Hi there. I know it'll complicate things but I need to say — Richard Wilbur, the Bazaar maintainer, actually responded in July. He even expressed willingness to continue development of Bazaar. I am attaching his email, it should explain a lot.
I didn't respond to him because he asked sth about Launchpad and I am not someone aware of how it was used. I believe this was one of the issues that I requested Amin to handle when I connected with him on Jitsi Meet in September. Nonetheless, it would have been better if I had just written to Wilbur that we can't help him with Launchpad. Now, the issue has been stalled for 5 months which is embarrassing (although somewhat fair since it took Wilbur just as much time to reply to Amin in the first place). I don't know how much development Wilbur exactly foresees and how strong his preference for using bzr for version control is. This might be something to discuss with him. Since it's a tool he himself develops, perhaps we could suggest that he also self-hosts it (to avoid putting burned on Savannah admins)? Best! Wojtek -- W. Kosior website: https://koszko.org/koszko.html fediverse: https://friendica.me/profile/koszko/profile PGP fingerprint: E972 7060 E3C5 637C 8A4F 4B42 4BC5 221C 5A79 FD1A On Tue, 03 Dec 2024 11:47:47 -0500 "Alfred M. Szmidt" <a...@gnu.org> wrote: > >>>> Hello, > >>>> Please drop Bazaar. It's been 8 years since the last release. I > >>>> doubt > >>>> if it's worth anyone's time to maintain it anymore. > >>> Thank you for your email. > >>> We don't simply 'drop' GNU packages. I have, however, emailed the > >>> GNU maintainer of Bazaar to inquire about the current development and > >>> maintenance status of the project and going into the future. > >>> Thanks, > >>> -a > >> > >> Ah, I assumed it was orphaned since the GNU package is "hosted" at > >> archive.org. There is a fork called "Breezy" or "brz" available for > >> debian etc, so I assumed it was the best for GNU to drop it (to save > >> manpower etc.) > >> > >> Hacking happy. > > > > Right. As I understand it, Bazaar used to be developed and maintained > > in collaboration with Canonical, as hinted at by the fact that the > > project's site and wiki were hosted on canonical.com subdomains. > > It would probably be fair to say that the world at large has moved on > > to other VCSes, primarily to git, and it would seem that Canonical is > > no longer interested in developing/maintaining Bazaar - since they > > shut down the server(s) hosting those subdomains - and the community > > forked Bazaar into Breezy, as you mentioned. However, Bazaar still > > technically remains an (active) GNU package, so I've emailed its > > GNU maintainer to inquire about its status and whether he has any > > further plans for its future or, if it would make sense for us to > > mark it as 'decommissioned'. > > Hi! 10 months passed, did you get any reply from the maintainer on > record for Bazaar? > > GNU Bazaar should be decommissioned, yes. But lets do it correctly. > CCing RMS, and GAC (is that even active?). Can we decommission GNU > bazaar? It has had no development since 2016, the maintainer is > unresponsive for over a year. > > Removing Bazaar support from Savannah seems like a slightly different > topic and unrelated to decommissioning. If you do not have the > bandwidth to maintain suppoer for GNU bazaar -- just delete said > support and if someone complains, well .. they add it back and > maintain it. > > As I said...if GNU doesn't decommission it, it's going to be a > maintenance burden one way or another. e.g. on Savannah "technically" > still supports it (only because of its undecommisioned status??), which > makes Savannah hackers life miserable, because both bzr and its web repo > viewer "loggerhead" are a PITA to set up and maintain, which is also one > of the reasons some of Savannah's VMs are running on ancient versions of > Trisquel, which are just maintenance nightmares for obvious reasons. > >
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