On Wed, 23 Dec 2020, 11:01 Mouse Mousevich, <u...@ll.mit.edu> wrote: > Please see below. > > TL;DR. >> patches are most welcome :-) >> > > Understood. > > >> Sage-9.2 has several idiosyncrasies that for me are hard to explain. One >>> - it deliberately refuses to work with Macports-installed packages, even >>> though their main difference from similar ones installed via Brew is their >>> location. How crazy is that? >>> >> >> To me, it is macOS that has idiosyncrasies ;-) >> > > True ;-) > But still, my Macports point stands. > > >> We don't have a single MacPort user among a handful of SageMath >> developers. Please feel free to provide patches. (Yes, it means supporting >> yet another nonstandard location, more or less, I suppose) >> > > The fun part is that to support Macports, you need to look in > /opt/local/include for header files, in /opt/local/lib for libraries, and > in /opt/local/bin for executables. How hard does that sound? > > And I daresay, that adding those directories to the Sage config code where > it is currently looking for stuff, is probably easier for a Sage developer > unfamiliar with Macports, than for a person experienced with Macports that > has no clue about Sage guts (and isn't eager to dive into those! ;). >
the MacPorts-specific part would be to create a list of packages to install, and put it into build/pkgs/*/distros/macports and a similar global location. > Second, pplpy-0.8.4 is "obtuse" enough to try compiling C++ file >>> linear_algebra.cpp with clang instead of clang++, and then complain >>> that CFLAGS that are (surprise!) C-specific, do not make sense for C++. >>> Need I mention that it is impossible to locate clang but not clang++? >>> >> >> pplpy upstream is here, it has a very busy maintainer who does not use >> macOS >> https://gitlab.com/videlec/pplpy >> - the main developer no longer works on SageMath, as far as I know. >> patches are most welcome! >> > > I'll take a look later, but the likelihood of me being able to fix it > isn't great. > > >> *Platform* >>> *-* iMac 2020, Intel Core i9 CPU, 32GM RAM >>> - macOS Catalina 10.15.7 >>> - Xcode-12.3 (with command-line tools installed) in >>> /Applications/Xcode.app, and separately installed CLT 12.3 in >>> /Library/Developer/CommandLineTools. >>> >> >> XCode is a moving target, 9.2 was released before XCode 12.3 >> > > True, but not really relevant in the context. The big difference/jump came > with Xcode-10. Xcode-11 and -12 exacerbated that a bit, but I daresay, > imperceptibly so. > > >> - Macports 2.6.4, with a ton of packages installed in /opt/local, which >>> include clang-11, gcc-10, python38 and python39, and OpenSSL-1.1.1i. >>> >> >> one ought to use XCode's clang(++), and only need gfortran from the gcc >> package. >> > > So one does. ;-) > As you can see from the log, the build uses Xcode's clang and clang++. > > For *my* stuff, especially when I need to deal with sanitizers > extensively, I use Macports clang. And, of course, Xcode's GCC really > sucks, so installing a "real" one from Macports was a-must. > > >> Fortran binary location can be explicitly provided by setting FC >> environment variable. >> (same for C and C++, one can use CC and CXX) >> > > It's all done in my config - *except* for Fortran. I don't use it any > more (for the last 20 years, or so ;), but it's no problem installing it. > *Assuming > Sage would be smart enough to use it* (rather than downloading and > building it's own GCC and GFortran)! > > >> If you like to enable MacPorts, think about providing an analog of >> .homebrew-build-env script. >> > > That's something constructive that I can probably do. Thanks for bringing > it up. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "sage-support" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to sage-support+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/sage-support/717dd948-f1c2-4e18-9708-1dd2e68e277bn%40googlegroups.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/sage-support/717dd948-f1c2-4e18-9708-1dd2e68e277bn%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-support" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to sage-support+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/sage-support/CAAWYfq1%2B%3D1ESX2PRPvNG%3DbTw36FDabzC0YpR-n3bx-Wd4MLkbQ%40mail.gmail.com.
