Didier , Well ... No ... I've not attempted to use the SiLabs IDE. I'm still looking for doc's on what it's supposed to do, etc. I'll "get around to it." I'm interested in a more generalized procedure not wedded to a given manufacturer's tools, at least for the moment. I understand your comment. I believe, as well, that one would be hard-pressed to use the SiLabs IDE without SDCC or KEIL. Up to now, I've had the impression that the SDCC tools work from the command line in a Windows environment. There's an IDE called MIDE, which presents an editor, 2-kB-range-limited simulator (by TS Controls), and, perhaps, (I've not attempted to do anything further) a means for hooking into the SDCC compiler, which would have some potential, but for the limitation on the simulator. The TS Controls website is apparently gone ... and so is the opportunity to upgrade to a "full" simulator. That's moot anyway, as what's necessary is a simulator for the specifics of the MCU that's the target.
An IDE is a separate issue. more below ... regards, Richard Erlacher ----- Original Message ----- From: "Juges, Didier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <sdcc-user@lists.sourceforge.net> Sent: Friday, August 29, 2008 7:10 AM Subject: Re: [Sdcc-user] Virus in SDCC-2.8.0-setup.exe - MD5 etc tutorial > Richard, > > Since you mention Silabs, I assume you have tried the SDCC compiler from > within the Silabs IDE. Not a safe assumption. I try to read the doc's in order to learn what's supposed to happen before I "try" things. So far I've found about one paragraph that describes this, fewer than 100 words. >It is a very easy setup and seems to work well. I have done a simple >project starting from scratch and all went just like it did with my old >compiler (Keil-based Franklin). However, like you, I would be hard pressed >to use SDCC outside the Silabs environment. Good thing I do not have the >need at the moment :-) > > TI does have some useful app notes about SDCC, in order to facilitate its > usage with their MSC1210 processor. They do not have an IDE, so you may > find useful info for your case. > You may want to look at those. I have found a fairly detailed > app-note/procedure to recompile SDCC with floating point support under > > Windows/cygwin, even though I have just read it and not used it myself. It > may be for an older version of SDCC, I do not have it on this > computer > at the moment. If you have a hard time finding it, let me know. > > Didier > Yes, Windows users expect to see some sort of integrated development environment. Not being a Windows programmer, or interested in becoming one, I have no idea what would be required for such a thing. I doubt it would be difficult to generate in a simple, command-line-based approach. If one used DOS-based tools, the code size could be held down, and if one wrote the IDE from a DOS-based position, it would probably be straightforward, at least in contrast with what would be required for Windows. > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richard > Erlacher > Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2008 6:53 AM > To: sdcc-user@lists.sourceforge.net > Subject: Re: [Sdcc-user] Virus in SDCC-2.8.0-setup.exe - MD5 etc tutorial > > see below, please. > > regards, > > Richard Erlacher > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Frieder Ferlemann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <sdcc-user@lists.sourceforge.net> > Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2008 3:24 AM > Subject: Re: [Sdcc-user] Virus in SDCC-2.8.0-setup.exe - MD5 etc tutorial > > >> Hi Richard, >> >> Richard Erlacher schrieb: >>> words, ... like NOT ... I won't have time for it either. I've been >>> trying to figure out how to get anything useful out of SDCC, but the >>> instructions for Windows (Yes, I'm one of those ...)tell you how to >>> build it, but say nothing about how to use it. >> >> I cannot follow you there. Don't f.e. sections: >> 2.7 Testing the SDCC Compiler >> 3.13 Inline Assembler Code >> 3.13.1 A Step by Step Introduction >> tell you (platform independently) how to use SDCC? >> > Not quite ... that is, not from the extremely basic level. For example > ... > Assume that I have code that runs in another environment and now I want to > compile it into an executable for my MCU. I'm staring at a Windows > Desktop ... now what? The <3.13.1 A Step by Step Introduction> refers to > inline assembly language code. Maybe a few words about where to start > would be a good thing. >> >> Or are you looking for a C reference/textbook/tutorial and expect the >> SDCC manual to be one of these? >> > No ... those are widely available. I'd expect information on how to use > THIS compiler/linker/assembler, etc. though. >> >>> I just reported that virus detection in the latest SDCC file set. My >>> scanner seems to have found and removed it, but there are folks who >>> may not be so lucky. >>> >>> I did understand that those programs are checksum/CRC verification >>> tools. >>> I'd just never seen 'em or heard of 'em before, nor do I know where >>> they're to be found. >> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/md5sum >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/sha1sum >> >> Comparing just the md5sum (on a clean system) would be enough. >> > Well, that may, at least, lead to an answer to the question regarding the > downloaded file set. A clean system is never a problem. I use removable > (frame+tray) hard drives and always have at least one, for each system, > that has never been present when attached to the internet or even the LAN. > Sanitizing files acquired via the www is sometimes tricky, so they seldom > see the "clean" drives. >> >> Greetings, >> Frieder >> > Thanks for the comments, Frieder. I'm not complaining. I'm just > lamenting that I've lost my way. Perhaps I'm looking for that trail of > bread crumbs. > Being oriented to ASM and macros rather than HLL's for small code body, I > haven't made 'C' a priority for MCU development. However, as SiLabs, for > example, has put its primary thrust into supporting the compilers (KEIL, > SDCC) rather than ASM with its app-notes, etc, I'm taking another look. >> >> >> Richard Gray wrote: >> >>> md5sum etc are standard utilities on most unix/linux systems. I >>> cannot speak for Windoze, but I kinda doubt MS can be bothered, but >>> there are probably 3rd party versions available - if you can trust >>> those! >> >> :) >> > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's > challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win > great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event > anywhere in the world > http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ > _______________________________________________ > Sdcc-user mailing list > Sdcc-user@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/sdcc-user > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's > challenge > Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great > prizes > Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the > world > http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ > _______________________________________________ > Sdcc-user mailing list > Sdcc-user@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/sdcc-user ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ _______________________________________________ Sdcc-user mailing list Sdcc-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/sdcc-user
