On Mon, 2014-02-17 at 11:57 -0500, Stephen H. Dawson wrote: > I receive email that remotecontrol has a new posting, needing my review. > I go to review the posting, and it is gone. I assume it is due to spam, > as the email I receive about a notification are also are flagged by my > email client as spam. > > It seems like a waste of time to email, then one second later identify > the list posting as spam. It seems more valuable to receive the list > posting, determine if it is spam, and only then email when it is > determined to not be spam. > > What will it take to improve the emailing to list holders, to not be > bothered with notification of postings that are identified as spam?
I think this would be a very significant change, because the notification of moderation is handled by mailman as soon as the mail is received, while the spam detection is a separate step that is implemented for the GNU mailing lists and runs periodically. Finding a way to add hooks into the mailman notification methods so that they won't run until after the spam detector has run on that email would be a lot of effort, I expect, and probably involve new development on the mailman side. What I do is train my _local_ spam detection to throw all the spammy moderation requests into my local spam folder. The GNU mailing list spam detecter is really extremely good now, so I completely ignore (do not bother to moderate) all moderation requests that are put into my spam folder and I assume they'll disappear on their own. If I'm scanning my local spam folder and I notice something that needs moderation that's not spam I train my spam filter on it, then handle it. That leaves (a) moderation mail that doesn't match my local spam filter and shows up in my inbox, which I'll deal with directly (if it's not spam I'll approve it, if it is spam I train my local spam filters on it then delete it), and (b) daily reports of mail that needs moderation from the GNU lists: if I get this email then something I thought was spam was not considered spam by the GNU list spam detector. In that case I go handle it. In the very worst case this may mean that a message waits a day to get moderated, but this is a very rare situation once you've trained your local filters. I find I spend very little time on GNU list moderation, which is excellent! HTH!
