Hello !

You are right. Siemens/ Infineon cards are hardly available. I just called 
Schlumberger and they said to me cards are only selled to banks and big companys which 
buy about >100 cards. So what do these people think??

Where did you buy cards??

The Schlumberger webpage is rather a bad idea as crypto cards only sold to US and 
Canada.

Hopefully G&D will be better than others.

Actually I prefer Java Cards to BASIC cards.


Greetings

JH

> Mahlzeit
> 
> 
> Danny Kumamoto wrote:
> > Matthias Bruestle wrote:
> > 
> > > If somebody knows a source of cards in very small quantities
> > > and/or card documentation, please, please let me know. Also
> > > a source for a cheap (or maybe not expensive) reader with a
> > > PIN pad and documentation is very welcome.
> > 
> > Have you looked at our www.cardstore.slb.com?  We sell both crypto
> > (non-JC) and Java Card cards in quantities of 5.  Most of our docs are
> > online (or will be soon), as well.
> 
> I once ordered there, but this site has some disadvantages.
> 
> 1) Cryptocards can not be ordered outside the USA/Canada.
> 
> 2) The transport makes them really expensive for me.
> 
> 3) It was a real chaos ordering there. It was worse than the ordering
>    of my PC in 1992. (And there is no contact information on this site.)
> 
> (And I still don't know how the Stamped commands work, if 3DES MAC
> commands are possible on the Cryptoflex and why Encrypt 3DES Int Auth
> and Decrypt 3DES Int Auth with the previous result does not result
> in the starting value while it does with DES.)
> 
> But a good point for the Cyberflex is the java compiler for Linux.
> 
> IMO very good is the site of Zeitcontrol. SDKs and detailed documentation
> for download and cards can be ordered in any quantity. If only I knew
> BASIC better.
> 
> A very bad example is SIEMENS (or how it is called now) where it is
> impossible to get documentation.
> 
> I called last year (or maybe the year before) about 20 firms makeing
> chips/cards/etc. The result was, that I could have from one firm
> cards without documentation and I heard things like "You want what?
> 10 cards? Ha! Ha! Ha!". A telephone orgy this year wasn't better.
> Gemplus would have sold me an expensive GemXpresso Development Kit.
> That was all.
> 
> Sorry for the little rant.
> 
> 
> Mahlzeit
> 
> endergone Zwiebeltuete
> 
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