Hi, I'm CC'ing this to sage-windows, as your questions are very relevant to the Windows port of Sage.
-- Regards Minh Van Nguyen On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 6:46 AM, DigDug_the_2nd<dugthemath...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Thanks, that's really helpful. > For Visual Studio, can I get away with installing the Express Version > or even just Visual C++ 2008 if its just being used as a compiler? Or > does it draw on the .NET framework or parts of Visual Studio other > than the compiler itself in order to make Sage work with Windows? What > are the other Windows development tools needed . . . just Python 2.6 > or 7zip & G95 that are listed in the Sage for Windows Wiki? > My concern with licensing was that somehow some code from Visual > Studio would get used in Sage and my programs would use Sage's code > and then if I wanted to do anything remotely commercial I would have > to pay $1000 license for Visual Studio. But I think its more like > Visual Studio enables the open source Sage code to get along with the > Windows environment. > Another question about getting rid of Visual Studio once Sage is > installed . . . > once Visual Studio is gone, will I still be able to install extra > packages to Sage? Won't extra packages be Python code that will get > installed > through Sage's iPython shell? What if there are extra packages that > are in c or c++ . . . once Sage is installed will it handle the > compilation of c or c++ code like it does the Pyhton code? > > dug > On Jul 9, 4:23 am, Minh Nguyen <nguyenmi...@gmail.com> wrote: >> Hi, >> >> On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 3:35 PM, DigDug_the_2nd<dugthemath...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> > I installed Sage binary under WINDOWs Vista using the VM Player >> > as described in the Installation Manual . . . so far so good . . . but >> > I'm a little unsure what the VM Player is actually doing. Sage is not >> > installed in the ordinary sense that a program is usually >> > installed . . . right? What I'd really like to do is put the Sage_ROOT >> > on the PATH and then access all the packages in Sage and the >> > additional ones added to it. Can I do this by pointing the PATH to the >> > folder that contains the VM Player files that I downloaded as the >> > binary distribution for WINDOWs? >> >> Short answer: No. >> >> Longer answer: Currently the best way to run/use Sage under Windows is >> to use the VMware image. This essentially is an Ubuntu Linux image >> that is loaded using the WMware player. That means that the compiled >> version of Sage in that VMware image has been compiled for a Linux >> system, where the binary format is different from Windows. It's like >> you can't execute a Linux binary under Windows and vice versa (unless >> you use an emulator or a virtual machine). >> >> > If not then I just read a new post in the WINDOWs Sage Wiki about >> > using Visual Studio 2008 & G95 to build Sage from source. That doesn't >> > sound so bad, but can I uninstall Visual Studio once I'm done using it >> > to build Sage . . . >> > or will that mess up the way Sage works? >> >> Once you've used MS Visual Studio 2008 (and G95) to compile the >> Windows port of Sage, then you don't really need the compiler any more >> in order to run a binary. So, yes, you should be able to remove MS >> Visual Studio 2008 after successful compilation. >> >> > Will I be able to make stand >> > alone programs that are not running on Visual Studio at all (and >> > aren't effected by its licensing?). >> >> I'm not sure what you're talking about here. Can you elaborate more on >> this point? >> >> > If I have gcc installed why is it not possible to install the >> > source code with that? >> >> Sage currently has over 90 components. Many of those components are >> themselves separate open source projects. However, some of these >> components currently don't have Windows ports and someone has to go >> through all such components and port each and every one of them to >> Windows. If you're interested in porting Sage to Windows, a good place >> for that is the sage-windows mailing list. >> >> > Finally, if I choose to build the source code, is it OK to do that >> > without (immediately) erasing or uninstalling my present binary >> > distribution in its VM Player form? >> >> The VMware image and the Windows port source distribution are two >> separate packages. So if you have Visual Studio 2008 and other >> development tools for Windows, then you can grab a Windows port source >> distribution from >> >> http://windows.sagemath.org/ >> >> and compile it. They don't and shouldn't affect one another. >> >> -- >> Regards >> Minh Van Nguyen --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ To post to this group, send email to sage-support@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to sage-support-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-support URLs: http://www.sagemath.org -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
