Debug to file is working. No database logging is working. Within the 
file debugging there are entries stating that SA has tried to create the 
databases:

12 March 2008 17:46:51 CreateTable: () create table sa_uptime( said 
varchar(15),uniqueid numeric, nYear numeric, nmonth numeric, nday 
numeric,upcycles numeric, downcycles numeric, maintenancecycles numeric, 
unavailablecycles numeric, totalcycles numeric,upseconds numeric, 
downseconds numeric, maintenanceseconds numeric, unavailableseconds 
numeric, totalseconds numeric)

Dirk Bulinckx wrote:
> Not sure to understand, so the debug logging (to DB) works and not the others?
> Or are none of the DB loggings working, and are you refering to the debug (to
> file) logging?
>
> Dirk Bulinckx. 
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Servers Alive Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
> Peter Shankland
> Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 7:01 PM
> To: Servers Alive Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: [SA-list] Uptime Logging to Database Problem]
>
> Yes, it is failing for all DB logging. I have got the file debugging 
> working on the new machine it is reporting that it tries to create the 
> tables / databases.
>
> Dirk Bulinckx wrote:
>   
>> is it failing for the other db loggings too?
>>
>> Dirk Bulinckx. 
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Servers Alive Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
>> Peter Shankland
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 6:41 PM
>> To: Servers Alive Discussion List
>> Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: [SA-list] Uptime Logging to Database Problem]
>>
>> No haven't got any failed login entries. I have now out Windows 2003 SP2 
>> onto a clean machine and installed Servers Alive 6.1.2204. I have 
>> registered it, created an ODBC connection to a known good remote SQL2000 
>> server and I still can't the database to create :(
>>
>> Any other suggestions?
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Dirk Bulinckx wrote:
>>   
>>     
>>> do you see within SQL a failed login when you try to create the table?
>>>
>>> Dirk Bulinckx. 
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Servers Alive Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 2:00 PM
>>> To: Servers Alive Discussion List
>>> Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: [SA-list] Uptime Logging to Database Problem]
>>>
>>> SQL user - the built in 'sa' user which has rights to do anything and
>>> everything on the SQL box.
>>>
>>> "Dirk Bulinckx" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
>>>   
>>>     
>>>       
>>>> and the user you're using in a Windows or SQL user?
>>>>
>>>> Dirk Bulinckx. 
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Servers Alive Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
>>>>     
>>>>       
>>>>         
>>> Of
>>>   
>>>     
>>>       
>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 11:40 AM
>>>> To: Servers Alive Discussion List
>>>> Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: [SA-list] Uptime Logging to Database Problem]
>>>>
>>>> The SQL Server runs mixed authentication allowing both SQL and Windows
>>>>     
>>>>       
>>>>         
>>> logins.
>>>   
>>>     
>>>       
>>>> "Dirk Bulinckx" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>     
>>>>       
>>>>         
>>>>> What type of authentication is used by your SQL server?  Windows or SQL
>>>>> authentication,
>>>>>
>>>>> Dirk Bulinckx. 
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Servers Alive Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
>>>>>       
>>>>>         
>>>>>           
>>>> Of
>>>>     
>>>>       
>>>>         
>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 10:30 AM
>>>>> To: Servers Alive Discussion List
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: [SA-list] Uptime Logging to Database Problem]
>>>>>
>>>>> Have just tried switching on the other loggings to a database and these
>>>>>       
>>>>>         
>>>>>           
>>>> aren't
>>>>     
>>>>       
>>>>         
>>>>> working either.
>>>>>
>>>>> Have also checked out the sa user in SQL2005 and it is enabled and working
>>>>> fine as have manually been able to create a database with no probs.
>>>>>
>>>>> Finally, I have also put DOMAIN\Domain Admins into SQL2005 as 'sysadmin'
>>>>>       
>>>>>         
>>>>>           
>>> and
>>>   
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>> ran ServersAlive service as a domain admin, but this still didn't create
>>>>>       
>>>>>         
>>>>>           
>>> the
>>>   
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>> database(s). Have reverted back to the Local System Account now.
>>>>>
>>>>> Any suggestions?
>>>>>
>>>>> "Dirk Bulinckx" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>       
>>>>>         
>>>>>           
>>>>>> In ODBC theoreticaly the login is done via the given user (in ODBC),
>>>>>>         
>>>>>>           
>>>>>>             
>>>>> sometimes
>>>>>       
>>>>>         
>>>>>           
>>>>>> however with NT/Windows authentication even ODBC isn't able to handle
>>>>>>         
>>>>>>           
>>>>>>             
>>>> this.
>>>>     
>>>>       
>>>>         
>>>>>> Are you also using the other DB loggings and are they using the same
>>>>>>         
>>>>>>           
>>>>>>             
>>> ODBC
>>>   
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>>> credentials and are those working fine?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dirk Bulinckx. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: Servers Alive Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
>>>>>>         
>>>>>>           
>>>>>>             
>>> Behalf
>>>   
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>> Of
>>>>>       
>>>>>         
>>>>>           
>>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 10:00 AM
>>>>>> To: Servers Alive Discussion List
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: [SA-list] Uptime Logging to Database Problem]
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks for the reply, but should it matter if the user who runs the SA
>>>>>>         
>>>>>>           
>>>>>>             
>>>>> service
>>>>>       
>>>>>         
>>>>>           
>>>>>> has access to create tables or not, as when you enter the DB details
>>>>>>         
>>>>>>           
>>>>>>             
>>>> within
>>>>     
>>>>       
>>>>         
>>>>> SA
>>>>>       
>>>>>         
>>>>>           
>>>>>> it asks for a username and password? Here I have been using the 'sa'
>>>>>>         
>>>>>>           
>>>>>>             
>>> user.
>>>   
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>>> "Tobie Fysh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         
>>>>>>           
>>>>>>             
>>>>>>> The user that Servers Alive is running as has rights to create a
>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>               
>>> table?
>>>   
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: Servers Alive Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
>>>>>>> Behalf Of Peter Shankland
>>>>>>> Sent: 11 March 2008 21:46
>>>>>>> To: Servers Alive Discussion List
>>>>>>> Subject: [Fwd: Re: [SA-list] Uptime Logging to Database Problem]
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Have just tried creating a new ODBC connection to a different SQL2000 
>>>>>>> server and changing the setup within SA to point to this ODBC
>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>               
>>> connection
>>>   
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>>>> instead. Unfortunatly, I still can't create the table so at least it 
>>>>>>> rules out a problem with the local copy of SQL2005.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Has anyone else had any difficulties getting Uptime logging to a DB?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -------- Original Message --------
>>>>>>> Subject:        Re: [SA-list] Uptime Logging to Database Problem
>>>>>>> Date:   Fri, 07 Mar 2008 11:25:38 +0100
>>>>>>> From:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>>> Reply-To:       Servers Alive Discussion List <[email protected]>
>>>>>>> To:     Servers Alive Discussion List <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Dirk,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> When I run as an app, the table still dosn't get created. The
>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>               
>>> following 
>>>   
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>>>> is from the debug debug log file:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 07 March 2008 10:10:47 CreateTable: () create table salive( said 
>>>>>>> varchar(15),uniqueid numeric, nYear numeric, nmonth numeric, nday 
>>>>>>> numeric,upcycles numeric, downcycles numeric, maintenancecycles
>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>               
>>> numeric,
>>>   
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>>>> unavailablecycles numeric, totalcycles numeric,upseconds numeric, 
>>>>>>> downseconds numeric, maintenanceseconds numeric, unavailableseconds
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I don't think this should matter but I am running MySQL on the same 
>>>>>>> server. Obviously, I have had to set up an ODBC connection to the
>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>               
>>> local 
>>>   
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>>>> SQL2005 instance and this works fine, hence the reason I can't see
>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>               
>>> MySQL
>>>   
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>>>> would be an issue - thought I should mention it though.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Pete.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dirk Bulinckx wrote:
>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>> When running as app, and when you say the table doesn't get created,
>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>> what
>>>>>>> does
>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>> the debuglogfile show for that as reason?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Dirk Bulinckx. 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>> From: Servers Alive Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>> Behalf
>>>>>>> Of
>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>> Peter Shankland
>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 3:20 PM
>>>>>>>> To: Servers Alive Discussion List
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [SA-list] Uptime Logging to Database Problem
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sorry it has taken so long to reply...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Q:    Could it be that you're running app and service at the same
>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>> time?
>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>> A:    Definatly just running the service
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Q:   Does the service user have rights to the directory where the 
>>>>>>>> logfile should be created?
>>>>>>>> A:   Yes, running as local admin
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Q:   If you run it as app does it then create the file/table?
>>>>>>>> A:   If I run as app the debug file does get created, but the table
>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>> dosn't
>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>> Q:   Are you checking via a remote connection or directly on the
>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>> system
>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>> A:   Always run through RDC using the command 'mstsc /console'
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Dirk Bulinckx wrote:
>>>>>>>>   
>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>> Could it be that you're running app and service at the same time?
>>>>>>>>> does the service user have rights to the directory were the logfile
>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>> should
>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>> created?
>>>>>>>>> If you run it as app does it then create the file/table?
>>>>>>>>> Are you checking this via a remote connection or directly on the
>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>> system?
>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>> Dirk Bulinckx. 
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>> From: Servers Alive Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>> Behalf
>>>>>>> Of
>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>> Peter Shankland
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2008 2:40 PM
>>>>>>>>> To: Servers Alive Discussion List
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [SA-list] Uptime Logging to Database Problem
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I have now got the debug logging to 'stay' with the changes I have
>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>> made 
>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>> by restarting the service, but even though I have the debug logging
>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>   
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>>>>>> enabled and set to maximum, I get no log file created :(. This is
>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>                   
>>> the
>>>   
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>>>>>> same sort of problem as I am getting with the SQL Uptime logging.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Peter Shankland wrote:
>>>>>>>>>   
>>>>>>>>>     
>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>> It is running as a Service. Whenever I try to enable debug logging
>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>> to 
>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>> file, I put in the details, click apply then ok and then when I go
>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>> back 
>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>> into the setup the changes I have made revert to defaults, it all
>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>> the 
>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>> changes have dissapeared!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Very strange
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Dirk Bulinckx wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>   
>>>>>>>>>>     
>>>>>>>>>>       
>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>> How is SA running, as service or as app?
>>>>>>>>>>> Does the debuglog (file based) show any errors?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Dirk Bulinckx. 
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>> From: Servers Alive Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>> On
>>>   
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>>>> Behalf
>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>> Of
>>>>>>>>   
>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>> Peter Shankland
>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2008 1:35 PM
>>>>>>>>>>> To: Servers Alive Discussion List
>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [SA-list] Uptime Logging to Database Problem
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I am using Servers Alive v6.1 and, on the same server, have SQL
>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>> Express 
>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>> 2005 installed as I want to be able to log uptime / downtime to a
>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>> DB.
>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>> I have created the ODBC connection and it tests ok but when I go
>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>> into SA 
>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>> and Uptime Logging --> To Database, I enter all the correct
>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>> information 
>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>> and press Create Table but the table never does create.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I have also tried manually creating the DB and then just
>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>> configuring SA 
>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>> to use it but no user tables ever get created.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Any suggestions / ideas?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe send a message with UNSUBSCRIBE as subject to
>>>>>>>>>>>       
>>>>>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>> [email protected]
>>>>>>>>>   
>>>>>>>>>     
>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>> If you use auto-responders (like out-of-the-office messages),
>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>> then
>>>   
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>>>> make
>>>>>>> sure
>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>> that they are not send to the list nor to the individual members
>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>> of
>>>   
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> list
>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>> that send a message.  Doing this will get you removed from the
>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>> list.
>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe send a message with UNSUBSCRIBE as subject to
>>>>>>>>>>>       
>>>>>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>> [email protected]
>>>>>>>>>   
>>>>>>>>>     
>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>> If you use auto-responders (like out-of-the-office messages),
>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>> then
>>>   
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>>>> make
>>>>>>> sure
>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>       
>>>>>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>> that they are not send to the list nor to the individual members of
>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> list
>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>> that send a message.  Doing this will get you removed from the
>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>                   
>>> list.
>>>   
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>>>>>>   
>>>>>>>>>     
>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>     
>>>>>>>>>>>       
>>>>>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe send a message with UNSUBSCRIBE as subject to
>>>>>>>>>>     
>>>>>>>>>>       
>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>> [email protected]
>>>>>>>>>   
>>>>>>>>>     
>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>> If you use auto-responders (like out-of-the-office messages), then
>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>> make
>>>>>>> sure
>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>     
>>>>>>>>>>       
>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>> that they are not send to the list nor to the individual members of
>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> list
>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>> that send a message.  Doing this will get you removed from the
>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>                   
>>> list.
>>>   
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>>>>>>   
>>>>>>>>>     
>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>     
>>>>>>>>>>       
>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe send a message with UNSUBSCRIBE as subject to
>>>>>>>>>     
>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>> [email protected]
>>>>>>>>   
>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>> If you use auto-responders (like out-of-the-office messages), then
>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>> make
>>>>>>> sure
>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>> that they are not send to the list nor to the individual members of
>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> list
>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>> that send a message.  Doing this will get you removed from the
>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>                   
>>> list.
>>>   
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe send a message with UNSUBSCRIBE as subject to
>>>>>>>>>     
>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>> [email protected]
>>>>>>>>   
>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>> If you use auto-responders (like out-of-the-office messages), then
>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>> make
>>>>>>> sure
>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>     
>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>> that they are not send to the list nor to the individual members of
>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>> the list
>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>> that send a message.  Doing this will get you removed from the list.
>>>>>>>>   
>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>     
>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe send a message with UNSUBSCRIBE as subject to
>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>> [email protected]
>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>> If you use auto-responders (like out-of-the-office messages), then
>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>> make sure
>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>> that they are not send to the list nor to the individual members of
>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>> the list
>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>> that send a message.  Doing this will get you removed from the list.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe send a message with UNSUBSCRIBE as subject to
>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>> [email protected]
>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>> If you use auto-responders (like out-of-the-office messages), then
>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>> make sure
>>>>>>> that they are not send to the list nor to the individual members of
>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>               
>>> the
>>>   
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>>>> list
>>>>>>> that send a message.  Doing this will get you removed from the list.
>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>> To unsubscribe send a message with UNSUBSCRIBE as subject to
>>>>>>> [email protected]
>>>>>>> If you use auto-responders (like out-of-the-office messages), then
>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>               
>>> make
>>>   
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>>>> sure that they are not send to the list nor to the individual members
>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>               
>>> of
>>>   
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>>>> the list that send a message.  Doing this will get you removed from
>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>               
>>> the
>>>   
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>>>> list.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>               
>>>>>> To unsubscribe send a message with UNSUBSCRIBE as subject to
>>>>>> [email protected]
>>>>>> If you use auto-responders (like out-of-the-office messages), then make
>>>>>>         
>>>>>>           
>>>>>>             
>>>> sure
>>>>     
>>>>       
>>>>         
>>>>>> that they are not send to the list nor to the individual members of the
>>>>>>         
>>>>>>           
>>>>>>             
>>>> list
>>>>     
>>>>       
>>>>         
>>>>>> that send a message.  Doing this will get you removed from the list.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> To unsubscribe send a message with UNSUBSCRIBE as subject to
>>>>>> [email protected]
>>>>>> If you use auto-responders (like out-of-the-office messages), then make
>>>>>>         
>>>>>>           
>>>>>>             
>>>> sure
>>>>     
>>>>       
>>>>         
>>>>>> that they are not send to the list nor to the individual members of the
>>>>>>         
>>>>>>           
>>>>>>             
>>>> list
>>>>     
>>>>       
>>>>         
>>>>>> that send a message.  Doing this will get you removed from the list.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         
>>>>>>           
>>>>>>             
>>>>> To unsubscribe send a message with UNSUBSCRIBE as subject to
>>>>> [email protected]
>>>>> If you use auto-responders (like out-of-the-office messages), then make
>>>>>       
>>>>>         
>>>>>           
>>> sure
>>>   
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>> that they are not send to the list nor to the individual members of the
>>>>>       
>>>>>         
>>>>>           
>>> list
>>>   
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>> that send a message.  Doing this will get you removed from the list.
>>>>>
>>>>> To unsubscribe send a message with UNSUBSCRIBE as subject to
>>>>> [email protected]
>>>>> If you use auto-responders (like out-of-the-office messages), then make
>>>>>       
>>>>>         
>>>>>           
>>> sure
>>>   
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>> that they are not send to the list nor to the individual members of the
>>>>>       
>>>>>         
>>>>>           
>>> list
>>>   
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>> that send a message.  Doing this will get you removed from the list.
>>>>>
>>>>>       
>>>>>         
>>>>>           
>>>> To unsubscribe send a message with UNSUBSCRIBE as subject to
>>>> [email protected]
>>>> If you use auto-responders (like out-of-the-office messages), then make 
>>>> sure
>>>> that they are not send to the list nor to the individual members of the 
>>>> list
>>>> that send a message.  Doing this will get you removed from the list.
>>>>
>>>> To unsubscribe send a message with UNSUBSCRIBE as subject to
>>>> [email protected]
>>>> If you use auto-responders (like out-of-the-office messages), then make 
>>>> sure
>>>> that they are not send to the list nor to the individual members of the 
>>>> list
>>>> that send a message.  Doing this will get you removed from the list.
>>>>
>>>>     
>>>>       
>>>>         
>>> To unsubscribe send a message with UNSUBSCRIBE as subject to
>>>     
>>>       
>> [email protected]
>>   
>>     
>>> If you use auto-responders (like out-of-the-office messages), then make sure
>>> that they are not send to the list nor to the individual members of the list
>>> that send a message.  Doing this will get you removed from the list.
>>>
>>> To unsubscribe send a message with UNSUBSCRIBE as subject to
>>>     
>>>       
>> [email protected]
>>   
>>     
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