On Dec 29, 2008, at 4:47 PM, William Stein wrote:

>
> On Mon, Dec 29, 2008 at 4:34 PM, Robert Bradshaw
> <rober...@math.washington.edu> wrote:
>>
>> +1 to (deprecating then removing) removing X.list(), and replacing it
>> with X.entries().
>
> Very good point.  We *must* remember to make X.list() use the
> deprecation warning system, and only remove it after 6 months.  Could
> you make a trac ticket?

Done. http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/4889

>
>>
>>> That X[0] returns the first row instead of the first column is a
>>> completely arbitrary choice.  It had to be made, so it was made.
>>
>>
>> I don't think it's quite arbitrary, M[a][b] == M[a,b] seems a lot
>> more natural than the other way, and the latter ordering, though
>> perhaps arbitrary, seems to be the more conventional one.
>>
>> - Robert
>
> Very good point.   It's just as arbitrary as the standard mathematical
> notation $a_{ij}$ for the ij entry of a matrix.  So it is consistant
> with standard mathematical notation, which means it isn't "totally
> arbitrary" after all.
>
> William
>
> >


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