- should not have a close button in its title bar at all. > thank you. ditch the title bar

Re: [Ayatana] File transfer dialog behaviour

On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 00:29, Frederik Nnaji wrote: > >> In 2008 I wrote a specification for Nautilus's progress window. >> >> > > nce! > you did that in '08 already? > the item's name shouldn't be in the title? why is that? > sorry about the l

Re: [Ayatana] Make the progress bar more entertaining

Privet, Dima ;) On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 02:13, Dmitrijs Ledkovs wrote: > I like the idea but I really don't want to see "Ooops, spilt it" when > I'm backing up an archive of all of my family photos. This doesn't > describe operating system as reliable nor precise to me. > ..that would be a publi

Re: [Ayatana] dx-m-indicator-sound feedback

On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 3:18 PM, Frederik Nnaji wrote: > On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 16:48, Matthew Paul Thomas > wrote: >> >> It's just a menu, it's not reinventing the audio system. Ah, of course. Thanks :) I was mainly worried that there _was_ reinvention going on, so I'm happy to know that noth

Re: [Ayatana] dx-m-indicator-sound feedback

On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 01:36, Dylan McCall wrote: > The panel is meant to be detached from the rest of the desktop. That > means it looks the same on all workspaces no matter what window is > currently focused. Workspaces were not part of my point, not relevant to my proposal either. > > * m

Re: [Ayatana] VPN

On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 12:08, Mark Shuttleworth wrote: > On 15/06/10 07:37, Philipp Wendler wrote: > > So I definitely would like to have an easy way to start a VPN > > connection (directly in the indicator). It is like this even on my > > cellphone, which has very limited screen space. But it w

Re: [Ayatana] Applications, a navigable folder

That picture makes me think of osx. I like what your sayiin tho. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ayatana Post to : ayatana@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ayatana More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp

Re: [Ayatana] Applications, a navigable folder

On Thu, 2010-06-17 at 03:57 +0200, Frederik Nnaji wrote: > * delete application from /usr/share/applications to do "apt-get > remove [package]" > * drag a package name or apt-url into this folder to do > "apt:[package]" > * show details about software application in side pane (version, > homepage,